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Please show me proof (other than from the OSC allegations papers that is)that Sulja Bros Building Supplies LTD Ontario is not part of Sulja Bros Building Supplies Ltd Nevada.
Thank you.
I take it you only read 1/2 of my post...that's OK. Read the rest of it also and you will better understand what I meant, which was in no way that I have been defrauded here. In fact at this particular juncture, entirely the opposite, imo.
Also-
Never put words into my mouth. Play nice, or not at all. Either way is fine by me.
Thank you.
The conflict of interest arises due to the fact that Steve Sulja is/was CEO of Sulja Bros Building Supplies Ltd., a company that inferred to investors that they are/were a viable public company. The investors bought into that company as such. If it wasn't as stated, then that dictates fraud, which is a felony on both sides of the border. This would apply to all officers who knowingly participated, not just PV (OSC and Windsor Star blunder #1).....Steve himself released many PR's if we all remmber.... If he continues on as officer of any company conducting like business without continuing daily operations of Sulja Bros Building Supplies LTD the public company, then that is a classic example of conflict of interest/self dealing, which in turn can again lead directly to misappropriation/fraud, depending upon the full scope of circumstances.
However---
With ITCCT in Livonia MI doing almost $3M in DOD contracts alone in 2008, and International Door virtually matching it in total sales figures out of the 1170 Erie location alone, and not knowing the exact details of the current Sulja operations other than the D&B report that states $7.2M in 2008, one would have to suspect that things simply aren't as gloomy as some here would have us all believe, no matter what kind of smoke and mirrors they project 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week.
One way or the other, this is all going to come to light soon, no question about it.
I will continue to hold and see it thru. JMHO. GLTALongs.
Have you ever heard the terms "conflict of interest" or "self dealing"? Sure you have...
ITCCT sells large qualities of PLYWOOD and LUMBER, along with other products, to DOD installations in Europe.
Steve Sulja is also CEO of International Building Products, and International Venture CCT Inc, along with being CEO of Sulja Bros Building Supplies Ltd. Also has "intimate associations" (lol) with International Door Co Ltd, which happens to operate out of the same 1170 Erie St address that Sulja Bros Building Supplies Ltd. does in Harrow Ontario.
Make no mistake if Steve Sulja was found to have committed any crime here, assets from any and all above could potentially be frozen and in fact should have been already if allegations were made. And if this was the case, I'm certain the OSC would have landed him right next to PV already. But they have not...and Steve continues to do business on many fronts.
So...
Given the fact that this stock continues to trade after more than two years of OSC CTO (Cease Trading Order), and also that it in fact is actually GAINING, tells me that I made the right choice when I decided to hold all shares. It will be most enjoyable watching this grow in the future.
I also noticed that the OSC dropped all allegations against Sulja Ontario, the only branch of the Sulja Bros Building Supplies LTD firm that the OSC or ASC would have any jurisdiction over.....I thought that was also very interesting.
JMHO GLTALongs.
Correction: it is not a big difference between the two. ITCCT is an international retailer and wholesaler, they do not discriminate as to who buys from them; Sulja Bros is the same, they sell wholesale and retail to contractors and end users as well. Plus, they both sell building materials. It would never hold water with any regulatory agency or court to say that they are not like businesses.
And Steve Sulja never told you any such thing to the contrary.
JMHO GLTALongs
"Even if you are on the right track, you will still get run over if you just sit there."
Sorry, but there isn't a brokerage anywhere that will work for 5% gross. Ludicrous. Average industry margins are anywhere from 10 to as much as 30%. Being that ITCCT is a DOD contractor, I would concede that the margins are probably on the lower end of that 10-30, but he is making at least 10-15% IMHO, thus your numbers are a bit "shy". Try double or tripling them for a more accurate presentation.
And, considering it is LIKE business that Steve is conducting, (selling commodities-- ie:lumber and plywood, same as SLJB) then of course he and his counsel knows that that all can be attached, (and in turn he can be disgorged) if he is found guilty of any wrong doing---to the tune of 1-1.5M at least.
I would think that there is a method to the madness here---the ever present shark pack has been circling here and on every "owned" messageboard for better than two years now. Why? Bigger question is, who pays them to do so?
