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So much debate on what our product does and doesn't do, and does it work and do scientists and engineers have confidence in it. I'll trust the experts at the following companies, agencies and industry groups, who would not give us the time of day unless we provided real value to them (not a complete list):
Boeing (US Aerospace)
RUAG (Swiss Aerospace)
Raytheon (US Aerospace)
P4 (???)
Northrup Grumman (US Aerospace)
Meggitt (British Aerospace)
Thales (French Aerospace)
DSI (Digital Supply Chain)
Woodward (Control Systems for Aircraft, Power Generation, etc.)
Materialise (Belgian AM Software)
Alcoa (US Aluminum)
Alcoa Howmet (Superalloy Casting)
Spartacus3D (French AM, part of the Farinia Group)
Bendix King by Honeywell (US Avionics)
Solar Turbines, A Caterpillar Company (US Industrial Gas Turbines)
Aerojet Rocketdyne (US Aerospace)
Siemens (German Conglomerate)
Additive Industries (Netherlands AM Printer Manufacturer)
Parabilis (US Aerospace)
Orbital ATK (US Aerospace)
General Atomics (US Aerospace)
Vector Space (US Aerospace)
Divergent 3D (US AM Auto Manufacturer)
Millenium Space Systems (US Satellite Manufacturer)
Virgin Galactic (US Space Flight Company)
Surrey Satellite Technology Ltd (UK Satellite Manufacturer)
GE Energy (US Power Generation)
GE Aviation (US Aerospace)
Pratt & Whitney (US Aerospace)
Rolls Royce (British Aerospace)
Honeywell (US Conglomerate/Aerospace)
Vericor Power Systems (US Power Generation)
Lockheed Martin (US Aerospace)
Sikorsky (US Aircraft Manufacturer, division of Lockheed Martin)
Selmet, Inc. (US Titanium Castings for Aerospace)
TurboCare (US Industrial Gas Turbines)
PSM (US Industrial Gas Turbines)
Doncasters (UK Aerospace, Gas Turbines, etc.)
Consolidated Precision Products (US Aerospace)
Mikro Systems (US TOMO Technology)
Chromalloy (US Aerospace)
Precision Castparts Corp. (US Castings for Aerospace, Gas Turbine, etc.)
NIST (National Institute of Standards & Technology)
EWI (Edison Welding Institute)
America Makes (National Additive Manufacturing Innovation Institute)
DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency)
Nice summary of where we're at. I'm long & strong & continue to average down with another $5K purchase this morning.
Those that are anti-fact & pro-opinion are certainly going to ignore it. I hate to admit it, but too often I'm only skimming relevant articles. The true value of this board, are members like KMey, who are willing to take the time to share their expertise & DD.
Facts rule & opinions are often of no use.
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This Monday @ 4:30 PM.
Anyone here an IISE member? Need that to see this entire article:
http://www.iise.org/ISEmagazine/Details.aspx?id=44955
Authors are Vivek Dave, Nevan Hanumara (MIT guy with Cambridge Medspace) & Mark Cola
My thoughts exactly... listen to those with the credentials & the facts & try to ignore the opinions.
Still haven't answered the question:
I would love to hear a well thought out rebuttal of why all these impressive companies, agencies and industry groups are investing their hard earned $s, and time on evaluation, R&D and some purchases of Sigma's product.
I don't understand, maybe the three of you can conference call and come up with some sort of half-as$ed answer.
But definitely, the three of you should invest in established products in mature industries, only. Or at a minimum invest in something less technical and much simpler to understand.
Still haven't answered the question, let's try again:
I would love to hear a well thought out rebuttal of why all these impressive companies, agencies and industry groups are investing their hard earned $s, and time on evaluation, R&D and some purchases of Sigma's product.
Even though having a discussion with you is a colossal waste of time, I'll ask the question again. This time I will type it slower for you.
I would love to hear a well thought out rebuttal of why all these impressive companies, agencies and industry groups are investing their hard earned $s, and time on evaluation, R&D and some purchases of Sigma's product.
Alan Jr., you can easily do a search for each of those entities and Sigma Labs and you will get plenty of facts.
