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What dividend are you talking about?? Cash dividend or like another stock we know so well, a dividend of stock (dilution). It won't be a cash dividend, they don't have any. Also as you state the split may not happen, and that is very true, yet the debt conversion increases shares to over 120 million, more dilution. where can you possibly see a dividend and a positive outlook on the above?
unfortunately had to use earnings in this way, because in a P/E Ration the E equals net earnings / profits, yet there are no profits. So currently there is no PE ratio, so the share price is even more overvalued. Now you can look at future earnings but that's arguable as well. Lets see when the 10K comes out if they are even close to profitability, until then PE ratio is nonexistent but a good look at the extreme price of this stock post split if it happens anyways.
What squeeze, ok do this, at 3:59 ET, put in an order to sell at bid for 100 shares, that drops the pps way below the 10 percent and will force the MM's to cover correct? why not try that and see what kind of a squeeze there is.
so let's look at it post split using your numbers, I'm assuming you meant earnings not profit for the p/e Ratio:
$1,000,000/3,000,000 shares= .33333
.33x20= $6.6
Yet after the split pps at current level of .40 will be $80.
So it will be overvalued by 1112 percent.
Do you honestly believe investors will pay that premium for a 15 year old stock that at a minimum is just breaking even if that?? With financing for ongoing operations in question? With upcoming dilution because we all know, based on the proxy, that authorized shares will increase and used for further activities. Good Luck on that one.
That's why the pps needs to stay low pre split and it won't be a 1 for 200.
profitability is also a major issue at the moment.
Good Morning Jack,
First on the other stock it wasn't the MM it was the CEO.
Second, hold as long as you want, but if you bought at .09 and sold at .50 you made 500 percent. Isn't that what you are here for? Where else can you make that kind of money? I've just layed out why you will not see these types of gains once the split is over.
Third, Have you noticed that by the proxy all the executives have options within 60 days of 1 Feb to buy more shares, and have they?? Not one.
Greed is the downfall, 500 percent gain would make most people happy, you have convinced others to hold and hold forever, we'll see what you tell them in the future, probably the same as what should be said on the other board, "i'm sorry"
so you see the pps post split at 500 dollars with a valuation of 1.5 billion?? Not likely, let's not forget the dilution that will take place as per proxy, they want to use the stock as currency with an increase in authorized shares.
Let's look at some common sense here, you can talk about the "short" game all day long but with no proof of the amount of shares each MM has in it's "bank" is pointless.
I do not believe you want a high pps pre reverse split. And here's why:
At a pps of .50, the post split pps will be 100 dollars, as per proxy after all is said and done there will be 3 million shares. So post split you now put a valuation on this company with no profit at 300 million dollars. That in itself is nuts and you will see pps fall like a rock. If after the split you are looking for a windfall let's just say of 100 percent return on your money, pps would have to raise to 200 dollars per, thus a valuation of 600 million dollars. That is even more nuts.
Pre split you need the pps to go back into the teens so post split is around 25-50 dollars, that way valuation is not as great and individual investors have a more likely ability and tendancey to buy those shares.
For those of you who bought in the teens, selling now you gain over 100+ percent, something I find hard to believe will happen post split. Based on valuation alone!! Something to really think about. Where are your best chances to make money, now or post split.
I also doubt the reverse split will happen after the vote because the board of directors are smart enough to know that type of valuation does not do the company one bit of good, or at a minimum the 1 for 200 will be 1 for 50 or less.
now how can you put in an order for a high bid yet no market order? Time to change brokers
Its very easy to understand, doesn't matter what your bid is if there is an ask lower than that, you get that price. Just because you say you are willing to pay 1.00 per share as an example, and the current ask is .49 you're going to pay .49; might as well just put in a market order; as far as all the talk about the changing ask, it's also easy, for those day traders who monitor stock price, all they do is change their limit sell orders when they see the price going up or down, it's instantaneous to cancel an order and replace with another higher if people are buying etc. Goes for both bid and ask.
still doing dd???? how?, no 8k, no 10q, no 10K, last financials in question. No past 8k's or PR's have happened in the last year except the montana plant that resulted in CPOW being taken to court for breech of contract. No verification Chinese delegation ever showed, no verification all the "hirings" ever happened. no verification of new CFO, constant tail wagging the dog. Just what DD is there to do on a company that has a cease trade order in Canada from September of 2011 for not paying fees, not filing required documents. See www.bcsc.bc.ca for that info. Nothing about this company has been proven to be legitimate since the pump and dump facilitated by the CEO's 2 for one dividend a week prior to the pump.
