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It is probably helping him, negativity is strategy to get more $FLES shares CHEAP, I don't play like this I believe it lacks Integrity, but that's what the stock market is, gambling to different degrees, we're all at a poker table, different strategies, the players with the strategies who are able to buy at wholesale prices win, those who buy retail prices usually loose.... $FLES $$$$$$$$$ cheers
Chris, I think is just burying his head in the sand/his work on the company, a lot of start ups, Apple, Amazon etc, when they start those guys are just focused on one thing, building the company, and when other issues, screw ups occur, arise outside their brain space/area of expertise they sort of can't handle them properly, leaving it to these other supposed experts, not seeing some of the rotten apples on the trees.
Chris I don't believe is a liar. And anyone can see 4Less is legit, just go on Ebay look at sales etc. or their websites. The problem is how he's unable to handle this quickly and properly, and what is Tim doing? This is why Chris needs to hire competent other people to handle these things, where he can focus on what he's doing, just building the business.
This is an AMAZING OPPORTUNITY, but infortunately also for the Market Makers, Manipulative Traders, possible Insiders (I wouldn't doubt on Tim's side) hopefully the storm will pass soon and we can get back down to business, great to buy shares this cheap, but definitely a stain on the stocks history.... But no worries $FLES WILL BE BACK OVER A BUCK SOON! $FLES $$$$$$$$$$$$ cheers
Accounting firm is still using pencils & paper & the guy doing it is 90 years old and takes a nap ever hour, and needed a siesta all last week.... LOL
One thing, I think everyone can definitely agree on, even though I see this as a TREMENDOUS BUYING OPPORTUNITY. If I was the 4 Less Corp. I would definitely FIRE THE ACCOUNTING FIRM immediately after the 10K or next financials were filed, I mean a minor delay possibly acceptable, because of all the changes, merger, reverse split, name change, etc... but so many weeks beyond INCOMPETENT literally like they only had one idiot doing the accounting, who possibly went on vacation, that is ridiculous! I think every shareholder for 4Less longer term reputation thinks this accounting firm should be fired! LOL cheers $FLES $$$$$$$$$$$
Insider trading? Possibly, Chris after talking to him, I believe is a straight shooter, just a focused left brain type of guy working hard building the company, without the knowledge of accounting or Investor Relations, but Tim I think is the bad apple in the company, as Medcareers before was a pump and dump which $FLES bought just to get on the OTC quickly. I'm averaging now just below .30 and completely believe $FLES is an AMAZING opportunity right now, it will shoot back up quickly over $1 when the fins come out.
But the share volume was excessively high today, Market Makers are allowed to manipulate the markets and run all sorts of shenanigans like selling between themselves to drive the price down and increase volume and make it look like higher dilution.
But it wouldn't put it past Tim if he family or buddies are doing some insider trading. If it is, I agree shareholders should alert the SEC. $FLES is no longer a sub-penny stock and when there are large amounts of capital involved they will look into things. If there is any insider trading it is a serious crime.
That being said, hopefully Chris dumps Tim soon, if possible, gets someone good to handle Investor Relations and things become clear in the 10K soon with no more future delays, so $FLES can rocket to $1 and then up towards the $20s... cheers $FLES $$$$$$$$$$$
Yeah but 4Less is a valid company, you don't need to believe anyone on Ihub just look at their increasing sales on Ebay and websites, yes Medcareers before was a Pump & Dump, 4Less just bought them and did a name change, a quicker way to get listed on the the OTC, and hopefully soon Nasdaq.... $FLES $$$$$$$$$ cheers
Welcome to the OTC.....
Market Makers also sell the same shares back and forth between themselves to lower the share price, increase volume massively with the appearance of major volume/dilution. Manipulative traders sometimes do this also. One of the oldest tricks in the book.
I'm not saying there isn't some dilution, probably around 3 million shares which I have always said, from convertibles probably, but that's super small, and $FLES with it's major exponentially growing earnings will rocket back tho over $1+ super quick.... cheers
BE POSITIVE NOTHING HAS CHANGED except the FALSELY SPECULATIVE TEMPORARY FEAR FEST with some traders.
$FLES said they would be late, they are late, we hit close to these lows last week, and yes if the the short term fear continues the share price may fall further, Market Makers and manipulators taking great advantage of the situation. The Market Makers are definitely dancing right now!
