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Reply:
dcsteve,
Things are starting to take shape!....Nice.
Good Post too. Thanks for the update!
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dcsteve Thursday, 02/01/18 08:22:38 PM
Re: None
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CANOE POOL CHINA DIRECTORS OFFICIAL ON OTCMARKETS PROFILE!
Company Officers/Contacts
Franjose Yglesias CEO
Lin Yong Sr. Executive VP
Matthew Arnett Secretary, CMO
Rolf Bansbach CTO
Xin Pangan Director, Bus. Dev
https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/SANP/profile
Reply:
LetGoodTimesRoll,
Anytime, Anytime Bro...doing my little part to keep the Bulls/Longs updated and of course the Shorts too.
On another note:
The volume waves SANP has been experiencing going back months ago....just staggering....Why are all these investors buying SANP shares.....whether it's Long Term or Short Term...or Both!
An Army of SANP Investors now. They know what's coming.
Amazing!
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LetGoodTimesRoll Member Level Tuesday, 01/30/18 03:36:19 AM
Re: Maker13 post# 85226
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Thanks for so diligently providing the latest share stats, directly from the TA.
wink
$SANP
Reply:
MarketJuice,
Ha ha ha ha ha ha..!
I needed a good laugh. Thank you.
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MarketJuice Monday, 01/29/18 11:25:45 PM
Re: None
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85211
of 85262
Shorts are cooked. Hope Clay and his turds are short!!!
The share structure on 1/29/18 is below.
Authorized: 9,500,000,000
Issued: 7,983,208,684
Restricted: 71,524,500
Have a good day.
Regards,
Johnnie
Johnnie Zarecor
Pacific Stock Transfer Company
Direct: 571-485-9999
Global Operations Center Capital Transfer Agency
6725 Via Austi Pkwy, Suite 300 121 Richmond St. W. Ste 401
Las Vegas, Nevada 89119 Toronto, ON M5H 2K1
Telephone: 571-485-9999 Telephone: 416-350-5007
I blows my mind the consistent powerful volume waves that SANP has been getting for months now. When SANP's T/A sold shares hit 9.5 Billion...it's gonna get interesting.
I'd imagine the Market Makers' will be trying to scoop them right back up from the Sellers..albeit, at a higher share price.
I know there's some here that swear R/S. I seriously doubt that is going to happen. Franjose (should) know how much that would hurt us common shareholders.
Reply:
buzzlightyr,
Ok, thanks for that update.
'The Patient One'
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buzzlightyr Sunday, 01/21/18 11:58:14 PM
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84370
of 84408
Everyone should chill, BIG move coming my sources tell me, can't say any more than that, the patient ones will understand. GLTA
Reply:
LetGoodTimesRoll,
Good Post!
SANP might not be for everyone.
SANP will test your discipline, tolerance, flexibility, patience, verbal etiquette, sanity,.etc.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha..!
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LetGoodTimesRoll Friday, 01/12/18 05:09:26 AM
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What is known about $SANP?
1) CEO went to New York to meet with attorneys.
2) Communications with shareholders, after the meeting drizzled down to a trickle.
3) Canoe Pool went down and is now up and increasing the hash rate daily.
4) SANTO website came online 2 weeks ago on New year's day.
5) $SANP tweeted that news is imminent.
If your risk tolerance is being strained to the breaking point, $SANP is probably not for you. Leave this type of investing to the big boys and girls. We love making money, it doesn't always happen overnight.
If you're long in $SANP, I congratulate you!
Please see the share structure as of 1/12/2018.
Authorized: 9,500,000,000
Issued: 7,787,248,142
Restricted: 71,524,500
Have a good day.
Johnnie (Ms)
Johnnie Zarecor
Pacific Stock Transfer Company
Direct: 571-485-9999
Global Operations Center Capital Transfer Agency
6725 Via Austi Pkwy, Suite 300 121 Richmond St. W. Ste 401
Las Vegas, Nevada 89119 Toronto, ON M5H 2K1
Telephone: 571-485-9999 Telephone: 416-350-5007
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Please see (Share Structure) below as of 1/3/2018.
