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please tell me that you are playing other stocks ot there everyone... PLEASE.. take some money and play whats running.. thares a lot running right now.. there is a compamy that will break even soon that is trading at .0003 in security and computers... please look around so you dont go crazy watching this misery JF train...
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... you penny whaaaaaaaaa..
aighitgh me drinkin, what the hades happened today with news what is this new filing. do we go up from here or should we accept going to .008... lol whats up yoooooooooooooooo. money or no money gzfx flounders?
patience, you cant rush million dollar judgements
is there anybody out there? echo... LOL
Im surprised this stock hasnt gotten a lot of attention. Im betting that they launch a pr about pursuing ethanol very soon.
very interesting... thanks for the info, i had my suspicions.
I am doing nothing either until I get some follow up on the last pr string. My avg is around .16. I guess it's all a matter of when ceo wants to bring the pps up again. I'll be dumping my shares at the exact moment I'm up 10% so I dont have to look at this POS in my portfolio anymore. There are just way to many stocks that are running right now to take any risks with this comp.
just too many questions.....
good luck to you quellen
anyone think this is gonna bounce again this week?
i would be happy with .18 right now... LOL
just waiting for he morning I see that PR, I just hope that they actually do go otc. I've never owned a stock like this that just kept getting hammered with no response from the comp. I'll hold still, and wait for any pr. Im still not sure why HVYW took this out on the investors, i would imagine investor confidence is at an all time low right now. PR..... anyday... LOL
this did good in the afternoon, BLDV has tons of potential to hit .10 very soon IMO
yeperrrrrrrrrrrrrsss, you said it duuude ,, exactory mundo..
ff you da man you know that, to ya bro.. its all good. watcj gzfx go to .015 stockbum feeling mighty swell..yeheeeeeeeeeeee, laptop wifi rules. yeaaa. ever met yeager.. I love gzfx but invest in those oil and gas.. do dd, get in low and bank gzfx'rs a good time yaaaok.. back to drinkie... i cant wait until monday...
yahooooo.. just got home from bars with crowd.. yipeeeee. on laptop, its 75 degrees here in AZ.... i love you GZFX....
yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
send your resume to JF, you may get a job in the pr dept. sounds like you are doing a better job then them right now.
len, i know that ive crossed you the wrong way.... "one more saturday night" on sirius.. do you have this? hosted by bill walton, its a blast.. great interviews, waltons favorite shows.... peace. next week should be good for GZFX...
I like how this thing was attacked instantly, by outside posters and forgotten about. mmmmmmm interesting??? how convenient for them.....
i hate to rain on your parade, Ive driven FF crazy before on this board, I dont think that Im one of his favorites here. I dont think that we are joined at the hip. even though I thank you FF, for making me realize that other things were moving. I had a good week with oil and gas. no one here is bashing. i just said the thing will pop back to .015 btw? I still own GZFX, but i will continue to question JF's tactics and motives.
I know, the naming of names really caught me off guard. Ive seen those names frequently. im not gonna post this at rshn or anywhere else. you can do that.
Im with you on the beer. Ill be at that point around 2 pm. bored silly right now. good, Im glad someone thinks it was a good post. now I ask that you be patient when i drink to much and question, JF, dilution,low pps, and service..... hahah
GZFX TO DA MOON..... someday?
why do you think the pps is so low, thats the main reason IMO. pps would be at .02 if they came clean. maybe soon?
That article is a trip. If it is true... wow... who knows, thats the mystery of penny trading
morning all had to share this, could this be true, from another board here ar Ihub... Im still in GZFX, im hoping we get a low dilution #. Looks like it may pop back to .015 soon. anyway check this post, what a trip. I dont know if this is true or not, and its not my opinion? intersesting though.
Confessions of a Paid Stock Basher
Begin:
Today I want to come clean about something I feel very badly about. I cannot undo some of the things I have done, but hopefully this message will prevent other such occurrences in the future.
I am a paid basher.
Yes, it is true. Today is my last day at this company; I'm moving on to a new job. I've realized that there are more dignifying jobs out there that can pay me equally as well. But before I go, I want to explain a few things because this just isn't right and I won't feel good about myself until I expose this sham. It's hurt too many people and I don't want it on my conscience anymore. I can no longer live with a lie.