Thankfully it is all documented regardless.
We'll see.
JMO. GLTALongs
What allegations? You mean there are still allegations? Where? What a farce is more like it! Last I heard it was pushed back so far now it has almost fallen off the horizon, LOL.
Plenty of time available on the docket up there in east Molsonville for them to continue on forthwith, moreso also seeing as they have been dragging this on for so many months to begin with...bunch of BS there,IMHO....blatant...they suddenly NOW choose not to continue on as they have been,(with the continuances every couple of months) but rather shelve it for over another year+, hoping everyone will simply forget about it and go away? Ahhh, no, sorry, that is not going to cut it, and some of us will never forget our investments, nevermind go away.
Big dollars certainly. Mega dollars possibly. Simply way too many sharks still swimming in this pond after two + years for it not to be lined with pure gold, the way I see it.
We'll see soon enough. JMHO. GLTALongs.
"Even if you are on the right track, you will still get run over if you just sit there."
According to Thomson Financial Loftwerks ACQUIRED Sulja Bros, so you are correct in that we can assume that there was never a "Merger". More like hostile takeover by the sounds. Public info tho, look it up and pay for it like others did.
Dunno about completed cement contracts as there is no verifiable company info on that as yet, but the company publically PR'd that they have them. This has not been denounced by any regulatory agency, but rather only by the bash crews.. Funny thing also but Dun and Bradstreet collaborate the PR's---and state that as of June 2008 SLJB had revs of near 7.2M. Hmmmmm. Again, public info, look it up.
Now--Show me a DIRECT quote in the Windsor Star article from Steve Sulja. Not a "wannabee" quote fab'd by Gary Rennie, but a DIRECT quote from Steve Sulja. More than one source has publically stated that the entire article, along with all other defamatory articles from Rennie, are bogus. Spin the wheel.. Whom to believe? As always however, there are two sides to every story.
Another interesting tidbit is the fact that for a company that supposedly has nothing, funny but the CEO of SLJB opened ITCCT with no issues and then is immediately doing millions of dollars in DOD contracts and Steve is flying back and forth to Germany and other parts of Europe for on-site bidding. Hmmmm. Doesn't sound like a broken down, poor, numbnut farmboy with no education or business sense to me, as others would have us all believe. Many local businessmen have repeatedly stated that Steve Sulja is a VERY intelligent fellow and businessman. Make no mistake too that any LIKE business conducted by Steve Sulja is considered a conflict of interest/self dealing in both the USA and Canada and can lead directly to felony charges of misappropriation and fraud quite easily, and disgorgement of all assets to benefit SLJB shareholders could also happen, just as it could for PV and IBP Michigan, Kore International, and any other business he runs/owns. His/their counsels know this, as do they. So we can readily assume that SLJB is tied in in some way, common sense dictates this.
The OSC doesn't "shelve" anything for over a year either once the proceedings are fully underway and hearings have commenced in earnest. This thing is way bigger than many know IMHO. Too many big name connections behind the scenes, full squadron of bashers running rampant on multiple boards deleting any positive sentiment for two+ years, etc etc etc.. I dunno about anyone else, but I'm holding this one till we know the full story.
I do also believe that transparency is near.
So...
"We'll see".
JMHO. GLTALongs.
"Even if you are on the right track, you will still get run over if you just sit there."
Now why would anyone hope for the company to go belly up when there are still many loyal shareholders holding it?
Just because YOU SOLD due to FUD,(or whatever) doesn't mean that everyone should lose everything. That seems more than a bit selfish, doesn't it?
IF (and that is still a very big IF after two+ years now of you all claiming they will be revoked... yet they are not and to this day there is STILL no-one in jail from the company) the principles are found guilty of anything, then they should pay the price unquestionably, however there is no reason whatsoever for you or anyone else to ever wish that the remaining longs lose everything too.
JMHO
Everyone says SLJB/Loftwerks is dead, Ammerman is also gone, etc., blah blah....
