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There is not a dam thing any of us can do and all of the time you spend on here or any other board bashing him will amount to squat in the long run. If you are a fan of wasting time, then by all means do what you will do. It'll just give you heartburn.
"That is why Frank needs to be bashed for not disclosing when he said he would in the DVD and audit. It's true that a pink sheet doesn't need to show financials but Frank stated he would and he did not. So everybody should bash away on Frank."
and what exactly is that going to do for the pps? what is that going to do for anybody? it is just a way for you (and many others) to feel like they are taking part in the process, when in reality you are not, and cannot.
To make a somewhat viable network (it is debatable), he has had to rely on selling shares. When he no longer needs to do that, we can move on, but as long as he says "i'll sell shares to do this" we are stuck. It takes time to get over the hump.
Same old tune here I see. Lots of theories floating around, no proof. Speculation fueling the fires.
Verizon carriage..eom
So you would call getting less than what you asked for a success? You are brilliant.
My sentiments exactly. That poster is such a know-it-all.
by the way, I've watched a couple of documentaries about Ted Turner and he is a LOT like Olsen in many ways. Have you ever heard him speak? He comes across as very unpolished. He has been that way all along. Goes to show you that some people succeed regardless of their shortcomings.
Ok, smart guy, give me an example of what it means.. you didn't do that. You just used more of your fancy words.
What I see here over and over and over and over are people like yourself that have all of these great ideas about how they would or could do a better job of running this company. You and everyone else here, including myself, have no idea about what this company has done or is doing on our behalf. You talk a big game, and yes those fancy words are your tools, but they are so nebulous and meaningless in the context which you choose to use them that they are laughable.
Nobody here can make any suggestions about "corporate governance" of Q if they have no clue about it. Yes, the company is not transparent. That fact right there should put an end to all of this inane chit chat about how it can be done better. How the hell can you make suggestions if you are not privvy to the ins and outs of the company. I sure as heck wouldn't want you running any company of mine. As soon as there is one sign of trouble you'd probably look to shake things all up and take the company off course.
As I said before, you come off as someone who has a LOT of information, and that makes me wonder... you showed up here out of nowhere.
"proper corporate governance"
Fancy words, but what does it mean? How do you know that any other course would not have put us exactly where we are. I call that Monday morning quarterbacking.
I thought this was a pay channel. I don't recall many pay channels with commercials. Are you talking about another form of advertising?
Firestone may have filed this lawsuit to protect their statutes, etc. It doesn't mean that they can't still come to an agreement on a buyout, and then drop the suit.
For a company that contracts out as much as they do, this is not a lot of lawsuits. Ever look at a general contractor's list of lawsuits? They have tons of them going on all the time because they have to sub out so much of their work. Q, as we have seen in some of these filings, has spent a lot of time putting together contracts for all sorts of services. How many are there that have worked out, and that we will never hear about? The larger they get, the more exposure they have.
You spend your time going back to August 2005 to find posts from another person? wow
For pete sake Foxy, get a grip. You act like this is the first lawsuit ever filed by anyone! This happens all the time. Most never make it to trial. They settle.
You sure come across like you know a LOT. If you know so much, how did you come to arrive at this point with all of us? Why didn't you get out?
What is your background in stocks anyway?
I was all set to buy in to cmkx, but scottrade wouldn't put the order through. Guess I should send them a thank you card.
Interesting perspective. I didn't think of it that way. Well, maybe I did, but it's hard to think of it that way when you are used to coming at it another way. If he sells for many billions, it will translate to a few cents a share, and that would make most people money.
Since they aren't doing anything that we can see to raise the pps, they probably either a.) don't care, b.) have a plan and are not worried about it right now, or c.) may be abandoning these shares at some point down the road.
If I was a CEO, and the pps was a major concern to me, I'd take steps to correct it. Since little is being done, it just leads me to believe that the share situation is something they expected and it doesn't bother them too much. Hopefully it also means that they have a long-term plan to rectify it.
It's like that everywhere. Here included.
What would you call it when someone cries because they don't get what they want? I call that kindergarten mentality.
