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Thanks for sharing
Happy thanksgiving
Thank you for sharing Mountain
… also, happy thanksgiving everyone
GLTA
& Cheers to forward momentum :)
Great news! Thanks for sharing
No. I don’t feel like that.
I hope everyone had a fun Halloween
… at least it’s heading in the right direction
Woohoo …. Some one awhile back posted about a seemingly random share trade of 500,000 shares … maybe things are turning around ….
It’s been a bumpy rough ride (cringe)
However … Here’s to Green Days ;)
Personally I choose calm when I’m able …
Unfortunately, I’m just terribly misunderstood on this banter based space.. as a shareholder in an extremely public forum I’m making my best efforts to be optimistic AND question various conspiracies etc. … when things initially were getting ugly on this chat threat I emailed the company to ask them directly what was up … subsequently I shared what I learned - in earnest mind you, I shared … and then because we ALL had further questions another CC was had where it was encouraged to send in questions ….
Ultimately… it’s up to one’s own choosing if they believe in the answers they are given or they don’t …
While I’m most certainly not happy with the current sp … I’ve sat at looked pragmatically at how we got here .. now it’s my choice to be calm … as in my opinion it beats the alternative…. I have enough going on that I don’t care to spend my day enraged in a hyperbole.
I still truly believe there can be an upswing .. that’s my choice .. I’m holding shares as at this point selling would be foolish on my own part for my current standing.
Shoondale your not the first nor probably not the last to think I’m unbelievable - unbelievable in that I’m truly and definitely a person who errs to optimism when I can see the choices and alternatives before me and optimism is a better choice. So I choose it .. “thoughts are things” …
We cannot all possibly believe by solely bashing for months that it could possibly have a positive effect …
Anyways … every one should do their own DD … and everyone has their right to an opinion…. For what it’s worth I myself find the Mikaelians to be working in earnest … I do NOT see this as an easy hold … it’s been a long long long spiral…. And yet even with seemingly Murphy law against them they have not given up - I find that admirable
GLTA and follow your gut along with factual DD (not theories born of anger)
Everyone has to do what’s right for them
Myself, I like the products, and I really like the science …. It’s my hope they finally get the connections and then subsequently prosperity follows ….
Is it a dream to say all that? Perhaps … but many a wildly successful company have risen from what seems like the ashes on its final hour
I’m tired and going to say good night to all here on this chat…. I hope everyone gets a good night sleep GLTA & good night
I’ve only posted articles & links that can be checked and found by anyone
NOT related … like others on this board just a long holder …. And since I have shares, it’s not a shock to imagine why I hope for the science / products I am invested in will regain traction.
I use the products and like them … the science i find extremely intriguing…
Am I happy with the current Sp? No! Prett safe bet no one is … but here we are ..
So, as an investor I choose my own actions and I choose to continue to look at all things I know, what is fact versus fiction versus conspiracy etc. …
In the mean time I’m waiting like everyone else who is holding
I personally use their products.. they are not fiction they are physically in my home and work as described / advertised
The muscle when applied on an awful knot mid back near scapula it worked wonders something normally that would take more time and or massage and pressure to release … the immunipen has been instrumental in keeping my immune system healthy
Relax … no one is justifying anything other than originally you posted a name saying it was familiar… I googled and a plethora of tom Nelson’s popped up …
Ultimately, there’s been No smoking gun, no shred of facts or evidence to prove fraud …. All that has been shown is a series of unfortunate events and lots of shareholders who assumed and hoped that the fda was a shoe in … then the fda push back along with the packaging delay functions canceled due to Covid social distance rules in Los Angeles etc etc ..
We are ALL waiting … and I poked fun at the crazy commonality of Tom Nelson. I grew up with a lot kids with son last names
Johnson Thomson Nelson Anderson etc
If the cel phone is the same then that’s diff
Initially it was posted as “sounded familiar”
Anyways, on a more somber note … Covid is rearing it’s ugly head again… any one read about the congressman’s daughter that died? Here’s an excerpt below
[{“Casten’s “healthy 2022 teenager” was preparing to start her freshman year at the University of Vermont. The family said she was “fully vaccinated,” and had tested positive for COVID multiple times in the months leading up to her death, but did not experience any symptoms.”}]
It’s Just terribly sad …. Stay healthy everyone.
GLTA
“Proven” ???!!!
No evidence has been put forth that shows that …. I’m not talking about theory and assumptions… nor am I talking about frustration or irritation…
Facts and evidence of such have not been offered up by anyone …
I’m with penny in that folks are innocent until proven guilty
I went to HS with a Tom Nelson too
That’s why for kicks I googled how many people in the US are named Tom .. apparently a lot lol
Being the same guy, if he’s the same guy, he’s only just sharing what was given to him to share.. that’s what companies paid him to do .. if one of his clients like the one you mentioned gave him (found out later to be questionable) info that he shared it … doesn’t mean he himself “pushes bad info” purposely.
