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Send me your eMail address in a PM?
Don't you EVER have anything else to say?
Stock health and future is in the hands of those who know the entire story and the information required to make this a good picture. I think you're appointed to tell us what they say, whenever you get the chance to talk to them.
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Wishing you "Best regards" in your effort.
Thanks for the Private Message. The certificates cost $50 for each separate stock (company) that you want to guarantee certified shares.
Order the certificate from your broker. It can take a few weeks to get one, including shipping it to you, which is included in the cost.
Talk to your broker about this, it's good insurance and the cost is deductable as a necessary expense to the IRS.
PennyZone, you can't take her so seriously all the time. Sometimes she shoots from the hip and misses the target.
She has however also provided some very helpful or meaningful input.
I think that you should focus upon relaxing just a bit. You and I are not going to create the outcome, we're watching it. You either like what you see, or are curious about the next move, or you are uncomfortable and should leave to play a different one.
This may (according to logic and sketchy information) turn out to be a good investment. It also may not. At this point nobody on this board has enough information to know that, ...although there are those who seem to ALWAYS know. (Even when they don't)
I didn't take the time to thank you yesterday for your thoughtful analysis. Thanks for the quick response to my request.
It’s always a pleasure to hear from you.
Your accurate analysis of chart information and candid opinions are appreciated.
50 million, ...and optimistic, ...whenever I happen to remember that I still own this stock.
I bought a Certificate for this one, since there are SURLY a gazzion Naked Short (I prefer to call them Counterfeit) shares. And when this begins to move I want to be sure that the shares in my account are REAL ones. That Certificate sure looked great!! 50,000,000 Shares. Suitable for framing, but I signed it and mailed it back to the broker. I'm ready to sell it to some optimistic investors after Wil tells us all about the new project that has been brewing in the background, ...and after the MMs are forced to cover their shorts in October.
We may see some action this year. 'Hope so.
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You're right, it's miserable. Sometimes they go up and sometimes they don't. Lately, ...it seems that they rarely do.
I was attracted to the Fish Farming operation. I'm fascinated by it and have considered creating a fish farm myself. Then DVFA came along and took over. It looked like it might be a profitable experience and still might, but it's a long walk back up to where we were. If the MMs sold a lot of Naked Shares already (of course they did) then they won't be too keen on allowing this PPS to grow anytime soon. Tens of thousands of shares are now worth less than a weekend at the beach.
Don't cha just wish that the Department of Fish and Game would issue tags for hunters to bag several fat MMs each season? What a difference it could make in the lives of the average investor. The meat could be used to feed polar bears that seem to be losing their natural habitat due to global warming. That’s a win – win situation.
OT: – I bought our youngest son a Porsche 924 many years ago and after driving it, was tempted several times to buy a 928 for myself. The 928 might easily become a favorite in my stable from what I’ve read.
I agree with you concerning the FishFarm. I had a feeling recently after looking into the new version of TQWI that something happened there which deserves more attention. DVFA should have an interest in the new operation unless we see that DFVA was properly compensated.
tothe: Thanks for the Private Message. I feel about like you do in this situation. It's pitiful but there are some redemptive qualities in the things we have seen. It’s not at all foolish to be optimistic about the future of the company, although in this venue foolishness sometimes seems more powerful than sound judgment and logic.
Thanks for the update. The company might be something great in the making and we can't know that today.
This is a mess at the moment and I hope you encouraged them to keep us posted, lest we die out here.
MaryKateAustin reported the the company is selling shares, the MMs are creating "airshares" and people are bailin' out. Would sure hope to not have to wait the full two weeks for some more official news.
There might be 500k new Naked Short Shares in this pool today. It's EXACTLY the right circumstances for MMs to dump new counterfeit shares into.
They may have created this whole thing today and if they keep it up, the PPS is difficult to raise due to the huge increase in supply over demand. Similar to Dilution but the only winners are the MMs and the short traders. The normal investors lose money and the company gets nothing but a bleeding wound.
I read your posts and some were good. I'm not interested in lunch money for next week, I don't need that.
MaryKateAustin, would you drop a note onto the DVFA board and give us your impression after looking at the current picture of the DVFA chart?
I owe YOU? When did I agree or you suggest that we had a bet of $10 for anything? I don't remember it. If I said it, I'll pay it. Or are you just trying to mock me somehow?
Jesus doesn't "drop kick" me anywhere, anytime. Sometimes people try to. You probably have no idea who Jesus is if can talk so carelessly as that.
You sure seem to get happy when you're watching others suffering. That's interesting.
This is not at all what I expected, but then sometimes that's how it goes in this market. But it ain't over until it's over. And this is not over yet.
Agreed, but they're probably saving the juicy stuff for next week when they announce the name of the CEO.
