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Never said you were invested two years ago. It is clear that
if any shorting took place it happened before you jumped in at
.0070 in Nov.07. Jim showed the kind of volume that was taking place back then and you could see big swings on nothing.
It was very thinly traded. Even in Nov.07 it wasn't doing much
but it did INCREASE in price until Feb.08. I watched the daily tickers from then until July and saw nothing that looked like shorting going on....up and down and back and forth but
steadily decreasing as Gene failed to deliver on project
completions and news of new business dried up.
This story about being shorted from .95 down to less than .01
is Genes story since day one. He wasn't making any money and
people freaked and sold. Simple as that and happens all the time. I am in a stock now that was $13 8 mos.ago and today is
.80. Was it shorted down to there? NO. People sold it because it had no revenues and it needs alot of financing.
My point is this TDA letter you have means nothing and it is
two years old anyway. As I recall TDA did have on-line buying again in 2008 after that came out and then put it back in place again after several months.
Well we do know that 5 billion shares was not enough as of
Dec. 08. Folks made a big deal about that first reduction from 10B to 5B which was termed "an error". He raised it to
10B for a reason.....not 6, 7,8 even 9. Nope he needs 10B.
Back in July we knew that all the JV's and acquistions with restricted stock + the float was 320 million shares. Since then he has only done the EZZE deal....thats the only missing variable I believe to this puzzle. So all the deals were done except EZEE for 320million.
Gene won't tell shareholders where they stand yet there are those who will strongly defend his action and come up with
excuses for his behavior. Reminds me of the Patti Hearst
syndrom where the victims support the perpetrators because
they are tramatized.
OK...good luck. I once thought it was undervalued at .015.
If there weren't so many shares out you might be right.
Heres another link to what we were discussing:
Could probably find dozens of links just by Googling "mechanics of short selling stock".
Here's one.
http://www.thestreet.com/story/10383365/1/how-short-selling-works.html
Since the stock lender has lent out securities, it will require that the borrower (the short seller) post collateral to secure the loan . This collateral is derived from the short sale proceeds, which the short seller receives from the buyer. However, the selling broker will actually receive the cash from the buyer and will not disburse it to the seller. Instead, the selling broker will withhold those short sale proceeds, make a "memo entry" in the short seller's account and then use the short sale proceeds to post as collateral against the stock that was borrowed from the stock lender.
You can't make a "profit" if you don't have access to the money. As Jim pointed out the brokers hold onto the money from your short sale until you cover your position. You don't get the money or any interest on your money until covered.
Would you short sale a stock at .0001 when you can't cover
most likely for less than that and have your money tied up
earning no interest?
I have never heard of a US retail person who could short sell a pink stock.
I am not saying MM's have brokerage accounts. My understanding is they can and do short sell on occassion to provide liquidity and make a profit also but tend to cover
quickly.
Its all just another reason why a short position does not exist in RCCH. This addresses those who said the NSS folks
were waiting for a BK. Again highly unlikely. This could
drag on for years.
The RCCH board has debated for months now the issue of whether
a short position exists. Some claim that the NSS position is
open and has not covered despite the fact that most shares were presumably sold at .0001 and no profit could be made. Would it
make sense to have an open short position on RCCH with this being the case:
Even though you might see a balance in your brokerage account after shorting a stock, you're actually looking at a false credit, according to one big brokerage firm. That money is acting as collateral for the short position. So, you won't have use of these funds for investment purposes and won't earn interest on it.
And there are indeed costs associated
I understand your concerns but IMO no "legitimate" CEO operates this way. Simply not done. Gene tells shareholders every little detail of what else is going on with RCCH but
neglects to disclose the critical issues.
The IWS systems are not patent protected and could be easily
copied and replicated by interested competitors theoretically.