Well then, maybe they ought to read this:
http://tinyurl.com/5fxzn4
Seems to me that things are still very much alive and continuing on with the original plan and profile.(albeit a bit underground maybe---gee I wonder why that would be.... maybe we ought to ask SHORTY that question... We can also ask why NITE and HDSN consistently take turns parked at .15 on the ask???)
COMPANY PROFILE
LoftWerks (LFWK.pk)is a leading provider in the emerging market trend of revitalizing formerly decayed and underutilized urban real estate. America’s inventory of historical buildings has sadly been left to decay…until recently. Several real estate developers have begun restoring these gems and are breathing life back into the classical city through these structures. LoftWerks is poised to become the industry leader in this field. The conversion from warehouse and office buildings into New York or Soho styled lofts is the first step towards real renaissance. LoftWerks believes it can play an integral role in helping first time homeowners in identifying, acquiring, and renovating loft spaces in the top 100 media markets across the United States. Opportunities for urban retail and commercial expansion will follow as more people return to the heart of the City.
In addition to the construction services provided by LoftWerks, the company is launching several associated projects to promote the overall revitalized urban lifestyle. These include:
LoftWise Furnishings. The LoftWise product line will feature retail and catalog sales of furniture and fixtures specifically targeted at the new urban lifestyle. These cutting edge products will serve to enhance the unique living spaces created by converting warehouse or office buildings into urban living space. At present, there is no single source where urban pioneers can turn to for finding furnishings and fixtures specifically designed for use in converted loft spaces. The LoftWise line will streamline the search process, and should become the first choice when loft-owners seek unique solutions to decorating and furnishing their new spaces.
LoftWise Television Show. LoftWerks is in the process of launching a cutting-edge cable television series which will highlight the new urban lifestyle, and promote the type of restoration projects that the company is already completing. Intended for broadcast on the Home and Garden or DIY networks, LoftWise will feature profiles of completed urban revitalization projects, present interviews with industry leaders and innovators, highlight furnishings, fixtures, and decorating ideas uniquely suited for loft living, and present “how-to” restoration and construction techniques.
Completed and Ongoing Projects: The following is a partial listing of projects begun or completed by the LoftWerks team:
• Landsberg Lofts North. Detroit, Michigan. 8 units. Purchased for 460K. Appraised value prior to construction 750K. Construction costs 650K. Estimated value after construction 2.1M.
• Milwaukee Junction. Detroit, Michigan. New construction. 52 Brownstone units. 14,000 sq retail space.
• Ambrose Lofts. Nashville, Tennessee. Joint Venture. 20 unit loft conversion. Total sale price $4.7M. Ground floor retail (occupied). 40% of project to LoftWerks.
• Doctor’s Building. Nashville, Tennessee. Approx. 50 units. Total sale price $15M. Ground floor office/retail (occupied).
• Mid-rise condominium project. Detroit, Michigan. New construction. Approx. 50 units. Total sale price $40M.
Management:
Dennis Ammerman. President and CEO. Founded LoftWerks in 1994. Supervises all aspects of construction, product development and procurement of working capital. Dennis has spent his life absorbing the trends of the past and using them as tools of prediction for how the American cultural climate is going to shift next. Although Dennis’ background includes ventures as diverse as asbestos remediation, importing of exotic sports cars, marketing for the Calgary Winter Olympics and notoriety as a national champion ice sculptor, today he is dedicated to the revitalization of metropolitan centers—urban living at its best.
Charles Loveman. Director. Former Senior City Planner for downtown Los Angeles. Lead Hollywood Equitable Building renovation and redevelopment project, the Old Bank District Loft housing project, and the Rowan Lofts project. Currently Loveman serves as Executive Director for Heritage Housing Partners.
Merrick Malone. Director. Former Washington D.C. Deputy Mayor for Economic Development and Director of Housing and Community Development. He spearheaded the management team that constructed the MCI Sports Arena. Executive advisor for BET Television Corporate Offices and Studios. Currently a principal at Metropolis Development Company, based in D.C., which focuses on new and existing solutions for urban mixed use residential and retail projects.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. A little underground action for a couple of years, then viola, open up one sunny day with financials and PR's of everything that has happened over that time, plus what is going on currently along with what is to come in the future.....Mount ST. Helens wouldn't hold a candle to it, IMHO.
