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That'd be nice, but I've been through quite a few rounds of QUTR "pops" followed by the same old lows more times than I'd like to admit, so I'm not holding my breath. If it happens like we all want it too, it will be a pleasant surprise.
Or, old investors possibly seeing a buying opportunity. That was more likely. As an example, on March 17 I purchased 55,555 more shares @.002. That spike was due to my purchase. Just saying the spike was not necessarily due to NEW investors.
You first.
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That's quite a claim you are making. What intel do you have to support that?
That's much like where I am at. I've sold some shares, but holding I'm holding the bulk. If Tobin and Chance4 are right, then I'll have a much nicer retirement then I already have, minus the health issues.
Quture's QualOptima Connectivity and Analytics System certainly sounds like a good mechanism that could improve managed care in the US. It all makes sense and it is tempting to want to be part of the possibilities and it would be nice to see it all come to fruition.
I just don't think it will materialize.
What you are suggesting is not a popular opinion on this board. However, I agree there's reason to suspect quite a few things are not ringing true here. I have thought that and written about that for a long time now, but folks on the hub don't want to hear it. They just want this to pay big and are not open to the fact that it may be scam city. It also may be legit, but has given very little reason to think that it is despite LF's tweets and well-written articles.
I asked a long time ago why QUTR or Landon's well-written and informative articles are not to be found in either the American Journal of Medicine or the International Journal of Medicine. Those are GOOD questions regardless of what my haters on this board will indicate. If this was really worth its salt, it'd have been written about a very long time ago. It's nowhere to be found in any scholarly journal anywhere. Certainly gives me pause for thought.
At present, it seems to me LF is playing everyone. But again, folks will tell me to get off the board if I'm so down on it. Well, it's my right to be here, it's my right to voice my opinion, and it's my right to offer warning if I think this is scam city.
Scam city? There's really NOTHING here that any seasoned stock holder will say are reasons to invest. Sometimes some gamble and take a risk or two, but again, there's way too many missing pieces for anyone with investment sense to throw their money at this.
And one of the largest gains in the Dow ever!
I had a moment there where I thought you might actually have made some astute comments for once, Tobin. You did in fact, albeit brief.
I'll bet I own more shares of QUTR than you do. Do you have more than 800000 shares? If so, then I am wrong to say I own more than you.
Still, there's NOTHING wrong with me trying to bring some reality into the picture. Most of that reality, you captured on you brief stint at being astute (i.e. no filings, no clients, no real revenues). That's just the tip of the iceberg. There's lots more in this that isn't adding up. I've posted on much of it. There's a lot more that doesn't add up than I have posted.
It's ok to dream and to dream big. That's why we're ALL here. Right? However, I will say that you must dream BIG intelligently. Otherwise, you're putting in the garbage your hard earned funds. That's for you to do if you decide that's how you want to play it. But there's ABSOLUTELY NOTHING wrong with me trying to calm the wave of enthusiasm when I think folks are getting way too excited over a few tweets and well-written articles by LF.
I'l not claiming LF doesn't know his stuff. He certainly does! But he has made quite a few claims over the last 5 years that were fictitious, or overblown. That's a fact!
I'm retired so I've paid great attention to my 403(b) over the last 25 - 30 years, and have frequently reviewed a large variety of mutual funds. You?
Anyway, rather than take a cheap shot back at you, I'll simply say that I will repost your post as a reminder in a month to three months from now when this thing is back in/or close to the trips.
Sorry to burst your bubble but you get all stirred up every time LF teases you with some print. The pps goes up a few hundredths of a point and you think it's game time. Now that is the excitement of inexperience partner! And then you get even more excited when other folks get excited as you are. Kind of frenzied behavior. And when someone like me says, "Slow down, pony", and, "Be careful with your money", you get all annoyed and pissy like a teenager.
If this does sustain a climb for a period of 3 months, I'll eat my words and tell you and the iHub world that you called it! What will you do if I'm the one that's right? Yeah, that's what I thought. Nothing.
You voted for Hillary, didn't you?
Seems to have been a short run. Will we be stepping back from this pps? History says "Yes". I am hopeful this is a brief stall and that we see more action this week. Again, if history holds true, that's not likely.
I hate to say it was barely above that all along. But hardly anybody wants the truth.
I actually made a little over a grand selling individual lots that were in the profit side. So I'm glad for that, but pretty much knew it was a dog and got out in time.
Yes, I remember seeing that prior to the event 4 years ago. Honestly, that means nothing now unless the listed goals come to fruition, at which point it will have been a fortuitous statement. We can hope it comes true.
That's a good find! Hopefully, there's substance to that publication.
Thanks for not taking offense to my opinion!
I'd like that, but am not holding my breath. I am suspicious in nature, and think LF has given plenty of reason to be skeptical. I'll happily admit my judgement is erroneous if this takes off - and I will definitely do so. I'll have quite a payday if it does, so it won't hurt me to make that admission and congratulate everyone. But I don't think anyone here should hold their breath for me to make that admission because rigor mortis is the third stage of death which is a strong possibility here since I don't think this will take off. Too many unconnected pieces for this to fly.