Would like to know just what you base your optimism on?? Look back to the beginning to middle of 2011 and look at all the questions I posed. If you can answer one of them you'll be lucky. Nothing but garbage including the last PR of a proposed merger??? That would warrant an 8K, a shareholder meeting and vote, have you heard of one??? NOPE. Looking forward to your DD, of course no audited financials in how long??? a year plus??
Obviously you failed again to see my point. You need a round lot for most companies to keep you as an investor otherwise they will require you to buy enough to make 100 shares or sell your shares and send you the proceeds. That's why it matters. Look it up, it's all there. Companies cannot afford to send out proxy's and annual reports to shareholders who only have a couple of shares. You'll need 20000 shares pre split (100 post split) to maintain your shares.
"A reverse stock split not only reduces the number of shares but also reduces the number of shareholders. For every shareholder, there is a minimum limit on the no. of shares he/she should hold at any time. When a reverse stock split happens the number of shares on the market reduces and the share price increases. In the same scale the no. of shares held by all investors reduces.
But those shareholders who are having less number of shares than the minimum limit are forced to leave the shares by taking the cash equivalent of the total share value they were holding during the reverse split."
Read more: http://bizcovering.com/investing/reverse-stock-split-does-it-matter-to-a-shareholder/#ixzz1nvOlbUzu
Please explain what is off the wall junk, then dispute them with facts. Anything is better than buy and hold and never sell, or nasdaq, rinse and repeat, or claims of exploding stock price with no supporting thought process. Again, I posted the NITE website to discredit the belief that these MM's are individuals instead of financial corporations. But either way time will tell. Have a great weekend.
Easy, don't submit market order, submit limit order (GTC) doesn't matter if you work or not. Put it in and wait. Why do you keep saying NASDAQ??? they are far from the criteria. Please tell me what will make this stock price explode?? If it was such a great deal don't you think you'd have all those loyal friends in philadelphia purchasing shares??? There's a reason they are not.
Now how would I do it. I'd stay away from this stock, wait and see what happens, unless you wish to gamble for now that's all it is. I'd stick to other more well established stocks, those that have done very well this year in the oil service business, but that's for another discussion.
As for the Top, it may be now if this company does not get the financing it needs to continue. There is a reason for the Proxy and I've already explained that.
Now remember once these shares do the reverse split it will force a washing away of smaller investors. Most companies will require an investor to have at least 100 shares (a round lot). Meaning if you don't currently have 20,000 shares, after the split you will have less than 100. You'll then get a notice to purchase additional shares to get to the round lot, or your shares will be sold and proceeds sent to you. So 6000 dollars at .30 will get you to 20000 shares or 100 post reverse split. Do you have these?? If not at todays price 60 dollars a share post reverse split. If pps rises will cost you even more to maintain as a shareholder. Good Luck again.
Time for education: NITE:
http://www.knight.com/
Funny you said that, you see you had an individual who manipulated the share price by overpaying the ask. All of you buyers were, previous to that, getting shares at .19 or below, then along came someone who wanted to make some sort of point by buying at the ask, therefore artificially raising the pps. Now you are all paying 50-75 percent higher pps then you were a week ago. Not a very good strategy. As long as you could get the share price at such "cheap" levels, why would anyone pay the ask??
Get in fine, gamble as you will, but be advised it may spike initially after the split but only briefly until reality sets in and you realize that the valuation of the company is absurd,especially when this stock can NOT go on to the NASDAQ for years, therefore you will not see an inflow of investors. All you'll get is a mini pump and dump; it is then that the pps will drop sharply. The question is will you still hang on or will you sell at the top, and repurchase when it hits bottom.
Good Luck to you Sir.
And to think so many on this board thinks Auto, Nite, etc were just one evil person doing their best to destroy the stock price. Wonder if any of them knew they were corporations etc.
So much time worrying about the "shorty" and NO ONE not one talking about fundamentals of this company. You see if they decide on a date to do the Split, increase the float etc as per the proxy it may not be for months. But once it happens, if it happens, then what??? If you believe in this company going forward shouldn't you be concerned with revenue? PPS? EPS? Profitability? Overhead?? R&D costs and results? Play the penny stock game, that's fine, yet don't claim this is a great company and avoid talking about the basics. If all you care about is the "short covering" that's fine, but be prepared to get in and out quick as you will see as per the proxy, dilution will take place and will effect your portfolio. Reverse split means nothing, your 100 dollars before the split will still be 100 dollars after, that is until more shares are made available as stated in the proxy. Do you honestly believe that institutional investors will care for a stock that continues to be in the red??? Even after 15 years? Good luck and all have a great weekend.