Authorized: 9,500,000,000
Issued: 7,423,898,142
Restricted: 71,524,500
Have a good day.
Johnnie (Ms)
Johnnie Zarecor
Pacific Stock Transfer Company
Direct: 571-485-9999
Global Operations Center Capital Transfer Agency
6725 Via Austi Pkwy, Suite 300 121 Richmond St. W. Ste 401
Las Vegas, Nevada 89119 Toronto, ON M5H 2K1
Telephone: 571-485-9999 Telephone: 416-350-5007
Reply:
buzzlightyr,
When they reach the 3rd Phase...
ANYONE PLEASE, SCREEN PIC OF (ALL BIDS) WITH MMs FROM YOUR SMARTPHONE..?
THANKS IN ADVANCE.
Reply:
Smellit,
Dang, I envy you with all those shares you have!!
You'll probably be the Top 1-15 for the greatest earners down the road.
Long and Strong!
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Smellit Tuesday, 01/09/18 10:32:29 AM
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Got my 1's...Thanks heaps boys and girls. Take out the 11's and 12's and watch this baby twerk!!
GO $SANP$
Reply:
Smellit,
Right on,....Right on!
You are a serious Longer Termer it looks like!
And with the amount of shares you have,....you are not messing around!
The rest of the Longs/Bulls have been ultra patient so far. They know what's coming too. Short Termers will go Mad waiting on SANP...lol.
Of course, a little short term action on the side doesn't hurt either, especially when you have waupping shares for the big day(s) ahead.
Sooooo....go on with your badazz self!
Smiles!
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Smellit Wednesday, 01/03/18 10:28:25 AM
Re: Archery Class post# 81906
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81916
of 81922 Go
I'm never one to tell someone to buy or sell period (Not my place, and not my money!) I can say this though, I like Scrappy CEO's...Your NEVER going to succeed in EVERY single venture that you undertake in business and if you expect to your a fool. Your also NEVER going to please EVERY investor, shorter or 1 tick flipper...Nor will you EVER put out enough P.R's or ENOUGH tweets or ENOUGH updates to satisfy everyone. It's just the nature of the beast...
I can however say this from first hand experience and from my knowledge of Li. This time, Frankie and Matt got it right and partnered with the RIGHT guy! Make NO mistakes about it, Li is NOW in control, he has more contacts, more experience and a better understanding of business then anyone I've had the pleasure of meeting. He will take Santo from Sub's to pennies in no time at all.
Remember, Li needs us (Santo) as much as we need him!! He needed a foot in the U.S. without going through the MASSIVE amount of paperwork and filings...And he needed to do it in a hurry. It's a perfect marriage, between Canoe and Santo...
These are just my opinions and you should invest in what "YOU BELIEVE IN"...Not what other's stand to profit from.
FULL DISCLOSURE- I NEVER NORMALLY POST LIKE THIS, BUT I'M SERIOUSLY TRYING TO HELP AND ONLY HAVE GOOD INTENTIONS FOR FELLOW INVESTOR'S. ALSO I DO OWN 380MIL SHARES IN $SANP$
GLTA
What is this...the 3rd...4th run.....again? There is no excuse for anyone on this board to HAVE NOT of made money on all the previous runs. NONE.
Short Termers.....you have made out like BANDITS!.....RAIDERS!
Reply:
LetGoodTimesRoll,
It's 2018. The hybernation cycle is over. Waiting for that first day of MINING to begin!
IT'S SHOW TIME NOW...!!!
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LetGoodTimesRoll Monday, 01/01/18 01:26:12 AM
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Iceberg ahead!!!
$SANP
May SANTO Mining Corp. mine many COINS, there bye increasing their networth, and hence,...increase their common share price.
The Best New Year's wish of all...!
The company becoming richer and richer; the share price reacting to that richness.
LONG!
BULL STRONG!
STAMPEDE POWER!
https://twitter.com/santo_io/status/947680104179798016
Here's another rumor,....from the same website.
