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First, thanks for the court information.
As to the future legal battles I take it as positive as I always see the positive side, even if impossible.
The 16 million legal bill is fully understandable and the delay tactics also. This proves the 'powers' (infringing companies) know full well what will happen if they lose in the appeal. So they are using all weapons available.
Of course they still may prevail as maybe GERS goes under before the end (worse case scenerio) OR by all the stalling and mounting costs being accrued, and the companies lose to GERS... (best case scenerio)
The 16 million dollar legal bill will be pocket change compared to what they'll have to pay.
Agreed.
All this talk of fish had made me hungry for... chicken!
In refreeance to confidentiality an such, it is not uncommon for a company to file an SEC filing showing that the filing is confidential. Usually bio companieds developing a new drug file such filings.
For DNR&G I suspect that things areindeed occurring behind the 'scenes'. Are those things good or bad? Probably both. Maybe they had some handshake deals fall apart or just made a handshake deal? Nobody but the company and those behind the scenes know exactly whats going on.
At this point, I would not mind the pps dropping to .0001 as I'd buy some more. Currently it is almost impossible to make any large purchases at .0002 and at .0003 a person can buy at least a million shares and no one is buying large blocks at .0004
If anyone reading this has millions and millions of DNRG why not sell them to me at .0001? I mean what do ya got to lose? It's only money. Come on, roll those dice. Take your loss and sell at .0001. I'm feeling greedy.
Monday, Tuesday, Wed, Thur, Fri... Followed by a weekend and then another 'rinse and repeat'. But one day between now and the end of the world, BTZO will have some kind of news. Will it be good or bad? KK knows and that's about all who does at the moment.
I love fish. They are tasty. Now if DNRG goes to .01 I'll have over $120,000.00 worth of DNRG stock, and that's enough to buy a lot of fish and the boat to catch them.
IF the stock price goes to 1.00 I'll have enough to buy an aquarium large enough to have those tunnels people can walk through and watch the whales I'd stock it with.
Go DNRG!
for entertainment purposes only pertaining to the post and DNRG rubicon.
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"Whatcha doing Pete?"
"I'm working on a fuel cell I bought at auction."
"Who made it?"
"Don't know. Says, 'Rubicon' on the side. Inside I found some triple A batteries..."
ZAP!
"Crap! What did you do?"
"I turned a switch from the OFF position to the ON position."
(The machine hummed to life and after hooking up the whole house's electrical lines the machine soon back-fed the grid and powered the whole block)
"Man. Pete. That is one cool machine. Wonder who made it. Did you look on the bottom."
"No. Here help me turn it over."
"Hey. Says' 'Made in China' Dominovas Energy'"
"Cool."
(I'm invested heavy in this company and thus can at least derive some fun writing about it in a harmless way)
Last June the CEO put out a letter for shareholders and it's been quiet since. It now is April. I wonder, will any news come out in the next couple of months? And if no news will the CEO write an updated letter to shareholders? And if he writes one what can he say since there has been no news or SEC filings.
Interesting. But the real question is, do I buy more at .0001? (if the price goes to .0001)
Must say though, this DNRG is sure a quiet one and the trading range of the stock very consistent.
Charles Schwab is better than Scottrade in the fact the cost per trade is lower and in some other subtle ways. However, I did buy some BTZO to blend with the GERS holdings and I noticed I could only buy 999,999 shares at once where scottrade would let you place whatever number of shares you wanted. So, in two trades I own 2 shares less than 2mil of a pure lottery play in BTZO
And, since I still have some weird belief that GERS will treat me better than the last 80 r/s (a bit exaggerated true but close) I bought some more GERS today. Yippee! And my commission cost with Schwab was much less than when I dealt with scottrade.
Still thinking that GERS will actually have some real activity. Hopefully the kind where the price goes up nicely!
I scored dumpster diving and reaped a huge windfall selling aluminum beer cans. Around here the temps are getting warm and beer consumption is increasing; Keystone Light being the beverage of choice...Lots of cans!
So, should I invest it in BTZO or more GERS? Or maybe I should look for another stock. Bought some stock in a 3D printing company and it is boring, boring, boring.
Thinking BTZO might be a good play for a 100% like it did for those who sold at the last huge volume .0002 day.
I would be able to buy 8million shares of BTZO @ .0001 or increase my meager holdings in GERS but don't want to pay more than .04
I know, maybe put a good-till-canceled order on GERS for .03! It might fill or it might not?
