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fully reporting would certainly mean a full disclosure of all share structure. That would be in the K, not the q's...it would be found in the section titled "consolidated statement of stockholders equity,and comprehensive income", so anything that would effect that, (share issuance, income, share repurchases, etc)would be included there.Debt issuance would not be. Also, restricted shares ARE common shares issued with a restricted legend on them.
Also in the K is management salaries and total compensation.. can't wait to see that.
wack of shares probably in the form of warrants, this way they are only counted as shares in any per share calculation when they are in the money. I also believe that the upping of the issued and out is to make space for stock options for management.
actually, that was my way of saying it would be a very good thing if the company were to have a few independent board members. Looking back, the debt holders that negotiated to have them fully reporting by sometime in 07 might have been wise to get a board seat along with that promise.
All the stocks that ran post katrina will probably head down next time..
everyone??? hardly.
I either have or know of 12,900,000 that is not accounted for anywhere on the board. happy??
my buying and/or selling is based soley on technicals, since I have no SEC filings by which to complete my DD.
it was selling that killed the momo.
Posters should never be a positive for a stock or a negative, if you make investment decisions by what you read in here without checking it out yourself, you deserve what you get, which is an empty wallet.
I'll tell you what.. the company says it has a book value of 80 million, when the market recognizes that by having a PPS that gives the company that value, I will tell you I was an idiot and was totally wrong. Until then, I am merely translating for you what the market tells me. To answer your comment to that preemptively, If you want to read your own catscan or mri,you can do that also.
actually, if you look at my first post on the subject, POST 31767, and read the examples I gave I was referring to limit orders to buy below the ask, or sell above the bid. I did not 100% clearly say that, but if you read the examples, you will see that. I should have been more clear since the pumpers in here jump on everything I say as if it came from Bin Laden. Never did I say you should place market orders.
a lot less than I did before the run. If i see a good re-entry point, i'll reload.
if they have a 25% margin, which is a bit rich, but not by that much on 18 million in revs, thats about 13-14 million in development costs.costs that do not get recaptured until closing, and deduct from current earnings. I am sure it is a great investment for PBLS, not so much not so much in its current form as a holding company. Shareholders tend to want a steady earnings stream. I would spin off the construction companies to shareholders, which btw, would create a short position for the fails with no way to make money on it, since they shorted the spin off at zero... covering at any cost is a loss. I am just pointing out a way they can easily increase shareholder wealth.
brilliant....no, seriously... I mean it.. so why have an IR guy that constantly blames the NSS? I think your quote should be the attitude of the IR department.
whirl.. you should be able to buy any stock with a market order at any brokerage firm. I am shocked that you can't place a market order.
there is most likely a bunch of fails. That is why a quarterly cash dividend would be a hoot and a half. The effects of that would likely make news. The fails and shorts would have to deliver the dividends, thus costing them a fortune.. better yet, start with a major 1 time dividend, then do a quarterly. Complaining about the fails day after day is meaningles when they suppossedly have the cash to do something about it. Gagging the TA is also protecting the fails to some extent, since ungagging would give a good idea of what the fails # is.
they don't let you place a market order??? That really is very surprising to me. Although I never used any of those firms.
no, you can buy pink sheets at market anywhere.
I was telling you that in order to have your orders reflected, and to find a MM that WILL NOT trade against your order, that would be what you need to do. I misinterpreted your question.
according to the people in here I am the B and the S...
thats why I brought up the holding company value stuff a few days ago. they should spin off all the long term wait for profit companies.
actually, I would find a firm that has a retail presence (not a wholesaler like nite or others) that makes market in pbls, or would be willing to do so. Find out if they would reflect your orders, which, btw, my firm would do that for all customers, in the stocks they trade, even pinks. They do not trade pbls, but would if I asked. If they would reflect your orders, I would say you should all transfer your shares to that broker.
don't be so sure about that.. I was hoping it would hold at .015 , but i am not betting on it. Just a feeling...
Now, I know you are all going to beat the crap out of me for this, but I do not like this real estate deal for the simple reason that the profits do not come for a few years, and the investment needed to get to that point will put a damper on current earnings. If they need 10 million to spuce it up, etc, then get sales and profits later on, thats a 10 million hit to earnings, which will be recouped later on, but tthemarket generally doessnt li that. A spin-off of the construction/real estatecompanies would be advised.
