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Good Bye DON from HSM. Why not disappear about now like the rest of the main pumpers that have taken to their private little treehouse. Best not to make yourselves visible to all those "investors" that you misled - with any luck you will be named in the fraud charges for this Pump and Dump scheme.
Seems stupid to hang around and continue to pump this stock, and berate and ban anyone that questioned it months ago. Hope you are leaving with a really guilty conscience and a subpoena from the SEC over your behavior - that would be most fitting. Karma, actually. It is my hope and dream that people like you wake up and realize what you have done and how you have hurt investors, hurt other pennystocks.
Don't think that it is not in the minds of many that lost their livelihoods due to your bannings and control of information on that HSM board just because they have not posted it. My day will really be made when I hear that PHIL has been subpoened and has been forced to stop posting. I have been doing my best work behind the scenes to make this happen...I'll be waiting....
Originally Posted by CaptainSolo
Deck the halls with useless stock certs
fa la la la la ..la la la la
Hold them all until it hurts
fa la la la la ..la la la la
Buy some more if you got money
fa la la la la ..la la la la
All the bashers think it's funny
fa la la la la ..la la la la
Tut, we need to get a filing
fa la la la la ..la la la la
That will surely get us smiling
fa la la la la ..la la la la
Rufus needs to buy more ponies
fa la la la la ..la la la la
He will prove that he's no phony
fa la la la la ..la la la la
Sabra Dabbs is a big meatball
fa la la la la ..la la la la
She thinks the bonds are on the recall
fa la la la la ..la la la la
Crap someone finish this or it will go on and on!!!!!
LOL! I actually thought for a few posts that it was Krisscritter yanking their chain over on HSM. I bet he could pull off something like that.
A lady in the House was Rufus' Mom's account - it was validated by HSMers. I do not know if Rufus is using it for his own agenda.
LP640 raised my red flag a few days ago -- I haven't had time to dig deeper on that one. Quite the entertainer though - some suggested LP was missemma. Have Missemma's post also been deleted from the archives? I see that TUT still has some - I think a person can edit their own out, but not the archived ones. I'll check on it later. This was just a quicky - as I passed by the computer, I couldn't help myself!
If you do a search on my posts here with the word "BODI" you will find a number of them. Seems his last post was on the 28th or 29th of September. What happened on that date? Anything significant?
LOL! You never saw my posts connecting the name Bodi and Bodizifa to Mike Alexander apparently.
Go and read all of Bodi's posts on HSM ...quite an interesting guy. I saved the best in case there were more deletions on HSM.
XL, are you still in communication with Rufus? It looks like from these posts that you were working on that stopthefraud thing and going after people like MN1 and OurStreet. Is that still active??
30west
Sep 28th, 2006, 07:34 PM
To avoid confusion or duplication, you are asked to provide said information to me at my e-mail address: xlr8rs@aol.com. Please note that this e-mail address has been set up for this specific purpose------------------------------------------------------------------------
30west
Sep 28th, 2006, 07:34 PM
All e-mail coming to this address will be collected and forwarded to CSHD for further handling. CSHD will handle the matter as they deem appropriate and this should not be construed to mean that a press release will be issued within any particular time frame. Thanks - Charli------------------------------------------------------------------------
30west
Sep 28th, 2006, 07:33 PM
ATTENTION: Very important!! I have been in touch with corporate and have been advised as follows: RPH has been updated regarding today’s events regarding MN1. In addition, he has been advised that numerous shareholders are desirous of releasing their own press release regarding the events of today.------------------------------------------------------------------------
30west
Sep 28th, 2006, 07:33 PM
We have been advised that if a press release is published, it will be done by CSHD on our behalf. Any shareholder who witnessed the events of today and is desirous of being included in such a release is asked to provide their full name, address and phone number, along with a summary of their complaint to CSHD.------------------------------------------------------------------------
30west
Sep 28th, 2006, 07:35 PM
put my posts together!!!!!------------------------------------------------------------------------
xlr8rs
Sep 28th, 2006, 07:36 PM