Who the hell has the gall to run out and talk trash to a vendor that Q is working with? To me that is appalling behavior undertaken by the irrational. Rush to judgment and it can hurt us ALL.
I can see how these extreme bashers develop now. They have probably just been around for a long time and developed more and more bitterness over the years. It is happening right before our eyes on this board. Interesting psychology.
So you would be willing to ruin the whole thing right now by sending out that letter? That just doesn't make sense. I am through with you. Ignore.
I sincerely hope you did NOT send that email out. It is that type of kindergarten BS that is uncalled for. I didn't like the concept of the other letter, but at least it went directly to Q. You are f'ing with their livelihood now and that is never a good thing to do.
Is it possible that they took the results of the audit to a financial institution in search of a loan to finance a large buyback? Perhaps that was part of their Nov 1 meeting. Just a thought.
merlyn, so would you go for a loan to buy back the o/s?
He can buy back 20B shares for 2 million dollars at .0001. Take on that debt to get it done??? Maybe it is worth it. Question is, how does he get his hands on that money without giving away more shares?
haha Nice.
Itesprit, just as a followup, your born-on date is October 16, 2005. More fishy....
Itesprit, it strikes me as a little bit odd that you have come in here all of a sudden with all of this so-called knowledge about what is happening. Smells fishy to me whenever someone shows up out of nowhere and starts acting like a know-it-all with regard to items that they obviously are not privy to.
So there are not really 44 billion out there in the o/s since he turned his into non-tradeable?
When did we "learn" that the o/s went up that high?
I agree. For all the bellyaching, it does nothing to change the pps. At least the DD is interesting and relevant to the growth of the company.
I know my viewpoint is the minority here, but show some respect for it is all I ask.
Sputnik, I just finished writing a LONG reply to you, but then erased it all because this whole debate is fruitless. My viewpoint will not be tolerated here and I am not looking forward to engaging in more toxic discussions. So I appreciate your question, but respectfully decline comment.
Yes, police yourself. What happens if these letters screw us all? Will the ones that didn't want a letter sue the ones that sent it? haha When does it ever end?
Well, the comments just made about my suggestion to let it sit reflect an impatient attitude (wait for audit, wait for change to another exchange, wait for ... etc.), which can come across in a letter. Laugh at me if you want and make your jokes, but as soon as you send that letter you can't get it back.
I don't know anyone here personally, so I can't say whether someone is professional or not. All I know is that nobody here speaks for me. I do not want to be represented by anyone that I don't know.
I am not in favor of sending another letter to Q. If it will be done, do it tastefully. I would suggest writing it and then let it sit for a day. Come back to it the next day and decide if it sounds professional or not. Never send off a letter when you are mad.
Like a Qristmas present? I think we'd all like that.
It is still unclear if the audit is on QTN, or on TMM. Nobody, I repeat nobody, has cleared that up yet.
You are calling him a liar based on an erroneous assertion. He did not say he would not increase the a/s. By the way smart guy, ever hear of contingency planning? Guess not.
I have invested a lot of time, energy and thought on this stock. Whereas I wish I could control my investment, I understand that I cannot in this case. For that matter, I can't control any of my other investments either. I just feel better about them because I can research the financials.
I am through beating myself up over the pps though. It is simply not worth the pain and suffering. Hopefully it goes up. That would be great, but it won't be the end of the world if it doesn't.
What do you think will happen if/when we see the audit? I am truly skeptical of the so-called money on the sidelines. Throwing a few thousand dollars at this thing can get you millions of shares right now, so wouldn't that be worth a gamble to a serious investor (assuming they had the disposable income to play with). Personally, I don't think this pps moves until Q can completely break away from any reliance on shares. Of course that means generating a revenue stream and actually paying the bills with the cash they are getting from subs. Once they can meet their obligations and turn a profit, maybe they can buy back a very large chunk of the o/s. Until then, they have that ace in the hole in the form of shares, which in my mind is a necessary evil. Issuing more into the market only prolongs the agony, it doesn't mean the problem is not fixable. Just my thoughts...