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Cass....Your at it again, read the post carefully.
"No business releases profits and or margins on specific products or PRs". The term "OR" implies other than PRs, or don't you understand that.
Cass....I understand that but never should they provide profits or margins by product line. Why didn't you comment on that which was the main point of my message.
You state "Contracts like the ones from Softeq, APS and Eclipse have much bigger top line revenues, than gross profit."
Of course the revenues will be larger that the gross profit
unless they plan on selling them at a loss and we don't know that do we. Or did you mean the margins will be small? If so, how do you come by that knowledge?
No business releases profits and or margins on specific products or PRs. That simply wouldn't be good business practice except the competition would love it.
You should know better that to even remotely suggest that they do that.
Cass..That's strange that you would not copy a post of that importance. You seem to keep almost all posts in your library as indicated by how fast you came up with the PR from 1998 and it was not a message from any board, it came from your data.
So if you can't prove the post existed, we have to doubt your word.
All of this discussion is pointless. No one is going to steal an IFE device for the value or movie piracy.
Too big of a risk either on board or prior to boarding. The penalties would far out way the benefits. Besides if they wanted to pirate a movie, they could simply go to the internet, where many are pirated even before they are released.
Cass....I have read through the patent, and I must confess, a lot of it is beyond my technical comprehension.
I therefore, often times rely on some of the teckies that I trust, mainly from their background and how they explain the tech stuff to some of us lay people.
You should do the same, with your prevoiously stated non technical background.
LOL...Are we suppose to take your word over some of the teckies who have posted on these boards for years, and in fact work in the tech industry.
Sent...Yes we are....Imagine an individual giving them a fake drivers license, an identity theft charge card, missing a paid for flight as you say, or carrying it on and after the flight, hiding the unit in a bag of some kind, and then risk a felony charge and jail....all for a $1000, and maybe pirating a movie, which I doubt they would be able to do anyway.
Sounds like one of the stupid criminals that Jay Leno likes so much with "headlines".
Cass..The excessive risk is your opinion, right?
Cass....Until the system hits the market and is made available to the public, everything you say is merely speculation. You could be wrong on every point you make and probably will be.
I guess you expect the device to be given out without proper identification, a credit card, and who knows what else may be required.
Theft for $1000 is doubtful, and the studios are already under attack from piracy, so this system may be addressing that issue.
How do you know that they won't have a device built in to sound an alarm as an individual passes through a checkout point.
There are many ways to counterattack theft.
And one airline has already committed to the system, so it doesn't appear to be a worry of theirs.
Music downloads may get easier/faster
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HoustonChronicle.com -- http://www.HoustonChronicle.com / Sept. 18, 2003, 11:36AM
Project sees `next step' in Internet's evolution
Rice to research ultra high-speed access
By ERIC BERGER
Copyright 2003 Houston Chronicle
Computer scientists at Rice University say the Internet is developing wrinkles.
So they're proposing, along with colleagues at other universities, to radically overhaul America's Internet infrastructure, from the backbones that transport data around the world, to conduits into homes.
To jump-start the process the National Science Foundation awarded $7.5 million Wednesday to several academic institutions, including Rice, to develop technologies 2,000 times faster than dial-up and up to 250 times faster than DSL or cable modems. And they want to bring this ultra high speed to 100 million homes.
"We need to take the next step," said Ed Knightly, an associate professor of electrical and computer engineering at Rice.
In recent years high-tech leaders, as well as organizations such as the Brookings Institution, have pushed the federal government for a national initiative on universal broadband access. They estimate a proliferation of ultra high-speed Internet access could generate up to $500 billion for the economy.
The consortium of scientists charged with the task will focus during the next five years on determining the best, most economical configuration of routers, fiber-optic cable and other network infrastructure. They will also study network reliability and security issues.
Rice will be the center of wireless research. Knightly's team will set up several wireless beacons around the Rice campus to test technology that can deliver high-speed Internet access. The goal is to send out focused beams to nearby computers, rather than a mass signal in every direction.
Eventually, he said, anyone with a laptop should be able to sit down anywhere in Houston and tap into an ultra-broadband connection.
Current broadband technologies of cable and DSL lines operate well below the threshold needed to consistently deliver DVD-quality television or videoconferencing.
With the proposed standard of 100 megabits per second, experts say, the Web's true potential can be achieved: High-definition video can be delivered on demand. Home videos can be sent to family members in a matter of seconds. Employees can work from home, with a video image of a co-worker one push of a button away.
None of it will come cheap. At an estimated $500 to $1,000 per home, the potential price tag could top $100 billion.
Critics say there is no proof more broadband will make people more productive. They also note that although broadband access is available to the vast majority of U.S. consumers at home, only about one-third -- some 40 million Internet users -- connect via broadband.
But, says the project's leader, industry is already rushing to make super-broadband available in some communities. If the entire network is not upgraded, such changes could create a bottleneck that bogs down the entire system, said Hui Zhang, an associate professor of computer science at Carnegie Mellon University.
And although there is no guarantee industry will adopt the project's recommendations, Zhang noted that AT&T is a partner in the research, and many of the participants have worked in industry.
"It's valuable to step back, and take a look at the network as a whole," Zhang said. "If this is going to be there for the next 100 years, it's important to do it right."
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MH.....I had in mind a 3 hour flight would be long enough.
Plenty of time to settle down before and after any entertainment.
This length would include most flights from the middle of the country going east or west.
The other point to consider, all flights of even 1-3 hours may be revenue producing for any product other than a movie.