ATTENTION: Very important!! I have been in touch with corporate and have been advised as follows: RPH has been updated regarding today’s events regarding MN1. In addition, he has been advised that numerous shareholders are desirous of releasing their own press release regarding the events of today. We have been advised that if a press release is published, it will be done by CSHD on our behalf. Any shareholder who witnessed the events of today and is desirous of being included in such a release is asked to provide their full name, address and phone number, along with a summary of their complaint to CSHD. To avoid confusion or duplication, you are asked to provide said information to me at my e-mail address: xlr8rs@aol.com. Please note that this e-mail address has been set up for this specific purpose. All e-mail coming to this address will be collected and forwarded to CSHD for further handling. CSHD will handle the matter as they deem appropriate and this should not be construed to mean that a press release will be issued within any particular time frame. Thanks - Charli------------------------------------------------------------------------
Vishamerica
Sep 28th, 2006, 07:39 PM
Quote:
ATTENTION: Very important!! I have been in touch with corporate and have been advised as follows: RPH has been updated regarding today’s events regarding MN1. In addition, he has been advised that numerous shareholders are desirous of releasing their own press release regarding the events of today. We have been advised that if a press release is published, it will be done by CSHD on our behalf. Any shareholder who witnessed the events of today and is desirous of being included in such a release is asked to provide their full name, address and phone number, along with a summary of their complaint to CSHD. To avoid confusion or duplication, you are asked to provide said information to me at my e-mail address: xlr8rs@aol.com. Please note that this e-mail address has been set up for this specific purpose. All e-mail coming to this address will be collected and forwarded to CSHD for further handling. CSHD will handle the matter as they deem appropriate and this should not be construed to mean that a press release will be issued within any particular time frame. Thanks - Charli
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Guys,
these are the only people that will help you guys out. so if you are pissed and want to do something about it. Email Charli. In the long run this doesnt really matter but, if this helps Mr. Rufus nail Our-Street and MN1, then i'm all for it.
That is all.------------------------------------------------------------------------
xlr8rs
Sep 28th, 2006, 07:42 PM
Quote:
I'm paranoid. If they're honest and legit I apologize fully in advance. But I can't give that info away to a random poster.
CSHD has an anti-fraud email address when these people attacked the stock price the first time.
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Techno: I fully understand and anticipated such. You should receive confirmation before too long.------------------------------------------------------------------------
xlr8rs
Sep 28th, 2006, 07:43 PM
_______________
Also, please note that CSHD has their own anti-fraud email as was mentioned in previous releases.
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Techno,
That was considered prior to this message. The anti-fraud e-mail receives thousands of messages every day. It was decided to keep a separate collection address for this issue.------------------------------------------------------------------------
xlr8rs
Sep 28th, 2006, 07:53 PM
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Quote:
I know your legit, so I hope everyone does'nt worry about it. I missed the last hour or so, what are you guys trying to do? Put together a PR against
MN1 with shareholders names????
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Yes. The shareholders that witnessed what happened today wanted to release their own PR. I felt like it should be cleared by RPH first and this is the response I was asked to relay.------------------------------------------------------------------------
kash
Sep 28th, 2006, 07:57 PM
Xlr8rs I'm not saying what you are trying to do is bad, but I will let CSHD speak for me. If pr is going to be released about Cshd and its shareholders I will let the CEO do the talking.------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wonder if Mike brought his pistol with him - like the time he shot that bison in the head when he was with dogman and dave.
What's a "deerlease"?
bodi
Sep 28th, 2006, 08:01 PM
Hello all...did I miss anything...i was at the deerlease...if I would have had a mike I would have used my com to call in and abuse mr miles...it would have been like alexander the great...but oh well...tonight I dream CSHD dreams...the war still rages...
Peace------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wonder why Bodi doesn't post anymore - new alias?
BTW, I found xl and her "other" alias.
Wonder what the odds are that this will still go to the nasdaq????
portman
Member
posted October 05, 2006 15:11
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quote:
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Originally posted by mnvestor:
Take this FWIW:
If anyone else can very that would be great.
