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No rush for me. It is very predictable and tragic in a sad way. Personally prolonging peter's agony is no different than if he goes to jail today, doesn't effect me, but I do not want to see any newbies lose their hard earned money like so many have over the last 10 years.
Dof F- I doubt stormin norman could even help, that would be if he even acknowledged peter, which would NEVER happen.
Wow dragon- where is Michaels doing all this stuff that no other company is doing? maybe in the surrounding po boxes that adjoin his? You really don't believe that story do you? It contradicts everything else. If they are made here, then what's the problem with customs? That's what happens when you lie to much, "you can never remember your own lies". How many people on this board have heard michaels say that? LMFAO
caught-THAT IS A TOTAL LIE, AND YOU KNOW IT. Peter Michaels scammed two different people out of hundreds of thousands of dollars in the last year, that went to SCW. One of those people filed a lawsuit, and that is what really got peter into trouble. THAT IS WHY PETER CANNOT BORROW MONEY OR GET LOANS WITHOUT THE COURTS PERMISSION... GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. If you dare try to contradict me, I will post the court case number, and the WONDERful business he has almost ruined with his lies. Peter's family matters are brought on by peter, from what I hear. Maybe peter should not be spending all of his shareholders money on trying to not pay any child support for his children. Also, the pending criminal case was due to what peter did. That trial is going forward, and will be very expensive to litigate. CAUGHT WITHOUT A BRAIN, ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY ONE EX CAUSED PETER'S CRIMINAL CASE WHEN HE WAS ARRESTED AND POSTED $50,000 LAST MARCH? Is it also the exes fault that peter borrowed money (almost a hundred thousand dollars) from a parent in one of his children's classes, and they have sued to get their money back? Obviously the exes aren't getting any of the money, or the DA wouldn't be involved.
This is all documented, I will update everyone to the date of Peter's 3 hour long cause hearing that he will have to be answering ALL financial questions regarding all his companies at this hearing with the district attorney. Anyone is welcome to come and watch. I heard there is now a new judge, one that does not put up with dead beat dad's who owe over $100,000.00 in child support, but can afford to sue the ex in civil court using Hop-on money for lawyer fees. As well as using the Hop-On lawyer. That game is over, obviously peter lost. I WILL POST THAT CASE TO IF CAUGHT LOOKING LIKE AN IDIOT TRIES TO DENY THIS.
Now everyone is talking about news NEXT WEEK? What happened to this WEEK? IMO, peter needs to stop having caught and others post for him, he is in enough trouble, although there are a couple of co-conspirators that I will enjoy watch go to prison with peter. Keep it up dumb and dumber, your time is running out. tick tock tick tock.
caught- there are a couple of mentally ill people around peter, but I am not one of them. Funny how you say the bashers are ex-employees, ex-girlfriends, ex-wives, people who have lost money in the past. GEEZ YOU MUST BE A ROCKET SCIENTIST. OF COURSE THEY LOST MONEY LISTENING TO PETER'S LIES AND MANIPULATION. IF THEY MADE MONEY THEY WOULD BE HAPPY.
AMAZING HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH PETER, MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE HE LIES TO SHAREHOLDERS AND SPENDS THE MONEY ON HIMSELF. READ THE FEDERAL PROBATION ORDER. IT'S VERY SIMPLE.; PETER SPENDS INVESTOR MONEY ON HIMSELF. AS AN INVESTOR, IF YOU WANT TO FINANCE HIS LIFESTYLE, THAT IS YOUR DECISION. MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN CONNED DID NOT GET A WARNING TO LOOK AT COURT DOCUMENTS AND MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION, THAT'S WHY MANY ARE ANGRY.
Who wants to give their hard earned money to a guy who has admittied to fraud in the past, has a felony for it, and is CURRENTLY dealing with the IRS, FBI, Federal Probation, Department of Child Support , and now the SEC.