You are correct, LOWER. Another PR come and gone with no validity, even Jack took his name off as an assistant moderator on this board, he's concentrating on another stock. No 8k, no 10q. Time to let dead dogs lie.
Very interesting as those who claim the regsho shorts are absolute and evil, yet we have an individual who stated he purchased almost 7000 shares today, yet regsho show's 10000 of 12000 were shorted?? Only 2000 "purchased"?? Do these numbers make sense? Goes to show you as was previously posted months ago the REGSHO "short" numbers are grossly inaccurate. Doubtful shorts exist as is proven by today's sales and Regsho report.
No press, it's called available float controlled by the MM, just like the major finance companies that control floats for the major corporations. Not every share in the float is owned. Therefore someone has to control the unspoken for shares. Conspiracy it is not!!
If it's so cheap, why not just pay the ask, what's one penny?? March 12 may only be the vote, question is also when will they publish the actual execution date of these proposed items. Could be months. But once this happens, where are they getting the funds to continue operations?
OOPS, I meant a 2 for one stock dividend, not a split. Thus one share became three which trippled the shares, diluted and thus facilitated the pump.
Oh please provide proof that "Mike" had no knowledge. And explain why He authorized a 2 for one stock split just weeks prior to the pump which facilitated this pump. Coincidence, I doubt it. And why dismiss someone "advertising" for CPOW. Isn't this what you need, more investors???? Isn't this how you found out about this supposedly legitimate company? Isn't this a game you play, we know the pennies have no legitimate claim to the business world. So why now complain about potential new investors coming in. Question is can those that bought actually let go of their shares if any new pump is at best temporarily successful, or will greed continue to prevail while disregarding even the basic fundamentals. I bet the card didn't mention the continued lack of financial reports, nor the Cease Trade Order still in effect in Canada.
www.cpow.ca is up and running but now if you click on the "products" tab a new window opens and you get this:
The Store is currently being moved to a new Hosting Provider
We apologize for any inconvenience.
Please check back shortly.
The original tab on the new website was same as the old one. Missing information, incomplete, "under construction" No privacy statement, just empty pages other than products they supposedly sell. You'd think that after a year, the CEO's IT's, whoever he hired would get this straight. Someone does not know what they are doing. Looks like a one man show that is struggling even to get the website going.
No, because no official SEC documentation was ever filed (8k), For the merger to take place, it would take shareholder approval and submission to the SEC. PR's hold no weight. CPOW has history of PR's that do not happen. Only time will tell.
Old news, see previous posts about this. Neither company has this mentioned on their websites, CPOW still has cease trade order in effect in Canada, Looks to me like potential pump and dump may be in the works. Buy 4 million shares at say .016 for 640,000 dollars. Pay a couple of newsletters 35,000 each to pump the stock with this "new" info. It goes up to .032, they just made over 500,000 dollars. And think what may happen if it goes up further. That's the gamble with these penny stocks. You can win if you own in the beginning but will cost all those that get in later. Not saying this is happening, but no other reason or news for someone to invest so much money.
It happens to the best of us. Have a great weekend!!
Now that's an expensive share, $10 with cost of trade. OUCH.
www.cpow.ca is back up and running, yet the "products" tab is a direct indication on the status of this company. Why would you reestablish your website and not fix the one thing that is supposedly making you money. Someone is lacking serious business sense. Beware of the subpenny future.
Website discontinued?? Tried today and got nothing but Temporarily unavailable? Whether www.cpow.us or www.cpow.ca or www.cleanpowerconcepts.com all of them go to the same message. Maybe someone has some insight?? Another bill not paid??, no more MOPO store??, No more "investor relations"??. Maybe "Mike" tweeted something, or wrote to the assistant moderator?? Strange, and right after another questionable PR.
That's like saying Anheuser Busch can't deliver beer because it was bought out by InBev, a world wide company. Actually having international exposure is a plus.
That's only one of many and you know that
I've already provided links to prove your statement as incorrect, I've already explained the "bad". The move up to a different market may happen but will be much later than the 15th. It just doesn't happen overnight.