I do appreciate your taking note of whose who in articles …
I myself also like to read up on the whose who … the science is fascinating
How do you know it’s the same Tom
When the estimated population of people named TOM is 83,592?
I’m not being ridiculous either…
His name is ridiculously common both first and last names both very common.
The article was and is valid for the point I was quoting and making … period
Otherwise, yes, might be “old news” but speaks to the time line.
As far as things not materializing quicker - qnta just like the Rest of us obviously wishes this played out differently…
Alas - here we are … so, I’m holding and hoping that the science in the end will prevail with perseverance to find its way
~~~~~~~~~
Here’s to hope
The age of the article isn’t relevant- it was used as a direct point against an argument stating / eluding to the notion that the fda did this as a punishment or karma or such .. which was silly … my point of sharing the article was SOLELY to show where the quote was taken stating the fda added new testing - showing factually indeed the fda indeed pushed back as I indicated
This was 100% the FDA adding things to ALL applicants to now have to hurdled - direct quote from the fda also mentions Covid specifically:
“Since adoption of COVID-19 vaccinations, the FDA altered its protocol for measuring toxicology to include studying it at the DNA level. As this is a newer development, the agency has asked Medolife to provide data in this regard.”
https://www.biospace.com/article/releases/fda-accepts-covid-19-clinical-study-and-advises-on-next-steps-for-pre-ind-filing-by-medolife-rx/
I understand completely
I don’t personally have all the specifics.. and like you the reasons I invested were several … it was my understanding, from what was shown in the last cc anyways .. the indoor facility was started … but paused (?) … what it’s current status this moment I cannot say as I do not know …
However, when the stock began to drop they were at least prudent to pause things.
The outdoor scorpion ranch is still going - the indoor one will be great too but it’s not that they don’t have supply .. the indoor will help increase the supply.
The fda push back I think was the unfortunate glitch no one expected..
Also ANYTHING Covid related immediately and I feel unfairly was scrutinized heavily (unless your name rhymes with “Mizer” that is (insert eye roll here )
I wasn’t joking in my other post earlier … I’m going to set the phone down and clean a closet or 2 … and focus on what I have control over today ..
As I’ve said before - if / when I hear anything or come across an article that I feel is relevant- if it hadn’t been shared by another already I’ll gladly share any news that comes my way
GLTA
I like the products, however it’s my understanding their existence was for “proof of concept”. As I recalled that being said more than once … so I googled really quick just now to check my memory
I found the below quote, and will paste link under the quote .. Ultimately I know My positive outlook irks some folks … but I’m still hopeful qnta will prevail in one way or another with positive outcome.
Here’s the quote and source link ;
[{ “Proof of Concept
Creating, producing and selling consumer products was never our primary focus; Quanta's Muscle Rub was simply a means to an end - proof of concept and a revenue driver in a small emerging market as our business model took shape. Fundamentally, Quanta will be a licensing concern designed to collaborate with large brands to improve product quality and the profit margins of existing and new products. But the market needed proof and we chose to start in the under-developed category of CBD because of its speed to market.” }]
https://www.marketscreener.com/amp/quote/stock/QUANTA-120797064/news/QUANTA-INC-Management-s-Discussion-and-Analysis-of-Financial-Condition-and-Results-of-Operations--37106076/
I hope it’s legit… I have their products in my home and use them, and like the results, and would very much like to continue using the immunipen & muscle rub… As far as business news - I do not have any new news to share … as last I heard there wasn’t anything newsworthy to share just yet.
In the mean time, I’m trying to focus on cleaning out some closets today …
I’ve been avoiding this task long enough ..
I have a bag started for donation and a bag for the recycling & garbage cans
GLTA
https://www.themodernmanifestation.com/amp/3-areas-you-need-to-declutter-to-manifest-money
I never checked, NOW I did … the address every one is screaming about is NOT a home … my bad, I should have verified before entering the arguments.. ultimately there’s nothing wrong with a home office as it’s definitely more inexpensive than rent however with a quick Google map check this does NOT look like home address
https://maps.app.goo.gl/zgcehaBirHcUct8n8?g_st=ic
Medolife Rx Headquarters
632 S Glenwood Place,
Burbank, CA, 91506
Address above found on https://medoliferx.com/contact/
Have a good evening Shoondale
This is a silly argument
Get an office randomly in Mississippi?
