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Because they started taking orders for Fli Charge on indiegogo today.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/fli-charge-fast-and-powerful-wireless-charging#/
50% of their 30-day production 'start' goal has been met in one day.
183 of the 250 'early bird packages' have already been claimed
yeah if you could see my home office, you would know why I need this. There are up to eight devices being charged on the desk, on the other table, and even on the floor by an outlet.
Note that the constellation is magnetic. You put a pad in the car and the coin or phone will stick to the pad. I know the QI devices I have don't stick. They would slide off the in the car.
Finally, it is available!
I am about to get the FLI POWER COUPLE for $249
Why delete what is accurate
I was hoping it was part of the 'sweetheart' deal with ZTE too.
I know the best technology is not guaranteed to win and there are many examples where it did not.
I understand (but some do not) that inductive and conductive are not mutually exclusive. Obviously, no matter which wireless method is built in to a phone that wire charging must also remain or otherwise the manufacturer limits the consumer's options. Will every consumer have a Qi pad available as they travel (at hotels, a rental car, grandmom's house)?
Hopefully, manufacturers realize that some consumers want (or need) a wireless conductive option built in too. Placing the constellation on the back and Qi inside covers all the bases for the consumer. FliCharge needs to get into cars, homes, libraries, universities, so there is a large set of consumers needing a conductive option and the consumer will push for the universal adoption/inclusion.
That puts the success of the constellation on Flicharge. If they don't stay ahead of this with consumers, then the manufacturers really don't need to consider including in their products. FliCharge has to be in the hypergrowth manufacturing and marketing mode today. Unfortunately, I don't know if they understand this ... we will see ...
That was just a shot at the kooks running California.
The Qi camp tries to minimize the Qi radiation threat with their electric toothbrush example. Weak example, since an electric toothbrush takes so little power (you might use one for 6 mins a day) and most people aren't near their toothbrush charger for any significant amount of time. Opposed to a big radiating pad or tabletop with enough power to charge a phone and you are sitting next to it 8 hours a day.
I haven't heard anything on the internal Qi reliability, but we all know that if it is internal and it breaks, you ain't going to get it repaired for cheap or maybe even at all.
Don't forget the heating issue with Qi charging. Qi can make the device components, especially the battery, hot which can degrade the device over time. Didn't one of the car manufacturers have to add a vent to blow air on their charging pad because it was getting extremely hot?
Still it will all come down to marketing
You never know maybe a state like CA ban Qi in public buildings because of a chance of birth defects.
Maybe Inductive will improve, but it is inferior to conductive. Less power transfer efficiency => slower charging. That's why everything is conductive now. People don't want to wait hours to charge their stuff.
I used to think wireless charging (conductive or inductive) was just a fad for the lazy, but there have been plenty of times that I have come back to a conductive charging cradle to find that someone or me didn't seat the device in there right and the contacts were off and you have a radio, game controller, etc. that you can't use.
If you can place a device on a FliCharge pad in any orientation and know that it is charging (via the constellation), then there is an advantage over both inductive wireless and conductive cradling (even conductive direct connect can damage the connection pins over time, no more wired data transfer from you tab or phone once that happens).
Marketing to make those points and then we will see what the consumers think about it.
Thanks for the reference. Oh wait you didn't provide one.
Thanks for your insight into a confidential settlement. Oh wait ...
You can say it was an infrastructure settlement with Huawei, but I understand now that it was pure conjecture.
In a confidential agreement, how was it determined that the settlement was 'infrastructure only?'
The NDA battle was over ZTE's disclosure of what VRNG was asking per handset (not just infrastructure).
I definitely missed the release from VRNG that stated ZTE settled on infrastructure only.
Can someone provide a reference related to the ZTE settlement being 'infrastructure only?'
Is it just coming from the VRNG statement "VRNG Intellectual Property consists of a portfolio of more than 600 patents and patent applications covering telecom infrastructure, internet search, ad-insertion, mobile and wire-free charging technologies?"
Excellent point
Yulong, Vivo, LG, Lenovo, Xiaomi, and Huawei are all in play, so to say 99% Huawei is a bit ridiculous with the info we have.
25% Huawei is more sensible
Even at that with similar market shares among these handset manufacturers
$8M x 6 = $48M
Infringement not dismissed, only willful infringement dismissed. Looks like Lowes needs to settle and license, otherwise we are headed to trial.
A win for VRNG
Uh oh the slope of the chart is pointing at the moon again
Playing games with the low float, eh?
What happened after hours? Just a game.
hell yeah it was!
That finish makes me think 3+ is in our near future
Compared to the market today, we are good
Longs hold tight and Shorts get cooked.
I appreciate that Spooky is a man of his word (and that he will no longer post here).
I will no longer post here is we close above 8
Damn Pumpers!
So, what is the truth? Can Apple appeal?
I think 'yes' but hope 'no'
Absolutely, why would you give up a bloated salary?
No performance based compensation here.
VHC should offer VRNG 5 per share (sure that 696M is not in the bank, appeals, etc.).
The combined company of V and V would have a lot more muscle against DTV and Chinese telecoms that need to pay up (maybe even a better, cheaper management team).
With that, VHC would have a clear path to getting their 30 million over cash value purchase cost back in a short period.
Plus, they get 100s more patents into their portfolio for cheap.
Maybe VHC will buy VRNG with their new windfall
Plus the float is so low now after the reverse split that any major news like DTV will rocket the PPS up quickly. Last time I was in a stock with a float like this we jumped from 2.50 to 11.00 in an hour before settling in at 9.00. Actually that was low float and a short squeeze. Just like the position V is in now I except, now that I think about it, the previous rocket wasn't trading at 50% below book. More power to V.
I believe 8 is more likely than .7
and 16 is more likely than .07
Chinese implosion makes me think 16 is not likely in 2016
Do your own DD!!
13% today is no surprise I am expecting 500% in 2016
Good day. Market down triple digits. V up 11%.
After the reverse split, the float is low.
Any binary event (press release) on a low float stock can rocket it way up or way down.
Oh, we are way down, so that only leaves way up or done.
I don't think they will be.
The BOD better start buying some stock if they want to vote against us who are voting against their undeserved compensation next time. tick tick tick
Other than VRNG24 (TY), does vringo have a director of communications?
If they do have one, I sure can't tell.
Weird that they don't mention Dodge as a partner or did I miss it?
Here's to conductive charging!
Down with Qi!
"If you're wondering why induction charging hasn't taken over the world, there are a few good reasons.
For a start, it's not very good. Most wireless chargers operate at about 40% efficiency, where a decent cable can provide double that amount. Low efficiency means it loses energy to heat, so devices charge slower, which results in a higher power bill when compared to physical cables. It's also more complex and therefore more expensive to manufacture. ... the most popular wireless charging standard, Qi, has recently been updated to allow a version of this to be implemented in compatible devices. The result is that the charging range has increased to a princely four centimeters."
http://mentalfloss.com/uk/physics/26648/how-does-wireless-charging-work-and-is-it-actually-safe
Fli Charge CES 2016
LVCC North Hall Booth #6519 in the iProducts section
Well, it still should be a good one. Although, the extra month wait stinks.
Well, it still should be a good one. Although, the extra month wait stinks.
Next quarterly report at the beginning of Feb.
Should be a good one.
8.00 within 3 months
Totally confident buying at these levels!
Now, a grand slam would be to get 3.5%
DTV: 555M * .035 = 19M/yr increasing
Others: 290M * .035 = 10M/yr increasing
$30M/yr for 19 years
(or at least until this delivery system is obsolete).
Now that would put the share price around $21
I think if we get $5M/yr from DTV that would be a homerun!