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Balancing the books.........Does the math work.?
It is jmho,but when people post here ,they are giving their opinions,they may try to quote some Austin real estate news paper for authenticity but in reality they are trying to reinforce their point of view,
Some people feel,every thing is fine with the QTMM,and that it will start production in near future,they talk of a state of the Art, Park,of vetting,of samples that have been sent ,of people that will be coming.
Some time in future,,,,,,,,,,,,,If and when it happens.
In the mean time value of the company is being eroded,shares outstanding moved from 70 million to 400 million.People are being paid highly without producing anything.?
Have some people started having second thoughts about this investment,any doubts showing up,if not why.?
WHAT PEODUCTS WILL WE HAVE AND WHEN.6 months 1 year or medical 7 years.
Looking at 10 Q's,and the continued silence of SS would it be a fair assesment ,to say that he has received more than what he has given back to the qtmm.
He made some noise about solar business,making a new subdivision,but no start up.The investor are lucky that some thing might come of from unintended part of those qmc's.
But SS being SS lost no time in signing new contracts and giving himself signing bonuses.Why could 'nt he wait to do this till new business as touted could start.
He gove away 3 million shares for PR,how does it benefit qtmm.Once started he might have to do it again.?
Peole writting good thing about the company have done a wonderful thing to keep up the share value,indeed if they were not to do it,share value,might go down.Collectively they have done more work than the whole managament team.Why does't SS give those 5 million shares to those well wishers for 3.5 cents as he did when he got shares for 2.5Cents and gave them to others for 5 cents.
Bloomberg resume'shows that SS got a job at a reputed company but in mid 80,either he left the job or fired,reasons may be important when one is doing DD for such an important person as a CEO of a company.He did not apply for a job or could not get one,but he started a company which later taken on by others.
Bloomberg further shows that he got interested in qtmm in 1998.Resume'further says he has extensive knowledge and experience in starting new businesses.;education not shown.
His background,knowledge of qtmm since 1998.what is to show???????The last 10Q says........................no sales....in 5years....
Any thing that happens with regard to this company ,good or bad....Can it be said is due to him(SS)....it is his...doing..
How many people have said or raised a question...What is going on?Obviously these people are not working in accordance with the wishes of SS.Could it be an accurate inference.?
And than there are those that see no wrong and always find some thing good to say about the company.Can it be said they act according to the wishes of SS.
Lineman,
Count your blessings and enjoy them.You are free to say anything without any fear of going 'off topic'.And you can post as many time as you like.
4th of July reminds us of sacrifices,because people stood for their rights,is that correct.?
And they put it in the constituition......freedom to speak up their mind,without sanctions.?
Than you speak of humility,be humble;and eliminate opposing views which ever way.?
Trevor,previous post;
1.Steve did not give any guaranttees.
2. Look at the positive statements that have come out,LATELY.
Than another guy says Steve had a 5 year plan.Meaning may be,every thing is under control.He is in full control,every thing happening according to his mechanizations.
So do we want to see,what has been achieved,or positive statement are enough and to avoid cross eyed condition we should look at the carrot which is hanging just 3.6 ....months away.
First five year plan by ss is almost over,what has happened during this time:
1.The patent was defective,needing almost two year,and further expense,to set it right.
2.The product never came to the market.The idea appears to have been shelved.
At what point in time SS learned that the idea of QTMM ,as originally seen,was a complete failure.
WHAT WAS THE NEED OF HIRING A FULL COMLIMENT OF highly paid 'chiefs'if no work was to be done.Since they had no work to do without a good patent.
How much to pay them,without them doing any thing.?Have they earned this pay.?Share holders don't mind having a person looking after a company,as a caretaker if no work is being done.
Was this company created with the sole idea of creating a source of income for some people for as long as it worked.Pennyland style.?
Positive and unwavering words for a penny stock.?(2)
Do reasonable people consider spending money on these stocks an investment.?
who and why should some one even think of putting money,may the answer, be, that we are all here and we all have our own reasons.
So would it be proper to say,it may not be proper to call it investment but we would like to take a chance,because some of the new companies have to succeed.so we do our dd pick a few with likelyhood of success.
In the real world there are sheep and there are shephard.And it works because both of them do there jobs,properly.In penny land,there are people who suffice to say,just take advantage of others.
Some have more risk tolerance than others.If some body is here,it says some thing about him/her.They have taken a risk.?
Do they have to be ripped off,are they throwing there money away.
