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An excellent post indeed!
Downgrade? Of course! I always downgrade a stock after it beats expectations and clears up a number of issues that had been a concern for investors and impedance to the company's progress.
2.80 absolutely possible - and would still be within the realms of a breakout of short term (~4 mos) weekly down channel resistance
3.50+ is needed to break out of long term (~ 8 mos) weekly down channel resistance
Holy Cow, what happened? 2:30 came and LVLT got clobbered! No difference in anything they do or don't do since before 2:30... and sub $3.00!? I really thought that was done with.
Weekly: A close over 3.50+ would make this a breakout week, also would break out of a significant channel.
Daily: A close of up to 3.20 would keep us current in the down channel
The MA 20 was heading to break up through the MA50, now it is heading to bounce down off it.
I am going to be gone for most of today too. SHould I put in a buy at $2.55?
Will decide that before I leave.
Your theories make sense but did they really make Q1 sound any worse than any other Q1? Esp for a Co. that no longer offers guidance. My bet is they do better than anyone thinks - they are still working off their backlog - everything could dry up but they have work in the hopper from previous Qs - Q1 can't be that bad at all.
:) Sounds promising (in a non-descript sort of way).
bp10003@aol.com - if you just can't keep it a secret anymore.
I will keep a lid on it. Not expecting anything, but you know I had to try ...send a digital NDA if you want.
Meantime, I'm still riding this one too, although I did almost fall off today. There are some smilarities in the chart between now and 2 periods from Aug thru Oct. If it weren't for the 2 week decline into the mid-October run, I think I woulda been gone.
What are you thoughts on that .07 resistance? It looks pretty tough from here.
Gotcha. So maybe they'll take the skull & crossbones away! Thanks.
Any other worthwhile info come out of the call?
L2 sure whipped into shape since then.
Updated to show what?
Hard to imagine sub $3 now. Sure it is possilbe but the results are in, 3.02 was tested yesterday, it's time to resume the 3.10 - 3.50 range with errors to the plus side.
If A/D continues higher and money keeps coming in, as it should given the pps and the report they just gave us, it should not be too long before 3.25 turns into support, then 3.50 support, then finally get out of this sub-3.75 purgatory and back up to where it belongs... moving upwards.
Yup! Bid looks strong at .015 but ask still looks tough to move. Recent history says if you buy the ask they will beat you with a stick. I have enough people wanting to do that to me for free! Spread is also usually too much to make anyone think it would be OK to buy - eg .015 x .20 a few minutes ago Ha!
1@ .018 x 3@ .02
8 @ .015 x 2@ .026
1@ .011 x 2@ .029
1@ .01 x 1@ .03
1@ .004 x 1@ .032
2@ .001 x 1@ .048
2@ .0001 x 1@ .05
Problem now is that bringing the bid up will encourage more selling (if the trading really is selling) which will then bring it all down again. At least the spread is reasonable for the moment. I would to see the ask thin out and see something verifiable and positive about the CO. filing (like be able to look them up at sec.gov)
Well, nothing really incredible but no real bad news either. Looks like a slower move up than expected - but at least it should not get hammered down. All in all I rate it somewhere between satisfactory and good.
The market has been tough, esp the last few days after what seemed like certain recovery, CSCO made tech tougher, AAPL $118, and LVLT is up. Not too shabby.
I did not hear anything about Patel or a new CFO?
It looks like that every day. It's not like they won't be able to get back in for less.
In 2 weeks it has lost 2/3 of the gains that it made in the prior 2 weeks. That is more than sufficient retracement for a bounce, yet it continues to drop.
Lower lows 6 of last 7 days. Down 27 of the last 42 weeks (many of the remaining weeks were sideways rather than up). It isn't consolidating, it's dropping.
42,000 sells at bid + 100,000 buys at ask = 10% drop in pps
Another 40,000 and we're down 20% for the day
All the good news since last May and it has only dropped.
There *MIGHT* be support at .015 LOL
Capin' I think you should take the day off and go do something fun.
Not that we don't need an idiot around here... just that a happy idiot is a better idiot :)
After reading that PR it will be tuff2scare me out unless they get stupid in the call. (A couple positive things could turn a little wishy washy I guess)
Looks pretty good out of the gate!
I agree about the integration situation. But bad earnings woulda gotten the Co beat up pretty bad imo. -.06 is a lot better than -.11. INteresting AH session so far... up to $3.50 and down to $3.37 so far... coming off of a $3.14 close yesterday, not bad.
Level 3 Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2007 Results
Feb 7, 2008 8:00:00 AM
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Fourth Quarter Financial Highlights
- Consolidated Revenue of $1.10 billion
- Net loss of $91 million or $0.06 per share
- Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA of $246 million
- Positive Free Cash Flow of $41 million
BROOMFIELD, Colo., Feb. 7 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Level 3 Communications, Inc. (Nasdaq: LVLT) reported consolidated revenue of $1.10 billion for the fourth quarter 2007, compared to consolidated revenue of $1.06 billion for the third quarter 2007. For the full year 2007, consolidated revenue increased to $4.27 billion, compared to $3.38 billion in 2006.
The net loss for the fourth quarter 2007 was $91 million, or $0.06 per share, compared to a net loss of $174 million, or $0.11 per share, for the previous quarter. The net loss for 2007 was $1.11 billion, or $0.73 per share, compared to a net loss of $744 million, or $0.74 per share in 2006.
Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA(1) increased to $246 million in the fourth quarter 2007, compared to $215 million for the third quarter 2007. Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA increased to $824 million for the full year 2007, compared to $682 million for 2006.
"During the quarter, we made a number of organizational, process and systems improvements to better align our sales, service and operational capabilities," said James Crowe, CEO of Level 3. "And while we still have more work to do, these actions have significantly reduced our aged backlog of signed sales orders, improved our customer experience, and paved the way to accelerate future revenue growth. Financial performance for the quarter was solid, with particularly strong growth in Core Communications Services Revenue, Unlevered Cash Flow and Free Cash Flow."
Fourth Quarter 2007 and Full Year 2007 and 2006 Financial Results
Consolidated
Fourth Fourth Consolidated Consolidated
Metric Quarter Quarter Full Year Full Year Full Year
($ in 2007 2007 2007 2007 2006
millions) Results Projections(1) Results Projections(1) Results
Revenue
Core
Communi-
cations
Services(2) $955 $930 - $950 $3,622 $3,597 - $3,617 $1,973
Other
Communi-
cations
Services $56 $55 - $60 $274 $273 - $278 $445
SBC Contract
Services $73 $65 - $85 $303 $295 - $315 $893
Total
Communi-
cations
Revenue $1,084 $1,050 - $1,095 $4,199 $4,165 - $4,210 $3,311
Other
Revenue $16 $70 $67
Total
Consolidated
Revenue $1,100 $4,269 $3,378
Consolidated
Adjusted
EBITDA (3)
(4) (5) $246 $235 - $255 $824 $813 - $833 $682
Capital
Expenditures $153 $633 $600 - $650 $392
Unlevered
Cash Flow (5) $146 $89 $324
Free Cash
Flow (5) $41 $(402) $(171)
Communications
Gross
Margin (5) 59% 58% 56%
Communications
Adjusted EBITDA
Margin (5) 23% 20% 20%
(1) Projections issued October 23, 2007
(2) Includes termination revenue of $2 million in the fourth quarter 2007,
and $8 million and $9 million for the full year 2007 and 2006,
respectively
(3) Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA excludes $50 million in non-cash
compensation expense for the fourth quarter 2007, and $122 million and
$84 million for the full year 2007 and 2006, respectively.