And a big, 'thank you' for all those beer drinkers out there. And the great thing about mining dumpsters for metal is that you don't have to follow any environmental regs or apply for government permits!
exactly. my point of the post is that a person can own shares until the company does multiple r/s and all those potential long-term capital gains are zero as zero plus zero equal zero... unless, it's government math and then zero money in the treasury equals 27 trillion to spend on studying the sex habits of shrimp, military weapons for Uganda, government peanut butter, and all the other great stuff a country can do with no money.
go GERS! Whoo Hoo! (thud)
You Have the answers to a lot, so a question. I take by inference that DNRG is having problems in South Africa and the Congo because it has no working product and no money and everyone else does...
So, if you hypothetically, were the CEO of a company in the energy sector, would you do business at this moment in time in South Africa or the Congo?
I'm thinking any company doing business at this time in South Africa or the Congo, would soon have no working product and no money in revenue coming from such hell holes.
Of course, all in my humble opinion. And, in my humble opinion, I think many people will think differently about DNRG if/when some real news comes out. But, if you own shares currently in DNRG and want to sell, I'll buy them from you for .0001 now and sell them back to you at .008 when the volume/price will support that.
If I had a certificate of stock ownership in GERS going back years ago when I first invested, it would read something like this.
.0000000001 share (plus or minus a couple of zero's) With all the r/s my original holdings would definitely qualify for long term capital gains.
Someone posted something to the effect of a share of GERS pre split all those r/s ago, the share was a billion or trillion or some huge number.
A quote from the article,
"Einstein analyzed a dynamic equilibrium being established between opposing forces. The beauty of his argument is that the final result does not depend upon which forces are involved in setting up the dynamic equilibrium."
Fitting for GERS to include the investors to the infringing companies reaping the rewards of the patents for so long.
Maybe one of the reasons DNRG has been having problems in Africa is African countries themselves?
Recently the news from South Africa has not been good. Confiscating land from landowners, all with the blessing of the South African government. And the Congo is more a nightmare now than it usually is.
Those are two countries where DNRG has tried to do business.
Angola should be interesting though. I think it may be very interesting. Time will pass and time will tell.
Scam. Scam. Scam.
If people who think this is a scam now, until proven for sure one way or the other in the future, have millions of shares in their accounts, then it would be the best thing for them to dump their DNRG shares onto the market and drive the price down to .0001.
This way, I, an investor in DNRG to the tune of over 20k could average my shares greatly by picking up their shares.
Makes cents to me anyway.
Thanks. Sometimes it is easy to see if a national trend affects publicly traded companies in similar ways instead of just one company.
Tax cuts are good, though with all the NOL's the company has they probably don't have to pay income taxes for a long time. Though maybe if the infringing companies start paying their share of royalties.
On a related note. I'm too lazy to check the stock prices of other ethanol companies. Did anyone notice if their blogs/stock prices/news releases, etc... reflect the tax break stuff?
I find my happiness in food. Especially chips/dip, and pizza, and chicken wings, and chocolate... But I'll be really, really happy if DNRG actually got some revenue/real news and the stock price soars so I can buy the good chips/dip, and pizza, and chicken wings, and chocolate...
I think it's the Spring sunshine that melted the chill... well, at least I'm not chilly anymore and actually very pleased to see pertinent information regarding GERS being posted here.
Nice volume today. Would even be nicer if .09 became .90 and then, 9.00
Potentiate the PPS. Sounds good and I learned a new word, potentiate.
Go GERS (by go I mean, sustentation of the legal fight to enable the chance for the stock price to soar)
Thanks for the info about ameritrade.
have a schwab account and as an ex scottrader, now have the ameritrade.
posted earlier about the experience with ameritrade that spurred the opening of an account at schwab.
i now can see huge differences between the two and schwab is easier to use and much more professional.
what does this post have to do with GERS? well, from the recent posts it appears ameritrade is allowing trading of GERS. reason why? don't know, don't really care but i did think that it probably is not unreasonable to 'think' that various publicly traded companies have members of management reading such forums as ihub, and others.
maybe kk tackled the problem with ameritrade? whatever, i just would like to see the price of GERS soar higher than the moon.
With no recent SEC filings or news or pr's or anything, maybe the GERS website is not current also?
I know the various websites will show a date of current year info pertaining to the website and not the various 'whatevers' (in GERS case, the company info and such)
So, maybe there are things going on at the company, to include more employee's or expansions, and just being held close to the chest like everything else?
It will be nice to hear what is next for the company and it's travel down legal lane.
Waiting for DNRG to get some heavy volume +++ days reminds me of the old saying, "Are we there yet? When will be get there? Are we there yet? When will we get there?"
Of course, hopefully soon I'll be reminded of the old saying, "We're here..."
We are indeed one positive bit of news away from some action for DNRG.
Me too
Got my first shares of SGLB today. A paltry 330 shares@$1.50/share.
Feel good about this investment though I knew nothing of SGLB until just a few days ago.