We'll see......Good luck to all Longs.
OK, here's a little bit of the older info to start:
http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bcs_corp/dt_....G%20PRODUCTS%20(MICHIGAN)%20INC.
Notice who the resident agent is? Dennis Ammerman. Automatic dissolution right about the time Sulja/Loftwerks/Loftworks LLC etc were talking about merger/acquisition.
Now this:
http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bcs_corp/dt_....ICHIGAN,%20INC.
Same name different spelling.
Whois:
http://www.whois.ws/whois-com/ip-address/ibpmichigan.com/
Dave Williamson and Brian Coates. Both connected PV guys.
More:
http://smallbusiness.dnb.com/webapp/wcs/....554&busName=IBP+michigan&city=&address=&country=US&zipCode=#goTop
Notice IBP Michigan at the Lincoln Park address which is the SAME addy as Sulja Bros:
http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bcs_corp/dt_....PPLIES,%20LT D.
And the IBP International Building Products at the 6544 BEAUBIEN ST address which originally was Loftwerks and Loftworks LLC:
http://smallbusiness.dnb.com/webapp/wcs/....sName=Loftwerks+&city=&address=&country=US&zipCode=#goTop
Now this:
http://smallbusiness.dnb.com/webapp/wcs/....&busName=Steven+Sulja&city=&address=&country=US&zipCode=#goTop
Notice where it says Also Traded as Steven Sulja???!!
Who just happens to have a couple of other LIKE BUSINESS entities running in Michigan also:
http://smallbusiness.dnb.com/webapp/wcs/....5&busName=Steve+Sulja&city=&address=&country=US&zipCode=#goTop
And of course:
http://www.alacrastore.com/company-snaps....ies_Ltd-3731934
Notice the same Beaubien St address as well as the website address, which is Loftwerks.
There was more info found also which stated that Sulja was acquired by Loftwerks and not vice versa, but for some reason that link no longer comes up. I do have the original copy however in my files, which I also forwarded to my counsel for future reference.
Steve Sulja, Dennis Ammerman, Petar V, Dave Williamson, and Brian Coates, are thus all connected above through like businesses and addresses. Any competent counsel can sift through these things and come to the same conclusion.
For the slow, that means that all of these businesses are indeed CONNECTED.
It goes far deeper than that too, with more entities now involved. International Trading CCT LLC and International Venture CCT for instance are two of them. There are more.
Loftwerks/Loftworks LLC is also alive, in multiple states. Dig and you will find.
Big name professionals connected here as well, internationally too. Again, do some DD and you will find them. I'm not going to give the detractors any more fuel here than I already have, so start digging longs...it's all out there.
Almost forgot--- one of the Dun and Bradstreet International Report links for Sulja:
http://tinyurl.com/6kmzue
Anyone can purchase it. Many companies offer them in fact.
As previously stated: "We shall see".
JMHO GLTALongs
There are no facts to back up your statement that SLJB is a dormant shell, just more hearsay. Post some direct links to proof beyond a shadow of doubt, and then we can talk further. I have done much DD that infers that altho very quiet at this time as directed by counsel, SLJB and it's subsidiaries are doing quite well. I have seen Dun and Bradstreet info that differs greatly from what you propose and in fact, info that can be purchased by anyone.
As officers of the company, both Steve and Leslie are bound by law to submit official statements/company letters to shareholders should they decide to step down. Of course shareholders always have a right to choose new officers and/or to protect their interests here, that is a no brainer, and just so you do know what's coming, counsel has in fact already been retained by some to get to the bottom of all of this.
Did anyone think shareholders were all going to sit around on our hands forever? I suppose they were hoping so.. The OSC made the choice very simple tho when they shelved the issue for another 14 months and hindered progress. Big no-no imo.. This has not been your average case since day one, any nimrod can see that there are alot of outside forces with their fingers in the pie here.
I mean really.... for instance one minute the price is .0003 X .01 and then the next it's .0003 X .005 with not a single sale in between?
LOL.
