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Sadly for us
The PEG presentation by STWA will presumably be integrated into what is
private and confidential/proprietorial. How can any different areas of all that
liquid money/information be separated from the rest of it ?
It was enough - monumental in fact - that STWA was invited to present,
given the unlikeliness that STWA invited themselves.
If anyone needs to be told why it is significant/monumental, then they
can have no idea of what kind of stock or business they have invested
in.
Fingers crossed for the 10Q and its impact.
Not sure. Ask Armour.
Hopefully not too many days until !0q
but at least we won't have a countdown, not knowing
its date.
How about a count-up?
Armour, can you handle it ?
truethat
I guess the 10Q can be timed to suit STWA....once any additional
titbits can be added,following on from the PEG or otherwise..and Trans Canada
will have to be named as the source of the first revenue..
and this surely will get the institutions buying..
within a week of PEG? Let's hope so
and 1 day to go until we hear its 2 days to go
I can't wait
And tomorrow 5!!!!!
So?
we've already had the PEG news
Tedco
Rhetorical question or not, to me (a total amateur) this level
of cent-splitting suggests that all the traders know they all now have
minimal time and minimal scope for limited profits..
that they all share a real
awareness that the market itself is on STWA's side and ready
to bite them hard..
etc
Timing of the 10q
If there is a choice for STWA, my guess is that the 10q will come
after the PEG
Fantasy version being that a contract with Kinder Morgan etc
can be fine tuned during that get together !
Good posts
I am hoping..probably too much ... that the next 10q
will help the share price
To see the first proof of Revenue and the successful trajectory of
one NDA will surely get more investors on board
and what a good context - a formal and unflashy document - for some
more news of other customers/NDA's
when is the 10q due ??
Footer/Chic4Biz
Hi there
If you e-mail Gecfly, he will forward to you the link for
the tea..and other goodies...even if you were interested
in the squeaky trolley actually
WW
Good for you
I'll put the kettle on
to my fellow investor Footer
let's talk over on Raging Bull
about our investment and the topic of STWA
and how to make the passage of time
less viscous
Hello CHIC
I have missed you also and what an exciting re-introduction
at the masqued ball whicih is I HUB etc.....Footer ???
And I will completely forgive your
tantalising posture as a mysterious benefactor of
few words...
when are you coming to this hub of nuts ?
only when the ******* rocket takes you East ?
I am away now for a few days - I cannot reveal where because
that would reveal my true identity..
but I will be back early next week
how iis your whacky life ? full of pets and music and curious people ?
must go..North.. to walk and walk and get lots of fresh air
Is this serious ?
Or will it be deleted before I can accept ?
Footer, it is a tremendous offer. I know what I'd like
to say.
But certain things occur to me...like...this is the first time
we will have exchanged any direct communication ?! Yes ?
did/do you ever use Raging Bull over the years or even decade ?
where are you based ?
How about if you haven't got any spare money ?
PIE
I don't know about the Tier 1,2, 3 etc
My guess is that it refers to the streams .. or to the numbers
of different processes or oils being managed..
dunno otherwise
SO ..is that 9 NDA's in total ?
or is it that 2 of the 7 have moved significantly forward ??
Sorry DPS !!
Great to learn of the activities of the management - I always understand them
to be incredibly busy and certainly Cecil started the business of finding institutional
investors.
Great post DPC
and you spelt patience correctly !! (the sure sign of a long!)
Investing is a personal matter
and writing any kind of nonsense about it
albeit politely
involves an expoitation of the rules, the sanctuary offered
nonsense (the polite word) is a kind of personal insult
even if it has been repeatedly and politely
shown up for what it is
etc
And why tell a lie or mislead?
It would be easy enough to prove - whether at the time or
in retrospect - that was a misleading statement.
What would be gained compared to what would be lost and
damage done ?
In all this tortuous and convoluted progress, it has been
a most consistent theme that sooner or later, everything
communicated has been borne out and true. Under-promise
and over-deliver.
what a time to choose to change that !!
It was 7 NDA's ? As many as that ?
That's a lot of private information ..building up a huge amount of pressure !
And growing...
Let's hope the gasket blows soon...
One thing is for sure
surely : there is just no point in looking for an exact period
of time, of days either side of a date, within which TC is bound to publicise
something sensational.