(4) Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA includes $5 million in cash restructuring
charges in the fourth quarter 2007, and a total of $11 million and $5
million in cash restructuring charges for 2007 and 2006, respectively
(5) See schedule of non-GAAP metrics for definition and reconciliation to
GAAP measures
Communications Business
Revenue
Total Communications Revenue for the fourth quarter 2007 was $1.08 billion, versus $1.04 billion for the previous quarter. The company recognized $2 million in termination revenue during the fourth quarter 2007 and $5 million in termination revenue during the third quarter 2007.
Total Communications Revenue for 2007 was $4.20 billion, compared to $3.31
billion in 2006.
Communications Fourth Third Full Full
Revenue Quarter Quarter Percent Year Year Percent
($ in millions) 2007 (1) 2007 (1) Change 2007 2006 Change
Transport and
Infrastructure $452 $438 3% $1,716 $1,014 69%
IP and Data $153 $144 6% $584 $301 94%
Voice $310 $291 7% $1,182 $536 121%
Vyvx(2) $40 $36 11% $140 $122 15%
Total Core
Communications
Services $955 $909 5% $3,622 $1,973 84%
Other Communications
Services $56 $63 (11%) $274 $445 (38%)
SBC Contract
Services $73 $71 3% $303 $893 (66%)
Total
Communications
Revenue $1,084 $1,043 4% $4,199 $3,311 27%
(1) Communications revenue for the fourth quarter includes a full quarter
of revenue of approximately $2 million and $1 million in the third
quarter from Servecast, which closed on July 11, 2007
(2) Includes revenues associated with the Vyvx Ads business of
approximately $11 million and $10 million for the fourth and third
quarter 2007, respectively, and $36 million and $35 million for the
full year 2007 and 2006, respectively
Core Communications Services
Core Communications Services revenue, which includes transport and infrastructure, IP and Data, Voice and Vyvx, increased quarter over quarter by 5 percent.
For the full year 2007, Core Communications Services revenue was approximately $3.62 billion, an increase of 84 percent from 2006. Year over year revenue growth was primarily from acquisitions and organic growth.
For the fourth quarter and full year 2007, respectively, the percent of Core Communications Services revenue by each market group was:
-- Wholesale Markets Group -- 56 percent for the fourth quarter and
full year 2007
-- Business Markets Group -- 25 percent for the fourth quarter and 26
percent for the full year 2007
-- Content Markets Group -- 11 percent for the fourth quarter and full
year 2007
-- European Markets Group -- 8 percent for the fourth quarter and 7
percent for the full year 2007
Other Communications Services
Other Communications Services revenue declined 11 percent to $56 million during the fourth quarter as a result of expected declines in managed modem and managed services.
SBC Contract Services
SBC Contract Services increased by 3 percent to $73 million from the previous quarter, and includes a final $16 million quality of service performance bonus. This is the last such bonus for which the company is eligible.
As previously disclosed, SBC intends to migrate the services provided under the agreement to its own network facilities in accordance with terms previously negotiated by WilTel, a company subsequently acquired by Level 3. Under the terms of this agreement, SBC agreed to pay WilTel a minimum amount of gross margin regardless of the actual revenue generated under the agreement. The agreement, which continues through 2009, has $36 million in gross margin commitment remaining.
Deferred Revenue
The communications deferred revenue balance was $929 million at the end of the fourth quarter 2007, compared to $930 million at the end of the third quarter.
Cost of Revenue
Communications cost of revenue for the fourth quarter 2007 increased to $444 million, versus $438 million in the previous quarter. Cost of revenue increased during the quarter as a result of growth in Core Communications Services revenue. For the full year 2007, communications cost of revenue was $1.77 billion, compared to $1.46 billion for the full year 2006.
Communications gross margin(1) was 59 percent for the fourth quarter 2007, versus 58 percent for the third quarter. The increase in communications gross margin is primarily attributable to growth in Core Communications Services revenue and the SBC quality of service performance bonus.
Communications gross margin was 58 percent for the full year 2007, compared to 56 percent for the full year 2006.
Selling, General and Administrative Expenses (SG&A)
Communications SG&A expenses were $439 million for the fourth quarter 2007, versus $413 million for the previous quarter. SG&A increased during the quarter due to an increase in non-cash compensation expenses, offset by a decrease in incentive-based compensation. The fourth and third quarter 2007 Communications SG&A expenses include $50 million and $24 million, respectively, of non-cash compensation expense. Non-cash compensation increased during the quarter due to year end 401(k) contributions and the effect of additional accruals required for employees that are eligible for accelerated vesting of long term incentive awards at retirement.
Communications SG&A expenses were $1.72 billion for 2007, versus $1.25 billion for 2006. SG&A expenses increased during 2007 primarily due to expenses associated with the operations of Broadwing, which was acquired in January 2007.
Adjusted EBITDA
Adjusted EBITDA(1) for the communications business increased to $246 million for the fourth quarter 2007, compared to $215 million for the previous quarter.
Communications Adjusted EBITDA margin(1) improved to 23 percent for the fourth quarter 2007, versus 21 percent in the previous quarter.
Fourth quarter Communications Adjusted EBITDA excludes $50 million of non-cash compensation expense and includes $5 million of cash restructuring charges related to integration activities. Third quarter Communications Adjusted EBITDA excludes $24 million of non-cash compensation expense and includes a $1 million cash restructuring charge related to integration activities.
Communications Adjusted EBITDA increased by 22 percent to $823 million in 2007, compared to $677 million for 2006.
Income Taxes
Income tax benefit for the fourth quarter 2007 was $20 million. The benefit in the fourth quarter was primarily the result of reversing $23 million of the valuation allowance against the company's tax net operating loss carry forwards (NOLs) to reflect the fact that the company now expects that it will be able to use this portion of its NOLs against certain state taxable income in the future.
Consolidated Cash Flow and Liquidity
During the fourth quarter 2007, Unlevered Cash Flow(1) was positive $146 million, versus positive $76 million for the previous quarter. This increase was a result of improvements in working capital and increases in Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA. Consolidated Free Cash Flow for the fourth quarter was positive $41 million, versus negative $54 million for the previous quarter, primarily from improvements in cash flow as a result of reductions in Days Sales Outstanding, as well as lower net cash interest expense for the period.
