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Time for another Bud Ice, Ron - maybe the whole case this time.
Take care.
Wrong - they've most definitely heard of it.
Call 847-315-2826 and ask for Felicia. She has absolutely heard of it; we spoke at some length about it yesterday. The problem is that Nouveau is not going about things in the normal way (of establishing vendor agreements with Walgreens to carry their product).
I contacted one of Walgreens' attorneys, by the name of Shannon Couffer, last night and mentioned this fact. I haven't heard back from her but left her with the information needed to conduct further inquiry into the matter herself.
There is a product... it's just being marketed extremely poorly. So you are right about one thing, and that is that it is a joke at this point. Hopefully that turns around as a result, at least in part, of the concerted efforts of investors such as ourselves to apply pressure where it's needed - mostly on the leadership team of Nouveau, not Walgreens.
I get where Navy is coming from and I accept his answers - we just are in different camps, he and I, that's all. If I were in his camp, I'd probably feel as he does, and it's not so much a matter of him switching back and forth but of having been initially very positive but now very negative (toward HRID). His reasons, as he has explained them to me before, stem from not accepting their lack of performance or failure to deliver on promises/projections (although his recent comments have also had to do with the issue of dilution). He has also always emphasized his interest in trading, not holding. To him, it no longer represents a good trading stock (at the present time). If anything changes for the better then he may be willing to trade in it once more. I accept that.
However I'm inclined to agree with you. There's something here that IS going on - it just doesn't add up very well. It may not be fraudulent, but it still isn't very positive. Shareholders have been losing either way.
I emailed an attorney, last night, who represents Walgreens. I am hoping to hear back from her regarding her findings (in the matter of Nouveau's claims that they have entered into vendor-agreements with Walgreens to sell Azul Instant in their Florida stores, initially - something that does not appear to be accurate. I'll keep those on this board informed as I hear anything. In the mean time, if anyone else wishes to contact her, her name is Shannon Couffer; she can be reached at shannon.couffer@walgreens.com .
Will do. I sent an email to Shannon Couffer late last night, and invited her to reply back at some point. I'm not expecting anything much in the short term other than perhaps an acknowledgement, but perhaps down the road I will hear back from her in more detail. If I do, I will certainly share that information here on this board.
Cheers.
Navy is correct folks - at least about the contact he made with Walgreens. It needs to be known that Nouveau Life does not have, at the present time, any agreement with Walgreens that Felicia (referenced in Navy's post on Mar. 23) or anyone in her department is aware of. They (Nouveau) have been attempting to sell Azul Instant directly to individual store managers ... not the way, as Navy said, that business is normally done.
Two things strike me as noteworthy here, and believe me - I am no expert on any of this so please feel free to reply and/or correct me if anything strikes you differently:
1. They actually do appear to have a product to sell. There'd be no need going to the trouble of making an actual suit representing the emperor's new clothes if all they're intent on doing is creating the illusion.
For a P&D scam - which is what many are suggesting this is - would there really be any point producing an actual product? Traditionally these scams involve nothing more than lots of hype (which we certainly see, and which hopefully no one is fooled by) followed by a massive sell-off once a target pps has been reached. Well - we saw the “meteoric” rise a while back, followed by the sell-off, but what explains the current state of affairs... a desire to embark on "round two"? Would they be so foolish to try, and would they work at developing an actual product if they were?
2. It is obviously poor form, and extremely disheartening that the company would go about things in this amateurish way if they do indeed have a product to sell... one that may, in fact, represent a legitimate success if it were marketed properly. I am therefore increasingly of the belief that things here may not necessarily be fraudulent so much as they are being woefully mishandled. Gong show... amateur hour... call it what you will, but it's extremely disappointing to say the least.
I, too, called Felicia at Walgreens today and spoke with her at length about this. She gave me the name and email address of a Walgreens attorney that she recommended I speak with. This woman’s name is Shannon Couffer; she can be reached at shannon.couffer@walgreens.com . I am going to write her about the PR’s that indicate Nouveau has an agreement with Walgreens to begin distributing Azul Instant throughout their Florida stores. If there is anything fishy to these press announcements, and there appears to be, then Walgreens’ legal dept. will get after them.