So what duration would fit your criteria?
Cass.....The rental fee in not in addition to any other fee for the unit. There would be no $200 amount, assuming that is a correct number, it's totally separate.
You could have seen that from my calculations comparing the sales of the units verses the rental. There would be no out of pocket money for the delivery of the units.
That should be clear to you, but if not tell me what problem you are having.
Sent..That's because she ignores a post when she is caught. I gave her the conversion rate and took the largest number we had for revenue and gave her the answer.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=1455538
RR..Then you wouldn't know what they think. My statement dealt with those who post. Please stay on the subject.
If you are really interested, why don't you ask those what they think, those that read but don't post.
Most investors, numbering in the thousands who own edig stock, probably don't even know that these boards exist.
Cass.....Just to make sure you understand, no one is talking about the current arrangement with APS and Alaska Airline with reference to rentals.
If you follow the thread, you will see that it is a possibility on future contracts, as I don't believe that all future contracts are already written in cement, at least there is no evidence of that.
Anything in business is open to negotiation if it be proved to be beneficial to all parties.
Cass....Maybe your business experience has never exposed you to that kind of an arrangement. It is done, I know because our company did it.
RR....I mean me and my friend sitting next to me. Probably most who post here also would agree.
We are convinced otherwise and by then you will be on to other topics.
.50 rental x 20 uses = $10.00 x 2300 departures = $23,000 per day x 30 days = $690,000 or $2,070,000 per quarter or about 8 mil per year
I've seen good negotiators work miracles. Maybe they need some help in that area, they have never shown much expertise that I can think of.
RR...Why
Sinkman/Sent....It does matter how generate our portion of the revenue.
Using my numbers, which may be way off, but that was 2 mil per quarter or 8 mil per year.
If we received $300 per unit and sold 40 per plane x 400 planes, we get approx 5 mil.
That's not only less, but the rental method is an ongoing thing, not a one shot deal.
I don't care who we land, I do care about the revenue sharing methodology.
Cass ..They are small, even using the 40 billion won for 2000, their best year, the exchange rate is .000856113, which converts to about 32 million.
It's not DigitalWAy.
I'm talking about a new contract with a different set of conditions. Surely they haven't cemented in the split on all future contracts.
I think the best deal would be to land Continental. They are worldwide, have 358 planes plus 212 regional. 2300 departures daily speaks volume to me and they are in the profit zone. One of the few who have also funded their retirement plan lately, bringing the percent to 90 of their liability.
I'll take them over about anyone.
Do the math, it's astounding. What if we received just $.50 per rental.
2300 x avg of 100 passengers, (low)x 20% use or 20 rentals x 30 days = $690,000 per month or #2,070,000 per quarter.
Cass...another mystery solved, so you don't have to call anyone.
Posted on Agoracom today by Sinacull
"I don't know if anyone brought this up or is old news but the Skyview name is a trade mark name of Nissan. They have named their new sun roof on the New Nissan Quest ''Skyview''."
seed...If like you say, them have enough for one months cash, and this latest alert is farther out than that, what prompts you to now invest, opposite of your intentions a short time ago.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=1434640
How do you tie in Gateway with yesterdays alert. Tell me what is interesting please.
DigitalWay makes the digeplayer
lickily....Don't forget it was a shareholder alert only.
You mention "blanket, semi-promotional line for other potential customers reading the PR, just to indicated the full range of capabilities of the platform"
It didn't say it would be included or excluded.
(San Diego, CA – September 16, 2003) – e.Digital Corporation (OTC: EDIG) today announced that a multi-billion dollar Asian OEM (original equipment manufacturer) has signed a royalty-bearing license agreement to manufacture e.Digital’s Odyssey 1000 Personal Digital Jukebox platform for OEM branding. Products manufactured under this agreement are scheduled to reach consumers later this year. Because the Asian OEM manufactures products for many global brands under confidentiality agreements, the name of the licensee is subject to non-disclosure.
Through the agreement, the Asian OEM will provide manufacturing services of a 1.8” version of the Odyssey 1000 platform for specific OEM branding while e.Digital will supply the technology, software, firmware and upgrades to the Odyssey 1000 platform.
“This Asian company exemplifies quality, innovation and integrity,” said Fred Falk, president and chief executive officer of e.Digital. “We are very pleased to have them onboard as another OEM licensee of our Odyssey 1000 product platform. We expect to announce further details as this 1.8” version of our Odyssey 1000 platform is branded and introduced to consumers later this year.”
The Odyssey 1000 platform is the basis for a sophisticated, hard drive-based portable jukebox featuring VoiceNav® voice navigation, built in voice recorder, FM tuner, mass storage device status and a USB 2.0 connection.
chwdr.....I thought that too, but they could provide the mfg services and not necessarily make the 1.8" drive. Again a play on words selected very carefully, so you can interpret it two ways.
"Asian OEM will provide manufacturing services of a 1.8" version of the Odyssey 1000 platform"
He did say dollars, but RP is sneaky with words.
gernb..That's very true, even with an order of 5000 to start off, at $1000 each, it's only 5 million and that is analogous to a pin in a hay stack.
When RP says a multi billion dollar company, does he mean in US dollars or are we talking currency from Japan or Korea. Makes quite a difference in who we are talking about.
moxa1....It's like back to the future, LOL
Yes and additional applications for the headphone, the actual PR for the OEM and the kicked up sales for Eclipse, all during the holiday season. WOW