I know who my money's on

Good old King never fails to try and lighten up the mood or change the topic.

Right on KB

Bravo

Well said SP!!

But is information ever really "clouded" by facts?? :)

When Kim's $100k drawdown will only mean 125,000 shares of dilution................catch my drift? :)

Please tell me what does not make sense. Don't blindly make general accusations without backing up what you are saying.

Obviously you have not done the necessary DD and have no idea how our line of credit works. Let me spell it out

The deal with Calm Seas Capital is of this sort of nature:

Kim needs money, he calls Calm Seas, says to them he needs $100k this month. He chooses a date and for the five days prior to this date, the average share price is taken. Let's say this average PPS was 0.125. The deal with Calm Seas means they hand over $100k in return for the applicable number of shares at the average share price less 20% (their discount as part of the deal) = 0.10. So Kim gets his $100k and calm seas gets 1M shares (meaning 1M shares of dilution.

If he had done it your way, there is no reason to suggest his costs would be different so let's say he again asks them for $100k. This time the PPS is 0.01, less the 20% so this means Kim gets his $100k and Calm Seas gets 12.5M shares (meaning 12.5M shares of dilution).

Personally I prefer it Kim's way. Do you still prefer it your way?

(BTW all if I have any of the details a little off base, please correct me but I think I have the general drift correct)

It wasn't a 'thought' it was a stone cold statement of fact!!

The method of PR'ing that you suggested would have had a net result of something in excess of 10 times the amount of dilution over the last 12 months than we have actually had now. It's a ludicrous suggestion.

If you 'keep making money on his shortfalls', why do you have an issue?

Agree on the Noel comment but hey, all he seemed to be doing was putting all our thoughts down in print. Although way off base on the timelines, I think he gives a pretty rounded idea of what the company is about.

Sorry but the fundamental flaw of what you are suggesting is the enhanced dilution that would have been experienced by going down your suggested route.

Instead of drawing on the line of credit with an amount of shares proportionate to the required drawdown value at prices like 0.20/0.16/0.12, he would be doing so with shares of a value of 0.01. Therefore it would have cost him(us) 20x/16x/12x as many shares.

For these reasons, personally, I'm glad he went the way he did. Otherwise we'd have had circa 12 months of MUCH increased dilution compared to what we have had doing it his way.

What's happened with HDY? Have they had news??

You want proof? Take these simple steps replacing underscores with an m. (Why don’t you just do that for us??!! Weird)

Google Ben Hansel and ttfsco. (did that, nothing came up – credibility waning)

Then go to robtex.co_ . (did that, www.robtex.com/ completely duff website of no relevance – credibility disappearing)

Type in ttfsco.co_ (did that, ttfsco.com/ even more duff website that somebody has built in 5 mins and cut and paste all kinds of random text……………………… the smell of credibility doesn’t even live here any more)

and click the "lucky" button. Then go to the shared tab. (are you for real?? - credibility moved out, took all it’s things and moved in with a younger women)

You can then find websites that are hosted by the same common domains. You should find swalert.co_ , the500pct.co_ and other interesting connections. Already proved that Scott Key owns those websites via RMCP's S-1. (I’m obviously not smart enough to follow your step-by-step instructions, or possibly they are intentionally leading down a blind alley hoping that confusion results in possibly believing what you are saying)

BTW, Feds are here! (mwahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah)

PLEASE NOBODY TAKE ANY NOTICE OF THIS GEEZERS POST.

It is a repost from last week. Six people responded to this poster, questioning his motives and credibility and he neglected to answer a single question directed to him.

DO NOT EVEN BOTHER TO READ THE CRAP BEING WRITTEN.

EVIDENCE - NONE
LINKS - NONE

MOTIVE - CLEAR

bye bye shorty

WELL SAID Z06

Come on people, WOWZER I went to bed and all hell broke loose (which predictably happens every day this board sees a real red day).

1. Who in the hell has any proof that Kim T had any involvement with that pump? I would love somebody to post it here if they wouldn't mind. Otherwise, let's presume he didn't, after all WHY THE HELL WOULD HE. He sure as hell wouldn’t have paid 300k to anybody for that waste of time (I mean come on, he is as tight as a ducks a'hole!!!)

2. The P&D newsletters on this occasion were (to my knowledge) completely different to the ones involved in previous P&D's. EastWindResearch, MomentumHunter, ElitePennyStock. None of these appear to have a link to CSC so all roads lead away from KT at this juncture.

3. Seriously, what has changed within a few days? There has been a P&D, so what, it comes with the territory. We were around this PPS last Friday with no expectation of an 'imminent' PR. Since then we have had an embarrassingly pathetic P&D and where are we now? Exactly where we were last Friday. Net effect ZERO.

As somebody has said already, just take a break, look away from the screen for a few days maybe a few weeks and come back when we have some real news.

I mean, it's almost as if one of the most erratic members of the board started dishing out his meds and everybody started popping them.

Cool it people, we will all be rewarded.

Still long & strong (with a little touch that I'm playing with)

I certainly won't have to look far to find that.

