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You would be happy w/ a 5x move in price next week? I don't blame you.
Has anyone looked at share price history after prev releases, & PRs, & etc?
What do you think is the upside?
If financials are factual, and durable (ie actually a growing business), at what multiple SHOULD ONCI trade?
What multiple of REVS?
What multiple of Earnings?
What would be a reasonable expectation?
ONCI: Would definitely expect a nice bounce/ w volume, on Monday.
I hope the longs get it - they've been consistent believers so a move would be nice, for sure.
If not, well, that would seem kinda weird.
ONCI needs a qualified trust-worthy accountant.
But that might get ugly...
I'm referring to your RESPONSE to me, not about ONCI. My post had nothing to do w/ ONCI.
You say you see me "ignoring and siding w/ the gang of bashers there..."
ignoring? siding w/? both?
Your posts often confuse me, which is why I engage w/ you, seeking clarification, but then I don't get it.
I'm not a member of any 'gang' - I just post my own original thoughts, as someone who makes money trading.
But whatever, your mission is different. That's clear.
noobs don't take notes, it's how they end up in down-trending stocks
"Right there in black and white!"
Hey everyone! I'm a $zillionaire! Up 26% from last yr when I was just a $sillionaire!
I'm on course, and fired up!
There ya go, it's in black & white. Don't make me write up a .doc and scan it w/ signatures to prove it!
Looking forward to Price & Volume movement so we can maybe make some money, or... what? what else should I be looking for here?
In the off-chance any of this is real, I would expect a buyout. If not, why not? Are msg board sub-penny traders the only geniuses who know how valuable ONCI is?
That would be way at-odds w/ all the 'contacts' Berman has claimed to have had w/ EVERYONE in any potential industry over the past yr.
My post referred to my prev post on GMER - No offense, but I think you should make a greater effort to understand what you're responding to.
As well, you should make an effort to understand what you're really buying, if you're talking about ONCI, which it appears you are.
Maybe consider less hyper-posting, and all those copy/paste posts on various boards.
Make your point with ORIGINAL thoughts. That would be more interesting to read.
Nothing wrong w/ disagreements - that's what makes a market, and nobody should get too angry or divisive. But IMO, you'd do well in life to put more thought into your arguments.
Just my 2c.
Best.
Isn't DE debt just a few $hundred thou?
Why is this such a big deal to pay?
Why would the stock move based on it being paid?
It's nothing compared to claimed (100% unverified) revenue growth, esp when debt should be expensed...
Why does EVERYTHING about ONCI smell bad?
Why won't the bulls provide ANY FACTUAL EVIDENCE of anything?
Repeating Berman's claims over and over ain't winning the war, nor does the countless promises of 'future' events (tweets, PRs, 'shareholder letters', audits, blah blah)
Here's ONCI's business strat:
Keep repeating the old lies
Overwhelm folks w/ completely NEW lies
Over promise
Under deliver
Those things may get you elected, but they don't pay the bills, or drive stock price higher for long once discovered.
Exited 1/2 over lunch, I may regret not dumping it all...
we'll see how Monday goes I guess
re GMER
Another good one, thanks mate.
Again, like TREP I won't overstay my welcome, and I certainly won't listen to those who claim these things are 'investments' - Make some money, and definitely DON'T let 'em take it away...
(obviously I don't expect these moves to last long, but you never know...)
Anyway, appreciate the heads up.
Trade 'em well.
"I am recording these events and will report it to SEC."
Well, if I were bullish I'd probs privately msg you and strongly request you DO NOT BRING any attention to the SEC.
SEC looking into ONCI & Berman likely wouldn't be good for longs.
I recommend you protect what you have, and rethink this.
But if you don't like OTC MMs, maybe raise your issue w/ OTC?
Good luck.
this one doesn't even make sense
too much 'sifthouse'?
"The Longs know what we own."
Impossible for anyone other than Berman to know what's going on.
He hasn't been honest or truthful, and the only 'info' is what he claims, or others claim on his behalf.
If you're bullish, cool. Buy more if you think it's a worthy bet. But why do you claim to "know" something just because some salesman who has taken over a stinky pink says it's so?
I recommend a healthy level of realism - not even skepticism, just realism.
Explain why YOU think ONCI is selling for nearly (after Berman's claims, oft-repeated here by others) 'cash on hand' (quick back-o-the-napkin calc based on 'monster' revenue growth as claimed, and what expenses?)