For the full year 2007, unlevered cash flow was positive $89 million compared to positive $324 million in 2006, and consolidated free cash flow was negative $402 million in 2007 compared to negative $171 million in 2006. Consolidated capital expenditures for the company totaled $633 million for the full year 2007 compared to $392 million in 2006.
As of December 31, 2007, the company had cash and marketable securities of approximately $723 million.
Corporate Transactions
On December 19, 2007, Level 3 announced that it has signed a definitive agreement to sell the advertising distribution business of Vyvx to DG FastChannel, Inc. Under the terms of the agreement, Level 3 will receive total consideration of $129 million payable in cash at closing, subject to customary working capital and other post-closing adjustments. The transaction is expected to close in the first half of 2008, subject to required regulatory approvals.
Integration Update
"During the quarter, we improved our provisioning capability by both increasing resources and through process improvement," said Kevin O'Hara, president and COO of Level 3. "Our customer experience has improved, and we are continuing to make process and organizational changes to further improve our capabilities.
"Over the course of the last quarter, we reduced the size of our aged backlog of signed sales orders by approximately 75 percent. Additionally, for four of the last five months, we installed more services than we sold, in part due to provisioning improvements and in part due to lower sales. And, while the sales funnel increased in December and January, sales rates remain below those of the first half of 2007. Consequently, we are now focusing a significant amount of effort on increasing sales rates to levels that we have previously demonstrated we can achieve, to take advantage of the increased provisioning capacity that we believe exists.
"We made progress as expected in the implementation of Project Unity, our initiative to provide a unifying set of business processes and support systems. As we introduce Unity platforms, we are able to retire legacy systems that have contributed to our operational complexity. We have now retired over 350 legacy applications. During the quarter, we increased the training in Unity applications and continued developing rigorous methods and procedures documentation for the full service delivery process."
Financial Disclosure
Beginning with its first quarter 2008 results, the company will aggregate revenue from Transport and Infrastructure, IP and Data, non-wholesale Voice and Vyvx services, and report those results as Core Network Services revenue. Domestic voice termination, international voice termination and toll free services will be totaled and reported as Wholesale Voice Services revenue. Using this categorization, fourth quarter 2007 Communications Services revenue would have been reported as shown in the table below:
Fourth
Communications Services Revenue Quarter
($ in millions) 2007
Core Network Services $783
Wholesale Voice Services $172
Total Core Communications Services $955
Other Communications Services $56
SBC Contract Services $73
Total Communications Services Revenue $1,084
Beginning with its first quarter 2008 results, the company will report Core Communications Services revenues in dollars for each of its market groups, Wholesale, Business, Content and Europe. In the fourth quarter 2007, the revenue by market group would have been reported as shown in the table below:
Fourth
Core Communications Services Revenue Quarter
($ in millions) 2007
Wholesale Markets Group $536
Business Markets Group $239
Content Markets Group $105
European Markets Group $75
Total Core Communications Services Revenue $955
Additionally, the company will not be providing quarterly guidance beginning with 2008. "We believe that quarterly guidance is subject to volatility from seasonal and usage patterns and is of limited value to long term investors," said Sunit Patel, CFO of Level 3. "Alternatively, we plan to comment on projected revenue, expense, cash flow and other longer term trends that we believe are better indicators of long term value creation."
2008 Business Outlook
"We continue to expect growth in the 8 to 13 percent range for Core Communications Services revenue for the full year 2008," said Patel. "We expect growth to pick up over the course of the year consistent with historical trends and that our sales and install rates will increase over the course of the year compared to what we experienced in the second half of 2007. In addition, we expect 2008 Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA to range from $950 million to $1.10 billion in 2008. We expect capital expenditures to be 12 to 14 percent of communications revenue in 2008. With minimal integration capital expenditures this year, our total 2008 capital expenditures should be much lower than the $633 million we incurred in 2007.
"In the first quarter 2008, we expect to experience the pattern of seasonality with regards to certain Core Communications Services revenue that we have seen over the last few years, with seasonally high revenue in the fourth quarter and seasonally lower revenue in the first quarter."
Level 3 expects Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA to decrease in the first quarter, primarily as a result of two items. First, the company will no longer receive performance bonuses associated with the SBC contract. In the fourth quarter 2007 that bonus totaled $16 million. In addition, the company lowered its accrual for incentive compensation in the fourth quarter for a one time reduction of $21 million.
"Over the course of last year, our free cash flow losses went down materially and we were cash flow positive in the fourth quarter," said Patel. "Our cash flow is expected to be negative in the first quarter due to higher working capital use, lower Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA, and higher net cash interest expense of $140 million compared to $105 million in the fourth quarter of 2007. In subsequent quarters, we expect to continue the trend of reducing our cash flow losses. We expect overall cash flow losses in 2008 to be a fraction of comparable quarters in 2007 with most of our cash flow loss for 2008 occurring in the first quarter."
Net cash interest expense is expected to be approximately $510 million in 2008.
Summary
"We have two primary goals for 2008," said Crowe. "The first is to increase our sales and installation rates to levels that take full advantage of existing, demonstrated demand for our service offerings. Our second objective is to achieve sustainable, positive free cash flow as soon as reasonably possible. As such, we expect to be free cash flow positive for the full year 2009.
"Achievement of both these goals will help assure that our investors will benefit from both a strong market environment for our services and from the significant opportunity to continue to expand our network scale. Given our focus on operational improvement and our demonstrated operating and financial leverage, we believe we can achieve both of these objectives over the next several quarters."
Conference Call and Web Site Information
Level 3 will hold a conference call to discuss the company's fourth quarter results at 10 a.m. EST today. To join the call, please dial 612-332-1213. A live broadcast of the call can also be heard on Level 3's Web site at http://www.level3.com/q0407report.html.
An audio replay of the call will be available until 11:59 p.m. EST on Thursday, February 21, 2008, by dialing 320-365-3844 access code 906704. The archived webcast of the fourth quarter conference call together with the press release, financial statements and non-GAAP reconciliations may also be accessed at http://www.level3.com/investor_relations/index.html. For additional information please call 720-888-2502.
About Level 3 Communications
Level 3 Communications, Inc. (NASDAQ: LVLT), an international communications company, operates one of the largest Internet backbones in the world, connecting more than 180 markets in 19 countries. The company serves a broad range of wholesale, enterprise and content customers with a comprehensive suite of services including: Internet Protocol (IP) services, broadband transport and infrastructure services, colocation services, voice and voice over IP services, and content delivery and media distribution services. These services provide the building blocks to enable Level 3's customers to meet their growing demands for advanced communications solutions. The company's Web address is http://www.Level3.com.
Level 3 Communications, Level 3, the red 3D brackets and the Level 3 Communications logo are registered service marks of Level 3 Communications, LLC in the United States and/or other countries. Level 3 services are provided by wholly owned subsidiaries of Level 3 Communications, Inc. Any other service, product or company names recited herein may be trademarks or service marks of their respective owners.