I have never seen this amount of dubbing before to this degree, ever.. the amount of games being played on this one is staggering. 24-7 for over 2 years????? Wow.
So, as previously stated....."we shall see"...
JMHO GLTALongs.
Please post the direct links to PR's and/or the company letters sent to shareholders that state that both of them have stepped down from their positions. Thank-you.
Fact is that neither can (or did) say "uh, nevermind, just kidding, I'm gonna go do something else now without OFFICIALLY stating so to shareholders of the PUBLIC company I'm a registered officer of". No way. They are bound by law.
So what it boils down to is that we're to believe messageboard hearsay as gospel, over common sense corporate business fundamentals/logic, and the law??
LOL.
We shall see.
JMHO GLTALongs
We shall soon see, won't we?
As stated, the OSC does not have the right to hinder, because they are not above the laws of the people and those laws are very specific. Their blatant shelving of this for an additional 14 months is in fact a hindrance to not only investors in Ontario, but to those outside of it as well, due to the many implications attached to such an order extension. They know it, you know it, we all know it.
I would suspect that the company will soon put out some sort of public statement now that the OSC has made such a move. If not, then it is up to shareholders to move of their own accord to protect their interests. I know for a fact that many will if necessary.
I will certainly agree with you in that the time has come for closure of this OSC issue.
JMHO GLTALongs
Best way is thru International counsel if you have the means to do so.I recommend Kirkland and Ellis, but I've heard Cravath, Swaine and Moore are very good also, with a high percentage 'winning' securities litigation record as well.
My take--
The OSC does not have the right to hinder, that's mistake #1. Mistake #2 would be if the company doesn't immediately become transparent now that the OSC has taken steps to shelve this for the foreseeable future. It is ultimately up to the company to quickly dispose of any doubt and/or to correct any mistakes made, and by doing so negate any further attempts to drag this on for eternity by any regulatory agency, or anyone else.
The long investors have invested not only alot of money but for some, two years+ of our lives as well....and thus will be holding for full valuation...They also will certainly be quickly pursuing other avenues of legal resolution should things not progress forward in a timely manner, now that the OSC has chosen their path.. 14 more months is not a timely manner, by any standard.
JMHO.
GLTA Longs.
Well MHart that is because Jan flip-flopped from promoter to detractor once he/she/it got scared and sold, as others did. Go back and read the posts over the years as it will help you get a grasp...
Can't have it both ways tho. (where have I heard that before? LOL) Steve Sulja, along with PV, Leslie, Devries, and the rest of the clan, are either ALL clean or dirty, no in between here. ALL were certainly in the thick of it, along with Ammerman, Meloche, Treisch, Khan, Coates, Sam, John, etc, etc, etc......
And thus ALL with either come thru this by getting things straightened out if clean, or they all will pay for their involvement if found dirty.... one way or the other, no grey area on this one.
The only ones who are crying at present tho are the ones who got scared and pushed the sell button of their own accord, long before the story was complete. No-one twisted their arm to do so.....unfortunately, one needs ballz in penny land...
The rest of us may be crying at the end too, but then again, maybe not...we simply do not know yet. No-one does except for maybe the principles and their counsel. They're not giving out any pertinent info however, no matter what anyone says.
Make no mistake, justice WILL be served. That you can be sure of. Again the question remaining is upon whom...
This one garnered far too much interest and monies invested for it to end any other way, no matter how long everyone drags their feet hoping for long term memory loss. Not going to happen here.
Thus, I think the 'right thing' will be done and loyal shareholders will be fine in the end. Not only does it save our azzes, but theirs as well. If it were me, I would be setting up as many contracts as possible, and getting solid, updated financials ready...but that's just me...
Those who sold early out of fear have my condolences. But ultimately that was their own decision and they cannot blame the company for that unless the company is found guilty of manipulation/fraud. And that hasn't happened. In fact the CEO is conducting LIKE business for the DOD as we speak....hmmmm...
Anyway....we will see....
GLTALongs.
JMHO.
Guess it's too bad for me then, because I don't buy it for a second.
JMHO.