Point taken.
Tell you what Mr. Brain. I've written down your post number so I can repost it 3 weeks from now, 3 months from now, and 3 years from now when this is still in the same sad shape it's in now. What will you say then, Mr. Brain? I know, I didn't need to ask. You'll write the same shit you do now and pump to newbies same as you do now and have always done. How many times over the last 4 years have you made fantastical claims that this was moving and would make folks rich? I ask because I lost count.
In spite of the haters (of me) I can't help to say this smells like any other pump and dump. If she's back to .001 or sub .001 in the next three weeks, how could anyone with a few pennies for brains think otherwise?
Been a long time since I visited this hub. Wow...This has gone nowhere. What a surprise!
Maybe not...
Yes. I contacted them(by phone) myself as well as soon as information was written about the connection. But it was a weird exchange. The guy that answered the phone said he was wasn't sure and he had to ask someone. He did so but that person didn't know either. He then told me he would find out and get back to me and asked me my email address. I gave it to him.
The next day I received an email from the same guy indicating they had a business relationship with QUTURE. That was all the email said.
My memory of this event is cloudy due to a disease that I have, but it was pretty close to this as best as I recall.
Yes, I've read Landin's stuff - all of it. I've also scoured Intersystems website. Interesting they make absolutely NO mention of QUTURE.
You shouldn't assume I haven't read anything. When what's in print actually begins to materialize, then I'll get excited.
Might be unlikely, but you should not assume the worst of me, not that I give a rats ass. This stock has been in the same mode for years. There are no financials or any filings with the SEC whatsoever. Read below and educate yourself. See if any of the following rings true for QUTURE.
How to identify a scam:
Press releases that are issued to create a buzz about a company. Upon close examination, these press releases are short on details and long on unrealistic promises. They provide just enough information to whet an investor's appetite.
Announcements that an obscure under capitalized company is about to become a player in a cutting edge industry.
Internet message boards used to tout or attack a company. Message boards have become a haven for zealots who are prepared to defend worthless companies, even though every available fact indicates that the company has virtually no chance of success. They offer little opportunity for honest debate; just a forum for a company's fans, where negative messages are labeled as "bashing" and critics of the company are accused of undermining the stock.
Claims that an obscure company is poised to capitalize in a "hot" sector.
Companies claim to have relationships with better known, successful businesses. Usually, these relationships are non-existent or insignificant.
The company being promoted does not file regular public financial reports with the SEC.
The company being promoted has negligible assets or revenues.
There has been unusual, excessive trading in a stock.
There have been sudden dramatic price swings for the stock of a company with no track record, discernible business or demonstrated revenues.
The Company routinely uses Form S-8 to register shares for insiders, employees or consultants. Form S-8 allows companies and promoters to flood the marketplace instantly, with registered shares that have been issued to anonymous individuals and companies.
A company with little operating history employs numerous consultants and awards them shares.
The company has engaged in one or more reverse-mergers.
The company has offshore investors whose principals are undisclosed.
A public company frequently changes its business plan, while maintaining the same management.
Not all of the above register true with QUTURE. But some of them do. SMART folks will approach QUTURE with extreme caution before they get excited and throw away their money.
That is not to say QUTURE won't materialize. It IS to say that it is doubtful.
Close? To what?
Not likely.
In my opinion, and it is purely only that, if Intersystems was considering a buyout, it would've happened by now. If they are familiar with the software, and we assume they are, they already know about it's capabilities and drawbacks. They've known about it all for quite a long time. Yet, there's been no movement for a buyout or anything else for that matter. They are either not interested or LF doesn't want to sell. My bet is that they are not interested. If they were, we'd all be sitting pretty.
Good questions, Fido!
Good DD! Will you please post the list? In that way, all will not question your DD.
Anyone else have a growing suspicion about LF's integrity?
"leading high tech healthcare analytics and software company". QUTR is hardly leading, at least at this point in time. Wouldn't you say? "Leading" would mean they are well-known, established, and operating. QUTR is none of those beyond the fact there's a website.
We do know LF writes well. We do know LF is well-schooled and in fact knows a great deal about analytics. We do know he has some contacts in the medical field. We also know he had conversations with HFACS and has an alleged contract with them. Still, that hardly makes them a "leading analytics and software company".
Could HFAC's have been talking about some other company? I hope they did mean QUTR, I really do. But until they mention QUTR by name, I will remain skeptical.
Too many burns on the OTC by getting excited before substantial and verifiable information; verifiable with things like a signed contract, a solid business plan, timely filings, etc. I'm letting my shares float but not adding more.
It'd be nice if the HFAC website would have some mention of QUTR. But there isn't any mention of QUTR on the website. There are no QUTR articles, no mention of them partnering, no mention of QUTR software, no mention of LF. Bummer.