I also told Chrissy (over @ Nouveau) that we – the investors – are not going to lay down on this. I told her that they can expect this sort of action if they don’t come up with some transparency soon. If they’re legit, then perhaps they’ll wise up to how business ought to be conducted. If they’re fraudulent, then the Florida state attorney’s office, together with state and federal securities regulators will be all over them before they can release their next fluff piece. It may not be enough to undo any damage already suffered by unwitting investors but if, in fact, there is any illegal scheme that is being perpetrated then this action, once initiated, will no doubt shut them down.
Still hoping they’re legit…
Great post, with some very strong points made. I appreciate and agree with everything you said.
This is a good thing to see at this time. Without a doubt, all of us here (and many others, we can assume) have been very frustrated over the past two months. Things have not occurred as hoped, and in some cases, as announced.
One of the most important aspects of the company's business that has been placed in question as a result of this has been its legitimacy. The lack of transparency, coupled with the ever-lengthening delays in waiting to hear of actual product-delivery and sales, has caused investors to not only regard their losses with deep regret, but it has also caused them to be highly skeptical, and even angry, when pondering the true nature, and agenda, of the company.
This information & disclosure statement, while not qualifying as "news" per se, is nevertheless a very positive thing at this time because it serves to restore some of the lost sense of credibility. In other words, it's not merely another ball of fluff coming at us via PR Newswire. And while it doesn't really tell us much, it should at least serve to prove to those who fear that this is nothing more than a P&D scam that it is not.
What I believe is going on here is a situation in which the company has experienced delays and has no doubt been experiencing frustrations of their own, but they have not handled these things well. As someone else posted recently, this CEO has perhaps learned a few important lessons about the manner in which to properly guide a publicly-traded company - coming, unfortunately, at the short-term expense of some shareholders.
It hasn't been easy or fun for those people, but for those like myself, who are long on this, it has been more frustrating than it has been costly. For me, "costly" happened, on paper, a long time ago; if anything I feel like there is still much hope for this pig to fly (and for people like myself to gain from an investment - made a long time ago - that was all but lost until recently).
Definitely better "news" than we have received in a while.
Ron - there's no need to be offensive in your comments. This board is for everyone - you have as much right to post on here as anyone else - however your posts seldom express anything intelligent. Most of the time you just refer to this stock as a POS and vent about how much you regret ever having bought it. And then when someone responds to you, you insult him by calling him a stupid idiot.
You know, Ron, no one here is attempting to act as your investment counsellor. Sell... hold... that's your decision, not ours. But one thing that none of us want or should have to put up with is your frequent vulgarity and rudeness. People are here to dialogue, and at times express different opinions that they can discuss maturely and respectfully with one another.
However, between drinking way too much Bud Ice, informing us all of when and how often you intend to be intimate with your wife, and then insulting others who respond to your posts - you don't exactly contribute greatly to the discussion. So if you intend to hold until you recover your investment then good for you; you do that. No one's trying to either persuade or dissuade you from doing anything. But stop with the offensive posts already. They're neither needed nor appreciated, and they only serve to make you look exactly like what you've been calling others.
Start phoning, folks. I did (again) this morning and once again was told that I would need to leave a message for "Nancy". This time it was "Chrissy" who took my call. I leveled with her and told her that I've done this before (left messages for "Nancy"), but to no avail. I asked if she was away on vacation. I was told that she was "in", but not at the moment. I was also told that she wasn't in at all yesterday, which is why I hadn't heard from her after leaving a message on Monday.
I should back up at this point to say that when my call was first answered I actually asked for Mr. Cadena. Much to my surprise, Chrissy asked me to hold while she put my call through. The phone rang several times before I was eventually directed to the voicemail of... guess who... "Nancy".
I hung up and called back immediately. Chrissy answered again and I told her what had just happened and that I was frustrated because of the situation. I also went on to say that I was speaking for many who are growing very restless over the current state of affairs - particularly the difficulty in being able to obtain any real worthwhile information from anyone associated with the company (i.e. "Nancy").
I told her that many are using the words "sham", "scam", "flim-flam", etc., and to that she replied that they have indeed heard that from many. All she could do, however, was to offer to take my number and leave a message for... "Nancy".
So start phoning, folks - often... daily, if you can. There needs to be a concerted effort, here, to apply pressure on their office staff until they are tired of answering our calls and decide to do something to address our concerns (other than just directing us to leave messages for "Nancy").
Time for us to be squeaky wheels, here. Do not let up, either; keep the pressure on them until we get the desired results.