Be careful what you read. This one is dated (17 NOV 2017)
Reply:
Djdjdjdj,
Such an excellent post there..!
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Djdjdjdj Member Level Friday, 11/17/17 04:26:18 AM
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Mr. Li Ang CEO of Canoe Pool stated; “We were so excited to meet with Matt Arnett in Chengdu on November 14th 2017. Together we are developing what we hope to soon be the world's best and biggest Bitcoin Cash Pool. We are committed to building the Americas with Santo who is our most vital and strategic partner. I first priorities is building the Americans pools hash rate and mining capacity. We want to invite all Americans to join the movement-revolution.
Need I say more?
$ALYI ...Alternet Systems Confirms Lithium Patent Portfolio Exclusive License and Purchase Option Details
* Note: Is this why the share price today shot up to $0.0325...?
Anyone...Let me know what's going on with ALYI...please?
DALLAS, November 16, 2017 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- DALLAS, November 16, 2017 /PRNewswire/ --
Alternet Systems, Inc. (usotc:ALYI) today announced filing its quarterly financial report for the period end September 30, 2017. Management has scheduled a shareholder online presentation for next week, Tuesday, November 21, 2017 to review the quarterly report in more detail. In the course of the most recently reported quarter, Alternet acquired Lithium IP Holdings and changed the nature of the company's business from financial operations to lithium energy solutions integration and development based largely on the company's new portfolio of ten lithium technology patents.
In response to questions received from recent news about Alternet's lithium technology, management confirms the technology was acquired from Air Products and Chemicals, Inc. APD, +0.20% in an exclusive license agreement with an option to purchase. In the shareholder presentation next week, management will elaborate further on the nature of the agreement and how the agreement fits into the company's overall business strategy.
Management will also address the current financial statement and how it reflects the previous financial services business, not the current lithium business, and what changes shareholders can anticipate in future financial statements as old liabilities associated with the previous business are cleaned up and new operating assets are more clearly reflected.
Alternet ' s New Lithium Technology Integration And Development Strategy
Alternet's business strategy is to partner with prominent third parties producing products and services that require stable, safe, long duration power in high impact operating systems. Within such partnerships, Alternet and each partner will together develop an integrated solution that includes a power component based on Alternet's lithium technology. Alternet management has an extensive background in military industrial solutions. The original technology developer did not concentrate on military applications.
The combination of Alternet's military background and high potential of the technology for applicability in military solutions presents a promising partnership development opportunity.
At the same time, Alternet is also developing partnerships separate from the military industrial sector to include the EV and HEV partners. Several potential partners participated in Alternet's vetting process when identifying and selecting a technology to acquire as the foundation of the company's strategy to bring a stable, safe, long duration power solution to market for high impact operating systems. Partnership announcements are anticipated to be forthcoming soon.
Learn more on the company's website: http://www.otc-alyi.com or http://www.lithiumip.com
Disclaimer/Safe Harbor: This news release contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Securities Litigation Reform Act. The statements reflect the Company's current views with respect to future events that involve risks and uncertainties. Among others, these risks include the expectation that any of the companies mentioned herein will achieve significant sales, the failure to meet schedule or performance requirements of the companies' contracts, the companies' liquidity position, the companies' ability to obtain new contracts, the emergence of competitors with greater financial resources and the impact of competitive pricing. In the light of these uncertainties, the forward-looking events referred to in this release might not occur.
Alternet Systems, Inc. Contact: Randell Tornoinfo@lithiumip.com +1-800-713-0297 https://www.otc-alyi.com/contact/
SOURCE Alternet Systems, Inc.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/alternet-systems-confirms-lithium-patent-portfolio-exclusive-license-and-purchase-option-details-2017-11-16-10183210
Reply:
sammyk,
Yeah, that last T-Trade.
75,000,000 shares x $0.000394 = $29,550
That and all the other high volume/trades days since the share price sunk is making me think another big run is coming up too.
Another Short-Termers paradise if it does. Then the Short-Sellers bring down...again. LOL.
Always keep your eyes on the MMs...(good looking out there!)