But it is a great advantage for those who can BUY BUY BUY. AMAZING OPPORTUNITY.
Yes I feel some compassion for those that were novice/foolish, who put most of their eggs in one basket, especially an OTC stock. But hey that's GREED. The stock market is all a GAMBLE, FOR EVERY WINNER THERE IS A LOSER. That is how the stock markets work. There really should be a disclaimer people check off when they buy stocks, especially OTC stocks, saying you may loose all your money.
And if one needs money tomorrow or next week, they definitely should not be trading in the stock market, stocks are really not even investing they are all gambles to some degree. It's like a poker table, the people that win are the best players, they get the money, the others loose their money. Such is the stock market.
But that being said $FLES still is a very profitable super undervalued company even if there is some dilution. I say less the double 3 million shares, which is still super tiny share float, compared to most other companies. It will be back over $1+ very soon!
Yes management has blundered this accounting delay, they could have at least provided some more official updates, but they are a new company, hopefully they learn from this, I'm sure they have received a ton of negative comments from shareholders. LOL
But those who will be able to HOLD, and BUY more, average down at these riduculously low prices, will WIN BIG! just some patience $FLES $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ cheers
PARTY BUY TIME "DOLLARS for pennies" $FLES cheers $$$$$$$
Companies can't legally disclose certain information to certain parties before an official financial filing. It has nothing to do with honesty, Chris is a straight shooter and follows the rules, everything that needs to be disclosed in the 10K will be disclosed, including any dilution. Geez novice non-sensical questions from novice investors. LOL
Now do I believe there is some dilution personally? Yes possibly from some conversions, but I believe the share float will still be definitely under 3 million, less then double, still really small. Where even at this price $FLES is grossly undervalued at around a million market cap (can't buy a good house for that here) for a company with $7-8 million+ revenue which is exponentially growing.... cheers
I'm not saying $VTNL is at all good, and I've bought some of these non-sensical 0.0001 cent stocks, small amounts after making huge 5-10+K gains on Nasdaq stocks, just for fun pure OTC gambles, millions of shares LOL, these 0.0001 stocks that don't trade really, you can't even use technical analysis/charts, but sometimes some of these OTCs have made 100s or 1000s+ percent which have paid for all the others 10 fold in an instant, $VTNL has had no trading today on Level 2, zero buyers, but lots of sellers trying to sell, it does appear grimm, I pop in and check once in awhile...
But surprisingly VTNL is still up to date on the OTC, and there maybe a possible buyout just for the ticker symbol and then later a name change like a few other OTCs which I have bought previously, a quick way to get listed on the OTC...
Or possibly something else may happen, another announcement when the RS happens? Maybe they will get involved in the human CBD market and just do a name change, they do have the structure or something else? Or maybe just to zero, but I don't think so, they still have something and have made that extra effort and cost to stay current on the OTC...
Will be interesting to see soon, seems like this RS maybe happening for a reason, either way it's good, as so far this stock has been dormant for awhile, and impossible to trade and after the Reverse Split at least the share float will become small, hopefully they follow through and we'll start seeing some action, $VTNL just a fun interesting gamble, definitely do your own DUE DILLIGENCE if buying $VTNL and if so I'd wait till after the split... cheers
I shared some of my phone conversation with Chris, in a previous post, but he sounds like a completely straight shooter, nice person, genuine, I've always been good at getting a sense of people when actually talking to them, (I know when people are full full of sh*t and Chris definitely is not) he sounded sincerely frustrated and busy, he said he's been working 24/7 and the biggest thing was that they completed getting this complicated automated system in place, so order fulfillment & delivery happen quick, and like he's obviously not an accountant, where he's only focused on the business growth side, but said because they were the largest client of this accounting firm that he could possibly try and "strong arm" them to do it more quick but that it was more important that everything needed to be done correctly, adjustments, etc. like he didn't really want to start getting into that (or wasting time on that), it was already late, so when it's done, it's done type of deal.