IF PETER DOESN'T TAKE CARE OF THE KIDS FROM HIS TWO PREVIOUS EXES, WHY WOULD HE PAY BACK INVESTORS WHEN HE DOESN'T PAY FOR HIS OWN CHILDREN? It's not one, but TWO exes that have not been paid child support. Guess peter runs his personal life like his business: something isn't going right, move on to the next idea, and forget about the obligations, shareholders from the prior deal. Not the kind of integrity I like. The insinuation that the exes are asking for more money is ludicrous, it's my understanding the first wife is owed in excess of $250,000.00 dollars, he better hope she doesn't decide to pursue that money. The second ex is owed over $100,000.00, from the court papers I have seen. Looks like that ex has decided peter is going to be responsible and pay it. I know some people that have talked with her, and she doesn't think she will ever see a penny from peter, but would like to see him in jail for all his crimes. That ex has the contempt case. I guess he tried suing her civilly twice, and peter lost, she seems upset,and tired of dealing with him, I believe she will make sure the conrtempt proceedings go forward. Other people onthis boardhave talked to her, and she says she lost a lot of money to peter that was her money before they met, she was/is an investor, and wishes peter would simply go to jail. I would not want to go to court with an ex who is persistant and wants justice. Her cause is made legitimate by all the other investors across the US that have lost their money. Peter better have all the financials ready for his child support case, I heard that it is scheduled for three hours, and he is ordered to show financials for all companies: Hop-ON, Green Frog, SCW, LB Homes, US cig... This cannot be good for a CEO who lives with his mom and has a PO box as a company address an hour away from where he lives. Does he commute over an hour just to check his mail?
My opinion- will the ecigs be a hit? maybe, probably. Maybe they will be bigger than cell phones are. Peter has only been trying to sell a phone for 10 years.... BUT WHY INVEST IN A POS Company? There are other companies that are legitimate, with OFFICES, that you may make a ton of money off of. Hop-On is not one of them, IMO.
caught- I thought the e-cigs would be available months ago? HAVEN'T YOU NOTICED IT IS ALWAYS NEXT WEEK OR TOMORROW WITH THIS COMPANY? GUESS WHAT? TOMORROW AND NEXT WEEK HAVE COME AND GONE......ACTUALLY 10 YEARS HAVE COME AND GONE, amazing that people still fall for peter's bs. AND YOU KEEP POSTING "NEXT WEEK" EVERY WEEK!
Savy investors? LMFAO The ONLY investors here holding onto shares are those that cannot face that they have been lied to by Peter, and their money is gone! They are hoping for the miracle peter promises them daily. Well guess what?......It's not going to happen!
I don't think people on this board understand peter is also under an SEC INVESTIGATION. PETER NEEDS TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHAT HE POSTS, NOT ONLY IS THE SEC FINALLY TAKING NOTICE, BUT HIS NEW CONDITIONS OF PROBATION ARE LIMITING PETER'S ABILITY TO DO AS HE PLEASES.
AND DON'T FORGET ONE OF REASON'S FOR THE EXTENSION OF PROBATION WAS PETER'S REFUSAL TO PAY CHILD SUPPORT. A LITTLE BIRDY TOLD ME THAT THE AMOUNT IS OVER $100,000.00 THE DEPARTMENT OF CHILD SERVICES IS DEMANDING SUBSTANTIAL FINANCIAL DOCUMENTATION, AND PETER HAS AN UPCOMING CONTEMPT TRIAL.
With all of these issues, it is no wonder peter cannot "bother" to inform shareholders of anything. If he can only post the truth, he definitely isn't going to post that information!!
And CAUGHT- if you attempt to refute any of these claims, I WILL POST ALL THE INFORMATION TO SUPPORT WHAT I AM STATING. If anyone else on this board has questions, I will be glad to answer as to what I know to be true and factual.
welcome back ragtime, I love it when posters let caught know she will be called out on any lie she tries to post. I, like you know too much, and if am called out on it, will post the truth, all of which will not be good news for peter.. cheers!
caught- YOU SURE SEEM TO KNOW MORE THAN ANYONE ABOUT PETER AND HOP-ON,SCW, USCIG, WHATEVER... How do you know that peter gave an invester shares when that invester had a heart attack?? Did peter put out a pr on it? LMAO! DO YOU THINK IT'S FAIR TO THE OTHER SHAREHOLDERS THAT "LORD PETER" DOLES OUT "HIS SHARES" AS HE SEES FIT? ISN'T THIS A PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANY NOT A NON PROFIT (UNLESS YOU ARE A SHAREHODER) BUSINESS?