No one on this board has revealed known competitors and what
they have to offer. For all we know the IWS system may not
be the state of the art or competively priced. You better believe that any shell with cash is going to go over those
issues very, very carefully before jumping in. If months drag by without a suitor then you will know it is not attractive for one reason or another.
Will Newton ever tell you the truth? Hell no, not even when
others know by private disclosures. He will milk this corporation for every last penny he can as it is all he has
at age 63 IMO.
By all means contact Gene Newton ASAP because he is not aware of these completed projects in Montana and needs to bill for services rendered ASAP. LOL.
Then he can put out a PR with his "First Completed" wastewater
project as the CEO.
Born after dark but not last night!
Anyone familiar with the RCCH story and been following it for over a year knows that IWS has installed nothing new....not even Newton makes that claim.
Johnnyfibre provided the best DD of anyone on this board IMO
for going onto a year now. You don't trust his links and DD
and opt for Gene Newtons statements then you will be most
unpleasantly surprised.
Yeah but most the 8 billion shares picked up in the last 14 months executed at .0001 and my point is the only one who could gain from that was Gene Newton as previously discussed.
How about Gene Newton who has steadily raised the A/S from
500 million to 10 billion in about 14 months. He did that for a reason and it was not to acquire companies. He made 1 acquisition EZZE.
Posted by: ghcnj Date: Sunday, February 22, 2009 1:09:53 PM
In reply to: Jim Bishop who wrote msg# 60164 Post # of 60176
Correct again. Who would have this many shares to sell ???? Nobody. See you all later.
Thats interesting. Do you have a link on that statement?
Lets be REAL here. Your first post on RCCH was 11-27-07 and at that time the PPS was .0070. A few weeks later it had dropped to this:
Posted by: ghcnj Date: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 3:49:59 PM
In reply to: ManOfSteel who wrote msg# 1123 Post # of 60173
Bid .003 Ask .005 and it won't last more then a second once the PR is released. Again just IMO and a heads up. Everybody do their own DD and do what is right for themselves.
Then we saw it increase to a high of around .07 for a day or
so but several days at .03 a few months later with the phoney PR's Gene put out. Then a long and drawn out decline in the
PPS on low volume. It declined because the value wasn't there.
People bailed rather than lose more money. This continued right up until July when Gene gagged the TA. The PPS was already .0010 or something. Then the massive volume started
and drove the PPS to .0001.
You imply you were around when RCCH was being shorted from
.95. Look at those tables Jim provided. Drops of 50% on hardly any volume. No evidence of shorters. People sold this stock down because they were tired of losing money....it wasn't any short conspiracy.
Yep it happened to my account but was quickly fixed.
Because they have a product with a number of Federal and State approvals but haven't been able to sell it to make money for
whatever reasons:
Performance flaws?
Competitive pricing?
Lack of financing terms?
Competition better?
Lack of confidence in company?
Too small?
Take your choice but the bottom line is it is not selling and
resulting in completed contracts.
The sharestructure is a whole other story.
JIM: Would any shorter you have ever heard of sell pinky shares at .0001 in the billions to make money?
Yes, ghcnj has clearly explained why 8 billion shares have exchanged hands in a matter of months with only 300 million in the float and those "are held tightly". The A/S increased from
1billion in steps to now 10billion. The NSS is the culprit but most of the shares were at the .0001 range where there is
no appearance of any profit to be made by anyone except Newton.
The TA is gagged just before the huge jump in daily volume.
RCCH has not reported in filings or PR's any income stream and
yet they don't need money.
Detractors talk about these issues and supporters talk about
EPA, state approvals etc but these have not shown the ability to make money in the real world.
The sector is hot with billions to be spent in wastewater mgmt yet IWS has not completed a project in 2 years. People are hoping for a turnaround at IWS in the coming months, years
but look at what Newton has done to the sharestructure in just
the last 12 months.....a complete disaster. Will he completely destroy the company in the next 12-24 months? Well
everyone must decide for themselves but his trackrecord is less than encouraging.