I work for a company called Global Calumny Funds in Stamford, CT. Basically, it's a Boiler Room much like the one in the movie of the same name. The idea behind my group is to bash the price of a company's stock down low enough to where the group of investors who retained our company's services can buy the stock really cheap and perhaps even take it over all together.
There are approximately 70 people at the company divided into several groups. My group, consisting of 5 people, is responsible for IDWD. While I probably shouldn't give any names of anyone working here now, what the heck, I'm leaving here, so what can they do? sue me? Ha! I can tell you that laptoptrader and janice shell were part of my group until he left last week, as was ninaturtle. Others who have been part of this include early bashers like hard data and Investorman. You may be interested to know that some hypsters, such as MONEYMADE and even Datatech!!, have also been part of the scam (more on that later).
There are several companies engaged in the bashing business, ours is not the only one. However, I can tell you that not every basher in here is a paid basher. Having done this for a year, I can usually tell who is a paid basher and who is merely someone
having a little fun. While unpaid bashers have a different motive than someone like me, they can be unwilling accomplices to helping me achieve my ultimate goal and they also spread rumor and confusion throughout a room, which also helps me.
What is that goal? Well, I am merely a cog in a much larger machine, so my bosses never really explained the big picture to me, but I'd say essentially, Shaddowwatch2oo3 was right. There are several companies who are quite familiar with Jim Bishop and Janice Shell and who are deathly afraid of them.
There are three types of bashers here at Global Calumny Funds: Advanced, Intermediate and Beginner. An Advanced-level basher (also known as a Silver Tongued Devil) would spread false or misleading information about the company.
They would deal in facts, countering every longs post with articles, news reports and opinion surveys that gave a negative impression about the company.
An Intermediate-level basher (also known as a Serpent) would try to weasel their way into the confidence of longs and create doubt using rumor or innuendo.
Finally, a Beginner-level basher (also known as a Pitchfork) would attempt to create confusion in the room by distracting other posters with satire, name calling and pointless arguments. The idea was to make sure no serious discussion of the stock
could take place. A Pitchfork was usually a basher, but not always. Sometimes, we would throw in a hypster Pitchfork such as MONEYMADE and laptop and a pumper like Datatech to create the illusion of an argument going on. What was really funny (in a perverse way, I guess) was that Datatech and I sat next to each other, laughing the whole time.
I was a Serpent basher, because I am known for effective bashing based on solid facts and truth. I was paid a base wage of $18 an hour for my services. I was given a $1.25 bonus for every decent quality post over 100 per day as well as a monthly bonus of $100 for every penny the stock had dropped from the previous month. I was also paid a bonus for bashing on weekends. While this may not sound like much, I made a decent, though dishonorable, paycheck plus a nice Laptop with free wireless internet connection.
Each of us sat in a small half-cubicle in a cluster with our teammates. Each group (usually five people) was made of three beginners (two who would bash and one who would hype), one intermediate and one advanced level basher. Occasionally for some
of the hotter stocks, one of the beginners would be replaced by an intermediate depending on how much the stock was rising. IDWD was a low-level stock, meaning it got the 3-1-1 configuration.
Honestly though, somehow, I get the feeling that WV Hillbilly may have worked for a basher company or knows someone who does because the fund websites he occasionally posts is eerily similar to our employer's websites. While not exact, I'd say it is about 90 percent the same. We do have certain rules that we follow.
First, we have to develop a character and stay within that character in order to build a "following." My character, "FogOfWar," was a humorous, sarcastic, obnoxious supporter of free speech and loved to portray himself as a truth-telling superhero, but only when it came to bashers.
Next, we had to follow certain guidelines on what we could say. We were urged to have an "answer" to every long's question, but we were to frame that answer in a way that ridiculed the questioner for asking such a question. However, we were never to use profanity or vulgarity because that would cause people to ignore us. We were to make fun of people, but in a civil way. The idea was to get "play," i.e. reaction from other posters. The more play we got, the more the room would be disrupted. Ignored posters get no play. One exception would be the hypsters since they were "defending" the stock against our onslaught, they got a little more leeway. People would side with the hypster because they thought he was real since he appeared to be on their side, but was really on ours, setting us up to disrupt the room. MoneyMade was quite good at this and gets paid very well.