Do they have to suck up to people who may be ready to rip them off.?
...postive and unwavering words.?????...(1)
Don't they need to be based on data,that an average joe may say,
YES,I can live with that.Let us see if the following,represent a believable description of QTMM.
SS,started the ball rolling,bought shell,patent,and went public,offering shares for sale.....which can we say,he is kind of declaring that it is his belief that he has done all the due dilligence that project is doable and he will start production in good faith.
Can good faith be interpretted as soon as any legitimate business can be started.
On june 22nd,2013,when a new summer starts can we say that qtmm,
has a product to sell?,has a production facilty.?
How many year,since inception.?Is it 13 million in the drain,if bonuses are given for good performance.???
Can questions be asked about such hopeless situation.??????
Summing up:(1)
Dr. Wong completed his reaearch, he and his coworkers at the University,thought it can give rise to viable business,so they filed for patenting his methods and techniques etc,he may have gotten his patent sometime in 2007 depending on how much time this process took he might have completed his research sometime in 2004,2005 or 2006.
Steve was looking for something worth while to do in his life,he liked this idea,maybe, so he bought a shell,bought this patent,lo and behold......a new entity is born.
This thing started in 2008,with the objective;
Solar energy production,Soltrra born.Would it be fair to say,project solterra has been abandoned or placed in limbo,or just no info is forthcoming.?
This was bought and paid for,can it be said, if, so much time effort and money was spent on it,maybe , some one, made a mistake along the way.
Quereka,
When I was deciding to buy this stock I thought about the idea,the solar angle.And than about the man.After all I was buying into a penny stock.Rightly or wrongly I feel that success of a pennystock,depends on the quality of the man.
He had a good background,experience and qualification.Falling out with previous management could have been due to hormones and too much ego,or fair ammount of confidence and self assuredness.Only time will answer this question.
I knew when I buy this stock,there will be no going back whether I want it or not I won't be able to change the Leadership.?
So why bitch about it.?Will get into it later,so I hope I anwered a part of your question.
would it be reasonable to say,
That there are ups and downs in business .
Some businesses take up others don't.
Sports though apparantly different kind of beast have started looking like businesses,but some managers or coaches don't last and are soon out of business,people are too quick to take action.
Which brings the question,what is the reasonable amount of time,a fair amount of time,when questions should be asked,Have we reached that stage yet.
Blame game can be harmful,artificial propping up cannot last.
What to do.?
TedJ,
With ZERO income.
How many samples have been sent 10,20,50, 100.?
How many phone calls were made,or e mails sent to get that response for samples.
NORMALS BUSINESSES depend on bottom line or profits for apprecation of share value.
To try to keep up share value by simple promotions,who benefits by that?
Why not have one person take care of business and hire people as needed.Than we don't need to sell as many shares to pay exorbitant
salaries.But than they have already protected themselves for such eventuality.Looks like there is too much work and present management cannot handle the extra work.
Q10,says 3 million shares were sold @.04 to pay for PR work.
It was said qtmm is in stealth mode?
It was said qtmm had to work on its patent.?
One of the reasons for not taking off was that the technology is too far ahead ofthe times,industries have to learn how to use our product.
And that is the reason why we need to provide free samples.
It will take the time it will take.?No problem there.
Why waste company's resources,on useless promotions.We laid low for three years,wait one more year.
Money was to be spent on pr from January to June this year,who has been paid that money. has any of it been paid to people on this board.
You don't have to worry about any thing here you can stick your neck as much as you want.Infact it may be stuck out alot already.
Ever since its inception the only problem Steve had was,
.......how to keep up the interest in qtmm......
2008 it is January how to reach Dec,31,2008.
2009 " " " " " " " " ".
Than Art took over the reins helped Steve to ......pass
2010
2011
Than he was rewarded
Than the dream team took over,Problem is the same old one ...
NO PRODUCT.How to keep up the interest.
So new goal
How to reach Dec,31 2013.
Because some people are still making money without any product.
Free,
What are you saying in this post. Is it:
1. If they join you in promoting this stock,you will be able to increase the share price of this stock,irrespective of or whether the company has a product or not.
2. that money has been made by these manipulations and can be made.Obviosly this money will be made by participants,not neccessarily trusting simple share holders.
Than you are saying that they are keeping the share price of this stock low bacause they want to irritate you.
Sir,could it be that people can see this utopia at this board, is just that.
Rational people you mention,may feel enough is enough.
Some thing created by some clever people on paper without physical existance,like a mirage.