I don't think the shareholders of RCCH did it for Gene Newton but it certainly helped his plans to sell shares. The House of Cards has collapsed leaving investors with billions of
worthless shares.
There may be some pump and dump now from those wanting to find buyers so they can reduce their exposure or exit quietly. Not to be confused with those who legitimately believe in RCCH and
may hold for months or years awaiting developments.
Every post on the board is an opinion in most cases and this
board had a ton of them....pumping the prospects of RCCH.
$20-30 a share
Huge short covering
Large assets revealed by completed audits
Low O/S mostly all restricted shares
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=35023881
Despite all the hype it didn't help the PPS but it did help
Gene to offload billions of shares on those who bought into it.
Gene Newton thanks all pumpers. Without your continuing support it would not be possible to pay the monthly overhead.
Hmmmmm.....does this qualify....LOL:
osted by: TwinTurbo Date: Thursday, February 05, 2009 9:58:33 AM
In reply to: dumar who wrote msg# 56033 Post # of 60061
.0003 YOU ARE KIDDING RIGHT??? HOW ABOUT $3.00+ THAT IS MORE LIKE IT!!! $$$$ TT
PS: There are thousands of pumps on the RCCH board...some more ridiculous than others but taken all together you could conclude there was alot of pumping going on but not much dumping because the PPS never went anywhere.
Nope....no comments from Newton on the O/S and especially not since he gagged the TA back in July 08.
"Who wants out"?
Since you asked....the mod I guess:
Posted by: YSUJosh Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009 1:19:03 PM
In reply to: None Post # of 60021
yay. sell: 517,677... wow. i had a 1.5 million sell order for like a week or two now. and finally i get to sell just over half. amazing...
You one of these buyers now?
Posted by: Striving for luck Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009 5:28:54 PM
In reply to: momo10 who wrote msg# 59889 Post # of 60015
If Gene needs money, he can call me up and I will help
So no need to wine cause we can buy the company and make our own run hahaha
Be patient and trust Gene, so do I
sfl
******************
Predict PR now from Gene saying "RCCH Engaged In Buyout Talks".
More than filing the RegD and the A/S increase some enity put the muscle on Gene to come clean about the uplisting of RCCH to a foreign exchange. I am sure he planned to milk this for many more months to come but was forced to put out that PR.
Since then the volume has been steadily droping and screwing up his plans to hand out more shares.
Gene wants to sell but he is having problems now finding buyers now that his "Uplist" has failed and increasing the A/S shows that the NSS he talked about was all BS to cover his
actions.
Perhaps he will announce that one of his secret China acquistions has discovered gold? That might work.
I meant to say he maxed it out at 5billion shares in Dec. and
can now run it up to 10billion.....
The sharestructure I-box is misleading and should say the
dates of the Authorized Share increases:
500 million
1 billion
2 billion
5 billion
10 billion
All in the last 12 months. This is the reason the PPS was
buried at .0001.
WOW my friend.....
Posted by: trent777 Date: Monday, February 11, 2008 11:43:56 AM
In reply to: Zoom-Zoom-Away who wrote msg# 4905 Post # of 59986
Filled at .07 happy with that am in LONG
Lots of pain but no gain. Gene Newton is creepy.
Some have bot into Gene's stories for nearly a year and have
been left with major losses. Some were buying repeatedly and
posted these buys as the PPS dropped hoping for a turnaround.
Posted by: trent777 Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:43:05 AM
In reply to: billiondollarman who wrote msg# 15371 Post # of 59985
Bought a lot more yesterday at .0055 but my worry with the pps was confirmed by the jump in O/S by over 50M.
If it goes to a better exchange I will be happy but if it just lists in Frankfurt I don't think it will be any help at all. Anyone have an inkling where they will list?