… Burbank is not lavish
The key word is “if”
[{“if they are guilty”}]
They’ve maintained they are not guilty
…. Which I hope is the case - “not guilty”
In the meantime… storm is brewing outside … I’ve expressed before but I’ll say it again, the storm surge and flooding they expect might be awful - I hope all on the east coast fare well in this storm
This is rediculous … look at a map and or visit Southern California. NOTHING is “minutes from the beach” in LA traffic
Clearly thinking Burbank is “near the beach” means you are not even remotely familiar with the San Fernando valley
People all of the country have home offices. This is of no concern
“What qualifies as a home office for tax purposes?
To claim the home office deduction on their 2021 tax return, taxpayers generally must exclusively and regularly use part of their home or a separate structure on their property as their primary place of business.Jan 19, 2022”
My point of going silent was simply thus
If my posts are constantly getting deleted and I’m constantly being accused of things and or attacked verbally - why would I want to continue a dialogue?
As for where qnta gets the mail - I seriously don’t understand the problem as every entity needs to get the mail some where AND the address DL is yelling about was in place when I first began investing ..
It’s a moot point in my opinion…
As for qnta being silent, while yes I’d too love to have new news … but if they said something like - it’s taking longer than we hoped - folks would be angry at that too.
Pretty much what I’ve read from various rants is all speculation on what they assume is happening ….
I’m invested as such it would be horrific to loose and have it go to zero … I’m kicking myself for Not staying diversified… HOWEVER, I was aware of the stock market and it’s risks and now here we are … am I happy? No, not with the current share price …. I do honestly like the products and science and I find the Mikaelians to be honest and sincere - their hearts are in this for almost 2 decades of research … the reality is one just doesn’t get pharma approved over night … the added fda test was a curveball on top of all the Covid related mess ….
In the meantime. Like everyone else. I’m waiting ….
If though anyone has billionaire friends who might like to invest in escozine I’m sure qnta would hear them out … but the reality is - there simply aren’t a line of billionaires standing around ready for asking …. We are not talking about ordering a pizza … unless everyone else had deep pockets investors in speed dial then by all means call them up
I’m simply an investor who joined this forum a year and half ago because no one had the link to the spring CC and since I had the link - i emailed the company and asked - I then joined iHub and shared said link and instead of just reading iHub posts I joined the discussion….
I’m not even sure why I’m replying today as it’ll get deleted anyways I’m sure
But, like I said. I’ll share new news should I come across it before any one else …
In the meantime- try the products if you haven’t. As they really do work
When did the Mikaelians ever brag about month king vacations and going to the beach?? I’m super confused
I know I’ve posted about myself going on a trip and to the beach. … which I love driving distance from the beach so it’s easy to do … and a month long trip was well planned while our kid was out of school and spouse had vacation ..
As for folks complaining and insinuating the Mikaelians are on vacations… I must have missed when that was disclosed.
First of all the PRODUCTS are assembled in clean certified laboratories… the venom is sourced in the DR (not on site).
Ultimately The location your freaking out about is NOT a shopping destination like a department store … it’s Southern California- hello?!! The real estate prices are ridiculous - who cares where the mail gets delivered … I’d prefer a office space that took little to no money leaving revenue and investor money to go toward moving trials forward. I can guarantee any and all clinical trials are done in a clinical setting - leaving the desk top location of Dr Mikaelians computer irrelevant.
How many people during Covid found themselves working from home? How many offices are now ghost towns because of the plethora of people who never returned to the offices?
So many people work from home as the bulk of work is done online, on the phone or on location elsewhere like a lab or medical location.
Because finances are clearly a concern why in the world would any one want them sitting in a lavish over priced property when literally most things today can be done with wifi and a lap top
I’m down 99. .. something percent
But what good is selling ? For myself that is. If I sell then I’m literally out every thing.. so … I’m hoping new connections are being made and forward momentum can return
I hope things come together like everyone else … there were several on this board long before I ever knew what iHub was who had so much DD … I read all the promising posts by OTHERS then joined this group …. While I’m saddened the sp is where it’s at right now … the last years series of events were definitely unfortunate…. I’m hoping that some thing good will emerge from the current status
Exactly?!! Why on earth do such a move?
Mountain, Many of us on this board have long term investments … that action would affect ALL of us.
Seems counter intuitive and vindictive
Ultimately… it is my understanding they are definitely doing things right now that are in line with goals set forth before …
Unfortunately, not just with them, but the entire global market, the business world at large globally speaking is a mess …
With that, just because there is a delay - doesn’t mean the delay is on them specifically - when working deals with other entities you then must be at the mercy of the time table of the folks with whom you are dealing ..