What makes you honestly believe that you, and tiny cohort of msg board users & tweeters, have secretly discovered a stinky-pink that's going to be amazing and lead to Lake Houses for all?
Please let me know WHY I should believe anything the bulls post when NOTHING can be independently verified.
Thanks!
if only there were verified revs... i agree, that WOULD be nice
"We have a man who works hard at doing our DD and it pays off nicely, well worth what it cost for him to do so..... "
Please clarify.
"We"? Curious who this refers to?
"a man" who does YOUR DD? I don't understand this statement.
"it pays off nicely"? does that mean there's been payment for info? - it can't mean 'onci investment paying off' because that clearly isn't happening yet.
"well worth what it cost" - again, sounds like payment for info?
Please clarify so this makes real sense.
Many thanks!
"if they have NO shares they have No right telling folks how to play with their money."
Mate I honestly wish you the best, BUT who is financially disinterested here, possibly offering 'unbiased' advice? And who "plays" with money?
Clearly there are many here who are familiar w/ scams and hesitant to put money to work (NOT 'play') in very suspicious down-trending, likely scams.
Apparently there are ALSO those who own shares, and publicly claim to buy more on every down-tick, and NEED this thing to move up to be vindicated, or crawl out of a financial hole, so they desperately try to convince others to buy more to drive the price higher...
Who has a financial interest?
Vs
who may possibly just trying to be helpful?
I know who I'd listen to.
"That would be 99% of all pinks."
I think you're referrring to the ones that are PUMPED as furiously as this one.
So, maybe 5-10% on a rolling basis, as the pumpers move from one to another.
"$5mil in revs, filed, legit. NEXT"
OMG, "filed" with otcmarkets.com? A marketing organization for OTC stocks?
C'mon.
"legit"? No way.
"NEXT" - that we agree on.
OK, not projections, my mistake. I was trying to give Berman some legal 'wiggle room.'
Who honestly believes these numbers? Why do you believe?
What did the revenue come from, exactly?
What was sold, to whom, exactly?
Where IS THAT MONEY NOW?
There's NO WAY this company has those 'real' revenues or it WOULDN'T BE SITTING HERE trading NO VOLUME w/ a market cap nearly equal to what SHOULD BE 'cash in the bank.'
No way.
If ANY OF THIS were true, Berman would pay the several $thou it takes to have a PROPER, FULL audit, done professionally by a REAL ACCOUNTING FIRM, not some guy who may be a lawyer.
Why HASN'T he done that? He'll promise to do it, again... and then most likely f* it up w/ another unknown, dodgy buddy 'signing off' on the numbers.
Imgagine where share price would be if ANYTHING he said was proven to be true. Do you know how easy it is to PROVE your business is real? He's gone yrs, unable to do this.
But nobody here cares what's TRUE, they just demand more "PR"!
Red flags ALL OVER THE SHOW w/ this.
Q1 2017 = 55k
Q2 2017 = 305k
Q3 2017 = 530k
Q4 2017 = 790k
Q1 2018 = 955k
Q2 2018 = 1.05mm
Q3 2018 = 1.2mm
Q4 = EST 1.5mm+
These were all "projections". He just 'adds 250K +/- a bit' each qtr. Berman couches all his fraud in terms designed to pass 'legal' issues.
I find it hard to believe all the promotional posts are actual 'longs,' other than a small handful of them that appear incredibly naive.
The more 'knowledgable' promo appear to have a different agenda, other than truth. Because NOBODY but the most naive could possibly believe there's a 'real business' here.
Best of luck to those underwater, I hope this thing catches fire for a few days so that you have the oppty to claw back some losses. Just DON'T BELIEVE that any bounce will last more than a short-term move that is a feature of all stinky-pinks. When the engineered bounce happens, use it wisely.
geez, is it obvious I've been up all night trading ES? lol.
I'll give you all a break and take the rest of the wk off here.
Hope you all make some money, on ONCI or whatever else you hold.
~
yes, and tighten those chin-straps.
Now, if you're a TRADER (tho I'm the only one here who has made that claim, the REST of you guys INSIST this is an "investment" that will result in lake houses...) then sure, do some scale-in buys on the way down, but that ONLY MAKES SENSE if you're scaling-out some on the days it goes UP.
That's my primary method in 'real things' like coffee futures, etc. That's a real thing, with a real cost of production, and real, verified demand.