Connecting dots?
Is there any thing real any where may be the ,
'geniuses'can bring in the pictures of the functional lab for some credibility??????
This ia brilliant,fascinating,stimulating,thought proking,as you say quantum dots may not be the gold mine.......
But have a five year plan
Bright kid or idea
makes us lots of money.
Thanks for this ad,today's market price was .0615 but with this bulk sale,looks like it may not be available thro broker.
Is there a special price for this sale.how many shares would one be able to purchase for 20K,and what would that purchase price be. and would there be a commission or brokerage cost.Thanks
Those are beautiful sentiments,Chezeroo,I hope you wont be a stanger any more.
We need to be more tolerant of others point of view.
Live and let live.
And really when some here pretend to know more and are constantly putting others down,it really hurts QTMM.Than the other guy has to defend himself and he has to bring out facts which better be left alone,there are too many things that are wrong.
I have acknowledged that mods have done a good job in assisting in keeping up morale and share value by their PR,but ultimately a time will come when QTMM has to show some results.
Just to be a 'MANLY'guy or pretendin to be a great DD expert won't work for long.
Any body can 'googl'and get the info,but you need an unbiased mind to interpret the resuts.When people start giving their own, slant or spin,every body can see it......The saying...
You can fool some of the peopl most of the time,most of the people for some time and not all the people all the time.
R&D facility ?
Research and Development ??? By whome and how??
Do they have an office ?
What is the location out of which the officers and the 'topbrass' operate are they all in the same town,how and how often do they come face to face?
Is there any record of funds that have been allocated for carrying out these activities,do they have any idea what kind of personnel they are going to hire?
Or is it the R&D mill at ihub qtmm ?
TEDJ continuing further in response to your#17449.
Qtmm further draws its strength,as per quarterly 10q/A from work of DR.J which was to be done at Arizona State University which was to cost $835000/-175000/-accrued expense was $630000/-still owe$455000/-
Dr. J went to SA dont know what has been done about scaling up and optimization but this money is owed.
Next agreement is with Arizona university about Screen Printing Techniques for fabrication of oleds and printing of organic component minimum royalities need to be paid.
A2F that can enable qtmm to scale of production they must have spent lot of money to develope microreactor processes,can not ascertain if they have been paid any thing?
So you see TEDJ,
According to this Agreement,which may be the most important agreement;
QTMM owes;
august 1 2012....$129412.00
August1 2013......$473259.0
TOTAL.............602662.00
May be they will negotiate some thing,but it is a situation as of last quarterly.
If you will take trouble on your own look up where does qtmm stand with respect to other entities .quarterlies is not like other pr's where they may say any thing at ihub R&D,which is more like rumors and disinformation.
Thank you TEDJ, let's do that,As you guys have a lot more understanding of things than me.You know every thing that qtmm can do depends on the Licences it has signed with;
Rice university
asu
arizona universty
A2f with Netherland co.
and may be DRs. wong and Jabour.
QTMM has no capability of doing any research on its own at all.Only thing it has is its contractual arrangement with those entities.
What ever claims or things that our mods say will happen,may happen only;
If QTMM is in a position to arrange financing,
how much money can it raise by sellin shares?
Let us go to page 10 quarterly amended 10Q-A read paragraph 1,2 and 3 last two lines paragraph 3,It says company has not paid minimum required payment and have not met the bench marks so far.This is for Rice univ only,try to work out how much money they will need for this one.Have to go will get back later.
That one word says it all.
Potental?Potentail for what?
Pot at the end of a rainbow and we hope to glimpse that guy who can bring joy and fun,but,the Leprechaun is a pretty illusive person only a few lucky ones get to see him.
Most here believe that we are on the trail of that guy in green, so they say our QTMM will:
Ship shrink wrapped cases etc etc
TQD's QMC"s littles BALLS that will give Macho results
Normally companies allocate 1-2 % of profits to R&D but QTMM has shifted HQ from Oklahoma to AUSTIN out of share holders equity(Mr. Macho i box).Was't SS based in Autin before he moved to okla
WE would all love to see that happening....But we are
IN PENNYLAND......
Where at the end of rainbow more oftne than not
Almost more than 99% of the time they see that guy with horns with a crooked smile and GOTCHA ????
So when the supporters say the company will...May ..is thinking of plans to..signed mou which does not happen....None of these thing carry any weight any more.GLTA.