I've worked on IDWD, VLO, AGII, QBID, BKMP for a few months now. In addition to the FogOfWar alias, I've used a few others on several other boards as well. I've used so many aliases that I can not remember the monikers or the passwords. I honestly lost track of everything. I stuck with FogOfWar because it was the one that got the most play from other posters.
In closing, I feel absolutely terrible about this. It's just awful how I've been part of a scam designed to cheat honest, hard-working people out of their investments all for the
benefit of a few wealthy people who already have enough money to last a lifetime.
These greedy people MUST be stopped. That's why I'm posting this before I leave. I want to make up for some of the damage I've done. I can't live with this lie anymore. You can't imagine how hard it is to look at myself in the mirror each morning knowing my job is to cheat and lie.
I have to go now, I'm too broken up to continue. I hope this confession can make up for my sordid deeds; I would urge everyone who reads this to inform as many people as you can. Only by shining the light of truth can we drive these rats back into the darkness from whence they came. Believe me, they don't want publicity.
Good luck and I hope all of you the best in your investment endeavors.
Article Source: http://www.articledash.com
By: Helen Smith
Gee, my feelings are hurt. boohoo im ignored... some more school playground behavior. always laughed at those kids growing at the playground that tried to organize groups to "group ignore" certain people. hahha. Yea, they were winners..
funny howaboot? what, I cant hear you in your PM. hahhhahaha you must be in PAIN from this pps hahhhahaa. down 80% ?
quit being so angry kid and take your money and put it into something thats running. you can cuss me out all you want in PM's. I'll be making money again tomorrow with these eth, energy runners. yep, they are still gonna run hard. you can give up playa hatin or you can get rich. Wake up to penny trading. I am..............
Just my personal opinion
whaaaaaaa a joke.. service is awful. hhaha i dont think they want new customers. Their scared of them. easier to dump shares and make money. Too hard to make customers happy. ughhhh. PAIN. gonna sell the rest tomorrow, the dilution whipping is to hard especially form this comp. sorry, this things goin to .001 IMO. set up for shorty to make a killing. better roll out the pr's deewwd. you are gonna need them. this company is doomed b/c investors arent coming back. pretty soon it will be the 4 of you talking about the weather and another dream retail deal. It will still be the busiest at ihub from all the people dropping in to complain about the service, or to laugh at GZFX long holders. OT: quit spamming your friends trying to get them to sign up. if they do sign up they'll despise you b/c the service is weak to the 'nth.
Just my personal opinion.
NOPE not goin anywhere.... exactly BMI, if i listened to you earlier i would of saved money. This thing is a sham. Makes me sick when companies do nothing but share dump to finance everything. Means to me that it has no hope. Dump the responsibility in the shareholders lap. what a joke. I'd invest in a company that doesnt sacrifice the shareholder. I like how pumpers gather in a PM circle saying that they are going to ignore certain people here. HAHAHA, like kids did on the playground. Must be a power thing, we just wont talk to them, that will make them pay..... that will teach them. HAHHHAHA. You guys are what 12 yrs old and daddy gave you 100 bucks for investing? hahahha ???? so what your down to 50 bucks now and daddy is telling you " I told you so" ]
REAL
just my personal opinion
CC is probably wondering why they hired them in the first place. probably gonna fire them before the rollout. The service is awful.. come clean.
I wish it was good, the only ones that say that its good is the pumpers that live here. Different people stop in all the time, saying the service sucks. Look, you can say that every negative statement about gzfx is a ploy to buy in low.. that is so absurd and desperate. Like we control the pps at ihub. Is this the first penny stock you've ever owned? Siri was never pennies anyway, i dont consider .78 pennies, thats almost a dollar. GZFX does nothing but bleed money. good thing they have you loyal longs.. lol you are paying for everything, not JF... you the shareholder. go on then take the dilution abuse, maybe at .001 you'll wake up. yea JF is gonna be the next Bill Gates HAHAHHHAHHHAHHAA.. thats good.... you are funny
Just my personal opinion
yea, GZFX will be .PK pinkie..