I would agree with that, heart, but in addition to that am calling on all on this board who have the time to phone their offices to do so. The phone number is 954-903-2993. I have done this a few times and am always directed to speak with "Nancy", only she's never there... you have to leave a message (which she never returns). I told "Cindy" the last time I phoned, on Monday, that I don't think "Nancy" exists; either that or that is one long vacation she's on.
The company's website also hasn't changed since December (you can see it here at www.hybridfuelsinc.com/ - it says at the bottom that it's "under construction" ). The press releases may be accessed via the menu on the left but that is the only component of the site that ever changes. The old Hybrid logo remains, and the main message that you're greeted with refers to the appointment of the new CEO (very old news already). Overall it looks very amateur.
Over on the Azul website ( azulnow.com - which you cannot even link to from the Hybrid site), there is a phone number as well as an email address shown at the top of the page as ways to contact the company. I have tried them both. The email address is invalid, and calling the phone number results in a machine immediately engaging to record your message... no human being there to take your call. The outgoing message does not identify the company (even I leave a better message on my machine so that callers know who they've reached) so admittedly I haven't bothered to leave a message there.
No matter what is or isn't actually happening behind the scenes to get their product to market, these things represent very poor PR and do not effectively promote the company. Very disappointing.
So I urge as many as have the time and are willing to do so, to call 954-903-2993. Tell "Cindy", or whoever answers, that you do not want to leave a message for "Nancy" as you know this will prove fruitless. She will no doubt tell you that this is your only option, and that she has several other calls coming in so she cannot stay on the line and answer any further questions. At the very least, she is an actual person who DOES answer the phone each time - usually on the first ring - so that seems positive (a company running a complete scam probably wouldn't have someone doing this, although they might, I suppose, just to keep up appearances). If nothing else happens as a result of our phone-campaign we can at least drive "Cindy" crazy enough, and show her that we're serious enough, that something gives/breaks in terms of how they deal with legitimate inquiries (including, for that matter, inquiries about their legitimacy, as it were).
It's worth a shot so phone today, if you can, and keep it up over the next little while until we see some positive results arising from our efforts.
I hope you're right... I think we all do. The difference amongst all of us rests not in what we each hope for but in what we each believe. At this point there are many who are, no doubt, distrustful toward the company - particularly when they issue a release such as today's. Therefore until we actually see proof that the product has in fact been distributed to stores, for sale - as you said - we will continue to be skeptical, at best.
I have remained optimistic all along and have perhaps been willing to cut them more slack than most others when it comes to the present state of affairs. However, I, too, am becoming more concerned with the passing of time - not so much due to any delays in shipping the product or finalizing the name-change but due to the fact that information is not readily available and no one at the head office returns calls or emails (an invalid email address (Azul) and a website that doesn't show any signs that it actually IS under construction haven't helped either).
To wit - how many of you out there have attempted to speak with "Nancy" only to discover that she's not in and that you'll have to leave a message (that is not returned)? This, more than anything else, has been a source of frustration for me.
Anyone else?
Well-observed. I agree with you (and with navy commander) regarding the need for some bonafide achievements. Whereas I think it's possible he may have gotten the idea that I was not in tune with his comments, I actually do agree; I'm simply taking a patient approach to this, being as I am, in fact, a "long-time holder" of this stock.
Right now the market is indicating that a lot of confidence has been lost; navy mentioned that, himself, with respect to his own level of confidence moving forward with this. It's not hard to see why, either. Things haven't happened according to schedule, and this has undoubtedly had a negative impact on the pps. There is even growing unrest, I sense, regarding the legitimacy of the company and its business.
One thing that the completion of the name-change will do, besides directly boosting investor-confidence in the short-term, is to address the legitimacy issue in a very significant (and at the present time - much needed) way. When the name-change finally comes through, it will mean that the company has been scrutinized at a few different levels of approval, so that will be a big, big step in terms of helping to legitimize the company in the minds of investors and potential investors alike.
This is why I said that, in my opinion, the name-change needs to be completed first. For all we know, this could even be the reason that we are experiencing delays in product-delivery; the company may be waiting until this process is complete. We don't know; that's the problem. But like you, I look forward to kickoff. Hopefully it will be a great game.
Fair enough (re. the Advent promo).
You're more experienced than I am in this arena and it has evidently served you well. Your observations haven't fallen on deaf ears. I may simply have more patience when it comes to watching and assessing these sorts of developments from a start-up enterprise (remembering that this is what they are).