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sammyk Thursday, 11/16/17 06:22:37 PM
Re: Maker13 post# 66160
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of 66170 Go
no change ... so no dilution today ...
if u google a t trade , its dark waters talked abt .. but it also states ... a mm collecting shares for their inventory , for a possible run coming, IMO
glta
Good Morning. The structure today (11/16/2017) is below. For future requests, please send to me.
Authorized: 9,500,000,000
Issued: 7,078,515,101
Restricted: 71,524,500
Have a good day.
Johnnie (Ms)
jzarecor@pacificstocktransfer.com
Johnnie Zarecor
Pacific Stock Transfer Company
Direct: 571-485-9999
Global Operations Center Capital Transfer Agency
6725 Via Austi Pkwy, Suite 300 121 Richmond St. W. Ste 401
Las Vegas, Nevada 89119 Toronto, ON M5H 2K1
Telephone: 571-485-9999 Telephone: 416-350-5007
$SANP ...Mr. ARNETT HAD A GREAT MEETING & DINNER TODAY WITH CANOEPOOL IN CHENGDU CHINA, will update EOW.
* Note:
Both images were merged on the twitter site.......
Is the CEO giving out an encoded message to all of us?
WHAT COULD THAT......IMPLY...............ANYONE?
https://twitter.com/santo_io/status/930439955402383360
Reply:
Pushmonkey,
Holy moly!...I'm glad I didn't miss your post today.
Even though that's a bold rumor from the link you provided, that would be hugh news if it did happen.
Well....we'll fine out, or not.
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Pushmonkey Sunday, 11/12/17 04:34:48 PM
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SANP is supposedly going to announce a new multi joint venture with NYSE trading firm this week
https://investorwire.blogspot.com/2017/11/santo-mining-corp-sanp-to-announce-new.html?m=1
Reply:
GenericGatsby,
Another non-BS post by the Great GenericGatsby..!
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GenericGatsby Friday, 11/10/17 02:26:16 AM
Re: evangelico post# 63405
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Can't lose if you don't sell, assuming liquidity remains and the stock doesn't get outright halted. Aww dude, I was in another one that got outright frozen by the SEC for fraud, but SANP is way too transparent for that to happen here. Even though there were "discussions" and rumblings about how it should have been halted on Monday...
I do wonder how many complaints the SEC gets about fraud penny stocks that just turn out to be people upset about a big drop. That's probably why they seem so distant from this little underworld we inhabit.
Reply:
Kvr10,
As far as I know, they're not signing up anymore companies. I haven't seen an official PR stating that, or a tweet. They seem to be in the process of procuring equipment from other companies.
Also, you can't have short-termer mentality regarding this company anymore. The old days are forever gone now. It's time to move on now.
This is a long play now.
Short-Termers will go MAD waiting this ticker symbol out. lol.
You'll feel like a mental patient inside an insane asylum.
Just buy some shares of SANP....and then forget about SANP for a month. Comeback and check them out. If you don't like what you see, comeback again in another month.
Best for your health and sanity. It will help prevent you making frustrated decisions.
(This message is not just for you either, but for other short-termers.)
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Kvr10 Thursday, 11/09/17 07:54:50 PM
Re: Maker13 post# 63307
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Maker 13 thank you so it is still on we will merge eventually that is nice to know and are they just signing up more companies is that what they doing? Thank you in advance
Reply:
Kvr10,
If the Merger was out, SANP......would not......of signed the licensing agreement with Canoe pool............POINT BLANK.
THE ABSOLUTE MOST REVEALING QUOTE:
ZheJiang Ebang CommunicationTechnology Co.,Ltd
http://www.ebang.cn/
https://twitter.com/santo_io/status/928637568333373440
Reply:
Viky,
Much appreciated. Thank you!
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Viky Thursday, 11/09/17 05:01:38 PM
Re: Maker13 post# 63254
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63255
of 63255 Go
Post of the day! Well said buddy!
Reply:
MR.METICULOUS,
The "Three C's" are at it again. They'll never stop being who they are. lol.