(12:31 PM) xlr8rs: True story: We had friends who got in yesterday. When the husband went to Fidelity to buy, his broker told him that this one was a good one to get into because it was going to NASDAQ. The broker had something indicating that the filings had been made for CSHD to go to NASDAQ.
- Paltalk scroll.
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Like you MNV...I have yet to see XL lie.
This would not surprise me either way. I think it will go. As to if this is what Rufus is waiting on I do not know.
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- "Pay it Forward"
I was hoping for a xlr8rs sighting. She apparently received one of those John Smith emails and would love to hear her comment. Too bad she doesn't want to share! I don't even see her posting on HSM - she must be in the Paltalk room with the "others".
I doubt these HSMers are aware of what they are doing. Hope they don't plan that "drive-by" as Kplatt mentioned on an innocent party. These guys are sick. why don't they just report it to the SEC/FBI? A bunch of vigilantes - tsk tsk.
Today, 05:11 PM #14675
ww2player
HSM Enthusiast
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 804
Quote:
Originally Posted by phil
this is the county tax page where you can find out who owns property in that county.
https://www1.forsythco.com/PayPropertyTax/
that show 3555 as being 1 acre with a building value of $5,500.00
I think the house number is 3554 castleberry
building value $132,700.00 land value $125,100.00 4.3400 acres
snicker...
Today, 03:27 PM #14596
CBGB
HSM Regular
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 474
Quote:
Originally Posted by klplatt81
TallDave and I know right where this is at....might be time for a drive-by!
You can go to a title co. or a mortgage person and have them do a "comp" on them and find out who owns this property in a instance plus the property history. Maybe he is a connection the bashers on IHUB, such as he pays them their checks from the bosses or he is the the basher on IHUB. Busted??? I hope....
I do believe these Texans LOVE their guns!
HEY PHIL!!! Has it even dawned on you for a second that we are not bashers and what we say are not lies??? Pretty novel idea, n'est pas?
Originally Posted by phil
lies are a measure of credibility amongst the bashers. It's interesting that they are still bashing it. Must mean the short still isnt covered, and they see a risk.
Wonder what Kevin Platt has planned??? LOL!
Today, 02:39 PM #14558
rwalden
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,676
Quote:
Originally Posted by klplatt81
TallDave and I know right where this is at....might be time for a drive-by!
don't take your guns to town son, leaving your guns at home kev.....lol
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Today, 02:40 PM #14561
legalnoob
HSM Addict
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,538
Quote:
Originally Posted by klplatt81
TallDave and I know right where this is at....might be time for a drive-by!
I wouldn't want to be John Smith watching this board right now....
Geez, these HSMers never stop the entertainment. Now Kplatt is talking of doing a "drive-by" John Smith's house with TallDave.
Today, 02:37 PM #14556
klplatt81
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 857
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuttoday
Now the information we care about:
X-Originating-IP: [68.233.190.156]
68.233.190.156
United States- Cumming, GA
ISP- Adelphia
Metro Code- Atlanta, GA *metro code 524*
Area code 770
If you go to http://www.ip-adress.com/
and enter the ip listed above you'll get a map... once you get the map... click on "big satellite picture"... you can zoom in a ways... looks like a rather nice private residence.
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TallDave and I know right where this is at....might be time for a drive-by!
HEY HSMers! That IP on Castleberry - It's probably just Adelphia building - purchasing dept.
"In addition, the information can be found on Channel 4 of Adelphia Cable TV and in the entrance way to the Purchasing Department at 118 Castleberry Rd, Cumming, GA 30040. "
Did Dabbs know Mitch beforehand??? Sure was a lot of praising going on in this PR. Wonder what the words "expedient manner" meant to Rufus. He was right about the "nothing short of amazing" part of his statement.
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:JN30CG1qmBgJ:atlanta.citybizlist.com/lstg/lstgDetail.aspx%3Fid%3...
CSHC would also like to announce the addition of Sabra Dabbs and Mitchell Sepaniak to our team of professionals.
