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Yep, 75% of my CTs are lehnq. I hadn't remembered the particular cusips, thx cam, zxc
Context? Are the CTs isin 52520X208?
How bout your whisperer?
But Merril Edge Response to Nellafom indicates JPM as property trustee, as well?
Is there any chance of mis-communication? Would Ann actually recognize LehnQ, LehLQ, etc?
I'd say between..., most of the other barclays info is 5 yrs old.
Actually, write them back, and reference the message from Andy Patsy, from BNYM, who directly names them.
Tell them Epiq hasn't got a clue. Kimberly was probably chuckling as she typed that.
You and CatDaddy might coordinate on this, or let Cat forward his message.
Huh, did dade delete his own post?
Dnoto's post 24942, describes customer property return. If the unpaid bondholders from catdaddy's conversation have in fact not been paid, are they part of the "General creditors" that are now only starting to be paid? Claims are getting eliminated, are the bondholders in question on an allowed claim, or only tentative (yet to be approved or killed)?
Here's to hoping that the 53 busd is not just property return, guess it must not be.
Still seems there is more than enough, but should we curb our enthusiasm a wee bit?
None taken, plus it was a manhattan, not a martini, I think ;)
I haven't had a martini since the 10th grade. Do you click random links that provide zero context?
Oh, and no, not too early for an F&Fer :P
Pardon me, sir, but is it not bad form to post links sans summary?
Don't want to catch e-herpes, you know.
We still need to confirm the jpm rumor
Don't we have a contact at BNYM? They might not provide names, but they may provide institution sizes, and industries they are in
Record date, is what you're thinking of, and it occurs at a set date once per period, usually per quarter, and usually stated in prospectus.
If you've held CTs since fall 2008, your ownership would in fact be reflected in each record date since then. I've owned since fall 2011, so if the back divi happens, which I doubt (re-allo), I can expect 5 or 6 divvies.
Why not call that the earliest date? Need more info.
I think that would be a great sticky, if someone with solid info made the post. Perhaps include basics, such as allowed claims, %POR paid off, %POR remaining. Hyperlinks that reference specific pdfs, with page & section info. etc, etc
Thanks, basha. True story from nyc tonight (visiting mom-in-law). Was walking back from dinner and passed a tower development called "Archstone Camargue". After all the reading today, yesterday, I literally lol'd right there on 2nd&83rd.
wife asked why, and I said, 'oh, I'll tell you later'
I thought there were 52 million CT shares, between all four, 8, 12, 16 & 16 mill shares
Ah well, what's 100 million between friends?
1.3 busd
For you and for me
And all the CTs
To be free.
No idea as to the rest of pfds and common
How many CT shares does BNYM own? Just curious
Cat, CT holder here, can you pm me your thoughts on Arr? I held back in 2011 long enough for one div, then sold and got into lehman, lol. Looking to put a little money here, or in IGD
thanks for any insights you care to share.
What about if the debtor is a business, and the chapter 11 plan is a straight reorganization? Why is tgat iteration not addressed, is that a #4 or what. I like this reading, can you link to it, mik?
LD, 20¢ is a 1%er, like you, but not a full-bird super-goober like someone with 1% of each CT.
It's been 4 and more years in the making. For the last 4+ years, F&F have been a monopoly. Every mortgage that F&F have purchased, and that is ~90% of the market, give-or-take, for the last 4 years are practically deep-fried gold, in terms of soundness, and they are now riding the swell of the inevitable.
Fannie also posted a record breaking single qtr earnings just a week or so ago.
They still have more DTAs to use, and then the question of un-used loss reserves. If they stay profitable, which is most likely, those reserves » REVERSE.
Two things holding them back:
1 the threat of some arbitrary political machination by us gov, namely gop driven, but the left is derpy on this, too. Nice to see bi-partisanship, lol.