While that must be in a general sense what is in the order of things
I am sure that it is the other clients who are going to give us the
boost we are watching for day by day.
Upstream, I think , will be the first...
My fear is that they are all going to be as secretive as TC and that
the mean old market will find any reason to slow down the rise in s.p.
Unless STWA has decided to orchestrate a sequence of Press Releases
that will outweigh the Static Tendency..
Those dates are legal parameters
anything can happen within them.
These parameters could not have been created
without a large amount of successful testing and its
information (secret)...and its confidence.
Some things cannot be hidden, no matter how
private the constituent details may be.
the word is PATIENCE
patients are people who need their bodies or
minds examined
which is maybe who you are talking to !!
I used to care for Investors in my clinic
and with my potions....as a joke
Now I am more patient myself
and certainly an impatient one
did you delete Sleepy 's post
To Skibum yesterday? And the 2 enquiries
about it ?
Armour - are you an editor or moderator
of this board?
Responsible for deletions perhaps?
SKIBUM
did you see yesterday's message which was addressed
to you...by a poster called SLEEPY ??? (who called you
John I think)
Let me know if you would like to know what it said.
(assuming you are John and know Sleepy)
It was the most dramatic letter posted in my time
But it was deleted within minutes.
I was definitely not hallucinating !!
Giving JT crap. Etc
No-one is giving JT crap; at least I am not.
I give great respect and credence to his analysis of the ways of
the market; not having a clue myself
But it is another matter to suggest constantly that STWA has
had obvious options which could have steered the s.p. up ( and
without risking a back-lash) and now that the secrecy of Trans Canada is
also serving to cover up a host of the CEO's own failings...all of which
doubts or accusations would disappear instantly and as soon as big news
arrived
Now there is the suggestion that STWA is vulnerable ..maybe legally to Trans Canada
who will never reveal anything etc..and that the CEO is being suckered or is not
revealing the details of negotiations in a way which is dangerous for us. Do you really think
the lawyers aren't all over these negotations as a matter of course ???
Do you really think it would be good
business practice while trying to work with a first customer to be constantly looking
at the shareholders - as if there was a doubt about everything ?
I have not been over-impressed by the Publicity - ie by the way it has been
written but I am dubious that a mass of PR's full of dynamic ..er..sound bytes..
would have changed much. I don't know.
I bought my first stock in 2003 I think. It is my only stock and I have every faith that
the years of waiting and of intense frustrations will be worthwhile - and I make no
bones about wishing that I had had the ability to break out and re-invest elsewhere..
until when ? well, I still think March will do the trick..
Or April !!
Your Highness,
Most respectfulIy, I think you are being a little disengenuous here.
Insofar as a Penny stock investment has its own category of
Risk and would normally entail an understanding of that risk and an
acceptance of it..(unless you really are a fool)..and it is also highly likely
that the same investment is decried by any broker or professional.
Clearly there is a kind of trust and a set of procedures that for an unknown
period of time may be completely different to those around a conventional
investment - and around a company who are from the outset in a position to
offer an ROI
...but maybe nothing much more than a very ordinary return; a predictable one
I already have an ROI on STWA : my average spend per share is below 50 cents.
It is simply not true to say that I invested for the ROI as you suggest. I have
something far more radical in mind. Thus the pain of selling stock.
As such, I cannot believe that the nature or the frequency of the Press
Releases is a substantive issue in STWA history - nor is how "my money" is being spent,
nor is which class Gregg Bigger flies.
The substantive issue is how much money and susbidiary complexity is involved in what is a game changing development and which, ******* annoyingly, involves a lot of privacy.
JT the KING
as in those names that wrestlers give themselves for TV displays ??
I do not know enough about what is possible via PR maybe combined with dynamic
MM work - perhaps any Press Release or regular PR's would have walked the
price up and provided the ROI you refer to, or the option of selling or a warm-all-
over feeling with satisfied friends also..
But my understanding of STWA's position over the years is that there has been total
avoidance of such tactics and to avoid any hint of trouble and marketeering ie anything that is not the
core business as represented by a simple strategy which involves under-promising and
over-delivering - all for long-term gains.