Jack, I've already told you, going to the website for info is a small part of any investigation into a company. This is Company PR. Why do you insist on posting and reposting links that we've all seen on the website? This does not negate the competition, TEVE's small company and lousy financials, nor does it negate their current financial position and what they are being forced into. Have you read the Proxy start to finish? How many times is the word Dilution mentioned?
Oh come on now, the explanation is an easy one. If a company has so much debt that they cannot pay it, what does that mean to you?, if they do not do this debt for share swap what do you think this company would have to do. And remember for companies either a chapter 11, restructuring or chapter 7 liquidation. Chapter 11 being the more likely. That's what happens when you can't pay your debt, even if it is to the majority stockholder. Debt and Tax laws take precedence over personal feelings.
Interesting, here's a link to IBI announcing executive additions in 2008, one of Jeff Carter, name sound familiar? Supposedly one of those individuals Mike Shenher hired last year:
http://www.biodieselindustries.net/newexecutivejpinibi.html
On their website they also have this undated Warning:
http://www.biodieselindustries.net/warning.html
Website also has a copyright of 2007.
I emailed IBI Investor relations to confirm CPOW's press release. We'll see if we get an answer. I'll let you know. So far not one of CPOW's PR's came true except the Montana Plant which resulted in a lawsuit. MMMMM wonder how this one will go.
investor@biodieselindustries.net
This is where I get that from:
"It is understood that an important factor in the TelVue Board’s consideration of the Conversion has been the likelihood that TelVue will not have sufficient internally generated resources to repay the Notes as they become due, and may not be able to refinance the Notes on acceptable terms in the current environment. "
That's from the Proxy statement. So what do you call a company that has the inability to pay its debt? Mr Lenfest is accepting shares because that's all this company has to pay it's debt. It's in black and white. Internally generated resources, ie not enough revenue to continue. I call that on the verge of a restructuring bankruptcy. What do you call it??? That is also where I form an opinion that Mr Lenfest is discontinuing his financial support for this company, otherwise he could continue doing what he has been doing give them more money, but that's not happening is it. So they will be looking elsewhere and as the proxy says, use "shares as currency". Continued dilution.
Now you can answer why you feel its inevitable that the investor wins with this deal. Did you read the same proxy I did?? Good Luck!!
The question you have to ask yourself is where does TEVE fit in with the competion, so as to not rename any other companies, it's easy to find out by google(ing) On line video streaming companies. Previous posts have discussed ROKU and TEVE, yet TEVE is not the sole source of equipment to ROKU. You can Google that. For the future of PEG many links available one of which I previously posted. Read the Proxy but take off the rose colored glasses first and honestly assess. When the 10Q comes out then you can compare those financials to others. You can compare the prebankruptcy plan on paying off the debt with shares because of lack of cash, with financial status of other companies. You can compare the dilution when pre-reverse split the available shares go from 49 million to 122 million. Remember once the reverse split happens you will have a pps in the dollars, and what do investors look for? P/E Ratio. Earnings per share. regardless of the stock price the earnings per share will be negative. Your dilution will already have taken place, after the reverse split the value of your current shares will remain the same, so, take a chance and go for it if you are inclined. I wish you all the best and to have a great weekend.
Again Joe, I'm not pushing any company, and the one mentioned is a private company. I provided what the assistant moderator asked for, a list of companies set for the future. I have provided those. People need to investigate the competition and compare that to where TEVE is. Not doing so does a disservice to self. have a great weekend.
You wanted a list of companies, see the below links, and these are just a few.
http://go.brightcove.com/content/en-brightcove-video-hosting-v1?c=70130000000jfhB&gclid=CJ294OeAgq4CFQOR7QodyjPE6g
http://www.zeitbyte.com/webcast-production/webcasting?gclid=CNrp5YeBgq4CFQ2R7QodVXcu5g
http://info.bitgravity.com/KW-BG-Live-New.html?cid=go_us_live-streaming&utm_source=google&utm_medium=ppc&utm_term=keyword&utm_campaign=campaign&utm_content=creative&gclid=CMX39KKBgq4CFdCP7Qod3mZS2Q
http://247wallst.com/2010/04/22/the-online-video-streaming-business-gets-too-crowded/
http://www.streamingmedia.com/Articles/Editorial/Featured-Articles/Yahoo-and-Sony-Map-Out-Digital-Living-Room-Strategies-80228.aspx