Ms. Sabra Dabbs has been added to the Board of Directors as Corporation Secretary and Executive Vice President of Global Investments of Conversion Solutions Holding Corp. Ms. Dabbs is active in global asset management, investments, finance, business development and development of corporate infrastructure. Her experience includes more than twenty years in management; nine years of finance, mergers, and acquisitions; and five years in international business development and negotiations at the highest levels. She has first hand experience in emerging markets in the Far East, Latin America, and the Eastern Europe. Ms. Dabbs' business career has included ownership of several companies within the United States and internationally, covering a spectrum of interests within Corporate Management, Financial Advisory, Project Funding and Information Technology.
Mr. Mitchell Sepaniak has over 25 years of experience at the Executive management level with WebMD, ADP, National Data Corporation, Ciba, and Bausch & Lomb. Most recently, he was the CEO of Weida Corporation.
"Mitchell brings to CSHC experience in creating strategies and managing multi-national companies, a rich leadership background in blue chip, mid-size and start up firms. His success in building companies, products, and brands, through organic and business development means will greatly enhance our success with each investment project," stated Sabra Dabbs, EVP.
"Ms. Dabbs and Mr. Sepaniak are a wonderful addition to our team. Their abilities to resolve issues in an expedient manner is nothing short of amazing," stated Rufus Paul Harris.
Fooled me with the misspelled words!!! "realeased"!
I think they used the rented ones out of their virtual office. It is right next to the shredding machine.
Well, when you move around a lot, why not recycle the boxes?
Now we know what Rufus was doing with all the time he WASN"T on Subpenny radio doing 8 hour marathon talks.
Well who ever is now working in that office now must be a fan of BOHOGIRL - that's her bunny avatar in the upper right corner!
Yeah, I saw it. I was laughing about the basher part. He was pumping as Dragon - with his dragon avatar and all. Had to go somewhere after being banned from here. What ever happened to BlueDiamonds??? I've lost his trail.
I bet I can figure out who LP is! I love these misspelled words!
Today, 12:33 PM #14450
LP640
HSM Newbie
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 71
Quote:
Originally Posted by IronGuillotine
Rufus had a dual meaning to the phrase, not just the shareholders... It was a fair warning to all...
right on my friend. shorters better start wearing belts around their waste. every move they make is getting predictable, so don't get caught naked.
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Originally Posted by LP640
that's the spirit!!! common people wake up!!! i just read that letter and it smells like poop. smells like tim miles. the bashers are getting restless again. muhaha i love it! good sign for us longs. buy! buy! buy! something is cooking is in dallas and it smells good. do you smell what the tut is cookin? let's go people. buy the crap out of it!!!
(I believe that's come on people!)
or selling to all his brazilionaire friends over on HSM.
HEY!!! I didn't even click the reply button before that post went bye bye! That makes me suspicious - is something going to happen here soon???
Well there is always people like you that show up - new signup just to give us the attention we like! Thanks for that!
BTW, is this you Fido? I saw you were asking if you had to give your email if you signed up for IHUB last might.
Oh BTW - we ain't bashing - it's called a discussion - unlike anything that occurs over on the cheerleading support group on HSM. No secret treehouses here. We tell it like it is. The HSMers read this board ALL the time for the real scoop - they know PHIL is full of it and only tells it HIS way.
Well, you do have to admit - there are plenty of TOOLS over in that HSM shed.
OK! FESS UP! which one of you bashers is goofing on the HSMers by posting as LP640??? I know it has to be one of you!
PUMP IT UP!!!!
YOU GOOF!!!! You had me going! Especially since IHUB/SI was sold to an English firm not so long ago...
Link please!
Well maybe that cult following is worth something after all. Bet Hemmi is happy - what did IHUB/SI sell for?
Wonder if the deal will be axed - if the SEC starts to investigate HSM as a pump and dump organization??? LOL!
TallRob is pulling my leg again with this post on HSM:
Originally Posted by TallRob
the basher brigade over on IBASH are in FULL FORCE right now...........that is awsome!...shows that the company must be making head way and the basher contracts have been renewed.They are scared....they are now digging up posts against the hard core longs again.tryingto find dirt.......everytime that happenssomething good is about to happen with the pps.