An example is the following
Years ago my dad worked on a project that was for a states govt … they could not go forward with advancing / building of the computer system (software?? Don’t recall what but not the point )
They needed an answer from the state before being able to move fwd with the project. Now as a small dynamic computer company the answer from the state was crucial to move the project along as there was still a lot of work to do - (and eventually they wanted obviously to get paid .. and that occurred upon completion of project) … the state however was all govt paid employees with lots of other things on their plate - and getting back to the computer company with an answer was low on their concerns list- as financially it didn’t affect themselves, so no hurry made … FINALLY my dad was able to hold a meeting at the state - as the computer company was of course eager to get the answers needed …
Meeting was taking place (finally) and of course lo and behold one member of the state committee wasn’t present - sooo the board said ummm sorry guess we will get back to you next month when we reconvene. UGH!!! ummm no not ok …
My dad who had worked with military and govt Before pushed back - and said no one is leaving this room till we get an answer (it was literally something simple too. Like a color for example - but at that juncture needed a decision before moving fwd ) I think they may have Finally yielded and called the person as my dad was able to explain the project could not continue to be worked on with out the specific info he was requesting… point being - that was not a unique story in business- except the unique part was my dad got an answer after waiting a month versus many months …. Bottom line large entities move at their own s l o w speeds
The moral and my point … little guys (small companies) with big ideas (but small pockets) will indeed struggle GREATLY when waiting on deal making with those who have big pockets and no time line to worry about
On a side note, imagine a pawn shop in a very HIGH END expensive neighborhood… you’d be surprised as to The who that utilized services … why “rich folks used” BECAUSE of time lines …. Lawyers pawned expensive cars to make payroll while waiting on a case to close for example, movie industry types pawned things while getting funding going for a film … etc lots of examples…
Anyways
Things are not always as they seem
Do I personally know how qnta spends every waking moment? No … Do I think they are lounging on vacation though? Definitely NOT … there has been a huge whittling down of personnel in order to minimize costs … but the efforts to get to the goals has not wavered (all imo and from what has been observed and said publicly that is )
Ultimately I could literally lose everything if they go bust … Or, with time, long waited obstacles get hurdled and success will once again be more obvious and in sight and ultimately achieved.
In the meantime, as an investor I can only do what’s within my own control. And how I react and subsequently act is one of the things that I Am able to control … so I continue to watch for news, try the products, look for articles to familiarize my self about the science etc …
I’ve relooked several times at the prudent steps taken, mergers, etc and like a dot to dot puzzle when one steps back the steps all make sense …. What I’m hopeful for is that another entity / or person can help propel them to the finish line …. I believe it’s possible… but since literally everyone is down in stocks and investors are leery with the entire planet being a little out sorts these days (global politics / war threats etc global finance inflation recession etc etc ) they are up against a huge challenge… but I say challenge NOT impossibility…. As I believe where there’s a Will there is a way
So again… I ponder the “what” I’m invested in … I wonder how I ended up still hanging on … and the conclusion for me personally is I simple, I still believe - in the science and in their goals … now, many who are day traders waiting isn’t fun nor part of their plans and I respect that - everyone needs to do what’s best for themselves when it comes to investing and finances
This is a penny stock, high risk, very speculative, very much like the weather - change can happen fast
There are a lot of penny stocks and many if not most dare I consider probably Never amount to anything…. This “could” go to zero … Orrrrrrr the perseverance pays off and with time deals come to fruition and we all prosper.
Obviously I’m hoping for the latter.
If I hear anything concrete or see a pr or get an email before anyone else sees news and posts before me - obviously I try and post it asap
In the meantime it’s a beautiful fall day and I’m choosing to spend time away from the screen for awhile and breath in some fresh outdoor air for awhile
GLTA
Understood
I’m just a customer & investor
If you have not tried the products I highly suggest you do. And maybe get multiple items to give as gifts … the more people who try the products will inevitably create more customers… as we are all invested more customers equates to good news for the company
GLTA
I never said they are the same
It was an analogy - an example
Also, I find it extremely hard to believe tech support at Apple is divulging investor deals ….
ULTIMATELY companies will never divulge a deal until it’s done as it’s not good business for any parties involved…
GLTA
Question, have you tried the products?
They work well
They will not however discuss things BEFORE they are allowed to discuss.. and it was an “example” …. Talking to you about upgrading and processing issues is a far cry different than disclosing something that has yet to be announced publicly .. that was my point
Food for thought…
When folks complaining about not getting information. … here’s an exercise (as an example) - try to talk to any Apple employee and see if one can get ANY information new or updated products that haven’t been released yet.
…Ultimately any and every company out there will NOT share news until it’s factual
GLTA