Reply:
MattA,
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MattA Monday, 11/06/17 08:35:30 PM
Re: MattA post# 61073
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of 61712 Go
Real icing on the cake is I bought more of this trash pile today, too....I really should stop looking for any sign that Frankie will turn this one around cause all I find is horrible information, then I get mad, and share it to warn others.
Article from INSIDER FINANCIAL
Posted on October 26, 2017
Santo Mining Corp (OTCMKTS:SANP) Delivers Big Gains
Readers will remember well our words about Santo Mining Corp (OTCMKTS:SANP), which operates co-working spaces for cannabis entrepreneurs in the United States.
We said that the stock was keeping positive momentum, signing interesting agreements, and had the potential to deliver substantial revenue growth.
We believed that the company should be followed closely. Truly speaking, we were not wrong in saying so. In October, the stock delivered outstanding returns to the market. The share price went from trading close to $0.0003 to hit $0.0017 in less than one month.
The most remarkable is that the amount of shares that changed hands picked up in October. More than one billion shares changed hands some days, which is an astonishing amount and shows that the market is showing interest in the stock.
Have a look at it before we provide more details:
Recent Developments – What happened in October?
The following news seemed to be responsible for the share price increase.
On October 2, 2017, it was released that Chongqing Yuhuan Technology Co., Ltd., operating as Canoe Pool, and the company had signed a Letter of Intent to merge the two groups. The companies will create an entity that would be called Canoe Pool America, which will be “focused on developing and expanding the U.S. operations for Canoe Pool’s bitcoin mining operations.”
The following details were given:
“Canoe Pool is to receive 150 million shares of SANP preferred stock, representing 35% of SANP post-merger stock. An additional 50 million shares of preferred stock will be issued upon achievement of certain Bitcoin mining milestones, for a total of up to 40% of SANP post-merger stock.” Source
Additionally, we want to highlight that the transaction is expected to be finalized within next 4-6 weeks. The company will announce the closing of the merger, so the share price may further increase. Thus, we encourage readers to be alert. This seems like an important catalyst for the stock.
Is mining Bitcoin a good business?
We believe that SANP is making a smart move by entering the bitcoin industry. The crypto currency market is an innovative but yet to be regulated business that has delivered interesting returns so far. We have assessed many companies operating in this industry and this is what we have seen so far. We encourage readers to check other articles to understand why SANP is entering this sector.
What’s the biggest catalyst?
Ang Li, Chairman and CEO of Canoe Pool, explains that if the US finally regulates the industry and initial coin offerings commence, the demand for the cryptocurrency could rise. This will make mining companies, like Canoe Pool, profit and the share price could increase.
On October 16, 2017, SANP noted that Mr. Rolf Bansbach had been appointed Chief Technology Officer. We appreciate his profile. He has worked for big IT organizations, such as Hewlett Packard, Sykes Americas, and several IT data centers located in Latin America. Furthermore, the new profile will help in the cryptocurrency venture. This is what Mr. Yglesias, CEO of Santo Mining, explained:
“Mr. Bansbach takes on this new role in the company at a critical time for Santo Mining. As we prepare for the future, key acquisitions like Rolf are needed to take our company in a new direction. Young, talented blood is the future of the cryptocurrency. Rolf will see well beyond the curve and his vision will help navigate SANP into the future.” Source
Market Reaction
In our opinion, the market reacted well to the announcement made on October 3, 2017. We agree with the reaction of market participants. The growth that the new business model will bring was, in our opinion, the most significant reason for the jump. Additionally, we believe that the merger will also bring know-how, new talent and will increase the business network of SANP. We believe that if the transaction closes, the share price would continue its upward trend.
Conclusion
Currently trading with a market cap of $5.2 million, SANP is an exciting story among small caps not only because of its potential growth, but the financial figures are also interesting. The company showed, in the last quarterly release, a solid balance sheet situation. As of March 31, 2017, the company showed $0.2 million in assets and only approximately $49,000 in total liabilities. To sum up, there is a lot to like in SANP.
