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The NEWS that the shareholders are waiting for is the ruling by the PTAB.
Regardless of that ruling, we will win our cases based on merit, in my opinion.
If VPLM wins the sanctions, the stock's going a lot higher...we'll have to wait and see what happens.
I think that everyone is waiting on the PTAB to rule on the Apple motion for sanctions. Not sure what is taking so long for the PTAB to rule, but we have no choice but to wait
While I, like all shareholders, hope for a good outcome on the Apple petition, it is understood that this is a "long game".
The fact remains that we WON the IPRs on MERIT, and in the long run, I believe that the MERITS of the case will be favorable for us. How long? Who can say...but the IPR ruling in November by the PTAB is important, and I remain confident
wow nyt, I didn't realize that if you breathe you used VPLM's IP...that is really brilliant of them...I had no idea...
"Yeah, everybody in the world is using vplm technology. If you breath, you're using vplm technology and you will owe. That's right, now all the banks owe vplm for their activities. Vplm is by default, big brother now and no one can buy or sell or move money or even communicate over the internet w/o owing vplm. There will not be enough money existing to pay all that is owed to vplm."
Europe is important - also because they are more concerned with anti-trust issues than the U.S., and have pushed back against the large Silicon Valley companies regarding data collection, advertising....Europe is more friendly toward small patent owners
https://www.lifezette.com/polizette/u-s-patent-office-needs-its-independence-restored/
Excellent article on the shifting tide toward protecting patent rights
Was this part of your due diligence before you decided to invest in VPLM?
VPLM is a White Rabbit...."go ask Alice, I think she'll know"
I don't find anonymous posts that predict when a stay in a Federal proceeding is going to be lifted as "interesting"....I find them to be a waste of time and pure speculation
what makes it interesting? The stays get lifted when they get lifted - the courts do things in their own time, not ours
it also gets more expensive for Apple as time goes by...what will a jury think of all this?
that is EXACTLY what I said, and you are 100% correct.
You are mistaken, not me
The decision to institute an IPR is NOT an adjudication, because no evidence, nor depositions have been taken. It means that the panel believes the IPR should go forward. (some do, some don't - like Unified's against VPLM)
The RULING on November 20th is the ONLY one that matters. It is not a REVERSAL of the ruling to go forward, it is an ADJUDICATION of the matter based on the evidence and testimony. and VPLM WON.
GOT IT?
WHAT REVERSAL?
You keep referring to a REVERSAL.
There was ONE PTAB ruling made on November 20,2017 which was in favor of VPLM.
Please provide the ruling which you refer to that was "REVERSED"...
hint - there ISN'T one.....
The original panel decision?
The panel was changed in the middle of the IPR. What are you talking about???.
There was ONE decision. November 20th, 2017.
VPLM WON on merits.
Precisely
VPLM won on merits.
and yet, when the stock moves higher, no comments....why is that?
if you READ the decision, you would know better. VPLM won on merit.
It's really simple
Have a core holding that you don't trade AND
Have another holding that you do trade to deal with big swings.
It's not rocket science.....
If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a car...
other than just generalized complaining, what is the point of your last post?
why does the price keep rising? .20 now.....
It is easy. Either you believe that the company will prevail in their legal proceedings or you don't. It is going to be a dogfight with Apple, but so far we are doing very well. If the stay is lifted, there will be renewed pressure on them, because the contingent liability will be shown on the Quarterly report, and it will be "updated"...
I'm in, and the day to day gyrations mean little.
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20130813005742/en/Voip-Pal.com-Asserts-Lawful-Intercept-Technology-Patented-Method
Voip-Pal.com Asserts its Lawful Intercept Technology is the First Patented Method of Intercepting VoIP Communications
August 13, 2013 08:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time
BELLEVUE, Wash.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Voip-Pal.com Inc. (“Voip-Pal”, “Company”) (OTC Pink: VPLM) asserts that its Lawful Intercept technology (U.S. Patent No. 8,422,507), is the first patented method for intercepting VoIP communications. The Voice over internet Protocol (VoIP) industry is experiencing very rapid growth, while traditional landline subscriptions are on the decline. In 2012 the VoIP industry saw revenues of $63 billion, and is currently experiencing double digit growth. With the number of mobile VoIP subscribers expected to reach 410 million by 2015, traditional wiretapping by law enforcement agencies is being rendered obsolete in that it is not effective in VoIP communications interception. Voip-Pal’s Lawful Intercept patent was applied for in 2007, two years before Microsoft Corporation filed for a patent, for its own version entitled Legal Intercept in 2009, (US Patent Application 20110153809). Though both patent applications had substantial similarities, Voip-Pal’s version had priority due to its earlier filing date. Microsoft’s Legal Intercept was rejected by the USPTO in 2011 and Voip-Pal’s Lawful Intercept was allowed in January of 2013 and issued as a patent this past April.