If anything you're consistent in rebutting facts with opinions. You're also very consistent is your lack of understanding of the AM industry. I would love to hear a well thought out rebuttal of why all these impressive companies, agencies and industry groups are investing their hard earned $s, and time on evaluation, R&D and some purchases of Sigma's product. Right now, I think I'll side with them and pass on your opinions.
This is one of the many reasons I'm here and I continue to invest in Sigma Labs.
Here are all the companies (some agencies/industry groups) listed on the Customer Growth slide from this presentation:
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I added country HQs and business sector info. (anyone know anything about P4?)
Boeing (US Aerospace)
RUAG (Swiss Aerospace)
Raytheon (US Aerospace)
P4 (???)
Northrup Grumman (US Aerospace)
Meggitt (British Aerospace)
Thales (French Aerospace)
DSI (Digital Supply Chain)
Woodward (Control Systems for Aircraft, Power Generation, etc.)
Materialise (Belgian AM Software)
Alcoa (US Aluminum)
Alcoa Howmet (Superalloy Casting)
Spartacus3D (French AM, part of the Farinia Group)
Bendix King by Honeywell (US Avionics)
Solar Turbines, A Caterpillar Company (US Industrial Gas Turbines)
Aerojet Rocketdyne (US Aerospace)
Siemens (German Conglomerate)
Additive Industries (Netherlands AM Printer Manufacturer)
Parabilis (US Aerospace)
Orbital ATK (US Aerospace)
General Atomics (US Aerospace)
Vector Space (US Aerospace)
Divergent 3D (US AM Auto Manufacturer)
Millenium Space Systems (US Satellite Manufacturer)
Virgin Galactic (US Space Flight Company)
Surrey Satellite Technology Ltd (UK Satellite Manufacturer)
GE Energy (US Power Generation)
GE Aviation (US Aerospace)
Pratt & Whitney (US Aerospace)
Rolls Royce (British Aerospace)
Honeywell (US Conglomerate/Aerospace)
Vericor Power Systems (US Power Generation)
Lockheed Martin (US Aerospace)
Sikorsky (US Aircraft Manufacturer, division of Lockheed Martin)
Selmet, Inc. (US Titanium Castings for Aerospace)
TurboCare (US Industrial Gas Turbines)
PSM (US Industrial Gas Turbines)
Doncasters (UK Aerospace, Gas Turbines, etc.)
Consolidated Precision Products (US Aerospace)
Mikro Systems (US TOMO Technology)
Chromalloy (US Aerospace)
Precision Castparts Corp. (US Castings for Aerospace, Gas Turbine, etc.)
NIST (National Institute of Standards & Technology)
EWI (Edison Welding Institute)
America Makes (National Additive Manufacturing Innovation Institute)
DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency)
Not sure if this was supposed to be a complete list, but notable omissions include: Trumpf, Sisma, Michelin, Renishaw, Moog, BMW, 3D Material Technologies, Blue Origin, Polyshape, among others. I will send an email to Brett to see.
Nothing new, but more exposure for us:
https://3dprint.com/180462/printrite3d-sigma-labs-oxys/
Yes it is:
Good catch. I'm guilty of reading too fast/skimming articles that sometimes I miss the most important parts.
I can’t speak to how much like a start-up Oxys is. I certainly don’t know a lot about them. But with Sigma, remember we are in the third phase of DARPA with Honeywell, we have a long, prestigious list of companies aligned with us. Those companies are with us for a reason.
Also Sigma can’t sit pat with what they have, they have to continue to evolve, whether that be reducing the size/integrating their sensors into the printers or expand their reach into the IIoT, Edge computing, etc. And also in my opinion, we are only partially in control of when the commercialization begins. The big boys will be the ones to ultimately decide that.
It looks to me that Giro Dibiase is more of a business type and Giro Studios has been around for a long time collaborates with MIT for video production, streaming etc. A closer look at Oxys is much more relevant as the are involved in IIoT, Edge Computing, Edge Analytics and Systems Integration Services.
http://www.oxyscorp.com/index.html
Damn you, I was just going to post that. Nevan Hanumara, PhD is also part of both Cambridge MEDspace and Oxys.
So many AM industry leaders on board with us. I suppose they are all misguided. Don't be afraid to use some facts in your rebuttals.