2 terms of august 17th agreement do not allow for F&F to reduce debt principle, so that ~59 or so BUSD they just laid on the table is considered a dividend. Reversing loss reserves, giving money back they never spent? Dividend. Thankfully the press, even the WSJ, are using the phrase "net investment", so the financial media are keeping score. It's common knowledge that F&F are paying back like gang-busters, and the moment "net investment crosses into a profit for the us gov, shyt will get real interesting.
It is truly, in the words of the great Mbersimenko, a "hero or zero trade". Only now, zero got much more expensive. Myself, camaro, twenty cents, and der goober-meister devil himself, all got in well under a buck. But really, they could fall just as catastrophically as they rose.
If ya got 30k you were going to spend on hookers and blow anyhow, I'd say your money would be better spent on f&f, but otherwise, well, no angels have been seen treading the shark infested waters of the F&F saga.
Little devils, if/when you see this, please email me at ace_of_wands at yahoo etc, thx boss.
Yes, beta, there's been a lot of chatter in here over precisely the possibility of accumulated divvies.
Whether that document, beta, lives thru bk exit unscathed, is the argument.
I think 3rd qtr this year is the fabled 20th qtr limit, someone correct me if wrong.
Of course, but they are generic shareholders. Solyndra's creditors would be similar shareholders. nvm, I should review your whole recent dialog before commenting further.
Sorry, auto, but I don't think Solyndra ever went public, no ipo ever cleared the gates, .., so no shareholders there, common or pfd, anyhow. Not sure of your topic, but you may need to consider the above.
I am nearly 100% confident on that.
(editted for better-ness) :P
I bet we'll be at 25000 by june 6 or 7; and ~27000 by july 9 +/- 250 posts.
That's all I'm wagering on, though.
Stock', it seems to me the CTs were little known even among pfd holders. Their distinction was never plain to see until regular pfds got OBS'd. Many small fishies, like ourselves, who were in Leh pfds may not even realize the CTs still trade. Who knows, I guess.
We'll stick around here until most refugees are accounted for.
Hudduh needs a hug, and apparently multiple ids?
And we need a new place to live.
Hud, most of us bought at or below 80¢ (50s), half that for the 25s.
I'm only up some 823%, so yea, I still have some holding to do. Only ~5000% to go.
Well, There is what I emailed about. And another one of us has something in mind. We have time enough to catch breath.
OT -heard they had someone in custody. Have to update myself I guess.
Regarding ignore vs counter, I think if we all became moderators, and shut "it" down with clear cut rationalizations, we could be more pro active against invasive species.
Only depends on how many can become mods at once, I think 4 at least
Only thing I can think of, let go, is for all us to apply as moderators.
Requires 4 posts, that are on topic.
Blew was on topic, but zero quality. It was enough to let them in, and then they started 'moderating' everyone else.
I don't think bleu could be jö stöx, anyone else?
Testing, the fnmas board is falling apart, moving here to discuss f&f
I don't see how zandi can be any more aggressive with the banks than the crackdown that already has them squealing.
plus, republicans have been shutting down appointments at every opportunity, if they don't love outright Zandi, he's not going anywhere near fhfa, right?
The day we got delisted, phew, yea I could have fed Rosie to the fishes. lol
Did she even say so much as bye, or just vanish?
Got it, lake. If the board packs up in the middle of the night, i'll drop a line, same as last time.
Dang auto correct exchanged slap, for 'also', hence 'also yourselves', lol, fixed.
That is some cask-strength derp right there.
current system encourages home upkeep - house condition improves, value increases, home-owner is motivated.
'the editors' idea would share that benefit of home upkeep/improvement with the bank. ...,
that is nothing short of communism, WITHOUT the hypothetical benefit to society, (ie state distributing wealth to serve the greater purpose). Home-owners would be throwing bricks through their own windows the day they moved in.
Gotta be kidding me, bloomberg. Seriously, take a deep breath, through your nose, and slap yourselves. You'll thank me.