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Scared? Hardly.
Amused? Yes
Intrigued? yes
You know, I can't quite believe this was all an actual PLAN. I don't think the "players" that we know are genius enough to put something this big together. SNEAKY, yes. Smart enough, no. Perhaps scammers have a unique sense of smell and can sniff out other scams to be part of. Would someone like Rufus Paul Harris actually be handed over 9 - 15 BILLION dollars worth of bonds to "hypothecate"?
Fronthaul merged with Furia - maybe some answers are there with Furia.
<<Q. Did Meister use unregistered PIPE shares to cover the hedged short position? If yes, Who had them issued and delivered to the Deb holder?>>
Would that involve the 42 million shares that traded hands on the Berlin exchange that Rufus was yapping about at the DFW meeting?
I wouldn't rule anyone out at this point.
Oh there will be much of that - pointing fingers. You knew about that C/D notice from the Caracas group? I knew of the one from the Humanitarian Canady/Sakli Group, but not specifically the Caracas group. Rufus did say that the SEC had a document unbeknownst to him that was along the same lines as the c/d from Canady. and that one of 2 people inside the company had ratted him out.
The money laundering thing with Sabra sure makes for a better movie script!
Hey Dimension - here is another WAG about John Smith. Remember the person that announced he had "connected the dots" with CSHD and was going to announce it on air? He specifically said he had "connected the dots". And he never disclosed the information? The guy with the talk show in Washington D.C? LOL! Maybe it is Simon! or someone close to him.
August Toxic posts - appears Phil knows about this issue. also Bodi/MikeA gave a number to call to check to see if the loan was paid off - I don't know if anyone called to check it or not.
From: anniebonny 12/10/2006 2:48:24 PM
Read Replies (1) of 3848
Here are a number of posts from HSM back in August when the Toxic financing issue was being discussed - and a whole thread was deleted apparently that discussed it. Note that Bodi was telling all it was being dealt with....
Buschboy
Aug 16th, 2006, 02:05 AM
SB-2 for FURIA ORGANIZATION INC DE filed on 12/20/2005
(jump down to pg 7)
Risks Relating To Our Current Financing Arrangement
The continuously adjustable conversion price feature of our secured convertible notes could require us to issue a substantially grater number of shares, which will cause dilution to our existing stockholders.
Our obligation to issue shares upon conversion of our secured convertible notes is essentially limitless. The following is an example of the amount of shares of our common stock that are issuable, upon conversion of our secured convertible notes (excluding accrued interest), based on market prices 25%, 50% and 75% below the market price, as of December 15, 2005 of $0.20.
"Table" shows that if converted @ 55% of market price of 0.05, # of shares issuable are 90,909,091
WTF?
Is this a sample of the toxic financing that may be holding up the deal?------------------------------------------------------------------------
Buschboy
Aug 16th, 2006, 02:32 AM
Toxic merger case study:
http://www.downeybrand.com/publications/articles/040916_lawyersued.php
I can only hope Rufus and company was smart enough to prevent any toxic investing situation related to fronthaul. :(------------------------------------------------------------------------
Valis
Aug 16th, 2006, 02:43 AM
Did you even listen to the last interview? I suggest you do before making posts like this. Particularly the end when he talks about clearing up convertible debts.
braveheart
Aug 16th, 2006, 08:13 AM
the toxic investor:
it looks to me as though he has been bleeding his shares into the market a bit at a time and someone has been there to buy them from him.
....if this is true CSHD is being diluted - Rufus & co. did not buy up all the float as they thought, but they are now:
by keeping the stock from tanking. "Dont let anyone talk you into selling", sound familiar?
As long as the longs hold the stock cant tank because they (who ever they is) can then support the pps when it hits the buy trigger. If everyone bails out of panic they wont buy because the shear number of shares are too large to buy. So it will tank and then they will come in afterwards and start the buying again to raise the pps.