He said also that Tim was just a small one man operation, that 4Less is a big company, but the way he said it was like there may have been accounting issues on Tim's side (Medcareers was just mainly a pump & dump), an OTC symbol for 4Less to get listed quick, I don't think he's very impressed with Tim's side of the equation, think it has to do with the delay, also when I mentioned share price is low, investors are concerned, is when he mentioned how they have been really growing every month and sales are really increasing but sort of like there's nothing he can do about the temporary share price, they aren't manipulating it, like he's just focused on the business, sort of like a left brain/confident engineer type of attitude.
I'm also reading between the lines. But let's just say after talking to Chris, I felt complete ease, and immediately wanted to buy more shares, on this opportunity, because 4Less I believe 100%, is the real deal and that when everything has been done properly and the financials come out investors who held through this temporary storm will be happy. cheers
Exactly REAL COMPANIES like $FLES focus number one on growing and MAKING MONEY from their real business, selling their goods and increasing their sales exponentially not making money from temporary share dollar value, or concerned about short term investors wanting to flip and make a quick buck and that in the short term because there are Market Makers, manipulating traders, etc.
$FLES is a REAL BUSINESS not some hype penny stock, concerned with pumping their investors. I think many novice traders here just want the pump and are used to companies like that in their portfolios, not an actual REAL COMPANY like $FLES which has major exponentially positive cash flow from REAL SALES, where the true stock price will be reflected eventually....
Hey, we're all here obviously for profit from our shares, but this is no pump and dump like Medcareers was which Tim was running, $FLES, where Chris is working 24/7 is the real deal, a real business which is really growing. Exactly why $FLES is such an AMAZING deal RIGHT NOW at such a ridiculous low price! $$$$$$$ cheers
I agree, it's definitely frustrating for many investors, it's hard to see the long term, or how much of a GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY this is, to buy more at these joke of a low prices, and the company definitely could have handled things better, especially on the PR, Investor Relations end.
But there is no doubt $4Less is a solid company, just look at sales on Ebay, their websites, etc. these kits and parts they have is a popular rapidly growing niche, and their custom websites, quick order fulfillment, naming for the websites, prices etc. everything brilliant.
I chalk these short term mistakes as they are a new publicly traded company. Tim from before is quite irrelevant, it's Chris who is really growing 4Less exponentially......
Hang in their! Have Faith! $FLES Dollars for pennies right now until all the fins are in order! $FLES $$$$$$$$$$$ cheers
OK, you go girl! LOL $FLES $$$$$$$ cheers
Yes children possible dilution up to 3 million shares as I mentioned many times before (still super tiny), which is approx. double, right now $FLES has a market cap current worth @ $515 thousand, cheaper then a tool shed LOL at double the shares (3 million) just places them over a million current market cap worth, which is a complete JOKE,
Can't even buy a decent house here for that, with revenues of at least $7-8 million possibly more, growing exponentially, probably over $14 million once 2019 completes, with a break even of around $5-6 million, but OMG the accounting is late, hmmm they had a merger, reverse split, name change, accounting firm change, and Tim's small 1 man show probably wasn't in order, plus possibly pre-scheduled vacation time for accountants, etc, etc. OMG the sky is falling....
But hey "Are we there yet?" Hey "Are we there yet?" Hey "Are we there yet?" Hey "Why aren't we there yet??".... LOL geezzzz the most NO-BRAINER INVESTMENT EVER! $FLES $$$$$$$$$$$$ cheers
"Are we there yet?" "Why aren't we there yet?" LOL There has been communication before to any who have made a sincere effort, I talked to Chris the other week.
If you don't understand by this time why there is no reason to worry, why this is an unbelievable OPPORTUNITY, or why the company hasn't responded to all the negativity and insults, to short term traders who live in the "instant gratification" era of "I want it now!"
And ask constant repetitive gibberish questions and non-sensical constant drama speculation" then there is no use in explaining... LOL
Hey I'm happy if the price goes down more, bring it to .10!$
I just keep loading more, but it seems the Market Makers want to keep around .20, there are also psychological limits of possibly bringing $FLES to low, and then when fins comes out and 4Less shoots almost instantly over a $1 again..... LOL $FLES $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ cheers
Unless u own loan shark Vinny next week, LOL u have nothing to worry about, anything under $2 dollars is a crazy steal, sure everyone wants the cheapest price possible and most amount of shares, and I don't think any of us thought the fins would be so delayed, and if you can average down and get more shares fantastic, so far I've averaged down below .30, still at a temporary minor loss, but even over a dollar if you have the patience and time you'll make a good profit on $FLES, you'll never get these types of eventual crazy high percentage returns on a stock like Amazon, right now $FLES's price is a complete joke just one MASSIVE OPPORTUNITY! don't worry about the chatter or as the other poster said; the impatient kids in the car, constantly saying "Are we there yet?" "Why aren't we there yet?" LOL $FLES "DOLLARS for pennies!!!!" $$$$$$$$$$$ cheers
A BUYOUT @ $20 would be PERFECT! hey if the share float is doubled 3 million (still super small) and looks like revenues have been growing exponentially, let's say $14-$20 million for 2019 if these last ones are $7-$8 million possibly more, then a $60 million valuation on $FLES @ $20pps isn't unreasonable....