"you are supposed to discuss the stock and I have nothing to do with it."

Please practice what you preach Ed

GOOD READING

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=60874603

Ha ha I know I am.

Long & strong, the future is very very bright!!

Because WE (those who are investing) know full well that the pump just comes with the (pennystock) territory, the net (long-term) effect is insignificant.

The long term is unchanged, monumental richness being the eventual outcome.

Along the way, taking Manshoon's (and a few other people's) advice and will try and use the pumps to build up my position. The main danger of this is if the pump precedes a genuine piece of information that causes a pop. I won't mind one bit if this happens to be honest as my core (which should always be around 80%) will have reaped the benefits and I'll be happy.

Matt,

Chart analysis is much appreciated. I am a relative newbie, especially to t/a and I am enjoying reading your contributions.

Glad to have you here, please keep it up!!

Sorry peeps but I sold my soul to the devil ha ha

I let go 175k yesterday, first time I've done it but I was sick of watching the pumps come and go without taking a punt at capitalising on one of them. If we drop tomorrow I'll buy back in straight away and it will have been worth my while.

If we get big news and the share price pops then I will still be as happy as the next guy as this this is only a portion of what I hold. My core is staying put! I'll throw it into something else in the meantime.

If anybody wants to come round and collect my 'longs' badge off me then that's fine :)

Wow just woke up to see a great day for the markets across the board more or less. I would think this is the reason why we managed to hold our ground. I think each time KBLB gets pumped, credibility (to those not privy to this board) drops and the PPS seems to end up lower than pre-pump.

Red - HDY flying yesterday!!

Cheers ZF

Sounds like an answer for ZF!

As far as i know, the human side of it is definitely in full swing and i think one day we'll see these things being the cure for certain diseases or conditions but from a commercial standpoint I thought Sangamo kept the medical uses for themselves.......?

Don't forget that SIAL only have the license for ZF's for non-medical uses. Sangamo have kept all the medical side for themselves (so I believe)

Ha ha nice segway

Today EastwindResearch.com announces eight stocks to watch closely: Kraig Biocraft Laboratories (OTCBB - KBLB), Bank of America, (BAC), Ford (F), General Electric (GE), Pfizer (PFE), Charles Schwab (SCHW), Sprint (S), MGM Mirage (MGM) and Citigroup (C)

http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/eastwindresearchcom-morning-alerts-kraig-biocraft-laboratories-bank-america-ford-general-1539481.htm

Forgive me for nit-picking folks but I counted nine stocks, not eight. Do you think ours was in their by mistake??? :)

Ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaa

I wonder how long that post will last!!

Yo KB,

Somebody has already hinted at this but for me the inclusion of those 8 multi billion pound giants is simply in order to make the pump look legitimate. Giants don't generally get pumped like pennies so their names have been included to make it look less of a pump.

Nice to see us with the big boys in the same sentence though :)

Ironically both the girl in the video and zinc finger seemed to have been under the influence of something when dancing/typing ha ha

Ok joint favourites

Woo hoo that's my favourite post by anybody - EVER

I wish Zinc did investigative posts on people's DD the way he does his science posts

Not a leg would be left to stand on!

Not that you aren't doing a good job Saint!

I would love to myself but lots of work to do and I've already wasted plenty of my morning on the board!

FOR ANYBODY SILLY ENOUGH TO LISTEN

Listen dude!

Your DD is way off base (if present at all).

Motives are clear.

We all established a LONG TIME AGO that there may be something unsavoury about CSC, SWA, possibly Hansel. However at worst it is a necessary evil, at best it has been fantasised into something it is not

That does not in any way shape or form make KBLB a scam (like you seem intent on implying). KBLB's tech, setup, legitimate & trusted relationships (of which they have many) mean there is not a single shred of possibility that we are onto a scam IMHO.

So Kim goes out for beers every once in a while with a few (potentially) naughty boys, what does that mean? Sweet FA

I'm from Liverpool England which is a 'working class' city if ever there was one. Growing up in Liverpool it was quite rough. I can name a list of ex-friends who are now doing time. What does my relationship with them imply about me? Sweet FA

Stop clutching at straws in the vain attempt that you can bring this back down to satisfy your short position. As the late great Mr-T liked to say "I pity da fool".

WHAT!!!!! MR-T ISN'T DEAD????????

Zinc have you been on the NZT again?

Many thanks for the efforts dude

Noooooooooooooooooooooo!! Don't ask ZF his background!!!

I did that in post 22358 and he went mental!!!


Ha ha just kidding Zinc, I actually have that post framed in my apartment!!

Thought it best to delete my first answer to "imagine what Maryann would look like in Gilligan's Island 2011"

I don't want to get sent to solitary!

Am I Maryanne?

I mustn't have been around when you start out....lol

You need to put him on ignore and then switch the 'ignore' filter to 'enabled'

I've spent the last few months in a happy as life blinkered bubble thanks to that feature ha ha

They do seem to spin yarns tbh

Didnt we do this whole IFRC thing about 8/9 months ago?