This now needs some decent PR,s to come out to give us loyal long term shareholders a bit of a bolster in confidence which I for one have lost a bit off with the recent update of O/S....IMO
NOW 8 months later the O/S has maxed out above 5billion shares and yet Gene has not been selling shares(?) and isn't a flim-flam man? Look at the buys made in 2008 and what was paid for them....now they are worth .0001. Look at the facts!
Would have lost an additional $8,000 if I had not sold.
Selling in May would have been advisable for many still here (from then)
who have seen their investment reduced by an additional 98%.
Talked enough to Gene to know he exaggerated everything he talked about and was essentially a flim-flam artist who wanted investors money to support his lifestyle.
It was amusing when some posters were so sure Gene would come out with a new PR explaining somehow that the PR of 2-05 had
left out some important details which would help the stock.
I was thinking he will say nothing since the PR said he would
be in touch with shareholders When and If a merger was made.
Be prepared for a long wait IMO.
Does anyone believe that Gene is flush with cash after raising the A/S to 10billion?
It's refreshing to hear that Gene Newton does not need the money from stock sales: 2:39PM EST Vol. $297.
People want out but there are no buyers apparently. If this
continues many longs will be stuck in the tar pits and must hold because them have no choice.
Lucky you he got me for about an $8,000 loss before I realized he was a con-artist. I figure investors have losses amounting
to about $1,200,000 thanks to him.....maybe more.
We agree that Gene has never lied to shareholders? He has always been a straight shooter? LOL.
"Up listing to an International exchange is on schedule. RCC Holdings Corp is moving forward on up listing as quickly as possible and according to all rules and regulations set fourth by International Law. Ergo information will only be released subject to theses rules and regulations."
Bait and switch. Gene throws out the bait of an intl uplisting and then sells approx. 5 billion shares into the story. Then comes the switch on Feb.5 when he retracts.
He got away with it for nearly 10 months. Then he kicked everyone when they were down and confirmed the A/S 10B.
Gene took a massive dump in 2008-2009, used gold spray paint,
sold it to investors who proudly proclaimed....Holden The Golden....now its stinking up their portfolios.
I checked Inv.Hub, Yahoo and Scottrade.....all reporting 4.5M in vol. for today??
Looks like yesterdays filing with the colo. sos has had a chilling effect on buyers today. There are not too many pinkies who can go over 5 billion shares and not simply die
and fade into obscurity.
Obviously Gene had NO CHOICE. The O/S exceeded the A/S of
5 billion shares probably back in Dec.08. Then he pulled a fast one and filed reducing it to 5billion and now we see that was an "error". I think he deliberately did this to buy more
time to sell shares to those he convinced he was uplisting and there was a huge NSS position.
Gene has dumped Eagle Poop all over the parking lot and will make excuses to any who will listen.
Key to any DD is understanding who your competitors are and how products compare as to price, quality and efficency. This board does not know what is going on in the real world with IWS and without knowing this then you have next to nothing and cannot understand your market.
If you believe Gene he has now wasted tens of thousands of dollars in fees to accountants, lawyers, auditors, advisers,
etc. in his failed attempt to "Uplist" to an Int'l Exchange.
In less than one year he has essentially ruined RCCH and he is not done yet regrettably.
The most important variable in making an investment in a company has to do with choosing Good Management. Gene's
record is dismal and IMO he could ruin even a company which was making money. He simply does not have the business skills to be successful and makes one mistake after another and I see
no chance he is going to change in the future. His promises
are worthless.
What do the 130 "Confirmed" believers in Gene Newton have to say
now that Gene has pulled the rug out from under them with the latest offical filing the colo.sos?
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=35634675
Looks like those "Holding the Golden" were bombared with Eagle poop despite their high expectations.
You might be here awhile sir. $450 traded today. Some will say it proves the longs are holding tight. Skeptical minds might say there ARE NO BUYERS.
Which is it? Has the door slammed shut on Gene's dumping plans already? Or is this just a temporary lull as longs gather their cash for another round of buying?