Ever wonder how in the world the stocklemon reports could not kill the stock? Ever wonder whose behind them?
Thank you for this info. This should be on everyone's mind for this morning....
I don't know where phil got all this info, but we have all noticed regular buys going in that appear to be supporting the pps, the story fits that at least, and also the amazing recovery from the normal death knell of stocklemon.
This may also go some way to explain the trading that went on while we were all still waiting for our FHAL to convert...
It also fits with some of Kaps DD on FURIA convertibles.... i think Kap estimated 100mil dilution, i need to check back on that....
If the current delay is due to countering the toxic investor diluting the stock, i hope it won't be much longer 'til it's over (an estimate would be helpful),
and i hope it's not enough to damage the new pps (but i think this was discussed in relation to Kaps earlier estimate that would pull
book value down to under $4...).------------------------------------------------------------------------
phil
Aug 16th, 2006, 09:02 AM
quote from Kapone
<<While all of this toxic financing stuff is coming out only now, I think a more important question to ask is WHY would this person or person(s) be selling their shares now, instead of later when they potentially could make way more money, assuming Rufus is doing everything that he says he's doing. Nothing is forcing them to sell.>>
You know better than that. They can only convert at market price. If it converts at .05 they get 90 million shares. If they convert at $15 they get zilch. The bleeding into the market is only my assumption based on what I have been seeing, I do not know if they have converted or not. The agreement called for the investor to file within 30 days of converting, and as far as I can tell there has been no filing done showing them converting the debenture into shares.
bodi claimed and gave a phone number to verify that loan was paid back. So it is still unclear just how much of a risk there actually is.------------------------------------------------------------------------
braveheart
Aug 16th, 2006, 09:17 AM
Quote from Legalnoob:
<<ugh, toxic financing; I like the short squeeze hypothesis better>>
yes, but we have not seen a 'death spiral' have we?
longs need to hold to see this through.... PR would be very useful here IMHO------------------------------------------------------------------------
braveheart
Aug 16th, 2006, 09:21 AM
Quote from Phil:
<<And now you know why such a HUGE bashing effort has taken place.>>
i think i finally have put all the pieces together! :Thumbsup:
indeed, it has been MASSIVE attempt - never seen anything like it, and never seen it fail so spectacularly.
Rufus and co. actively propping up pps makes sense to stem the dilution and
keep CSHD on course for a high pps post-reset
i believe this is going to work out just fine ;)
GLTA------------------------------------------------------------------------
legalnoob
Aug 16th, 2006, 09:22 AM
Man I hope we are right. Otherwise it is going to get really ugly in here.:(------------------------------------------------------------------------
Aug 16th, 2006, 10:43 PM
clarkeysmalls
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 451
Kap, did you ever call the number to see if the pipes had been canceled? Bodi posted an address/phone number for all to see. Any follow up? Bodi seemed very confident in what he found out, straight from the horses mouth.
Aug 16th, 2006, 10:45 PM
kapone
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Lost in Space..
Posts: 6,003
Quote:
Originally Posted by phil
<<The 8-k from 12/09/2005, in it is the toxic investor. Read the deal made and it's easy to see why they are fighting to keep this down. Supposedly these are being dealt with ad are supposed to be getting resolved now.>>
I already know about that Phil. I have known about that for DAYS now. My question was what was that whole "2nd firm in the country stuff"???
And quite frankly, I find it hard to believe that a company will decide to merge with another company without knowing what they are getting into. This is not like you and me buying some stock in a company. In a merger, ALL books and previous records are scrutinized to the T. If you are asking me to believe that Rufus and Co. did not know about these PIPEs before, I don't. That would make Rufus an amateur, and I don't think he is.
Aug 16th, 2006, 11:49 PM #151
kapone
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Lost in Space..
Posts: 7,225
Quote:
Originally Posted by clarkeysmalls
Kap, did you ever call the number to see if the pipes had been canceled? Bodi posted an address/phone number for all to see. Any follow up? Bodi seemed very confident in what he found out, straight from the horses mouth.