CC will fire them when their service buckles during this roll-out. Let me guess its the bashers that hold down the pps. No one is trying to lower the pps for a buy-in entry. Everyones taking their money to stocks that move. No one want to invest in a company that loses this much money, dilutes to no end and service is awful. Pumpers better wake up and move on if you have big $ in this. I said before that this is set up silver platter for the mm's to short. SILVER PLATTER. oh let me guess, the kindness of their heart will prevent shorters from making money. If this goes to .007 or below.. its over. you myopic GZFX'rs. Please remove the GZFX to the moon emblems right above us, its mis-leading and unfair to the newbies that dont understand dilution. Instead put a huge pic of the titanic sinking... ahhhh thats more like it....Snipe you still around... call cramer again bro
Just my personal opinion..
booo hooo, dont PM we anymore then... thanks for the eth. tip though heh
REAL....
what? this is penny trading. Im not gonna waste my time trying to personally raise the revenues of the comp. I own. You are wasting your time. Dont fall in love with the stock you own, thats one of the main rules .
Everyone got all huffy when i said to take your money to the latest boom. Its still booming and its not to late. I actually enjoyed myself for the first time today trading b/c i made money. i took a 20% hit on this and i dont take any losses below 20%, still own 130000 waiting long now just trying to break even. WAYYY to much dilution going on, dang shame.. but what did you expect, this company makes no money and the service sucks... no other way to pay for JF and chippie boys salarys.. I'd advise to sell, refuse to pay for JF's bloated salary. Maybe he'll panic and go on a pr frenzy.. oops, already tried that. Congrads, GZFX is the laughing stock of the otc. Prepare to be goofed on by everyone at IHUB. Im sure you can keep each other company pumpers...
Just my opinion.
same person also posted that they will get cash and properties that are already producing oil in the settlement, we'll see.
saw this on another BB from another person..
After talking with them yesterday it appears that the only thing holding up the settlement is that they are making sure that all properties are clear of liens, and it sounds like there are a lot of properties. The person i talked to said that this has all been done through the court and both sides signed the agrreement. Still have to wait to see it finalized. The other deal is still on, but most of their effort is being spent trying to wrap up the settlement.
sure we will, if i had a dollar every time i heard that I'd be a billionaire
we can't discuss this stuff on the GZ board.. the 10k's came out and INSQ has dilution but the stupid thing is everyone knew it... the verasun IPO has not hit yet...
just be careful... the charts are looking topped out.. good times for flipping the pullbacks coming.
glad you had a fun day
real
we can discuss this stuff.... Im still in GZFX sooo.... if this thing doesnt move, take a little out and run with another.. FF... this ethanol thing may not be a norm pullback.. ignore rsi.. thats over.. ethanol will be required by law..... this is a powerful force and is beyond a day trade.
Just my honest opinion
hhaahah, now i know you dont know whats up.... as soon as you sell, as well as tina.. the pps goes up.. give yourself a high 5..
MISERY>>> GZFX HELL BEAST... welcome to .001 ughhhh.. the writings on the wall. This things going to .001.. SICKENING
If you cant see that this is set up for the shorts you are blind... Looks like snipe has even given up?? btw.. just got my margin acct.. "if you cant beat em join em" hows WMNI FF.... hahhahaa GL...hahahhhaha hhahahaha. gravy train %#$@@$#@
Just my personal opinion
no, still have 300 grr shares plus, 20% down, probably wait until a rise and dump another 150 grrrrr. Other stocks are just moving too fast right now.. and ethanol has the potential of being the next major boom. Im gonna play what moves.. right now GZFX is dead in the water .. its a shame. I think people are fed up with the whole dilution scam.. they are moving on to stocks that will actually make money. Too bad I even got into this POS... GZFX... will suck you dry.. and not in a good way..
just my opinion
quit spamming people, you are gonna lose a lot of friends if you sucker them into this... the service blows, and every gamer site advises against GZFX. now they are diluting. Wave the white flag and invest in something thats moving. Maybe JF will WAKE UP if everyone bails this POS. and the pps goes to .005.... NIGHTMARE.. if it goes to .005 get your money out immediately.. the dilution will be unreal.. theira plent of pennies that are gonna make money. GZFX burns money. Ethanol is for real.. do your DD.. sit and watch at join the train, gonna be ike the tech boom of the 90's with eth.