Forward-Looking Statement
Some of the statements made in this press release are forward looking in nature. These statements are based on management's current expectations or beliefs. These forward looking statements are not a guarantee of performance and are subject to a number of uncertainties and other factors, many of which are outside Level 3's control, which could cause actual events to differ materially from those expressed or implied by the statements. The most important factors that could prevent Level 3 from achieving its stated goals include, but are not limited to the company's ability to: successfully integrate acquisitions; increase the volume of traffic on the network; defend intellectual property and proprietary rights; develop new products and services that meet customer demands and generate acceptable margins; successfully complete commercial testing of new technology and information systems to support new products and services; attract and retain qualified management and other personnel; and meet all of the terms and conditions of debt obligations. Additional information concerning these and other important factors can be found within Level 3's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Statements in this press release should be evaluated in light of these important factors. Level 3 is under no obligation to, and expressly disclaims any such obligation to, update or alter its forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise.
1) Non-GAAP Metrics
Pursuant to Regulation G, the Company is hereby providing a reconciliation of non-GAAP financial metrics to the most directly comparable GAAP measure.
The Company provides projections that include non-GAAP metrics that the Company deems relevant to management and investors. These non-GAAP metrics are Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA, Communications Gross Margin, Communications Adjusted EBITDA Margin, Unlevered Cash Flow and Consolidated Free Cash Flow. Certain of the following reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial metrics to GAAP include forward-looking statements with respect to the information identified as a projection. Level 3 has made a number of assumptions in preparing our projections, including assumptions as to the components of financial metrics. These assumptions, including dollar amounts of the various components that comprise a financial metric, may or may not prove to be correct. We caution you that these forward-looking statements are only projections, which are subject to risks and uncertainties including technological uncertainty, financial variations, changes in the regulatory environment, industry growth and trend predictions. Please see the Company's Annual Report on Form 10-K for a description of these risks and uncertainties.
In order to provide projections with respect to non-GAAP metrics, we are required to indicate a range for GAAP measures that are components of the reconciliation of the non-GAAP metric. The provision of these ranges is in no way meant to indicate that the Company is explicitly or implicitly providing projections on those GAAP components of the reconciliation. In order to reconcile the non-GAAP financial metric to GAAP, the Company has to use ranges for the GAAP components that arithmetically add up to the non-GAAP financial metric. While the Company feels reasonably comfortable about the projections for its non-GAAP financial metrics, it fully expects that the ranges used for the GAAP components will vary from actual results. We will consider our projections of non-GAAP financial metrics to be accurate if the specific non-GAAP metric is met or exceeded, even if the GAAP components of the reconciliation are different from those provided in an earlier reconciliation.
Communications Gross Margin ($) is defined as communications revenue less communications cost of revenue from the consolidated condensed statements of operations.
Cost of Revenue for the communications business includes leased capacity, right-of-way costs, access charges and other third party circuit costs directly attributable to the network, as well as costs of assets sold. Cost of revenue also includes satellite transponder lease costs, package delivery costs and blank tape media costs attributable to the video business. Cost of revenue does not include depreciation and amortization.
Communications Gross Margin (%) is defined as communications gross margin ($) divided by communications revenue. Management believes that communications gross margin is a relevant metric to provide to investors, as it is a metric that management uses to measure the margin available to the Company after it pays third party network services costs; in essence, a measure of the efficiency of the Company's network.
Communications Gross Margin Q407 Q307
($ in millions)
Communications Revenue $1,084 $1,043
Communications Cost of Revenue $444 $438
Communications Gross Margin ($) $640 $605
Communications Gross Margin (%) 59% 58%
Communications Gross Margin Year Ended December 31,
($ in millions) 2007 2006
Communications Revenue $4,199 $3,311
Communications Cost of Revenue $1,769 $1,460
Communications Gross Margin ($) $2,430 $1,851
Communications Gross Margin (%) 58% 56%
Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA is defined as net income/(loss) from the consolidated condensed statements of operations before gain/(loss) from discontinued operations, income taxes, total other income/(expense), non-cash impairment charges, depreciation and amortization and non-cash stock compensation expense.
Communications Adjusted EBITDA Margin is defined as Communications Adjusted EBITDA divided by communications revenue.
Management believes that Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA and Communications Adjusted EBITDA Margin are relevant and useful metrics to provide to investors, as they are an important part of the Company's internal reporting and are key measures used by Management to evaluate profitability and operating performance of the Company and to make resource allocation decisions. Management believes such measures are especially important in a capital-intensive industry such as telecommunications. Management also uses Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA and Communications Adjusted EBITDA Margin to compare the Company's performance to that of its competitors. Management has adjusted consolidated EBITDA to eliminate certain non-cash and non-operating items in order to consistently measure from period to period its ability to fund capital expenditures, fund growth, service debt and determine bonuses. Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA excludes non-cash impairment charges and non-cash stock compensation expense because of the non-cash nature of these items. Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA also excludes interest income, interest expense, income taxes and gain (loss) on extinguishment of debt because these items are associated with the Company's capitalization and tax structures. Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA also excludes depreciation and amortization expense because these non-cash expenses reflect the impact of capital investments which management believes should be evaluated through consolidated free cash flow. Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA excludes other, net because these items are not related to the primary operations of the Company.
There are limitations to using non-GAAP financial measures, including the difficulty associated with comparing companies that use similar performance measures whose calculations may differ from the Company's calculations. Additionally, this financial measure does not include certain significant items such as interest income, interest expense, income taxes, depreciation and amortization, non-cash impairment charges, non-cash stock compensation expense, gain/(loss) on early extinguishment of debt and net other income/(expense). Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA and Communications Adjusted EBITDA Margin should not be considered a substitute for other measures of financial performance reported in accordance with GAAP.
Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA
Three Months Ended December 31, 2007 Comm- Information Con-
($ in millions) unications Services Other solidated
Net Earnings (Loss) ($89) $-- ($2) ($91)
(Income) Loss from Discontinued
Operations $-- $-- $-- $--
Income Tax (Benefit) Expense ($20) $-- $-- ($20)
Total Other (Income) Expense $82 $-- $-- $82
Non-Cash Impairment Charge $-- $-- $-- $--
Depreciation and Amortization
Expense $223 $-- $2 $225
Non-Cash Stock Compensation Expense $50 $-- $-- $50
Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA $246 $-- $-- $246
Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA
Three Months Ended September 30, 2007 Comm- Information Con-
($ in millions) unications Services Other solidated
Net Earnings (Loss) ($178) $-- $4 ($174)
(Income) Loss from Discontinued
Operations $-- $-- $-- $--
Income Tax (Benefit) Expense $2 $-- ($6) ($4)
Total Other (Income) Expense $120 $-- $-- $120
Non-Cash Impairment Charge $-- $-- $-- $--
Depreciation and Amortization
Expense $247 $-- $2 $249
Non-Cash Stock Compensation Expense $24 $-- $-- $24
Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA $215 $-- $-- $215
Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA
Twelve Months Ended December 31, 2007 Comm- Information Con-
($ in millions) unications Services Other solidated
Net Earnings (Loss) ($1,113) $-- ($1) ($1,114)
(Income) Loss from Discontinued
Operations $-- $-- $-- $--
Income Tax (Benefit) Expense ($17) $-- ($5) ($22)
Total Other (Income) Expense $895 $-- $-- $895
Non-Cash Impairment Charge $1 $-- $-- $1
Depreciation and Amortization
Expense $935 $-- $7 $942
Non-Cash Stock Compensation Expense $122 $-- $-- $122
Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA $823 $-- $1 $824
Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA
Three Months Ended December 31, 2006 Comm- Information Con-
($ in millions) unications Services Other solidated
Net Earnings (Loss) ($243) $-- $6 ($237)
(Income) Loss from Discontinued
Operations $-- $-- $-- $--
Income Tax (Benefit) Expense $4 $-- $-- $4
Total Other (Income) Expense $194 $-- ($1) $193
Non-Cash Impairment Charge $-- $-- $-- $--
Depreciation and Amortization
Expense $199 $-- ($2) $197
Non-Cash Stock Compensation Expense $32 $-- $-- $32
Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA $186 $-- $3 $189
Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA
Twelve Months Ended December 31, 2006 Comm- Information Con-
($ in millions) unications Services Other solidated
Net Earnings (Loss) ($800) $46 $10 ($744)
(Income) Loss from Discontinued
Operations $-- ($46) $-- ($46)
Income Tax (Benefit) Expense $4 $-- ($2) $2
Total Other (Income) Expense $652 $-- ($4) $648
Non-Cash Impairment Charge $8 $-- $-- $8
Depreciation and Amortization
Expense $729 $-- $1 $730
Non-Cash Stock Compensation Expense $84 $-- $-- $84
Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA $677 $-- $5 $682
Communications Adjusted EBITDA Margin
($ in millions) Q407 Q307
Communications Revenue $1,084 $1,043
Communications Adjusted EBITDA $246 $215
Communications Adjusted EBITDA Margin 23% 21%
Communications Adjusted EBITDA Margin Year Ended December 31,
($ in millions) 2007 2006
Communications Revenue $4,199 $3,311
Communications Adjusted EBITDA $823 $677
Communications Adjusted EBITDA Margin 20% 20%
Projected Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA Consolidated
Twelve Months Ended December 31, 2008 Range
($ in millions) Low High
Net Earnings (Loss) ($630) ($430)
Total Other (Income) Expense $540 $510
Depreciation and Amortization Expense $920 $880
Non-Cash Stock Compensation Expense $120 $140
Consolidated Adjusted EBITDA $950 $1,100
Unlevered Cash Flow is defined as net cash provided by (used in) operating activities less capital expenditures, and adding back cash interest paid, less interest income all as disclosed in the consolidated statements of cash flows or the consolidated condensed statements of operations. Management believes that Unlevered Cash Flow is a relevant metric to provide to investors, as it is an indicator of the operational strength and performance of the Company and, measured over time, provides management and investors with a sense of the growth pattern of the business.
There are material limitations to using Unlevered Cash Flow to measure the Company against some of its competitors as it excludes certain material items such as cash spent on merger and acquisition activity and interest expense. Level 3 does not currently pay a significant amount of income taxes due to net operating losses, and therefore, generates higher cash flow than a comparable business that does pay income taxes. Additionally, this financial measure is subject to variability quarter over quarter as a result of the timing of payments related to accounts receivable and accounts payable. Unlevered Cash Flow should not be used as a substitute for net change in cash and cash equivalents on the consolidated statements of cash flows.
Consolidated Free Cash Flow is defined as net cash provided by (used in) operating activities less capital expenditures as disclosed in the consolidated statements of cash flows. Management believes that Consolidated Free Cash Flow is a relevant metric to provide to investors, as it is an indicator of the Company's ability to generate cash to service its debt. Consolidated Free Cash Flow excludes cash used for acquisitions and principal repayments.
There are material limitations to using Consolidated Free Cash Flow to measure the Company against some of its competitors as Level 3 does not currently pay a significant amount of income taxes due to net operating losses, and therefore, generates higher cash flow than a comparable business that does pay income taxes. Additionally, this financial measure is subject to variability quarter over quarter as a result of the timing of payments related to accounts receivable and accounts payable. This financial measure should not be used as a substitute for net change in cash and cash equivalents on the consolidated statements of cash flows.
Unlevered Cash Flow and Consolidated Free
Cash Flow Unlevered Consolidated
Three Months Ended December 31, 2007 Cash Free Cash
($ in millions) Flow Flow
Net Cash Provided by Operating Activities $194 $194
Capital Expenditures ($153) ($153)
Cash Interest Paid $114 N/A
Interest Income ($9) N/A
Total $146 $41
Unlevered Cash Flow and Consolidated Free
Cash Flow Unlevered Consolidated
Three Months Ended September 30, 2007 Cash Free Cash
($ in millions) Flow Flow
Net Cash Provided by Operating Activities $101 $101
Capital Expenditures ($155) ($155)
Cash Interest Paid $142 N/A
Interest Income ($12) N/A
Total $76 ($54)
Unlevered Cash Flow and Consolidated Free
Cash Flow Unlevered Consolidated
Twelve Months Ended December 31, 2007 Cash Free Cash
($ in millions) Flow Flow
Net Cash Provided by Operating Activities $231 $231
Capital Expenditures ($633) ($633)
Cash Interest Paid $545 N/A
Interest Income ($54) N/A
Total $89 ($402)
Unlevered Cash Flow and Consolidated Free
Cash Flow Unlevered Consolidated
Twelve Months Ended December 31, 2006 Cash Free Cash
($ in millions) Flow Flow
Net Cash Provided by Operating Activities $221 $221
Capital Expenditures ($392) ($392)
Cash Interest Paid $559 N/A
Interest Income ($64) N/A
Total $324 ($171)
LEVEL 3 COMMUNICATIONS, INC. AND SUBSIDIARIES