Sandbath, um, er,'shark', lol. Unfortunately for some here who would love to see this stock fail, the fact of the matter is that no-one has been convicted of anything to date, nor charged with anything in the States, and in fact some of the allegations have been dropped in Ontario as well. So you simply cannot say with fact nor conviction that this is or was a pump and dump. No-one can. Not yet anyway.
IF it is found to be true, then I will certainly do what I can to see that justice is served along with all other shareholders, make no mistake there.
But, I will also give benefit of doubt until such justice has been served as well. Especially so when I own many shares of it and the company is mute following counsel's instructions, and thus solid info is virtually nonexistant.
Also make no mistake that IF I find that some of the 24-7 gang here have been BS-ing us all for nearly two years, I will do everything within my means to see that justice is served there as well, along with many other shareholders.
Spin the wheel.....
JMHO
And who exactly are you? Just another poster like me, that's who. Confirmation of ANYTHING needs to come directly from Steve himself, in an official company PR. Otherwise it's simply hearsay BS.
And Leslie is 'supposedly' no longer an officer cause she was 'supposedly' shown the door some time ago...(tho none of that was ever PR'd either, so probably more hooey...)
If so, how would she know what Steve does or does not do now?
Getting pretty deep around here if ya ask me.
JMHO.
You spoke with no-one this morning. If so then have Steve PR his intentions to all shareholders as CEO of SLJB, rather than just speak with you. That is his fiduciary duty anyway as CEO.
The OSC also has only slated an hour for the hearing this morning so chances are quite good that this will be continued again.
It seems that you are supposedly the only one that can get ahold of Steve and speak with him tho many others try to get him to speak. Everyone else that gets thru to him gets a "sorry, but I cannot comment on anything right now".
So one must ask-- why would he be speaking only with you, one who wants him behind bars and/or out of business?
He wouldn't.
JMHO
But remember also--naked shorting of stocks is indeed an illegal act, where scumbags try to steal your money in a very slimy way, and without you knowing about it.
So ya might as well put a gun to their head and rob them as it's basically the same thing. At least the robbers have ballz enough to look you in the eye while trying to fleece you,whereas naked shorters are nothing more than spineless cowards.
There is alot of "robbing" going on in the stock market daily using this tactic, make no mistake.
If someone on the street tries to rob me,(and is actually dumb enough to try) I will swiftly take their weapon away and plant it in their azz, thanks.
Likewise here. Someone is going to eventually end up paying big time ...
However...
The question remaining is...who?
I have a solid feeling that it won't be who you think. In fact as I recall, someone who tried to undermine the company is already in jail, yet no-one from the company is...
Hmmmm.
We'll find out soon enough, they cannot diddle this one forever up there in Canuckville.... I'll wait and hold all shares till the end.... Good luck to all longs. JMHO.
Gee, why would you want that if you are indeed a shareholder of the stock? Shouldn't you instead wish for a green light from the OSC and financials/transparency, and in turn a increased pps to follow? Wouldn't that make more sense?
Curious.
I would, but then I would have to submit you to the MIB mind eraser gizmo-thingy......
Nah, too much trouble....I'll save them for those who may benefit, thanks.
And I say BS. His lawyers would not allow that with him being CEO of a company under intense investigation.
If so, then why don't you have Mr. Sulja put out one last PR denouncing EVERYTHING, and also that he is stepping down as CEO? Doesn't make sense for him to still be CEO if it is such a sham and eventually seeing himself being dragged under the bulldozer. If it were me I would've stepped down a long time ago, IF it was such a bogus company/stock.
It's not however. That's why he is still there... and no-one is in jail except for those who have tried to undermine the company.
Enjoy your BS fest. It won't be going on for much longer.
JMHO
"Even if you are on the right track, you will still get run over if you just sit there."
Got lots of 'em. You?
LOL.
Problem for you there is the incorporated public SLJB stock of which Steve is CEO of is the stock we are talking about, thus it falls under USA jurisdiction being registered in Nevada.
And it certainly seems here (and especially according to Jannie) that IF he is indeed speaking to her, that he is indeed giving her all kinds of "material information". Don'tcha think?
JMHO.