Just my personal opinion
I called out NSOL 7 months ago.. look, whatever. watch these ethanol stocks run. oil pennies too. its a no brainer right now. FF your not the first person on this.. genius. Someone ran IESV and you advised not to. the next day you were on the eth. train. HAHHAHAHAHA GZFX longer....
now grease your lug nuts
DPLICARE..errrr duplicate.. sail off now into the ocean. and sink gzfx..its done. ethanol train..
REAL
took out a grand like FF said and put it into bldv.. it ran
33 % today.. I thought IESV was done and it ran hard. Not a single ethanol stock out there thats not burning right now. I hate hyping anything but this ethanol thing is for real. pull some of your money out of this and play some energy stocks. GZFX is just bleeding to much money.. People are on to other things...
Just my opinion
I doubt that, I dont think prior mgmt has that capability. Just not enough buying pressure right now. Looking back over a yr this thing was running to .035 and .015. But it was doing 50-70 million a day. We just dont have the volume right now to make it move fast. That will change though with great news. IMO, people just dont know about this stock yet. Not enough buying pressure.
yea funny, check the date again... thats from the 13th..
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=pqj.be
looks like berlin was closed friday... lucky, now we get to suck the pps dry before the germans. lol
thats the question, is it 3.8 bill or are we being dumped on right now. Hopefully its just 3.8 bill.... yep, O/S questions have to be answered for sure before people will come back. There are a lot of stocks running hard right now, too bad its not this one.
may just want to not watch this for a couple weeks and come back. I dont expect this thing to do much in the next 2 weeks. Maybe if we get news or something.
yea, but pre-pay at 150% doesnt sound like a winning deal to me for gzfx, unless they want to save the pps. depends what their mindframe is at that point. Just wondering how they have the finances to even keep up with another retailer anytime soon, unless there is some sort of partnership or strategic alliance. unless they convert shares. How much overhead does it take to roll out all summer at CC until december with little payback until January. Its costly, Im sure. Too bad they cant get other private investors on with deep pockets. That would help instead of this GGI garbage. But... its all about who you know, and it always helps to know people with money.
So.. Unknown? you are saying that we are going to end up with 3.8 billion O/S when its all said and done here, until we hit .007.. then it goes to 5.8 billion. I can live with 3.8 bill right now... 6 bill scares me
Just trying to iron this out in my head, b/c this is the biggest thing thats gonna hold back the pps IMO. Thanks
Just my personal opinion.
well, i think that the bottom line with GGI...
is that they will/are funding this CC roll-out by adding to the O/S to the tune of 5.8 billion when its said and done. GZFX loses money on a monthly basis. They have to fund this from somewhere. I think that many are worried at GZFX that the dilution will end up killing the pps so they put a safeguard their so GGI can add more shares to the O/S at every 25% decrease from .007. That way, GZFX always has cash, and if all else fails.. They do a R split at 28 bill O/S. Good thing they chose the date that it was .007... and not .015.......
so if it goes down to .005 I think that the pps is done for... and GZFX knows this and doesnt want it to happen. from .005 it goes to .001 and all of the A/S will be dumped into the O/S. that will be like the guillotine at that point.
I doubt it will go that low as long as long as they have encouraging PR's. Look for a lot of PR's to keep this pps afloat or the pps will absolutely get killed thru dilution.
I just worry that the mm's are looking at this adding 25% decrease and licking their chops. Just worried that its set up for the shorts to make a killing if they can force dilution. Probably a lot of people here that cant even understand that concept so.. anyway...
bottom line.. if the pps goes to .005... its over johnny
all in my opinion