What got me attracted is they did their r/s, have a reasonable amount of shares floating out there, and after reading about the management team they seem to have some smart people there.
Never knew a welder could get a phd in welding until I saw one is on the SGLB team. I'm not a type of person who could ever be a suit or tie ceo but I sure can relate to welders.
My thinking is to trade this stock. If it has a little bit of run then I'll sell and depending on the news causing a little bit of a run, will reinvest as the stock bounces around.
Guess I'll see with the rest of SGLB shareholders. Best of intentions to all involved.
From a selfish perspective, I think it would now be a great time for people with GERS sitting in their Ameritrade accounts to sell and drive the pps down.
Saying this cuz I now have a Schwab account! And the customer service they have is sooooooooooooo much better than Ameri(sell don't buy) account.
But, thinking people will just wait and sell if/when good news bumps up the GERS price.
Good 'luck' to all.
man, i sure hope so.
Snowing outside. Dog got sprayed by a skunk. My eyes are watering. But, still good enough to see and research stocks.
Like what I see regarding SGLB.
Limit buy order in for tomorrow.
Don't have a lot of coin but maybe if SGLB and some other stuff I'm invested in does good in the next few months, I'll get out of the coin realm and deal with paper.
Man, my dog stinks.
The recent attention pertaining to purchase/sales of GERS stock has revolved around the internet based companies. Scottrade being the one I had for years.
But, there are many brokers where you can buy and sell just about anything pertaining to stocks. I have an account in at D.A. Davidson, for example. All sales/purchases are via a live broker and the commissions are high. Plus, every year I have to sign a paper acknowledging the risk and ability to buy such stocks as GERS. And in the past r/s, the fee's were also high.
Used to drive my broker, Jay, crazy with some of my choices.
Thanks to some good advice I researched E-trade and Schwab. Both appeared to be similar in service but decided on Schwab.
Filled out everything online and when it came to funding the account it got a bit confusing as I mixed up account transfer with external account.
Turns out Schwab has a 7 day a week 24 hours a day customer service. Talked to a wonderful agent and got straightened out.
It's nice there is competition in the United States.
It would be nice if GERS stock price goes back down to sub penny as all those Ameritrade sellers sell their GERS... Of course, that probably won't happen. Too many savvy GERS hopefuls would snap up those shares before .009.
Slash, I think you could get a good job as a detective... man, you sure find some interesting bits of info. I for one, appreciate it.
After thinking about it, I'm going to start another account with a company that DOES let people like me lose my money investing in crap stocks, OR make enough profit to cause spontaneous giggles...
Thanks for the post.
much thanks 12378, good information.
after reading the other following posts I found your posts and Slash's to be the most informative.
i did something similar with my D.A. Davidson account. I've left some stocks in it in case they ever 'grow' but I no longer buy or sell on that account.
going to check out the ones you mentioned and open a new account as i DO love the high risk, penny stocks.
the one main bit of truth i learned from talking to the broker at Ameritrade is that buy/selling of a stock such as GERS has NOTHING to do with risk to them... (it's not their money, it's people like me who lose/win) rather, their commission structure is based for maximum profit for THEM. Scottrade charged more in commission for stocks like GERS and I, for one, was willing to pay a little extra.
Ameritrade could change to fit investors like myself but after my conversation with that 'man'? I doubt they know if it's day or night outside.
Also, it is good to have the ability to buy GERS if others get tired of such things as time, brokers, news (rumored or actual) THAT's when some good profits could be made. Just look at BTZO and all those investors who bought at .0001 and sold on that huge volume day for a 100% profit.
Okay. I was curious and called Ameritrade. Not too pleased with their service. Scottrade was muuuuuuch better. Gonna let their management know that. My advice, stay away from TD Anazitrade.
After the hostile 'service' agent talked to me like I was two years old, I learned the truth about GERS and Ameritrade.
He/it told me that, "Their" company (ameritrade) find such stocks as GERS trade at a basis where there is NO money for them (ameritrade) to be made in commission.
He said some stocks trade with paper and thus more expensive.
He was rude, crude, and demeaning. He told me to go to another brokerage house, and I will be looking into that indeed.
It has nothing to due with 'chill' or anything other then Ameritrade is just another corporate money-making machine with interests ONLY for themselves I(very apparrent by his/its tone)
Funny that I can sell my GERS but not buy anymore. I'd laugh but corporate pukes make me, well, wanna puke.
Anyone have a good idea for a brokerage that is better?
Just placed a buy order for five shares of GERS on my 'new' TD Ameritrade aka Scottrade. No problems. Of course I cancelled the order.
Learned something though. It did not post the commission but did have a link taking me to what they charge. Looks like all stock trades are under $7. Scottrade used to charge more for stocks under a certain price per share. Maybe this new platform might be better.