This was a sweet little offering of information that may not go as far as we had hoped but it does light the fire. There is something burning and we have official confirmation of the type of company that is being formed.
It is never a good idea for this type of company (Diversified Acquisitions) to release the names of corporations that they are involved with in current negotiations. There are too many novice investors who think they need to "investigate" the deal by calling the management of the prospective company during business hours or at home if they can discover the phone numbers of these unsuspecting victims.
The things that we have uncovered thus far suggest that the principals in this company are not novices. I'm encouraged, but I wish that I had been overwhelmed. I guess that's later. It might even be a valid strategy to release news and information in stages to allow the market to react upward on each individual piece of good information, ...not exposoing it all in a single surge.
Preliminary research proves otherwise. There will soon be answers to the questions that have been raised while we've been in the dark, but during this time there have been some glimpses into the place where work is being performed and the shape of this new company is being established. From what we've seen so far, it's certainly not an empty room.
I’m personally looking forward to hearing from Jimmenknee after the PR and after he has a chance to do some research on what is presented. I think we’ll be compensated for the wait. Most people holding this stock believe that we will.
On the surface, that was a great post but it has another side. I came across this post while following a thread and am curious about the reason that you posted it.
If you did some "Googling" (as you say) then you must have also learned that this story was revealed to be a scam (or Joke) back in November of 2000. Most of the top Google references point to it as a hoax.
Bashers do exist, paid Bashers do exist and organized, orchestrated bashing does exist, but why would you use this confirmed lie as a testimony, as though its contents are true?
This is a miserably messed up world that we live in (for now). There are people on both sides of the line and some who think that they straddle the middle. There is however no middle ground to stand upon for those who participate on the dark side.
This is just an observation, not a judgment of personal behavior. Like I said, I am curious about why you posted it. Do you believe that the fellow who originated this tale was telling the truth and later recanted only to protect himself? Or did you actually know nothing about the volume of research done into this story immediately following its release? That would be hard for me to believe, but “possible.”
Agree !! Great Post. I'm not sure that God had as much opposition in His project as Well Renewal has had, but I'm ready to cheer rather than grieve every time I take a look into the Well Renewal situation (and my account balance).
When I looked at those numbers yesterday, I felt that there had been MM manipulation at the open with those 100 shares "traded" at .0005 and again later the same 100 shares supposedly "traded" at .0004
But the field didn't fall for it and remained virtually unchanged all day. A penny one-way or the other at a time like this is nothing worth noting, "trend-wise."
The general trend downward from .24 as we awaited a PR was unfortunate for those who held their shares, but was an opportunity for those who stepped in at lower levels.
It appears that the OldTimerDraftsman will be rewarded with an upward leg on that "W" pattern after all. Today's (or Monday's) news will surly provide the leg that he's been calling for.
The question of company value after the PR is what is on my mind today. At the moment we can't know what this company is worth and that's precisely why the downward trend occurred.
It doesn't require much fluff to make a company worth $2,000,000 today, and with a value like that, we have a stock worth $1 per share. That would make a nice splash in several investor accounts here, ... including our pal PennyZone.
Did you get your nap? ...you’re feeling pessimistic today.
How can you say that the PPS will come "right back down" when you have no idea what the corporate Press Release indicates??
And as far as heavy volume, it's normal for people to want to load up if they anticipate that the PPS will rise soon. This stock has as much chance of a big "next day" gain as anything out there. The float, the current PPS, the anticipation, the fact that the news glimpses we've seen (if you believe in such things) are very interesting, ...all make me think that this is worth some serious expectation. Whether to hold it for the long term will depend upon the subsequent Press Releases. (What happens in the next month) but for now, ...it's going UP tomorrow or Monday.
I might be wrong. But I doubt it.
In my opinion, a sale of 10000 shares at .0001 and worth one (1) dollar is not worth mentioning. No volume allows the MMs to do anything they want to, ...and a sale worth one dollar is NOT a retail sale.
It's manipulation of the PPS. Nothing more.
You're RIGHT about that!! Buying into the pressure will cause a really swell day for everyone.
I love to get in on that kind of action.
Careful, ...or you'll have to delete yourself.
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Gee Whizz, it sounds like you NEED a nap!
Are we grumpy today?
The "rumor" of an imminent PR came from reliable sources and is about as legit-sounding as a rumor can get.
Drafty, I think the notion that the PR will be delayed for shares to settle was thrown out with Jim Daniels. Respectfully I submit that it does not serve ANY shareholders, even the ones who don't hold authorized (settled) shares to delay the release of a PR. That plan is at least part of why Jim is no longer with us. The PR will come now regardless of what happens to the unconverted shares.
Well, PennyZone why don't you go tell your iHub buddys on the discussion boards about what's going to happen here tomorrow.
Telling us is like preaching to the choir (as they say). It would be nice if there were several hundred folks standing on the sidelines tomorrow watching for news.