What happened to the cell phones going to Saudi Arabia? Anyone who has watched hop-on over the last 1,5,or 10 years knows that peter had/has a faithful sectretary. Many shareholders would speak with her to get their shares that peter always promises. It seems she may not be working for him anymore since the recent pr's were full of misspelled words, and simply poorly written. Clearly peter did not obtain a college degree.
caught-seems you are closer than anyone. Many of us know how intimately close peter seems to have been/still is? with at least one of his attorneys. She has risked her bar card, even her freedom to lie to a Federal Judge about accompanying peter to China as an officer of the court to get peter out of his first jail sentence. OBVIOUSLY THE JUDGE AND THE INCOMPETENT US ATTORNEY LARRY SPONG DIDN'T KNOW THEY SHARED A HOTEL ROOM ON THE TRIP, or that she had represented peter when he was thrown in jail in Nevada for not paying a casino money owed prior to the Federal hearing. Many investors talk to GL on the phone frequently, I wonder is she doing it to calm them down so she won't go to jail, or is she still in business with peter? I imagine the relationship must be hard on peter's wife, as everyone who has worked at hop-on knows of gl"s constant calling and dependency on peter. I hear the joke of the office was who would have to babysit her when peter had other "committments"
DO YOU REALLY THINK THE FBI IS GOING TO LET THESE TWO GET AWAY WITH THAT? How many "peter's" are out there right now scamming people? TONS. Yet look at how much effort and resources went into getting his probation extended for just one more year... Many US Attorneys, peter's probation officer, his supervisor, and her supervisor were involved. Even an idiot can see that with all the budget cuts, why would so many people and resources be used on ole petey boy to simply keep him on probation? Revocation could have easily been attained, but that would negate the last five years of charges that will be brought against petey and others, IMO. When they arrest and charge peter over this, he won't be going home anytime soon....IMO
thanks socal,
I wish someone had warned me about the CEO, if you took a trip to his office, you really should take a trip to the Federal courthouse. What you read there will really knock you off your chair. And btw, that does not include all the problems peter has in family court, which will effect the company. Passport was restricted for failure to pay child support, which you can read in the Federal Docs. If peter doesn't take care of his own children, do you really think he cares about you?
I believe ole peter has a few court appearances coming up soon. Since I don't think he is going to be hiding out in his PO box, some of you may want to find him there. I can provide those dates to anyone interested. In fact the info on one should be on the occourt website under criminal, just punch in case #09HM03796 M A. SOCAL, since you seem to be close, you could stop by Harbor Courthouse off of Jamboree and pull the information on this case. Simply go to the criminal records window, and give them the case number, the docket is 5 pages long since petey boy has been able to prolong this trial. It is well worth the $2.50 it will cost you. I assure you ole pete had to pay many pretty pennies on the defense on this one already.
It is not bashing someone by printing the truth, it is called informing other people who may not be aware of certain facts that could effect their decision to buy the stock. While you are in the area, there is a nice bakery shop called Wonderland Bakery, please stop by and support the single mom and her daughter that work six days a week to make cupcakes. after meeting peter, they could use the support, I guess you can figure out what happened to them.
ACTUALLY THERE IS SOMETHING WORSE. PETER TOLD THE FEDERAL JUDGE ON JANUARY 8TH ,2010 THAT HE WAS DESTITUTE- AND GET THIS------LIVING WITH HIS MOTHER FAR AWAY FROM NEWPORT BEACH. That is so great, he should feel lucky he is at mommie's house, the next stop will be prison. Yep, the iceburg has taken out the bottom "shell" of all of peter's companies I do believe! tick tock, tick tock....