No I did not. Honestly speaking, even if they told me they had been cancelled, I wouldn't believe them. Either they are lying or just not aware of the issue. I'm not being a hardhead about this guys, it's not like I'm trying to put a stake in the ground to say, "I'm right". No, those PIPE's were given out in exchange for money. The people who lent the money want payback. There's no way they could have been cancelled.
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Aug 16th, 2006, 11:52 PM #158
phil
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 10,096
Quote:
Originally Posted by kapone
<<I already know about that Phil. I have known about that for DAYS now. My question was what was that whole "2nd firm in the country stuff"???
And quite frankly, I find it hard to believe that a company will decide to merge with another company without knowing what they are getting into. This is not like you and me buying some stock in a company. In a merger, ALL books and previous records are scrutinized to the T. If you are asking me to believe that Rufus and Co. did not know about these PIPEs before, I don't. That would make Rufus an amateur, and I don't think he is.>>
I never suggested they didnt know, I mean cripes it's spelled out right there in the 8k. So yes they had to have known, and this is supposedly the last hurdle they have to overcome. My bat hairs now senses that is coming to or has come to a resolution.
The 2nd in the country statement came from one of the real longs a P.I. holder. The company is known as the 2nd worst company for toxic financing in the country. You are truly selling your soul to the devil with those guys. The name of the number one was also given but I forget and it was in the vapor thread
(Interesting - it appears that someone deleted a whole thread about discussions involving Toxic financing)
stersuhr
Aug 16th, 2006, 10:49 PM
<<I read 90% of the old thread unfortunatly. I understand the mm's covering theory but not the new theory.
stersuhr, you need to read the old (deleted?) thread. the price going down seems t o be due to MM manipulation to cover, they have 16 mil to cover! the toxic dilution may or may not be an issue right now, we don't know for sure, but a confirmed call to the TA would appear to argue against dilution at this point..>>
i made a post early in the last thread that explained the toxic financing situation but sadly it is gone now....------------------------------------------------------------------------
braveheart
Aug 16th, 2006, 10:54 PM
<<I read 90% of the old thread unfortunatly. I understand the mm's covering theory but not the new theory.
you missed my 1% then :LOL: >>
look, FURIA had convertibles that were bought by an investor, the investor has the option to claim these whenever they want, and the amount of shares they can claim depends on the market price, the lower the price, the more sharesthey can claim. that is basically it. it is 'death spiral' financing. look it up in WIKIPEDIA. Rufus et al should want to stop this dilution from getting out of control to stop hurting their new pps by buying whwnever the toxic fiunacner is selling, but it seems MMs needing to cover is screwing up this objective so far....------------------------------------------------------------------------
kapone
Aug 16th, 2006, 11:11 PM
no. convertibles. shares an investor bought but can claim at any time. under the agreement that the amount of shares they can claim depends on market price, the lower the price, the more shares they are eligible to claim, so they claim their shares, sell them into the market, causing a drop in pps, and diluting, but until now we have been propped up, but MMs are now seriously in need to cover and are doing so in a shameless fashion.
all IMHO
if anyone has reason to disagree with this please let me
PS: i had a good post on the toxic situation on the lsat thread.
look, the basic idea is , RUfus et al would want to prop up the pps and stop the price going lower to prevent more dilution, which could hurt the reset pps
Braveheart, if I made the effort, I could extract all the relevant sections from the old Furia 8Ks, and post them here. The number of shares that the convertibles convert to is related to PPS, but also to revenue. And right now FHAL/CSHD has no revenues. Hence the fear that a large number of shares might get issued and dilute the float. I pointed this out a long time back when I started the whole PIPEs discussion.
The bottomline is, potentially, almost 90M shares could/already have been converted into common stock. I have no idea if some/all of them have been sold into the run or not, but I'd think a fair number have already been sold.