The promos are what they are; take them or leave them. But Hybrid/Nouveau is not the first company to ever run into a snag that led to questions or concerns about their operations. It could simply be a case of circumstances beyond their control as far as the placing of the product in stores is concerned; that or the fact, as I postulated, that they are waiting on the name-change to occur first.
It would be nice, wouldn't it, if every company/gov't./individual (for that matter) was always bang-on with respect to every claim they made. Now THAT would be El Dorado. Unfortunately, that isn't the case. Therefore I may be unduly optimistic with respect to HRID, but I am not of the opinion that they are selling snake-oil just because their initial product-launch hasn't appeared in stores yet and is therefore "late". Don't get me wrong - I'm not hailing them as a bonafide success ; I'm simply not prepared to declare them a fraud or a failure yet either. The jury's still out, and perhaps that's all I've been wanting to make a case for. They are innocent until proven guilty , and despite all the nay-saying - they have not been proven guilty... only late.
I appreciate the discussion and look forward to continuing it.
P.S. I hope, for your sake, that you're never late for an engagement or in delivering on a promise. That would make for some "splainin'" that I'd love to hear.
Glad to see that you don't hold them accountable for every single factor involved in their start-up operations, whether within their immediate control or not.
Promos - why not... especially if they know more than I do about what to expect in the near future? What company doesn't, or wouldn't, do that to enhance its success as a business and bring additional value to their shareholders?
The projections were those of a third party (Advent), not their own.
Thank you for your answers. I appreciate the reply.
I was afraid I may have used the term "day-trader" incorrectly so thanks for clearing that up. What I meant was "days" trader, I suppose (but emphasizing what I would still consider to be very short periods of ownership).
I'm not trying to be antagonistic - I trust you realize that. I'm merely curious as to why you post so often, and so negatively, rather than just move on - particularly if, as you say, you've done well and don't need for this to do anything further for you.
I really don't think that posting in red, using caps, and throwing in the flashy clip-arts and gifs is really necessary, is it? Suit yourself - it's not for me to advise another on how they should go about posting, but since we all get that you are unimpressed with this company, how about you simply discuss this with the rest of us rather than try to steer people away from this company (not what you're attempting to do, I'm sure, but undoubtedly the overall sense that you are giving people). To vent frustration is one thing; to post as you do is another.
Lastly - one sees the glass as half-empty; another sees it as half-full. Who's correct? They both are. We all know that no matter what happens in terms of product-delivery to the marketplace, the push upward hinges on the name change. I doubt that we'd see the same results if Hybrid Fuels brings Azul to the marketplace as opposed to Nouveau Life Pharmaceuticals bringing it there. Unless I am way off on this, this is what is needed first. For all we know, this could be the very thing that is delaying shipment of the product. They are in no rush over this, nor should they be.
So how about we give this a chance and not treat it as though it has already failed. I, for one, don't hold them to the day as far as making good on their announcemnets regarding product-delivery (i.e "four weeks") or anything else for that matter. We'll all lose our minds if we watch this by the hour and expect such perfect performance. So to say that they have done nothing to warrant your confidence is an expression of an opinion that you are entitled to; I simply beg to differ with you on this, as do many others.
Not antagonistic... just expressing a different (and more optimistic) opinion.
Respect.
I agree (about what's needed) and hope you are right (about things blasting off). As for the history lesson - the previous respondent had asked about my reference to a reverse acquisition having taken place; I figure that many knew about this already (you, yourself, mentioned it last July, I believe, if not earlier) but was just responding back to him.
On another note - because I'm presently limited to 3 posts/day, having just joined, I have to try to get the most bang out of them for now (I understand it's supposed to rise to 15, without having to sign up for a premium membership... is that right?). So the other thing I wanted to say, in relation to my description of where I'm coming from on this one is that...
I get that most here have come on board only recently and are looking for a quick flip on a "penny" stock; nothing wrong with that - I might be doing that too if I was only nosing around at it for the first time right now. However as there are some of us who have been around since the early days of Hybrid, and who had believed strongly in its original business plan and the related science/tech., it's not the same situation at all for us. Exiting at .08, or .10, or .15, etc. is not going to cut it for those of us who bought in years ago at higher entry points than these and who have been sitting on significant paper losses for a long time. So while I truly am envious of those who have an opportunity to get in at current levels on something brand new, and make a nice turnaround once we see this kind of pps - my friends and I need much more. And I, for one, believe that Nouveau will have as much upside potential as Hybrid ever promised - probably more. In the early days, we believed that HRID had the potential to be a multi-dollar stock (it was at one time). I believe that it has that potential once again, thanks to the takeover and subsequent new direction; I do not believe that .88 is going to be the ceiling on this for the next five years. So I couldn't be happier as I watch the developments and patiently wait for things to come to fruition.