Anyway. At least for me. I can buy and sell GERS on TD Ameritrade. Yay. Whoopee.
TD Ameritrade replaced my Scottrade account. Trying to see if I like it or not. Miss the old format as Ameritrade has too many (censored) buttons.
Clicked on GERS and it shows 1.4 billion shares outstanding. Wonder where they got that number from? Says it has a market cap of 108.8 million.
It's all a game anyway. Let it flow, let it flow, let it blow.
Good day for VYST.
Why? Who cares. This is a boooooooooring stock to own. Maybe when I get to the age of 375 it will finally take off... or not.
The talk about, 'skinning the cat', brought back memories of when I skinned bob cats and mountain lions. Pretty simple to skin a cat especially with a sharp knife. Off topic? Not at all.
GERS has the sharp knife now and the infringing companies are the cat.
Or, if another ,,meta[p]hor is needed... 'playing cat and mouse'. Again, the cat is GERS and the mouse(mice) are the infringing companies.
Enjoying the posts here lately, actually some good info being shared.
My opinion is GERS has a good 'hand of cards' at the moment.
FACT:1. It is known that GERS was/is in active mediation with the infringing companies for many months now. There have been stays and ongoing negotiations. 2. The mice,cats, infringing companies want to keep the process 'going'. 3.It costs money for all the parties involved to keep going 4. In an appeal the costs for legal matters soars as does the chance for paying dearly. 5. GERS couldlose the appeal if proceeding. 6. As pointed out by Slash, many news releases by 'other' card holders has been made recently which shows face value of ties with GERS.
Yep, until proven wrong my money is on the knife, cat, and hand of cards currently held 'tight to the chest' by KK.
50k is indeed a very large investment. It would be excellent if you realize great profits here. I'm in this about 20k which is also a very large and for me, a huge investment.
Hard to guess which way this company will turn. Probably a r/s. Maybe some real news, maybe not. It is not hard to see that so far nothing substantial (in that an investor can really jump up and down, cheering)has occurred for over a year.
Good luck. Maybe one day too, I'll say DNRG is a great company. That would be nice indeed.
flail and impotently, are two words one does not see much anymore. lame horse is another rarely used phrase, mostly used by those of an agrarian upbringing.
hilarious, is of course a word used the world over and I can see your point of using that word pertaining to the investment of DNRG.
good job in combining such words together to convey you sentiment and opinion regarding DNRG.
guess i could be considered a 'long' as I got to participate in the activity when the stock price spiked up into the .30's. that was fun and a lot of smart people banked coin on that one, a lot of fast horses won the race during those moments, a lot of 'rock hard' steadfast investors brimming with vitality invested after that spike...
of course, yes, the release of all those pr's DNRG put out did little help, sorta like adding saltpeter to the pudding (so to speak) but those flaccid pr's stopped. also stopped were the tweets, twitters, facebooks, everything. so maybe the horse is not lame but dead or at least, neutered?
maybe the company is suffering from scieroderma? the 'body' fallen apart but still thinking it exists?
of course, the stock still trades. the range is between .0002 and .0004. it has not hit .0001 like soooooooo many other stinky pinkies. maybe it will? or... maybe it will rise 1000% if some REAL news or SEC filing comes out?
this 'long' (well not as long as most but longer than many)am definitely happy to see if the stock price becomes something along the lines of .01 or heck, maybe .1? (big numbers do not matter, with small numbers it's all about how they are used)
thanks for inspiring me to buy more when I get the funds.
Actually... from what I took from the previous post is that ICM has stated many times in the past to indemnify for the companies it used GERS technology.
So, if I'm correct in assessment, if a company settles with GERS that is under the protection by ICM than it loses that right of indemnity by ICM and thus the legal costs are borne by them.
So, if ICM settles with GERS then it will be interesting to see if it doescover the legal costs incurred.
Thinking it will start to heat up for this case and thinking I'm going to be happy I have stuck with GERS even after all the r/s and court crap.
I like the word, verge. On the edge. The precipice. Starting gate.
Racing blocks set. Adrenalin pumping.
Must say, since last June the quiet from the company has been both comforting in that no more Pr's that were mostly meaningless, have been released. And a bit uncomfortable because there has been no communication by the company in any form the average investor could glean any information from.
I know the last cash balance for the company was almost zero yet the debt huge.
Lots of promise and hope.
For all investors in DNRG, it would indeed be nice if your optimism translates into reality as then the verge becomes the moment of actual activity.
Is there really any Rubicon? Is it actually being marketed? How are the other projects doing? ... Of course, any POSITIVE answer via an SEC filing from DNRG would translate into a huge profit for investors. Otherwise, it's just more waiting, waiting, (yawn) waiting.