We know about the patents already, in principle, and we know that the priority has always been
the AOT - ever since Elektra had to give way to it. In the world of PR and given STWA's past and how it has clung to us for so long, who is to say that the trumpeting of new patents might not be
counter-productive ? ie "are they confident in AOT or not ? why are they trying to divert attention
away from AOT with this Joule Heating patent?" etc etc
If I had other stocks or other penny shares, I might well have moved out some or all of my Zero
shares and waited for better times for STWA...but as a sole investment, I have had to adjust the
faith and even the obsession that is part of the territory - adjustments
according to the changing nature of the business and its long term objectives and which
changes by STWA have been enormous : it is very very frustrating but our little green friend is now
behaving like a very big boy and the selling of shares is part of that change. Who is to blame for that ?
Surely, the trumpeting of new patents will be much more effective once AOT has started to
transform the oil management : not only does AOT/STWA give you this revolution, but then the
same company/brand gives you Joule Heating benefits. Oh, and here is Elektra for another large
part of global industry.
There has to be a reason for what is infuriating: I think it is the ambition of Greg B and the team
which is now serving us up the consequences of our own faith - and while I am ****** furious when I have to sell, I must also accept that I have had plenty of warning about this, even if I cannot
really do anything about it.
I just hope and pray that the next contract will be broadcast so loud and clear that the great big
weight that is Trans C will lighten up a little - who knows, perhaps the Canadian heavies are
trying to sweat the STWA shareholders so that we accept their takeover offer! Fat chance.
Pie and others - a new patent
Check out Gecfly's last letter on Raging Bull.
He's found a new patent application in the 10Q
Just as our brains are cooking with impatience
re NDA's, at least mine is, there is news about
spin off technology re heating generated by AOT
My last remaining share will be worth 1,000 dollars
If you feel personally let down
Then sell your STWA stock and go for a
different kind of investment where it's all
Meat and two veg
What is murky about the Peg conference,
About Mad Money or latest photographs?
How long have you been invested?
That response is out of order
And misrepresents or misunderstands everything about
STWA's position and policy and everything about posters
whom you do not speak for I am sure
I am desperate for the news that will change the s.p.
But if you can' t see the goodness of the news that
We do learn, then it would seem you do not know
even what you have invested in
With your bodily fluids not far behind
excellent. keystone named in photo
Has that happened before?
Who could it be apart from Trans Canada?
Also, it has to be true
that every NDA will increase STWA's value share-wise
as soon as one NDA turns into a contract
or as soon as one contract arrives without all the Trans Canada
fore-play
I don't believe a single NDA will fail to turn into the
next phase
Well said Armour and Zerosum
and yes, Zerosum, for accuracy's sake, i was also
referring to what Tedco and The King had said
the point being that I fail to use a precise or relevant
post as my starting point !
what a quiet day (after the 3 million have been gobbled up)
Correction : possible problem
ie why would STWA prioritise now the litigation re a possible problem
of money finding its way into Mueller's pockets..?
If there has been procedural abuse re the non-removal of those certificates,
why should STWA be focussing on that now? Let that wait and maybe let
someone else deal with it ..
You seem wrong about Mueller
it is by no means clear that he benefits. The legal-ese language
avoids that specificity - and it may be that there are other clearer
clauses that prohibit Mueller's gain.. otherwise,what was the overall
Point of his proven culpability and punishment?
First, the Cede documents represent M directly or indirectly.
Then the words " inasmuch as the Cede shares continue to be
within its system" suggest the procedural basis of the reinstatement
to STWA's books and records. These could be smooth talking
In relation to the physical documents needing a home and which covers the
Cash going into M's pocket - which is why STWA might have litigated,
to achieve that clarity.
But maybe at this stage, the certainty of benefits from 3 million more
shares is more important than another problem of another example
of others' law breaking or gaming the system.
Party games at a Conference ..
Just imagine the situation : you have references by Bjorn to the
TC installation..what words does he use ? "the 30 billion dollar
carrier etc etc" or however it would be....
and all the executives are working out who it might be, since it is
not themselves, which fact they could be very willing to divulge...
so by process of elimination, it is worked out that it must be the man wearing the
iron mask and sitting alone at the bar afterwards...
May 6 Conference
apart from a major vote of confidence in AOT etc,
in being invited to address the conferece
it surely seems pretty likely that some contracts are going to have to be
genuinely OUT THERE and LOUD
prior to this Conference
maybe even one with KInder Morgan
Anyway I have convinced myself of this
otherwise it would be a ballroom full of NDA's
all wanting to have the first dance with Bjorn and Greg
etc