Be sure to check out our coverage on SANP!
We will be updating our subscribers as soon as we know more. For the latest updates on SANP, sign up below!
Image courtesy of Unai Telleria via Flickr
Disclosure: We have no position in SANP and have not been compensated for this article.
https://insiderfinancial.com/santo-mining-corp-otcmktssanp-delivers-big-gains/172951/
Reply:
Kvr10,
Short Volume: 153,542,682
20171026|SANP|153542682|0|285622353|O
http://regsho.finra.org/FORFshvol20171026.txt
For....10/26/2017
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Kvr10 Thursday, 10/26/17 08:12:10 PM
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can someone post the short interest
Reply:
LetGoodTimesRoll,
Mannnn....has it!
After everything...a 100 ft Diamond in the rough appears out of nowhere.
Train?....I'm thinking a rocket ship being fueled up with super hi octane jet fuel....getting ready for lift-off to the MOON...!!!
Smiles....but, we all have our analogies, I see what you're saying.
Long/Bull/Strong!
Stampede Power!
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LetGoodTimesRoll Friday, 10/20/17 08:33:10 AM
Re: Maker13 post# 47217
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of 47226 Go
Good morning Maker13!
It's been a rough ride...LOL but look where we are.
The train is leaving the station!!
LONG AND STRONG!!
Reply:
CASH IS K1N6
Top O the Mornin back at ya!
Don't forget the Irish Cream with the coffee.
SANP....is the Long Play here.
This Merger coming up is Bigger Than The Moon.
Especially coming from $0.0001
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CASH IS K1N6 Friday, 10/20/17 07:49:34 AM
Re: CASH IS K1N6 post# 47137
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Good mornong...coffe time.......glta
Reply:
Willymon,
What an interesting and informative post. Thank you.
I want to thank you personally for spreading the word to those executives...it goes a long way.
Reply:
MattA,
When day traders borrow shares, it means there short selling the stock. Short Sellers are betting on the share price to go down, not up.
Anyone short selling SANP right now is rolling the dice...(like never before).
They're playing with up to a million plus dollars if they're....caught....when/if the share price goes up....from say $0.0019 to like $0.50)
If this does happen.....they're life savings, all there assets, banned from trading again,.etc, and much more....is at risk.
Wuuuuuuu.....they will be hating life forever; there whole life turned upside down..........in one day.
They are finished.
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MattA Thursday, 10/19/17 06:18:52 PM
Re: Kvr10 post# 46960
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I did so. But what do you mean by borrow shares? This is a new concept for me.
Wuuuuuuu....Short Sellers better be careful.....this stock is gonna shot through the roof anytime now.
If they get stuck when it goes up.....uuuuuuuuuuuuuu............they're in deep sh*t!
Mortgage, House/Apartment, car(s), (file for bankruptcy)....have to be sold quick to cover.
Wuuuuuuu...I'd hate to be in their shoes!
Reply:
sammyk,
Could you expand on that post please.
Could you give a screenshot or link (specifically) to SANP.
I don't see anything on my brokerage info concerning SANP.
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sammyk Thursday, 10/19/17 05:46:41 AM
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Interesting News on my Etrade sanp..
says Ventura :
here is the link for Who Ventura is: bottom of services says they do Mergers/ Acquisitions
http://venturainvestmentsholdings.com/about.html
Reply:
playfullyhappy,
I couldn't of put it better myself.
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playfullyhappy Wednesday, 10/18/17 05:30:36 PM
Re: Maker13 post# 45886
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maker13,
Most all retail customers cannot short. You have to be an accredited investor to short sell and very few are accredited. There are some other requirements also to be able to short sell.
Reply:
Rainmaker,
Where did you find the info that the CEO added 450 million to the float,...if ya don't mind me asking?
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The Rainmaker Member Level Wednesday, 10/18/17 04:24:27 PM
Re: Horatio79 post# 45890
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It took volume of a billion shares a day to really move this stock up...need the heavy volume days to return. Plus the CEO added 450 million shares to the float last week so we are also moving a bigger pile up the hill this time.