Condensed Consolidated Statements of Operations
(unaudited)
(dollars in Twelve Months Ended Three Months Ended
millions, except Dec. 31, Sept. 30, Dec. 31, Dec. 31, Dec. 31,
per share data) 2007 2007 2006 2007 2006
Revenue:
Communications $1,084 $1,043 $830 $4,199 $3,311
Other 16 18 16 70 67
Total Revenue 1,100 1,061 846 4,269 3,378
Costs and Expenses:
Cost of Revenue 459 454 324 1,833 1,517
Depreciation
and Amortization 225 249 197 942 730
Selling, General and
Administrative,
including non-
cash compensation
of $50, $24, $32,
$122 and $84,
respectively 440 415 365 1,723 1,258
Restructuring
Charges, including
non-cash impairment
charges of $-,
$-, $-, $1 and
$8, respectively 5 1 - 12 13
Total Costs
and Expenses 1,129 1,119 886 4,510 3,518
Operating Loss (29) (58) (40) (241) (140)
Other Income
(Loss), net:
Interest Income 9 12 20 54 64
Interest Expense (136) (138) (167) (577) (648)
Loss on Extinguishment
of Debt - - (54) (427) (83)
Other Income (Expense) 45 6 8 55 19
Other Income (Loss) (82) (120) (193) (895) (648)
Loss from Continuing
Operations Before
Income Taxes (111) (178) (233) (1,136) (788)
Income Tax Benefit
(Expense) 20 4 (4) 22 (2)
Loss from Continuing
Operations (91) (174) (237) (1,114) (790)
Gain from Discontinued
Operations - - - - 13
Gain on Sale of
Discontinued Operations - - - - 33
Income from Discontinued
Operations - - - - 46
Net Loss $(91) $(174) $(237) $(1,114) $(744)
Basic and Diluted Loss
per Share:
Loss from Continuing
Operations $(0.06) $(0.11) $(0.20) $(0.73) $(0.79)
Income from
Discontinued
Operations - - - - 0.05
Net Loss $(0.06) $(0.11) $(0.20) $(0.73) $(0.74)
Weighted Average
Shares Outstanding
(in thousands):
Basic and
Diluted 1,536,736 1,534,029 1,176,525 1,517,616 1,003,255
LEVEL 3 COMMUNICATIONS, INC. AND SUBSIDIARIES
Condensed Consolidated Balance Sheets
(unaudited)
December 31, September 30, December 31,
(dollars in millions) 2007 2007 2006
Assets
Current Assets:
Cash and cash equivalents $714 $642 $1,681
Marketable securities 9 55 235
Restricted securities 23 27 46
Accounts receivable, less
allowances of $20, $18 and
$17, respectively 395 438 326
Other 88 106 101
Total Current Assets 1,229 1,268 2,389
Property, Plant and Equipment,
net 6,669 6,709 6,468
Restricted Securities 101 94 90
Goodwill and Other Intangibles,
net 2,101 2,116 919
Other Assets, net 145 129 128
$10,245 $10,316 $9,994
Liabilities and Stockholders'
Equity
Current Liabilities:
Accounts payable $396 $395 $391
Current portion of long-term
debt 32 31 5
Accrued payroll and employee
benefits 97 77 92
Accrued interest 128 111 143
Deferred revenue 166 155 128
Other 139 171 156
Total Current Liabilities 958 940 915
Long-Term Debt, less current
portion 6,832 6,833 7,357
Deferred Revenue 763 775 767
Other Liabilities 622 590 581
Stockholders' Equity 1,070 1,178 374
$10,245 $10,316 $9,994
LEVEL 3 COMMUNICATIONS, INC. AND SUBSIDIARIES
Condensed Consolidated Statements of Cash Flows
(unaudited)
Three Months Ended
December 31, September 30, December 31,
(dollars in millions) 2007 2007 2006
Cash Flows from Operating
Activities:
Net loss $(91) $(174) $(237)
Adjustments to reconcile
net loss to net cash
provided by operating
activities:
Depreciation and
amortization 225 249 197
Non-cash compensation
expense attributable
to stock awards 50 24 32
Loss on extinquishment
of debt, net - - 54
Gain on sale of property,
plant and equipment and
other assets (38) - (2)
Amortization of debt
issuance costs 4 3 4
Accreted interest on
discount debt 1 6 10
Accrued interest on
long-term debt 17 (13) 39
Deferred income taxes (23) - -
Changes in working capital
items net of amounts
acquired:
Receivables 43 20 30
Other current assets 19 25 10
Payables 9 (3) (15)
Deferred revenue (7) (17) (4)
Other current
liabilities (22) (15) (9)
Other 7 (4) 3
Net Cash Provided by Operating
Activities 194 101 112
Cash Flows from Investing
Activities:
Capital expenditures (153) (155) (141)
Proceeds from sale of
discontinued operations,
net of cash sold (2) - (3)
Proceeds from sale and
maturity of marketable
securities 45 - 275
Proceeds from sale of
property, plant and
equipment 1 2 2
(Increase) decrease in
restricted cash and
securities, net (3) 2 -
Acquisitions, net of
cash acquired, and
investments (8) (46) (3)
Net Cash Provided by (Used in)
Investing Activities (120) (197) 130
Cash Flows from Financing
Activities:
Long-term debt borrowings,
net of issuance costs - (3) 1,249
Proceeds from warrants
and stock-based equity
plans - 2 -
Payments on and repurchases
of long-term debt, including
current portion and
refinancing costs (2) (1) (543)
Net Cash Provided by (Used in)
Financing Activities (2) (2) 706
Effect of Exchange Rates
on Cash - 1 2
Net Change in Cash and Cash
Equivalents 72 (97) 950
Cash and Cash Equivalents at
Beginning of Period 642 739 731
Cash and Cash Equivalents
at End of Period $714 $642 $1,681
Supplemental Disclosure of Cash
Flow Information:
Cash interest paid $114 $142 $114
Total Cash, Current Marketable
Securities and Noncurrent
Marketable Securities $723 $697 $1,916
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All about manipulation if you ask me. I don't know why. It might be more important to find out what took it down from $1 to .01 in the first place. There was very little volume below .02 in December (or ever) ... only about 6M shares.
Notice their PRs since last May and compare with the chart. All great PRs, all depict a growing business with better stuff around the corner and moving forward doing things right. The chart disagrees. Why is that?
They do not exist in the eyes of the SEC. Until they do, they are not protected by the flimsy veil of protection offered to OTC securities. Until they begin reporting, a Co. is more likely to be a scam. Last week is the 2nd time in about 7 months they said they would file and uplist to OTC.
I can't find the Co. listed in PA, VA or NY (the 2 states listed on their website and the state their web domain is registered in).
My theories of the ridiculous are as follows:
1.) Someone or some entity had many shares they got cheap cheap (convertibles, regdex or other financing deal) and they are now dumping "little by little" in order to get the most they can out of them before it goes subpenny
2.) MMs are short after having run it up from .01 and are playing catch up, shorting it themselves or dropping it to make covering easier
3.) The CEO is lying, EDS did bad DD, and they are diluting
4.) Someone has inside information and it is being kept here until somebody's friend or a certain 'big' investor(s)
a.) gets a position (long or short)
b.) gets out or covers
5.) The appeal is over and honest people are doing honest selling (ha!)
LOL - what a welcome! I once thought I was above Cro-Magnon too. As it turned out, Neanderthals are actually beneath Cro-Magnon!
Well, tomorrow when they are 2.25 you can buy as many as you like... only then it wont be coming back up for a very long time, so it may well be a dumb time to buy if it drops like that.
AH bid just dropped to 3.07... I can still bail if I want to!!!
It is quite the bet isn't it? I mean, you think it's all statistics and proven and you have fundys and charts and everything goes according to plan until the last minute when the whole thing becomes a make or break bet on the unknown.
I know I do not feel as certain as I once had :) but the excitement is there! Really on edge.