It all sounds very good. I agree there is potential here. It's been a long time waiting for it to materialize. I have an interest in this and many shares that I'd like to convert to a sizable amount of cash. I am frustrated that all we get is a few notes from Landen, but never see any purchases of his product. He can write about it all he wants, and that's exactly what he does. So far, that hasn't translated into sales. I wonder why that is. Your guess is as good as mine.
What was that you were tasting and feeling? Never mind, I think I know...lol
Your question does not make a whole lot of sense although I do get your sarcasm. How about you answering the questions I have posed? They're not that difficult.
Good point, except this has been a startup for over 6 years....
I know the tactic you speak of, but you've got me all wrong. And I don't talk "crap' about the stock. I'm not a basher. But I will say that I do like to call out bullshit. The hype on this stock is simply that, and just as quickly as gains are made, they are lost just as quickly because the hype is meaningless.
And you are right about the number of shares I own. Small potatoes at the price I got them. However, if something wonderful does materialize, I'll do well enough. That is not to say I think anything of substance is happening now or even in the near future. in two years, if all goes well, we shall see SUSTAINABLE movement in this, but not until then. I will also go as far as to say that if we don't see news of SUBSTANCE in the next year, folks ought to say bye-bye to this.
Now, that's not "crap" I'm talking. And if you look at the history of my posts here, you'll see I've called it right every step of the way.
By the way, my interest in this is mostly because I have a few friends that are docs. One is the hospital administrator of the University of Vermont Medical Center. I've spoken to him about QUTURE. Interesting that a hospital administrator knows NOTHING about this company. I assume possibly that it's too early for this to be well known.
I do like asking questions to make people think twice before they throw away hard earned money.
Here's a question for you and it's a good one: If this is such a hot commodity, why hasn't it been written about in the International Journal of Medicine and Medical Sciences? What about the American Journal of Medicine and Medical Sciences? Nope, not there either! Never been any mention of this company in ANY journal worth mentioning. You'd think that if there was fact to this company, there'd have been a decent article or two in a least one of those two journals.
See, it's questions like the one I posed to you that I believe are worth asking. Just about 100% of doc's in this country read one or both of those journals. If LF really had something to sell, wouldn't he have gotten an article in an IMPORTANT journal that hospitals and doc's read?
By the way, the doc's I know at Penn State Hershey Medical Center have never heard of QUTURE either. That certainly gives me cause to pause before I invest more.
It's true, but doesn't matter if you believe me.
I agree with you regarding your comments about the "CIO selection". I also agree about potential for this company. I do not agree that I post negative comments. I do agree my comments are about obtaining facts before getting overly excited; too many are ready to jump based upon sketchy information. They fail to do more research to verify what they see in print. Just because it's in print does not mean it's factual.
Folks get excited and this board comes to life when in fact, most of what has occurred has occurred ONLY in print. There's been relatively little follow-through to anything that has been printed.
I've dug around regarding HFACs. I've dug around regarding LF's postings on his website. Although there's much that LF wants to accomplish, and that his articles are scholarly and provide reason for excitement, the follow-through has been incrementally small and very little has been accomplished for the BIG PICTURE. Presently, he's simply enticing folks to keep investing with occasional blurbs that do not materialize OR that are a very long way off from materializing at best. At worst, he's stringing folks along with vague postings just so he can draw in more cash. HFAC is not all it's cracked up to be and folks should beware. And CIO review has less than a 50% rating for accuracy in reporting and ANYONE can contribute an article that CIO Review will publish for a fee even if the article is nothing but B.S. Additionally, I can pay CIO Review a fee and they will promote me in the TOP 10, 20 or 50 list even if I (my company) has no substance. Typically, the fee is about $3000.
I'm AM trying to help folks be skeptical so they don't burn their cash needlessly. It's their cash to burn and some may not listen to what I'm saying or like what I'm saying. I cannot control how they feel or how they may burn through their hard-earned cash.
I have over 800000 shares here. I have a vested interest in this doing better. But occasional blurbs DO NOT get me excited. I take those blurbs, research them as thoroughly as I can, and decide if I should invest more cash. Based upon my fairly extensive research, I am not likely to through more cash at this for a very long time. I'm not being negative. Just honest.
CIO Review is small fry company and not journalistic. They have very little influence, almost no followers in the industry, almost no citations in other works, and most of their articles are just edits of press releases from tech companies. A particularly shady practice is how they get a lot of their funding; they are constantly seeking out companies to be part of a "Top [Number] in [Vertical]" list and all they ask is for a "donation" of $2,000-$3,000...
In other words, I can pay them to be listed in a top list. I venture to say that's what LF did. He paid them to list him, pure and simple. And it worked! Folks invested on this report, albeit a false, paid for report imo.
Of course I did my research. How do you think I know that the guy who touted this as one of the 50 best is from India, and that he's an information technology guy but has 0 knowledge of the medical field?
You will se that this will pump for a while and then drop like a lead weight, same as it always does. But pump away as you always do.