Of course, very few of you would be willng to discuss this reasonably, and will continue to ramble on with ur personal attacks on me.
no one in here may agree with me, but the market evidently does, as evidenced by its 80% discount to what the company claims its book value to be.
does the same hold for the company who hasn't provided proof?
the nyse plans to do that... that wasn't voluntary...
you need to understand why the foreign companies are listed in the pinks.All of those companies trade on major exchanges overseas. It is where there are generally 1 or 2 market makers that specialize in trading foreign exchanges list those stocks. These are companies that do not care to have adr's or do not care to have them on the NYSE. Have you ever bought a foreign stock that doesn't have an adr? trust me, it is a nightmare as far as clearing firms go, and most of the time you can't even buy them unless you are institutional.. they hate having to carry those and will charge you big time to do so.
There are no excessive costs to be listed on an exchange. Please Tell me one company that left an exchange by their own decision to trade on the pinks. Going private is a different story.
What is "merging down"? I am unfamiliar with that term.
Quotated?????
I also do not care if it trades on Mars if they get their SEC filings done. My point is that this pinkselite whatever it is is just the pinks trying to gain market share.
just because you do not like what I say does not make me wrong. I know that you only wish to hear things that reinforce your opinion of the company. grow up.
hershey=hsy on the NYSE
Nestle's main trading is on a foreign exchange (zurich), since it is a foreign company and doesnt trade as an ADR on a major exchange, so there is a 3rd market maker in the stock
Husqvarva- again trades mainly on a foreign exchange. NO ADR's listed on an exchange
illinois power -stock you refer to is a cumulative preferred 4.20% share, IPCHO and trades by appointment.
Nintendo and JSC MMC Norilsk Nickel, Swede Bank also trade mainly on a foreign exchange and you can buy the ADR's on the pinks, if you cannot buy them directly from the foreign exchange it normally trades at, as is the case with many foreign companies that do not have their ADR's listed with a major exchange.
this pink sheet elite is an attempt by the pinks to steal or keep business from nasdaq.(pretty obvious) I cannot see why any company that is qualified to go to an exchange or nasdaq would chose to be on this pink elite. sarb-ox or not.. it'll be a tough go, they are going against a giant or two.
BTW, any mention of market makers being required to reflect all customer bids?
much better than buying too late.
then I am certain they used the exemption that did not require any notification.
the .016 print was reported after the close, by a few seconds, and it is considered a late print.
for pinks, that is the # of shares short at the trading desk of the member firms, or the member firm's own account(s) only.
yep, and all of these excemptions require the filing of SEC forms in order to get the expemtion, which of course would show up on the SEC website once filed. nice find btw.
It appears that the pinks are trying to get a little more credibility by stratifying their listings, something like nasdaq vs nasdaq NMS.
in that rule, if a company does not file they are sent to the pinks, which is of course where they already are. It is a moot point.
you dont need to subscribe, you can get all that at www.sec.gov
PA's and family stock is more than likely restricted.
so thats 1/8th of the issued and out? 1/4 of what the company says is free trading and not restricted??? your group needs to file a 13-d with the SEC.
I cannot supply you to a link to give you my 20+ years of experience in the brokerage industry. Just as you cannot give me a link so I can gain all the knowledge you have amassed in your area of expertise.
Thats why in a job app they check your past, closely...I hope you are holding for a long time because you want to, not because you have to
that is basically corrrect. It is a huge catch -22. Thats is why there are so many damn pink sheet stocks. Being in the pinks is more like sitting in the penalty box as opposed to being allowed to do whatever you want. If you want back in, you need to play by the rules. there may be instances where they could file all the other forms that they should have filed at the same time as the k's and q's to become compliant. Whether the SEC accepts that or not without sanctions/fines, etc. is another issue.
The logic is that the SEC does not want its reporting companies to report that they have not been compliant with SEC regulations.
what is unethical about knowing SEC regulations? Look, this company has gagged the TA, and doesn't file financials, and I am the bad guy??? I am sorry you think I am deliberately trying to burst your bubble.
They have to adhere to SEC regulations for the period of time that their filings cover. So, if they have to file for the past 3 years, those 3 years must show their compliance to SEC regulations. They are considered as filing not on the day they file, but for the period of time that the filings cover.
Why do you think the SEC requires 3 years of 10-k's and q's?