OK let's try this answer again, edited for content:
Steve Sulja is not speaking with you, Jan, so please don't play shareholders for fools. Speaking directly to you at this point would be the most retarded thing Steve could ever do to date, and would also most certainly land him right in the pokey for doing so. You are not privvy to pertinent company info, and that's the bottom line here. If Steve is telling you such things in confidence, then he had better be pr-ing the exact same things to the rest of us, too.
JMHO.
"Even if you are on the right track, you will still get run over if you just sit there."
And you as well. Yes, it's been a very long road.
MHart it doesn't do shareholders any good to piss and moan about current paper losses on a messageboard if they still hold shares, because their story is not yet complete. I still hold shares here simply because I STRONGLY believe that the story is not anywhere near done yet, especially with the nonstop negativity being thrust on it 24-7 for months...and also that eventually, this stock will prevail and I, along with other shareholders, will benefit.
Yes, it is just my opinion. But IMHO a positive shareholder is much better for both their own sanity and the stock itself than a negative one. The only thing that negativity gets you is a paycheck if you are an employed entity..... it gets you nothing however if you are still a shareholder..... so again, if you still hold shares it simply doesn't make sense to cry about things within it in public.
Hang in there. This one is going to go back up, and soon.
JMHO.
"Even if you are on the right track, you will still get run over if you just sit there."
To all Sulja longs;
Still here. Still holding. Will ride it out.
Hey Walt, any update on your stop at Sulja Building Supplies SARL?
NAME/STYLE : SULJA BUILDING SUPPLIES CO SARL
LEGAL FORM : SARL
REG.NO./DATE : 1006676 / 13/03/2007
CAPITAL (SHARES) : LBP 5,000,000 / (100)
PARTNERS : LAYLA RAMEZ GHANDOUR (MANAGER) (15)
RANDA RAMEZ GHANDOUR (15)
KARIM KAMAL GHANDOUR (70)
REG ADDRESS : YAMOUT STREET, LOT NO. 1463/22 RAS BEIRUT, BEIRUT
REG OBJECT : GENERAL TRADE AND COMMERCIAL REPRESENTATION
BANKER : BYBLOS BANK SAL
You might want to try byblos bank also for updated info. Jmo.
"Even if you are on the right track, you will still get run over if you just sit there."
If SLJB-Loftwerks-Loftworks LLC has gone mute to shake the shorts do you really think anyone is going to tell you anything over the phone? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
That doesn't fly because they've had a name change since then. Nice attempt tho.
Not so fast there, speedy---
http://smallbusiness.dnb.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/IballValidationCmd?searchType=NSF&state=US&storeId=10001&catalogId=70001&productId=0&manPartNumber=0&fromView=&hiddenSessionId=-373395696&busName=Loftwerks&city=&address=&country=US&zipCode=#goTop
Guess what happens when we search for Loftworks, LLC---
http://smallbusiness.dnb.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/IballValidationCmd?searchType=NSF&state=US&storeId=10001&catalogId=70001&productId=0&manPartNumber=0&fromView=&hiddenSessionId=232222620&busName=Loftworks+llc&city=&address=&country=US&zipCode=#goTop
Cool, ain't it? ;-p
Finao--
Here's the place and leasing agent, his name is Wayne Berry.
http://www.space4lease.com/main/m_results.asp?type=building&id=4914
Contact number is there.
GLTALongs!
Show us proof! What's that? You can't? Aww, that's too bad.
Honestly, I don't care what you SAY. Show us PROOF. That document looks alot like PROOF to me.
You can't, and you know it. All smoke.
GLTALongs!
Sorry but by the way that link looks, according to our own government LOFTWERKS, INC. is alive as of FEBRUARY 4, 2008. And if you read directly across from it, it says that it's stock letters are SLJB.
Good info, IMHO!
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GREAT news, Indepth! Thank-you for that link!
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AWESOME! Great news! Thanks Couchptado!
I've been biding my time for the OSC to get their shyte together but I've gotta tell you if you can find all of this great stuff, I'm sure they can too! So what are they waiting for, Christmas?
EXCELLENT work Couchptado. Nothing more to say.
Except.......
I just have to, sorry, it's been too long---
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! GO SLJB!
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