Either way @ just $1 pps I could make a really good profit, (which I will hold, not sell) but $FLES is a complete no-brainer investment, the price right now really is a joke, an AMAZING opportunity, just a bit of patience... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $FLES cheers
Someone could make a great movie, if one could take snapshots of several people's lives involved in a stock like $FLES and put it together; "Ihub The Movie" LOL, different investors, traders, manipulators, market makers, the people in the company, etc. from all over the US and the world, the fear, the greed, the optimism, the impatience, all the nicknames, etc..... LOL $FLES $$$$$$$$$$$$ cheers
LOL Exactly what I was thinking, kids in a car on a road trip, "Are we there yet?" Soooo funny! I just keep accumulating everyday, dollar cost averaging, at these; "DOLLARS for pennies" prices, let the kids do what they do... LOL $FLES $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ cheers
Alot I haven't flipped & don't plan too. Holding this one, $FLES long term. Been buying 4-10K (depending on the day) in shares everyday for a while, averaging down and also dollar cost averaging during the day, not buying all at once. I believe eventually long term, it will even hit the $20s+...
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YUP definitely! Just some patience, a waiting game until the 10K and the BOOM time! I just keep taking advantage of these great prices, buying some everyday. $FLES $$$$$$$$$$ cheers
One thing is for certain, every day I've been able to buy more of these shares 4 Less... LOL
But I guestimate that the share float is no more then double, approximately 3 million, (still very small) and if the company had 7-8 million revenue it will immediately go back to $1+ which will be a super nice gain at these prices.
I'm averaging down every day, and I'm now below .30, and I believe that with $FLES's exponential sales grow and expansion they could hit $5.00+ in the near future, look how easy they hit $2.00+ before just on a little speculation....
It is turbulence right now, and can be nerve wrecking with all the manuplation currently taking advantage of the fear speculation to get shares cheap, especially for those who bought high and have not been able to average down.
But some patience and I'm certain $FLES will be a very rewarding investment very soon! Hold STRONG, keep the FAITH & BUY BUY BUY if possible! $FLES $$$$$$$$$ cheers
BUY $FLES *DOLLARS FOR PENNIES SALE* Fins this week hopefully, then $FLES will definitely rocket! The manipulation of this stock is fascinating watching, but whatever one may think some dilution or not $FLES is still EXTREMELY undervalued! AWESOME prices... $$$$$$$$$$$ $FLES cheers
GO $FLES $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ cheers
Hopefully next week the fins get completed & then we get the real PARTY started! $$$$$$$$$$ $FLES
LOVE the possible potential of $TTCM! $$$$$ AWESOME TECH cheers
$SIGN Keep stacking+patience $1000+ eventually $$$$ cheers
Soon their shock absorbers kit selling on Ebay will be worth more then the market cap of the company according to these ridiculous Market Makers LOL.... $FLES GOLD for pennies right now BUY BUY BUY $$$$$$$$$ $FLES cheers
YUP DEFINITELY TruthFairy! cheers
Exactly as I said, MM's dropped the price right @ close your order not filled @.18 since morning, as I mentioned in previous posts this is completely cordinated, Market Makers attacks taking advantage of the negative market sentiment selling between each other or filling a few low orders along with other manipulating traders also taking advantage driving the fear.