I stand by my suspicion that Rufus and Co knew about these PIPEs all along and may have been manipulating them for personal gains after buying them from the AJW group. There's a reason they picked FHAL as the "shell", and the amazon deal had nothing to do with it.------------------------------------------------------------------------
braveheart
Aug 16th, 2006, 11:12 PM
<<Then that theory would all be well and good... except for the minor fact that the sells to buys was just about 1 to 1 so I guess that brings us back to the dirty rotten MM's.>>
exactly, there has to have been massive manipulation today. but, this does not exclude the possibility of continued toxic financing... bodi posted on the last theread that this may not be the case, and the TA has confirmed the new OS as 97 mil, less than FURIAs 111mil, which also argues against dilution.... the fact is, no-one really knows what is going on here apart from Mr. Harris, Mr Stanley and colleagues.. our fate is in there hands, do they have the winning hand ????------------------------------------------------------------------------
phil
Aug 16th, 2006, 11:27 PM
Braveheart, if I made the effort, I could extract all the relevant sections from the old Furia 8Ks, and post them here. The number of shares that the convertibles convert to is related to PPS, but also to revenue. And right now FHAL/CSHD has no revenues. Hence the fear that a large number of shares might get issued and dilute the float. I pointed this out a long time back when I started the whole PIPEs discussion.
The bottomline is, potentially, almost 90M shares could/already have been converted into common stock. I have no idea if some/all of them have been sold into the run or not, but I'd think a fair number have already been sold.
I stand by my suspicion that Rufus and Co knew about these PIPEs all along and may have been manipulating them for personal gains after buying them from the AJW group. There's a reason they picked FHAL as the "shell", and the amazon deal had nothing to do with it.
I wasnt going to post again tonight after we really did fall in the twilight zone, but I cant resist that.
You are going to need something to substantiate that as happening or drop the accusations. I dont have an issue with there being a toxic investment, and as I understand it the firm is the 2nd in the country for doing that kind of deal. But to accuse rufus of buying them and using them to dilute into the rally for personal gains is simply going beyond where you should without substantiation.
The fact that the T/A has stated the shares include both fhal and cvsu shares and is less than the actual number in the 8-k kills your accusation. Claiming to not trust the T/A is really stretching the imagination in order to try and buy some credibility for it.------------------------------------------------------------------------
phil
Aug 16th, 2006, 11:41 PM
The 8-k from 12/09/2005, in it is the toxic investor. Read the deal made and it's easy to see why they are fighting to keep this down. Supposedly these are being dealt with ad are supposed to be getting resolved now.------------------------------------------------------------------------
LOL!!!
I am not familiar with all the names on that list of 7 - perhaps they are paltalk aliases?
Maybe I'll work with the ones I don't know.
Kplatt,Kccman,Estella4,Brazilianrosewood,Alpinsilv er, Xl8trs
I know of KevinPlatt, Brazilianrosewood, alpinesilver and Xl8trs.
Are you referring to this filing? Also there were a number of posts on hsm that discussed it being paid off "in a month".
RW 1 v038799_rw.htm
The Furia Organization, Inc.
2233 Ridge Road, Suite 102
Rockwell, Texas 75087
Telephone: (972) 722-9999
Facsimile: (972) 722-9998
March 23, 2006
United States Securities and Exchange Commission
450 Fifth Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20549
Re:
The Furia Organization, Inc. (the “Company”)
Withdrawal of Registration Statement on Form SB-2
(SEC File No. 333-130532)
Ladies and Gentlemen:
In accordance with Rule 477 of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended (the “Act”), this letter shall serve as our application to withdraw the aforementioned Registration Statement. The Registration Statement was filed pursuant to a Registration Rights Agreement between the Company and the selling shareholders listed in the Registration Statement (the “Selling Shareholders”). The Company intends on redeeming the convertible notes, issued to the Selling Shareholders and therefore, there is no need to register the shares underlying the convertible notes. The Company further advises the Commission that no shares of common stock sought to be registered pursuant to the Registration Statement have been sold or offered.
The Company may undertake a subsequent private offering in reliance of Rule 155(c) of the Act.
If you need anything further, please feel free to contact the undersigned.
Very truly yours,
/s/ Michael Alexander
Michael Alexander
President / CEO
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/757563/000114420406011870/v038799_rw.htm