Thank you ,people for you kind response,so I gather qdot's will do the trick.Since Solterra seems out,electronic use uncertain that leaves medical uses as in nanobio,cancer cells and targeting particular cells in the body for in vivo applications.
And our qdots will act as carriers for therapeutic and other agents,would that be a correct understanding? for the applications.
Mr.Crunch,
I really appreciate the work and hours you and other mods have put in,in developing this site,when you say thousands of hours I can accept that too.Such dedicated DD and without expectations of reward.
I really believe that the share price qtmm enjoys is mainly due to the good work done by you guys,Otherwise our investmrnt in the company would have been down the drain by now.At a price of around .002 and the amount of share company had to sell we could easily have reached o/s of 2-3 billion and that would have been the end.
But there a always a day of reconning,like a quarterly report where they have to show what they have ?What do they have?Can you in all fairness answer that without any rhetoric?Name the product?
Is that too much to ask?thanking you.GLTA>
Dockzef,
Some people feel too strongly about the company and its products and others don't see any tangible results.It is almost 6 years and 13 millions gone?
At one time the mods said,because of disruptive technology we are in stealth mode?
And than in 2012 'powers that be' gave an impression that they had to lie low because the 'Patent'was weak.
We have a marketing Director,since there is no record of sales I am trying to find ,WHAT are we selling?Do we have a product? I have asked these direct questions to CRUNCH and SE but no answers,
So I ask you or anybody else?
Is it a flexible sheet?
Is it a Solar panel?
Is it a powder?
Thank you,Solar Express for you kind response,may be you can tell me.Real QTMM started in 2007-2008,it is six years it has spent thirteen million dollars of share holders money:
Do we have a product,
Is it a flexible sheet?
Or is it a panei?
Or is it a powder?
Who will use it?
What will he do with it?
I see a sale pf $5343/- by the company,Did anything else bring in any income for the company?
Thanks for sharing that info with rank and file.Let me thank you for doing such a wonderful job for the ihub QTMM,starting in 2009 when you brought in that concept of disruptive technology,stealth mode,dreams of things to come and your team of diehards and strong arms.
What ever means but it worked ,you brought the real QTMM where it is today.High degree of confidence that you built along with the morale you kept up,helped to keep the share price where it is today. Every one is so keyed up that they wont sell their shares they may sink with the ship but they will keep whatever they have. Had it gone to its reaistic sub penney value management selling shares to pay bills o/s would have gone to billions and we dead in water.
People in management have sometimes to make tough decisions,if the technology is too far ahead of times it may be better to lay low rather thantrying to blast ahead.
Mr. Crunch,
looks like there are two,QTMM companies.
One run by ss,as ceo,and the other one under the aegis of our mods.
I was looking at 10-q/a of the real QTMM.looking at financial it shows $12,822,476 dollars of share holders money has been spent.That is almost thirteen million dollars gone.
What do we have to show for it.
A piece of paper?
May 31 2012 was to start production on Solar...probably shelved.
Netherland people spent so much money to develope printing...may be gone with solterra.
Dr.J was to work on optimization at Arizona,when he moved to Saudi Arabia certain sums were to be paid to Arizona,in limbo.
As to the other QTMM it looks like it will bo going to atleast $30/- per share with a dividend of at least $2/-.
All thanks to the good work of mods.
I know the mods and what their dedcation is,and have done all the dd I need,
simple question what market are you referring to.
Is there a buyer,or a potential buyer?
What would he be doing with these dots?
Any opposing view is banter to you,may be they are wrong.But you are talking of selling QD's and their market.
Can you in good faith say what market.that is.
Is there a demand for the product? and where?
2007
2008
2009
2010
2011
2012
2013
is there a product to sell?
Too much spin,no room for sanity,or caution.
Congratulations to the board for complete annihilation of people,who ask reasonable questions.
Tarkless.
A real gem,is'nt it what they call hitting the nail right in the middle of head.
And Jazz that may be the reason trustunits persistent comments about
lken staying at bottom in pps.We have been tolerant to everyone so what is the harm if some people take a little more time to get rid of their frustrations,especially when there are some justifications.
Once and if lken takes off no body will remember these and the perceived negative comments won't drag the pps down.
Uneasiness in the minds of people about unpalatable things done in THE PAST AND STILL GOING ON.
This Founders thing was Created by Dwayne and Lenny still doing his thing as tarkless points out.
That unfortunate R/S applies to every one but not to Lenny.
Thanks Kuwa and we wait....