And here's our buddy the crooked prints.
131,000 at .023 at 15:53:33
...but not printed until after the bell and not until after the 2 AH prints (below)
131,000 at .023 at 16:04:39 T (F)
and
131,000 at .0234 at 16:03:24 T (XF)
The AH shows up in the T&SQ but not the 15:53:33 trade.
The .0234 was cancelled
To sum it up to date:
2/6 - 15:53:33 - 131,000 - .023
2/6 - 16:04:39 - 131,000 - .023 T (F)
2/6 - 16:03:24 - 131,000 - .0234 T (XF)
2/5 - 15:59:54 - 550,000 - .027
2/5 - 16:06:24 - 550,000 - .026 T (F)
2/4 - 15:56:36 - 437,000 - .028
2/4 - 16:04:27 - 437,000 - .03 T (F)
1/31 - 15:59:45 - 221,000 - 0.034
1/31 - 16:00:15 - 221,000 - 0.032 T (F)
1/30 - 15:46:07 - 400,000 - .0368 15:46
1/29 - 15:55:48 - 1,522,000 - .037
1/29 - 16:15:12 - 1,522,000 - .0359 T (F)
1/28 - 16:03:57 - 580,500 - .0348 T (F)
1/28 - 14:58:xx - 580,000 - .038
the 1/28 - 14:58 one is from a post (below), I did not see that trade myself.
Posted by: PoorNoMore
In reply to: $tock Weazel who wrote msg# 979
Date:1/28/2008 4:19:19 PM
Post #of 1448
I show that 580000 block at 14:58 @ .038
The .0234 was cancelled. But what they did not print was the trade at 15:53:33 which is sitting at the top of my L2... AFTER the AH trades both printed
Looks like .022 held up! But are those .023s hitting now buys at the bid or more sells?
After all this messing around, they need to make it much more clear.
.022 back on the bid... seems clear they are still running it down
Hey Capin' - got out early... of meetings, that is - not out of LVLT. Everything I am in is doing terribly the last couple days, what can go wrong will go wrong if it hasn't already. Amazing. I really need a good Q from these guys tomorrow!
Yes, I was expecting pps @ 3.12 but not quite this fast. 3.02 was below my expectations but held well, I think that was a good test and a good indicator of the beginning of what will happen if they disappoint tomorrow.
So you are all out or did you keep a few for the miracle?
Tough day here, what came and saved it at 2:30?
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Except that they aren't AH trades - the trades all occurred in the last minutes of the trading day, (timestamps in my other post).
Then they mirror AH for a lower PPS and wipe it off the intraday T&SQ, and print the cheaper trade as a Form T in the AH.
The biggest trade of the day is consistently happening seconds before the close, and being settled for less than the cost of the original trade after the close.
Who are they buying for, selling for, or covering for, that they have to work it like that?
16:06:24 - 550,000 - .026
15:59:54 - 550,000 - .027
15:59:54 - 2,000 - .027
I guess they were too busy to print this during the day, what with all the hi-speed trading this was been doing all day long, so they stuck this little insignificant trade in as a form T sale.
Woops... and dropped it .001 while they were at it!
That 2000 trade at 15:59:54 was the ONLY trade up there on my L2 for many minutes... then the AH 550,000 printed, THEN the 15:59 550K printed. Only of these will show in the T&SQ.
Add this one to the list of mirror trades that dont print til after the bell even if they occur before the bell... this amounts to about 1/8 of the float if you only count 1 of each pair of trades.
2/5 - 15:59:54 - 550,000 - .027
2/5 - 16:06:24 - 550,000 - .026
2/4 - 437,000 15:56:36 .028
2/4 - 437,000 16:04"27 .03
1/31 - 15:59:45 - 221,000 - 0.034
1/31 - 16:00:15 - 221,000 - 0.032 - OTCEQ_NBB T (F)
1/30 - 15:46:07 - 400,000 - .0368 15:46
1/29 - 16:15:12 - 1,522,000 - .0359 - OTCEQ_NBB T (F)
1/29 - 15:55:48 - 1,522,000 - .037
1/28 - 16:03:57 - 580,500 - .0348 - OTCEQ_NBB T (F)
1/28 - 14:58:xx - 580,000 - .038
the 1/28 - 14:58 one is from a post (below), I did not see that trade myself.
Posted by: PoorNoMore
In reply to: $tock Weazel who wrote msg# 979
Date:1/28/2008 4:19:19 PM
Post #of 1448
I show that 580000 block at 14:58 @ .038
.022 x .024 ...someone really wants to get out
Its possible this will start bottoming if .022 doesn't break (bounce off .022 makes possible sense for tomorrow but I think it breaks south before bouncing, this is clearly a manipulated garbage stock). A/D and volume show the last couple days as almost all sells, quite different than the buy/sell reports.
This has been trading like it is being manipulated since the day I started watching it. Selling off, then huge buys above the ask, walking it down on small buys, running or jumping it up for big ones (always made me think they were preferred sellers getting out above the ask) , the biggest trades were always mirrors at EOD.
EDS newsletter pick of the month... would you expect that to generate even just a little buying volume? Yes, Unless everyone who reads EDS got in at .01 a few weeks ago. I am not so sure the float is 25M anymore as that entire volume has traded here in the last month or so.
EDS : That’s a very conservative approach. So do you expect any dilution of
shares in the short or long term?
Dr. Walker : No.
and howbout that 2000 share paintjob?
15:59:54 - 2000 - .027
too funny
Aw cheeze... I'll miss ya here Capin! LOL Well GLTY wherever you go. I am out at meetings all of tomorrow so not sure what to do as I will be unable to bail if there is a huge and sudden downturn. But I've "always" intended on riding it out, and to me little has changed -with the exception of some possible layoffs which is a mixed bet re; how it factors into the outcome of Thursday morning. So, for right now it looks like I will hold through tomorrow and see where it gets me.
I thought nearly the same thing but figure why quit before the miracle? At this point, it is down to the reports on Thursday or a yahoo rumor with late support by a news article rumor, neither of which say for sure things will fall apart again on Thursday.
I was expecting some 3.10s here so I am ready for it, but was not expecting that type of rumor. If the rumor is not true, how will it affect trading on Thursday?
AND you know, GS is down a good chunk today too, after breaking out above resistance a couple days ago (looked like they were starting on a new leg up to me) and holding it yesterday, they opened below it this am and have continued to fall. They are no where near a bad Co at all, and were mas popular last week, but they are now down about 10% in 2 days.
Sounds like a good idea! In my neighborhood you're lucky if the commission buys you a 6 pack :)
15:11:51 - 2071 @ .028
15:11:51 - 2929 @ .028
13:04:51 - 47,071 @ .028
47,071 + 2929 = 50,000 or 2071 + 2929 = 5000 but at least they're all at .028
Hello. This is insane. According to
http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=trades&btn=s_ok&symbol=PINK%3AONco&s_ok=OK&minimise=
we have 825,000 buys and 233,000 sells today. Naturally , that should result in a 20% decline, right? I mean I know that trade counter thing is not always right in deciding buys and sells, but relative to bid and ask it does the math just fine. OK, so howbout this then...