There are two distinct strategies for the release of Friday PRs, which contain really GOOD news.
One strategy is to release the news first thing in the morning so that the momentum can begin early and build throughout Friday with DD being reported by investors throughout the day and a nice end-of-day surge at the close. More DD will be reported over the weekend and the anticipation will cause a continued rise of the PPS on Monday.
The other is to release the news at the end-of-day Friday to allow the news to be absorbed and talked about throughout Friday evening and the weekend. By Monday morning there has been plenty of DD reported over the weekend and the stock explodes out of the gate with people scrambling to buy shares early, forcing the PPS higher each minute of trading.
Which will it be??
It occurs to me that we have traded nearly the entire float since the R/S - R/M. I certainly HOPE that those shares which are being traded are all legitimate shares. If the MMs haven't been selling Naked Shares ...then it shouldn't take long for this thing to launch after the news comes. Probably tomorrow.
Most people here will be holding for something above .24
The chatter of the optimistic ones were calling for $2, $3 and $5 per share before we entered the Cone-of-Silence. Many have averaged down and some here are new investors who got in near the bottom. Those can sell earlier but the majority won't sell when it starts to move so shares should become scarce almost immediately. If, (IF), ...the MMs will be trading genuine shares. A supply vs demand squeeze would be nice to see.
Nearly every stock that I own is quiet today. I hate it when that happens.
If all this conversation over 2s continues, there will be no rally back to 0003 (much less 0005). It scares some into selling.
The MMs love all of the conversation about 2s and are indeed buying those 2s and will sell them back to us at 3. They are NOT passing all of the sales on to retail buyers. They've been able to cover their shorts with .0002 shares.
Set your Buys at 0003 this morning (even small ones) and watch the marker return to a solid 0003 bouncing to 0004.
Don't we want the PPS to be going UP??
UpTick is the source. You don't need to know the source of his information; you only need to discover whether it's valid information. UpTick IS the source in this case. His source is private. If 10 people "discovered" his source and began to exploit that information, that source would probably hide in the shadows. (I would.)
Wait and see if the UpTick88 news ticker is providing sound information. Worst case, you'll have to wait until Monday to know that.
I expect news tomorrow.
Smoke, her thoughts are ahead of her fingers. If I didn't use a spell checker, ...well, back in the days before spell checkers my favorite secretary used to laugh at my spelling. It's Pitiful. Education can't fix some bad habits.
It was a good message though, and sometimes when my loss is painful in ABC, I'm sure looking to DVFA (I mean) "XYZ" or a few XYXs to heal the pain.
You’ve had some of those ABC type recently, Smokin Dude. What’s your favorite XYZ pick today?
Watching all of this struggle and commotion over $5k total in BUNM today.
I understand how .0002 is better than .0003 if you’re a buyer, but this is ridiculous. The volume is pitiful and the PPS is worse than that.
Cy, I might pop the cork on a bottle of French Red and try to forget.
Give a lady a break?? When the rib bone is bigger than the snarling dog, well, ...it doesn’t leave the impression that THIS is a woman to be reckoned with!
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Don't bet on it. We need news whether those last shares are settled or not. No news now, would mean that it doesn't matter if they're converted or not because they'll be worthless in another month of no information (if that's how long it takes the worst-case examples).
You'll be a spectator unless you can persuade your Broker to make an effort to fix your problem.
It has been a long wait but during that time, Jim Daniels didn’t promise things that never appeared. The only thing close to a commitment thus far was to UpTick recently and that word was "Before the Redskins Game."
I found that to be somewhat entertaining. Almost a riddle.
Anyway, that means that before Monday Night Football, we are supposed to have the initial PR. We can hope for some really satisfying news in this first one or at least enough information to prime the research pump.
Hang in there just a bit longer. It would be terrible to wait this long and then give up only hours before the news comes. It could be any time now and I doubt that they will miss this implied deadline.
September 19, 2006 - BUNM Close: 0.0055
Does today's BUNM justify a PPS equal to that based upon the condition of the company one year ago versus today?
What are the genuine factors preventing the PPS from going to .0055 today?
Please, … intelligent analysis and hypotheses will be appreciated.
What can we do to help drive the PPS of our company upward? (…and I do NOT mean mindless Pumping and a willful ignorance of negative influence – and some of that goes on here.) Rather, the collective power of a group of investors like this “could be” very influential in the health of a stock like this one, which has true speculative value and substantial potential.
We could also have considerable influence upon the CEO if we were united. Some CEOs feel that they can do anything they choose because the investors are individuals without representation. Much like a labor union, when management refused to listen to the common people until those people united and it then became clear that the company was going nowhere without the labor force.
Isn’t it possible to create some genuine unity and momentum on a board like this one that’s been around for a while and is going to be around for a while?? Not hype, but real momentum and influence.