Sometimes it seems ridiculous to me how some of the other posters appear to be watching this by the hour and freaking out if it either inches up or inches down a little – declaring the company and its stock a “POS” because they haven’t turned a profit yet. But then I remember that we are in very different positions, and I try to see things in this light. The flipper is hoping for a quick profit and is, by nature, a more antsy sort of investor. However I have to laugh when I read about their paper losses. Things haven't even really started to happen yet, yet they’re concerned about how much they’re down or else the fact that they’re not up as much as they’d hoped for by now. By comparison - try being down nearly 100% over a span of years on a VERY sizeable investment in a company that lapses into a shell. This is what happened to a few of us. Thus the fact that we now see an actual light at the end of the tunnel is a huge positive… a “POS” of a much better sort.
So relax people. Let's give this a chance and not treat it like an overdue library book (navy commander). It's fine to have different objectives, but let's not make a habit of pronouncing doom and gloom for something that is just getting off the ground. Some of us are in it for the long haul (and have been already for a very long time), and are thrilled with what’s shaping up on the horizon; therefore today’s pps doesn’t matter one iota to us. Our gaze is fixed further ahead.
My two cents.
Cheers, everyone, and respect to all.
(Again - sorry about the length. Hopefully the limit will be raised soon, if I understood things correctly).
Please pardon the length of this post, as it is quite long.
Hybrid Fuels "acquired" EMG Marketing Solutions and is in the process of being renamed to Nouveau Life Pharmaceuticals (as I'm sure all here know). The truth is that Hybrid was dead in the water and was existing only as a shell. Therefore, unless I am mistaken (and I'm willing to be corrected if I am) - it was actually EMG that acquired this shell and which is the reason that any previously-existing HRID shareholders have any hope today of reclaiming what they had all but given up on in terms of ever seeing any value restored. Hybrid certainly didn't have the wherewithal to acquire anything or anyone else; their shares were almost worthless and there was no activity. They had less in the bank than my daughter who just started a part-time job recently.
Together with others that I know, some of us have been around almost since the beginning. I don't know if you can still find much online regarding the history of Hybrid Fuels but they were obviously not a company involved in pharmaceuticals back then. Poor management and a lack of drive to see the plan through left us in limbo - hoping that one day we might be acquired, as a shell, and turned into something else... giving us new life. "Nouveau life" couldn't be any more apropos as it indeed has given us a shot at new life.
A close friend who used to be the IR officer, and another who was a former CEO, each had tremendous difficulty obtaining any information from the co. execs. for the last few years prior to what's just taken place since December. None of my emails or phone calls were returned, either, from at least 2008 on; the company website was yanked, and for all intents and purposes the co. ceased to exist. My friend, who was the CEO of Hybrid Fuels Inc. in the mid-2000's, told me in Sept. of 2010 that the best thing that could happen to us would be for a shell takeover - otherwise he had written off his investment in the company (which was substantial).
Then in December, a friend and I both noticed the PR that indicated that we had "acquired" this company - EMG. There is no way that this could have happened except that it was a reverse acquisition/merger... call it what you like. I am not an experienced/very active investor - just a long-time one. I hope that I haven't mistakenly used the wrong terminolgy here - but this is what I believe must have happened, based on my understanding of what is involved in, and what are the signs of, a reverse acquisition.
I'm new here but not new to HRID. I'm just wondering if there are any others on this board who are around from the "old days" (i.e. early 2000's) - long, long, long before the first whisper of "Nouveau Life".
With all due respect to each one here, and certainly no offense intended, most of the posts I read here (more like all) seem to be from investors who have only been around for a very short time and whose views/interests seem decidely different from the HRID investors I've known for so long.
So if there are any who have been with this company for more than just a few weeks or months, and who understand (are are immensely thankful for) what has happened in terms of the reverse acquisition that has put us in this position and given us this new-found hope, then please speak up. I'm interested in hearing from you.
Thanks.