.023 x .025
12:28:44 25,370 @ .025
12:28:40 14,630 @ .023
12:28:40 14,630 @ .025
25,370 + 14,630 = 40,000
Why are 14,630 shares coming out of a 40,000 buy?
Which I guess is a similar question to why do 250 shares bring it down 15%?
Why does this kind of thing happen all the time here?
Hooboy! Well... scary if true, but a tough read. It is still conjecture at this point and PPS has not reacted terribly since that was released at 11:30. The initial drop has been almost completely recovered and anything going on here will be masked by the overall big down day of the market.
It depends on Thursday really... if they have good #s then firing 1100 should be a good thing. Everybody loves paying fewer salaries - -but they need solid proof they are handling the fulfillment demands without those 1100 staffers IF it is true.
It could still be a rumor for the shorts, but there is no huge volume either way. I f there is any wind of good #s or forecasts coming (from those familiar with the company's plan LOL) then it would be no surprise that this whole thing is a rumor begun by scared shorts. PPS is quite high relative to where anyone would have shorted since Oct. A good Q would just kill those shorts. Perhaps they have much to fear?
The thing is WHO knows if they will come out with -.11 eps or beat that? Will they raise guidance? What will be enough? Those are tough questions without any other pressure or rumors. I was hoping for answers on the call.
Companies do not lay off 1,100 employess and nobody knows about it but a few rumorists on internet bulletin boards. This would be talked about on the Street, not to mention PRd and maybe even financial TV news.
Or am I just too naive and need to start believing that posters on yahoo get it right and get it before the media does?
You know what they say about the trash if you aren't a garbageman... don't pick it up! I imagine I will beleive even less of it once I read the yahoo boards.
But at least $INDU still above 12,350! (even if just barely) Oh man.. I dont' want to go and read Yahoo boards.
Nope, haven't heard a ting. Is that a good layoff b/c they have figured out how to work so effectively? a bad layoff bc they need to save $$ so desperately? or a rumored layoff bc the shorts are so antsy about what is forthcoming on Thursday?
yea, I was gonna say... intraday showed possible cup & handle forming but I dont have such a bully feeling about today.
Just saw this in a PR I got on GS. Will have to look into it. Looks like they are starting to pump.
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437,000: The AH print was for .03, the print on L2 was for .028
2/4 - 437,000 15:56:36 .028
2/4 - 437,000 16:04"27 .03
also:
1/31 - 15:59:45 - 221,000 - 0.034
1/31 - 16:00:15 - 221,000 - 0.032 - OTCEQ_NBB T (F)
1/30 - 15:46:07 - 400,000 - .0368 15:46
1/29 - 16:15:12 - 1,522,000 - .0359 - OTCEQ_NBB T (F)
1/29 - 15:55:48 - 1,522,000 - .037
1/28 - 16:03:57 - 580,500 - .0348 - OTCEQ_NBB T (F)
1/28 - 14:58:xx - 580,000 - .038
the 1/28 - 14:58 one is from a post (below), I did not see that trade myself.
Posted by: PoorNoMore
In reply to: $tock Weazel who wrote msg# 979
Date:1/28/2008 4:19:19 PM
Post #of 1448
I show that 580000 block at 14:58 @ .038
Mineral water and Spring water are different. At least in this country.
As far as where did the rest of the water $$ go... I do not know.
But some of it may be accounted for by how the exported water is valued. eg; Canadian govt may or may not value using something better than wholesale prices while the contract may or may not be valued using retail prices. There would be a huge difference to account for if this were the case. Just saying... there are many factors to attribute the discrepancies to, imo they must all be examined to make a fair determination.
Here are FDA definitions of Spring and Mineral waters
http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/botwatr.html
Spring Water
Water derived from an underground formation from which water flows naturally to the surface of the earth at an identified location. Spring water may be collected at the spring or through a bore hole tapping the underground formation feeding the spring, but there are additional requirements for use of a bore hole.
Mineral Water
Water containing not less than 250 ppm total dissolved solids that originates from a geologically and physically protected underground water source. Mineral water is characterized by constant levels and relative proportions of minerals and trace elements at the source. No minerals may be added to mineral water.
Aquagold is not mineral water. It is spring water.
But sadly, that amounts to even less $ in that PDF.
How does Canada calculate the value of water exported? Is there a price per liter, do they base the #s on reports from the exporting companies, or...?
The Canadian PDF relates only to products exported to China.
The newsletter states "Asia-Pacific region" rather than China.
HS PRODUCT DESCRIPTION In $Cdn 2004 2005 2006 2007-Sep 4-YR Total
220110 Mineral and aerated waters not cntg sugar or sweetening ma 9,426 29,930 72,215 596,247 707,818
220190 Ice & snow and potable waters nes not cntg sugar or sweeten 29,650 50,586 3,489 4,601 88,326
220210 Waters incl mineral & aerated,containing sugar or sweetenin 1,601 19,626 37,504 5,772 64,503
220290 Non-acloholic beverages nes, excluding fruit or veg juices o 0 2,492 1,393,956 0 1,396,448
Interesting L2 screwups. Now showing 2@ .065 x .1@ 079 on Alphatrade
Even AmeritradeQuotes it as .065 x .079
L2 over the last few minutes
2@ .065 x 1@ .079
1@ .062 x 3@ .08
1@ .06 x 1@ .095
2@ .055 x 1 .105
just changed from
.065 x .079
.062 x .08
.06 x .095
just changed from
.06 x .0965
.052 x .15
all MMs past this depth show as closed
.05 x .16
.071 x .073
2@ .069 x 2@ .074
MMs are adding times to their quotes on and off, switching from just dates... wierd stuff
You have to wonder if they are actually selling or if they're buying the bid.
L2 looking pretty good right now
4@ .03 x 1@ .032
1@ .028 1@ .033
1@ .025 x 1@ .037
3@ .022 x 2@ .038
2@ .02 x 1@ .04
Nice almost 1M volume already!
The complete report will be published on February 2, 2008, on the website. LOL! Suuuure it will.
If we don't see a good Q it will trend sideways and down. I want to say it will range between 2.70 - 3.40 But if the Q was really bad then clearly this takes off for 2.50 or worse and punishes us with ranges with highs around 2.70 - 2.95.
However, if the Q is good and they prove to have their act together (seems more likely to me) and are moving forward with improved guidance, then I say it gaps to 3.75 and breaks out in a hurry.
Unless the #s come out during the trading day - in which case it blows past 3.50 in a hurry. Either way, it shouldn't even stop for air until $4.00 on its way to $4.25
Both of those scenarios are based on looking at the chart as though they were reporting tomorrow. We should at least be above 3.20 and I think even PPS could be past 3.50 by that time, giving us a better base to leap from.
Happy Weekend Capin'!