Same with many commodity futures, but NOT w/ sub-penny make-believe companies. For these you BETTER be a trader - get in, make some or lose a little, and get out. Rinse, repeat if you like.
But don't buy all the way down. That's the definition of bag-holder.
Surely you understand this, it's not complicated.
"What if you're wrong, what will you do then"?
Who gives a shit? What harm is there in NOT LOSING MONEY while you wait until ANYTHING is proven. And 'if I'm wrong' and price and volume move UP, then buy it! Don't make it harder than it is.
What harm is there in buying WHEN PRICE & VOLUME are moving in the 'right direction' rather than buying and holding while it goes down nearly every day for a yr, while msg board promoters keep insisting 'you should buy more'.
For real companies, with real business, with real growth, there's ALWAYS PLENTY OF TIME to get onboard. Tell me of ANY good company that if you didn't buy it on the way down, you could never get onboard - that's a ridiculous assertion.
Or, you can take the pain train, and follow fools on msg boards (why else would anyone be LONG ONCI? There's ZERO evidence of verified revenues, let alone the "$millions" you guys keep claiming.)
Believe those who have been wrong all yr. That's your business. But why do you try to convince others that YOU are right, when you've clearly been wrong? All year. Yet, no shame, keep repeating whatever Steve tweets, and keep repeating whatever story any other promoter on the board says.
Repeating BAD ADVICE doesn't make it any better.
"The more calculated risk you take the more money you make"
Well, unless YOUR CALCULATIONS ARE BAD!
Of course w/ ONCI those calcs have been shown repeatedly over the past yr to have been bad.
Wonder what the orig calculations were based on?
Wonder what the new improved calculations are based on?
Or are they the same?
The reason I ask, is because the 'promises' that keep getting repeated on this board HAVE NOT CHANGED in the past yr, except for one or 2 that have ALSO not been proven in ANY way.
Promises, by tweet, or promotional msg board posts, are NOT things worth putting into the 'calculation' of risk.
You may need to consider changing your formula.
3000 shares available, so if you short you can pocket $5? How much $commish on that?
Who would short at $.0016? That seems nuts. I 'know a guy' who would be a buyer @ .0015-.0017 and a seller @ .0018-.0020 all day every day with this action...
But who would be naked short? Nobody.
Feel free to read my bio. I trade full time for a living for 10+ yrs. Been in the markets for over 30 yrs.
Feel free to read thru any of my old posts. Please point out any technicalities you disagree with (other than you LOVE LOVE LOVE onci, obviously I don't agree on that with this PRICE & VOLUME action).
I know you're VERY BUSY posting on this and other boards, and apparently 'always a buyer, never a seller', but again, between promoting sub-pennies and buying more of them, and ordering your new ONCI gadget & getting it up & running, and posting the pics & that youtube vid, PLEASE read thru my posts here & elsewhere and let me know where I've gone astray.
I love learning, and I'll admit I make mistakes.
I said:
"Nobody can "forget" all the lies and intentional disinformation: It gets repeated here 100x every day."
You said:
"I do because I was not an investor a year ago. A year ago the stock was way over priced"
I'm confused:
1. You forget "all the lies and intentional disinformation: It gets repeated here 100x every day." EVEN THO YOU'RE THE ONE POSTING IT?
Weird.
2. You bought something that you know was way overpriced a yr ago, held it thru a 90% or whatever loss, and still think others should consider you a reliable source of investment or trading info?
Also weird.
You live in an interesting world.
"You are making an excellent point. I am now on the verge of buying one"
That's awesome, I eagerly await the details of your purchase:
Where you bought it
How much you paid
What vehicle 'mods' were required
What software you downloaded onto your phone
What training was required/provided and by whom
Please post pics here of the process, and seriously consider an awesome youtube video showing how easy the whole thing is, and how awesome it works.
Maybe Berman will cut you a check for your service, and you can bet all the bulls here will love to see this stock finally move on something real.
Heck, I'll be a big buyer myself if this actually shows meaningful life.
Please get on this RIGHT AWAY and keep us updated on order, shipping or whatever (depending on how you decide to source it).
This is gonna be awesome for all of us. Thanks Dewm!
Nobody can "forget" all the lies and intentional disinformation:
It gets repeated here 100x every day.
Show me the money:
Actual REVENUES, confirmed by non-interested 3rd party (standard for any legit business).
Actual PRICE & VOLUME movement, other than smallest of small retail traders swapping spit on a daily basis.