For the millionth time Sigma Labs is breaking new ground in a new transformative industry. They are not the ones setting the timetable. When the time comes how many of these companies, many of whom have invested time, research and $s in our product, will be on board?
GE Aviation
EOS
Honeywell Aerospace
Aerojet Rocketdyne
Farinia Group-Spartacus 3D
Woodward
GE Power & Water (Switzerland)
Siemens AG
Safran Group
Pratt & Whitney
Rolls Royce Plc
Sisma (Italy)
Michelin Fives (France)
Aspect (Japan)
Additive Industries NV
Renishaw Plc
SpaceX
Moog Inc/Linear AMS
Edison Welding Institute
Michelin Tire
Honeywell FM&T (Kansas City)
BMW
Blue Origin
Solar Turbines Inc
3D Material Technologies LLC
13D
Polyshape (France)
Layerwise (3D Systems)
Trumpf
Yeah, bad choice of words.
Yeah, I hear you & personally I try to pick my battles. I find it both annoying and amusing when debates happen and facts are countered with opinions. Bottom line is we need more people here, like you, with legitimate inside information and the willingness to go to the trade shows, etc.
Kevin, you provide great DD on Sigma & there is know doubt that you are the most well connected person here, to both Sigma & the larger AM industry. You have access to & a great understanding of, this industry. Take it as a compliment that the usually suspects come after you. You provide facts that you can back up & they provide opinions, which are usually worthless. Many here appreciate what you provide, even if they don't express it.
We announced a new version of PrintRite3D Inspect software and installed it at Honeywell's Advanced Manufacturing Engineering Center in Phoenix. It is now a cloud-based data API platform. Honeywell is one of a handful of leading firms in additive manufacturing. I would Google some of the big words in this post as well as "fluff piece."
You will be missed here. You're one of only a handful here that posts useful, factual information. It's definitely hard to ignore the jibberish (I'm certainly not good at it), but hoping that you share your DD in the future.
On a separate note, some of our competitors:
"According to the organisers, Formnext 2017 will be expanding further in measurement technology and post-processing with Faro, Joke, Nikon, Wenzel, Werth Messtechnik, to name a few and among those in software are Additive Works, Altair, Dassault Systèmes, IKOffice, MachineWorks, Sigma Labs."
http://www.etmm-online.com/growing-to-surpass-the-last-edition-a-619881/
ETMM: Engineering, Turbulence, Modelling & Measurements
Here are some thin facts as a rebuttal to some thick opinions:
GE Aviation
EOS
Honeywell Aerospace
Aerojet Rocketdyne
Farinia Group-Spartacus 3D
Woodward
GE Power & Water (Switzerland)
Siemens AG
Safran Group
Pratt & Whitney
Rolls Royce Plc
Sisma (Italy)
Michelin Fives (France)
Aspect (Japan)
Additive Industries NV
Renishaw Plc
SpaceX
Moog Inc/Linear AMS
Edison Welding Institute
Michelin Tire
Honeywell FM&T (Kansas City)
BMW
Blue Origin
Solar Turbines Inc
3D Material Technologies LLC
13D
Polyshape (France)
Layerwise (3D Systems)
Trumpf
Kmey, thanks for all your DD, which includes going to trade shows and not only talking to our folks but asking potential competitors tough questions. Also sharing info from America Makes and other sources. You're one of the few here that provides real DD. I'll take your facts over others opinions and Youtube cartoon videos.
Thanks JPI, for the additional info. It is always preferable to see Sigma's name directly in these articles, versus hidden within a team they are collaborating with. Also, after a quick look at the PDF I was concerned that Concurrent Technologies Corporation had somehow replaced us. But, after a closer look that is not an issue:
So I found the PDF that goes with that Twitter announcement:
https://www.americamakes.us/images/publicdocs/Approved_Success_Stories/1082_SuccessStory.pdf
We're not mentioned, but Edison Welding Institute (EWI) is. And states:
You really don't know how business works, do you. Your silly quote:
"They have bent over backwards to put Printrite in the hands of everyone who would accept it yet not a single meaningful order."