The ability to intercept VoIP communications is a critical part of the global war on terrorism. Governments around the world have blocked Microsoft’s SKYPE and similar applications due to their inability to monitor communications for the purposes of law enforcement. Recently Saudi Arabia and India announced intentions to join the long list of countries that have already banned SKYPE, joining Turkey, Pakistan, and Egypt among many others across several continents. VoIP-Pal’s Lawful Intercept was developed specifically to address the global demands of governments to enable law enforcement agencies the ability to perform live intercepts of VoIP communications. As the first patented technology of its kind, VoIP-Pal’s Lawful Intercept stands alone as a vital tool for law enforcement agencies around the world.
As a result of recent concerns over potential invasions of privacy due to broad surveillance, Voip-Pal believes legislation for the provision of lawful intercept with all forms of internet telephony could be forthcoming. It is possible that the United States may take the lead in such legislations.
The answer is simple:
Large Silicon Valley Companies don't buy IP unless they are forced to, or they can buy it really cheap. They would rather ignore patent owners, and/or litigate when legal action is filed. And this is EXACTLY what Apple, Verizon and AT&T have done (and Twitter).
Now it's 2018, and Voip Pal has received very favorable rulings by the PTAB, and will now go forward to lift the stay on the Federal Proceedings, and the stakes become much higher for Apple, et al...
What strategy will they have now that the PTAB has ruled in VPLM's favor? Likely they will continue to use the legal system to stall - but the stakes are higher once we get back into Federal Court.
But in general, this is exactly what these big companies do, and until now, they have had the PTAB, and IPRs do help them undermine IP of small companies. Is the tide shifting? That is exactly why no one has stepped up and written a check....
But it doesn't mean they won't have to.....
Stay tuned
Personally, I'm expecting the market to open on Tuesday, and for VPLM shares to trade....I feel quite confident in saying this
I believe that Apple has an opportunity to respond to our response.....hopefully no more than a few weeks....
Excellent response by the Voip Pal team to this feeble attempt by Apple to undo 18 months of scrutiny and eventual validation of the patents by the PTAB...
Bravo!
another question that will remain unanswered....
because it doesn't matter....
How does a small company compete with Apple, Verizon, AT&T, Skype etc....? Please tell us how Voip Pal could have grown a big telco, while their IP was being infringed upon by companies with BILLIONS of dollars to pay lawyers, build out networks etc...
I'd say that describes a "stacked deck"....
So why are you so critical of Voip Pal, who may have been victimized by all of this infringement?
Ummm let me see....oh wait, the PTAB CHOSE not to say why they changed the panel - they just did it.
Oh wait, let's engage in endless speculation about it....that's the ticket.....
NEXT.....
According to people that I know who have worked in Silicon Valley for a long time, Apple's strategy thus far is "by the book"...
And many of them are impressed with Voip Pal's progress.
That's a MIGHTY BIG IF
I'm more interested in things like this:
Voip Pal sues Apple, Verizon and ATT
Voip Pal successfully defends itself against MANY IPR's over 18 months of discovery and expert testimony.
Apple then files petition to undo the PTAB's ruling (based on the Sawyer letters that had NOTHING to do with the merits of the case)
Voip Pal about to motion to lift the stay in Federal Court proceedings
you know.....the stuff that really MATTERS
So again I ask, why the "sudden" interest in VPLM immediately after Voip Pal won decisively in the Apple, ATT, Verizon IPR's?
My opinion is that if I cared enough about the PR, I wouldn't post conjecture on an internet message board, without calling the company and ASKING.
I notice that you began taking an interest in Voip Pal only after the Nov 20th ruling in favor of the company - and ALL of your posts are negative toward VPLM.
Just observing.....
And I am sure that you called VPLM IR and asked them for an "official explanation" rather than posting conjecture....
Well done....
and Gorsuch has already given us a hint that he is interested in protecting patent owners...
Total Presumption on your part.
Elmer -what's "skewy" is that large companies infringe all the time on smaller companies' IP, and then leave it to their large legal defense teams to try to squash the patent owner. That is a KNOWN strategy by Apple and others - however, VPLM is doing an excellent job of fighting for its shareholders, IMHO...
How do you know that they aren't "scared"? Do you know what the Apple board is thinking -if so, please share.....LOL
How come none of those 3 big dogs is scared enough by the possible grab of vplm by any of the other two? Sumpin' is vewy vewy skwewy awoun here... Ya think?
IF they can delay the lifting of the stay...we shall see