EGAD, ...I've been literally drafted. Or was that a drive-by kidnapping?
I was thinking about the PM you sent to me concerning the Assistant position and formulating a pretty convincing list of excuses. Then the next time I returned to the DVFA page my name just suddenly appeared at the top of the page. It made me laugh.
That’s about how you became the Moderator isn’t it ?
I don’t even know how to act. What am I supposed to do about this new responsibility? It feels a bit like being a corporate board member (been there - done that) ...sit around and listen, ...but I'm really not sure what one of these folks is supposed to do and when to do it. I suppose I may as well re-activate my membership but I was doing just fine with 13 posts per day until now. Hmmm, …I need to get my wife to the airport in about two hours for a flight to California. Gotta go.
One more thing: I admire the other three members up on that moderator bar. Jimmenknee is terrific. Beans is a lot of fun, and the OldTimerDraftsman is a great sport with creative flare. I appreciate the group. Where is that radioactive Bean man anyway??
That "shotgun" approach to protecting yourself on a downturn makes sense. I'll not argue with that. There is nothing inherently wrong in taking advantage of the movement of the pps up or down.
But when investors manipulate the movement of the pps through postings and then take advantage of the artificial situation that they have helped to create, their motivation is greed and the loss of corporate value and of investment worth was unnecessary and unwarranted. To some people they see nothing wrong with greed and the “survival of the fittest” …and to a select few it’s considered a virtue. But greed behaves like cancer does toward healthy cells.
It can be a very short distance between intense attention, fervent desire, and a willingness to manipulate for personal gain. We hate it when the MMs manipulate as they do and literally steal money from corporations and from investors. Some investors are just as bad for the market as the MMs.
Wouldn’t it be nice if simple Supply and Demand governed this market venue without the tricks and the smoke screens?
The fact that corruption exists on a large scale does not make corruption acceptable in the least. That’s how I see it.
There are short-term and long-term benefits or consequences in most everything that we do.
Nearly all that I hear from you seems to be simple short-term strategy as it relates to the game at hand. What I glean from your posts is that you view the rules, as "there are no rules." It's a simple matter of numbers and whoever makes greater numbers is the winner.
Life is only like that to some people. To most, life is more than increase of wealth and numbers. Corporations are an extention of the life of people. Products and services are of value to the people of the world. I see people and you see numbers. I think toward the long term of growth, while you seem to sometimes mock the thought.
Teaching people to see numbers like you suggest doesn't create a sound marketplace, in my opinion, it prepares some to take advantage of it for simple short-term gains. There are companies in the Pink Sheets that represent decent hard-working people trying to make it, while on the boards somebody is calling their company a POS because they haven’t seen their money doubled since they bought shares. It’s a strange place with all sorts of people.
The cost to make this move toward Facebook will be considerable but the money doesn't have to be spent all up-front. The thing that's important is that there be a plan in place to upgrade as fast as necessary after the FaceBook interface is made available to FaceBook users, ...or we face the same mess that occurred recently.
The FaceBook interface will drive traffic toward Hypster quickly but will they stay? That's the only question that matters. If they're not going to stay then the investment will not pay off. Some of the upgrade segments are not accomplished overnight and those will have to be planned in advance of the need.
It would be my opinion that to delay the introduction of the FaceBook interface a single day longer than it's absolutely necessary for preparation would be a questionable decision. Indeed the market isn't going to wait for Hypster and if Hypster doesn't step up to the plate, somebody else will. The Internet is the fastest changing element on the planet.
To find the answer to your questions concerning the cost, Cy, isn't really possible for us without more information about what the platform looks like at this point. There are four major components: The bandwidth, the processing power, the storage performance, and the software performance. At this point, everything is in good balance. Adding more users is like increasing a flow of water. The first obstacle is the bandwidth, which means that you need an adequate pipe or hose (figuratively speaking) for the flow to the server from the Internet. Then after they get there, they need to be waited on by adequate horsepower, capacity and a database with a deep, fast reach.
I hope the FaceBook interface happens soon.
It will cost money to keep the performance up, as the Registered Users increase by huge amounts and the investors will scream "DILUTION!!" if Michael finances this through the sale of more shares. If the investors would pull together it would help. But they do need to be certain that when money is taken out, it was all spent toward an increase of the corporate value. If that's the case then we should approve the investment, and not call it dilution. It's investing toward a larger market.
But how do we know that for sure?
Making false claims in a PR can be a serious offense. That's precisely why investors want to see the information presented in a PR rather than an eMail or a phone call.
The SEC has stopped the trading of a symbol related to false PR information. PR information is not formulated to "sell stock" ...it's to inform stock holders and potential investors of important events and information related to the corporate activities and conditions.
When will the silly crap cease?? Only when the pps moves upward?