Dropping the price now right before close below .20 slowly buying as much stock at wholesale prices filling their warehouses, where many foolish sellers who are panic selling and not buying are getting fleeced after when news comes out they will jack it high and sell back at retail prices, so typical... LOL
BUY $FLES as the Market Makers continue to buy and sell when they sell.... $FLES GOLD for pennies.... 4Less $$$$$$$$$$$ cheers
OS not 5 mil ridiculous non-sense, Exactly as my last post Market Makers selling between themselves making it look like more dilution and manipulative traders possibly they will tank $FLES even further before close, using fear & panic, soon maybe $FLES will be worth only a 100K the price of a car, LOL yet their business would sell in a second at $5 million plus... sadly many investors fall for and get fleeced by these tactics, just BUY BUY BUY $FLES $$$$$$$$$$$$$ cheers
What dilution? Sure there may be some, like I said many times even if the share float is double 3 million, @.20 would value the company at 600k less then the price of a tool shed here, this business would easily sell for 5+ million on the internet in a second.
Most of the volume every day which is still low just a couple hundred thousand shares at most are shares being sold back and forth by Market Makers trying to lower the price, just manipulation to make the price appear low and as if there is dilution from everday volume, to cause more panic and selling while Market Makers are accumlating themselves, stocking their warehouse full of $FLES at wholesale prices.
And when news changes they will fleece everyone selling high at retail prices... buy when the insiders buy, buy and sell when they sell, the MM's have already slowly accumulated alot at these levels since around .60 $FLES GOLD for pennies right now *SUPER FIRE SALE*... cheers
Tim is irrelevant why do people keep mentioning Tim? He was just a small 1 man operation, 4Less just used Medcareers to quickly get on the OTC and then change name.
Chris I honestly believe, (after actually talking on the phone with him) thought that the financials would come out when they were meant to, but I believe the screw ups with accounting are on Tim's side of the equation, Chris is just really busy, focused 24/7 on building the business, he's not an accountant, yes I believe Tim may possibly be dishonest, why I think Chris is not very impressed with Tim and why they are making sure everything is correct.
I wonder how long Tim will be with 4Less after this major bungle, 4Less is a big profitable, exponentially growing company, right now Gold for copper prices.
But I wish people would stop mentioning Tim he was Medcareers and irrelevant and I doubt he has much of a future with this AMAZING COMPANY $FLES $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ cheers
Big money does not Flip all at once and really just Market Makers mainly involved right now, not big Institutional Investors and the $FLES share float is very small, the insiders are actually buying and just trading amongst themselves to bring the price down and shake out weak handed investors, it's the smaller manipulating traders who post negative posts who are flipping or trying to flip.... $FLES GOLD for copper prices! $$$$$$$$$$ cheers
Chris is not a liar, have you actually talked to him on the phone, I did. And I've always had a good sense regarding people, Chris is a straight shooter he is as frustrated with this delay as anyone, and I don't believe he is too impressed with Tim, who was just a 1 man operation which Chris used the merger to get on the OTC quick, 4Less is a big company growing exponentially with definite aims to be on Nasdaq... $FLES GOLD at copper prices right now WOW!!!! $$$$$$$$$$$$$ cheers
Geeez seriously what does that even mean "dump shares" if there is some dilution let's say to 3 million shares, which is double as I said before that would value $FLES at only 600K @.20 a share, I can't buy a tool shed here for that, LOL $FLES is worth easily 10 times that and could be sold as a business in a second on the Internet for $5 million+, it's a complete no-brainer investment, why I continue to average down, continuing to buy $FLES GOLD at copper prices! AWESOME OPPORTUNITY, LOVE IT! $FLES $$$$$$$$$$ cheers
Some guy pops out of no where and says that the accountant went on vacation and everyone panics more, some saying their life is over, because the share price is temporarly down, big deal the accounting got delayed several weeks after major changes, a reverse split, merger, change of accountants, all of a sudden everyone is lead to believe by manipulative traders/posters/MMs that the company is totally incompetent and that the sky is falling, a business $FLES that has exponentially increasing revenues gets driven down to .20 a value of $600000 if there was dilution to 3 million shares, still a tiny float, I couldn't buy a house here for that. let alone a tool shed, LOL unbelievable how so many are so easily fooled and fleeced, and some people ask why I continue to buy, LOL geez a company that I could easily sell on the Internet for $5 million+ in a second an amazing business with an amazing business model, all set up valued as low as 600K, DUHHH LOL the most no-brainer investment of 2019 $FLES $$$$$$$$$$$$ cheers