Sigma doesn't put their product in the hands of the likes of GEA, Honeywell, Siemens, Aerojet Rocketdyne, Woodward, etc. These companies perform exhaustive due diligence before they decide what products to evaluate/purchase.
I look forward to hearing more of your opinions. Please don't let any facts get in your way.
I'm sure your opinion makes sense to you and to a handful of others here. Opinions on an investor chat board are often misinformed, very often obviously biased, and more often than not, poorly thought out.
Here's an important fact to counter your position:
Companies, such as GEA, Honeywell, Aerojet Rocketdyne, Siemens, Pratt & Whitney, among a long list of others, don't enter into contracts/agreements with anyone, without doing extensive due diligence.
Facts matter...opinions not so much!
The analysts we should be most concerned with are the scientists, engineers, businessmen, etc., employed at the companies leading the additive manufacturing movement. The ones that are willing to sign contracts, collaborate with us, and/or evaluate our products. Here's a list:
GE Aviation
EOS
Honeywell Aerospace
Aerojet Rocketdyne
Farinia Group-Spartacus 3D
Woodward
GE Power &Water (Switzerland)
Siemens AG
Safran Group
Pratt & Whitney
Rolls Royce Plc
Sisma (Italy)
Michelin Fives (France)
Aspect (Japan)
Additive Industries NV
Renishaw Plc
SpaceX
Moog Inc/Linear AMS
Edison Welding Institute
Michelin Tire
Honeywell FM&T (Kansas City)
BMW
Blue Origin
Solar Turbines Inc
3D Material Technologies LLC
13D
Polyshape (France)
Layerwise (3D Systems)
Trumpf
I have to laugh when a thorough, well thought out post (Kmeys) based on facts is rebutted with someone's opinion based on no facts. Facts always win!
I feel your pain. I've been in for a long time. However, I've bought recently @ $3 & then doubled my position @ $2.44 last week. So my break even is now a reasonable $7. Bottom line, the companies aligned with us aren't there by accident
Good catch... Trumpf is now on the list:
GE Aviation
EOS
Honeywell Aerospace
Aerojet Rocketdyne
Farinia Group-Spartacus 3D
Woodward
GE Power &Water (Switzerland)
Siemens AG
Safran Group
Pratt & Whitney
Rolls Royce Plc
Sisma (Italy)
Michelin Fives (France)
Aspect (Japan)
Additive Industries NV
Renishaw Plc
SpaceX
Moog Inc/Linear AMS
Edison Welding Institute
Michelin Tire
Honeywell FM&T (Kansas City)
BMW
Blue Origin
Solar Turbines Inc
3D Material Technologies LLC
13D
Polyshape (France)
Layerwise (3D Systems)
Trumpf
I'll align my interests and opinions with Fortune 500 companies & the leading companies, here & abroad, adopting & pushing additive manufacturing. The same group that are aligned with SGLB. Facts are you friend.
Some are gov't contracts, some are private contracts, some are evaluation agreements, either way companies of this stature don't pull the trigger on these without a good reason. Google is your friend.
Low risk because:
GE Aviation
EOS
Honeywell Aerospace
Aerojet Rocketdyne
Farinia Group-Spartacus 3D
Woodward
GE Power &Water (Switzerland)
Siemens AG
Safran Group
Pratt & Whitney
Rolls Royce Plc
Sisma (Italy)
Michelin Fives (France)
Aspect (Japan)
Additive Industries NV
Renishaw Plc
SpaceX
Moog Inc/Linear AMS
Edison Welding Institute
Michelin Tire
Honeywell FM&T (Kansas City)
BMW
Blue Origin
Solar Turbines Inc
3D Material Technologies LLC
13D
Polyshape (France)
Layerwise (3D Systems)
I don't think they have done a PEA for La Loutre, at least I couldn't find reference to one https://www.lomiko.com/properties/loutre.html. They have done recent drilling & sampling and my understanding is they are going to take that data and perform an economic analysis to see how viable the mining is. The PEA takes into account the current price and supply of the particular mineral to makes it's conclusions regarding that particular mines economic viability.
I'm not going to give up hope that this weird company that mines and tries to sell usb hubs via Kickstarter, among other things, can't get lucky. Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every once in awhile.