Thanks to Investorshub who provide us this platform where we can come to see what is happening or not happening about our investments or gambles.And share feelings with others.
Jazz do you see any signs of production start up and or promotional activities?
May be it is too early to say anything?
Frustration is all we had so far,now just for the sake of Founders who have breathed in some life to LKEN,Duane who has given his utmost,and just may be our CEO has learned on the job,he too has lot more to gain if this thing can get some traction.
With fingers crossed let us have some hope.
VC you have been quite forthright in your observations and also malekabal,MR.Shido and some others,reddyfool and rsr have been quiet for a while.
We all have shared our disappointments in the past.Lken would have been dead by now but for the gallant actions of the Founders who put up their hard earned money,and raised a lot of funds which Lken could not have raised from any other source.
Duane has stuck around he needs funds to live while he is slaving for every body else,why bedrudge him his little pittance.
They have been talking about big plans starting in January,so why not hold back a little more and see.
Thanks to all the Founders ,welcome back jazz,hope new year brings a little hope and lots of action.
Good work kenolova and snizzle,you guys are doing good PR but hope our CEO starts giving out some realistic info about any progress being made.GLTA.
reading slides used to be my work and teaching graduate student.Now I see this slide purported to be an electron microscopic representation of a RECENT origin.This is the CORE of all the talk.Can we say every thing revolves around it.This is the basic molecule.THE QUANTUM DOT.When they designed this DOT Dr.Wong and DR. Jabbour must have put a lot of thought and studied how the flow of electrons can be facilitated.When you study a slide you donot go looking for things you expect to see there,You just record what you are seing.
I invite all of you to go to Quantum intro page?
Do you see a single TETRA, four legged, as oakie explained to me,Quantum dot.Was it intended to impress the on lookers?Why.
It is claimed that A2F has developed over 85% consistancy ,Why clumps in the field,are we depicting an agglutination result.
When they print an organized dot,should there be linear arrangement.I know that QTMM has no role in it they have the right dot,but dissemination of info by over jealous parties some times lead towards uninted consequences.JMHO
More investers will jump in when they see sales and profits....
Not because of this board.
And Yes I agree you have done a lot of work for the presentation of info and it is such a fine job that people start feeling,so much stuff so many capabilities and get sucked in.
Where is the company in relation to the impression your beautiful work creates.
Capbilities mentioned.....if it happens ...how long will it take.
There is a whole list of financials there, was any of them delivered on time.
And it was not in response to any of your messages,it was in response to an attack and still I tried to tone down my respone.
Was that a threat?Last one for the day.
Hi Dr. Bob,
When I wrote that open letter to Art,I said Dr.Bob seems to,than I thought about why should he feel like that,he is a reasonable man.Than I remembered that I wrote some thing.
Let me try to explain the facts as I saw them at thattime.Towards the end of 2009,it seemed the company was ready to roll full steam ahead,
there was a award for the best research idea something.
there was going to be a presentation with Lux.
There was going to be a presentation at Saudi Arabia.
There was some kind of assocaition for carbon credits.
Talk of may be a plant set up in Saudi Arabia.
And that paper at L.A.
With all these on the plate,maybe our CEO felt,deficiecy in patent, needs to be taken care before other thing.Every thing was put on hold.Every thing was cancelled,it was a bold move,why waste money when things depend on the outcome of patent.
So you did not go to L.A.and offerd yourself to be the scapegoat.It was a very noble thing to do.
But just look at it from investers point of view,it is just a pennystock,these guys havent done any thing so far etc etc.
Now knowing the facts I whole heartedly apologize if you feel offended.Best of seasons greeting to you and your loved ones.
Art,
I have talked of burying the hatchet,so if we start saying I did this because you did that,things get muddled up and we go no where.
So as an adult I say to you,lets us forget what happened and why it happened,you are an officer of a company we have invested in,SS has every right to work according to his schedule,we have experienced first hand that you are intelligent and can run things independantly.
Dr.Bob too it seems is under the impression that people unfairly said things about him.Only thing I can say is company started in 2008.......there were delays it seems they have been taken care off so why not welcome this auspicious season and a new year with a new understading.
You have better understanding with the rulers on this board may be you can influence them to tone down a little,instead of them showing the company what it can do,let us for a while let the company lead us.
In case you feel inclined what I have suggested has some merit and if the stealth is over,the shareholder have waited a long time without any news and the crumbs from the good Doctors table will be welcome.He has already presented his paper a few lines about it wont be against any SEC rules.