Believe whatever promotional BS you want to believe, here or on the many other sub-penny boards posted on.
Do you own one of ONCI's gadgets? Of course not, nor will you ever.
The ONLY thing *new* on your list that wasn't on their 1 yr ago is "C Max and AN"
Is it really too hard, or too long, to spell them out?
I won't mention your 'revenue' number because that's CLEARLY a lie. What has ONCI sold and recognized real dollars from? No way, and you know it.
But the rest... c'mon. Berman's been saying ALL THOSE THINGS for OVER A YR, and each time he tweets some stupid new revised timeline, you guys repeat it like it's acceptable that NOTHING he has said has come to pass.
"Why are there so many people talking negatively about ONCI"
Have you EVER in your life made an effort to help others, or prevent them from making a mistake?
I'm amazed why others find this SO DIFFICULT to understand.
Yet these same folks will give EVERYONE ELSE a "pass" who has recommended "buy more!" at every level down over the past yr.
THOSE PEOPLE are who I WONDER ABOUT: What's THEIR goal? I don't understand why folks show so much love to others who have been proven wrong for so long.
Maybe this will turn around; if it does it won't be 'the secret' all the bulls would have you believe - we'll ALL SEE IT, and then maybe have a chance to make some money.
But why HATE the folks who have been TRYING to HELP YOU stay off this for the past yr? Please ANSWER THIS.
What have the BULLS SAID that has been proven true?
What REVENUE has been verified, other than Steve 'just saying it'?
Please help me understand why you believe someone who invents *new claims* on a regular basis, then moves on before EVER producing on the *old claims*.
"SB explained"...
That's the issue here: EVERYTHING about ONCI is "SB explaining" something. SB 'explaining' everything. But no factual 3rd-party confirmed REVENUE of any substance.
Explanations.
Excuses.
Stories.
Fantasy.
Lies?
Or maybe he's actually the brilliant businessman all the promoters make him out to be.
You get to decide, with your hard-earned money.
Just don't let the explanations, excuses, stories or fantasies take that money away from you.
OK, good luck to you as well.
If it moves I'll certainly re-consider it for trading, and I may have to pay a higher price to get onboard. But I guaran-damn-tee you I will also be OFF of it before it has an opportunity to take much of MY money.
Trade well. Invest well. DON'T LOSE MONEY, and if you don't listen to anybody it's unlikely you'll be a bag holder. Leave that to the other guys who believe what promoters sell on msg boards.
Whenever someone calls a 'bear' a 'scammer', you should smell a rat.
"Money speaks volumes"
Dawg that's what I've been trying to say, for a while now.
Show me the money, factual non-related, 3rd-party confirmed REVENUE and real financial statements. Steve refuses. REFUSES. [Insert 100 excuses why here]
ALTERNATIVELY, for a trade, show me the money, in daily dollar trading volume. $15k is a joke. When we start seeing 40MM share days, well then maybe it's worth another trade.
MONEY talks, the rest is nonsense imo.
what's the 'ulterior motive' and how did you discover it? Honest question.
ONCI *may* have another run in the future, who knows?. That would be awesome for many. BUT THERE'S NO WAY 'secret buyers' are 'scamming people out of their shares' - it doesn't work that way.
If any "big money" wanted in, they'd BE IN already. Obviously nobody is interested, which is why this trades $15k dollar-volume each day.
Believe what you want to believe, but I'm REALLY CURIOUS why you think it's a 'scam' to suggest you should STAY AWAY from buying this until something is shown to be FACT, or PRICE & VOLUME suggest a move is imminent?
And yet, you somehow believe Berman or other promoters that 'scammers are stealing shares cheap'!
They say, "a fool and his money are soon parted" - well that was me, in my younger days, because I followed others. What's the worst that can happen if you remain suspicious, and say 'prove it, w/ PRICE & VOLUME'? What's better, getting onboard when a move is present, or just buying blindly because of msg board promo, and then watching it drip drip drip lower for a yr?
Why is it a 'scam' to suggest the 'prove it' method?
Go to the TREP board, go to the BIEL board.
Same price action, in earlier stages. My posts trying to warn others to NOT BUY THE DOWNTREND were removed. I was treated as a newb who isn't capable of seeing "the brilliant future" those stocks will have, based on whatever excuses the promoters on THOSE boards want to give.
Whatevs. If you read msg boards, you MUST understand the promo, especially behind sub-pennies that don't have real businesses, just promises.