Poor peter can't even stay at his office, since it's a little P.O. box. The only things small enough of peter's to fit in the box would be his integrity and conscience. IMO FINALLY PETER LOOKS TO BE GETTING EXACTLY WHAT HE DESERVES. SORRY TO THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE LOST MONEY, WE TRIED TO TELL YOU.
NO MATHIAS, I DON'T THINK CAUGHT REALIZES THIS. The reason she doesn't is because the only one usually selling is peter, the buyers are usually whoever he can target, whether in his neighborhood- which changes constantly because of constant evictions, out and about, even parent's at his child's school are not safe. The guy has no shame. IMO
caught, I don't think I need to elaborate on the FBI subpeonas, but you can ask Peter, he was ordered to produce records. I wonder how the SEC investigation into Hop-On is going? Without peter's faithful secretary, who will possibly figure out what to do over there? Maybe Peter and danny can take the yellow brick road and try to get some brains.
As for the Federal order, IT'S POSTED ON PACER. PAY 7OR 8 CENTS A PAGE AND YOU TOO CAN READ ALL ABOUT IT. Since you are so knowledgeable about this company, why don't you ask peter what his new conditions are.
Please don't mistake peter's extension of probation for not getting jail time. He still has two seperate criminal matters pending in the next two months that could send him to the STATE slammer. Then he would be in violation of his Federal probation and have to do that time too.
BTW, it's my understanding that a REVOCATION of probation would have exonerated all of peter's criminal activities over the past 4 years, thus making it impossible for the FBI or any other agency to prosecute on these charges. Quite frankly, if peter's old female attorney had been there, she probably would have caught that and asked the judge to make the prosecution refile their papers with the correct wording. Since she was able to close a courtroom and get a judge to take away peter's 8 months prison sentence with a fake story of peter working for the CIA last time, she definitely would have caught this error. In my opinion, revocation would have only given peter the original three years jail time he was sentenced to, peter should have took that deal. Maybe his highpowered attorney isn't as bright as everyone thinks, or he doesn't care since he stated he is owed quite a bit of money from Peter, to which the Judge stated, "I bet you are!"
Now, peter will violate probation on one of the pending state matters, have to do state prison time, then get the three year Federal jail sentence on top of it. AND THE BEST PART: THE GOVERNMENT WILL BRING ADDITIONAL CHARGES AGAINST HIM AND HIS CO-CONSPIRATORS! Much better deal for those of us who wish to see peter in jail for a very long time. IMO, the outcome was perfect, you couldn't possibly think all the paperwork that was done by probation and various District Attorneys was only to get an extra year for probation, think about it. Too many people working too hard just for an extra year. Remember: the wheels of justice move slowly, but once you make the government work extra hard by filing numerous motions as peter did, they aren't going to settle for just a mere extra year of probation.
ANYONE DOING DD ON THIS COMPANY REALLY SHOULD GO DOWN TO THE FEDERAL COURT BUILDING IN SANTA ANA, AND READ THE CASE. THE CASE # IS SACR08-157-JVS. You can even get copies made, the clerks are quite helpful there. If you don't live close, you can get a Pacer account and look at the documents for next to nothing. IMO, if I'm the old attorney, I would be worried about what is to come, and I would have wanted that revocation.
ANY SHAREHOLDER MONEY BROUGHT INTO HOP-ON USACIG, SCW, ETC... WILL NEED TO BE USED TO PAY ATTORNEY FEES FOR PETER'S URGENT NEED TO STAY OUT OF PRISON, THEN HE MAY BE ABLE TO BUY SOME "PRODUCTS" WITH WHATEVER IS LEFT OVER. SAME OLD STORY, JUST A DIFFERENT PRODUCT AND COMPANY NAME, IMO
Oh, then maybe you are GL? The last post was too grammatically correct to be PM, and not enough caps to be CM, so leaves few left to chose from. It's occourt.com. For being so smart, you clearly refuse to look up something so easily accessible to you. Maybe because you won't like what you find? Or is it you already know and chose to play dumb?
Here's a little nugget for you- per Peter Michaels' new terms of probation, which were extended another year because of his behavior, executed on January 8, 2010
1. THE DEFENDANT(PM), INDIVIDUALLY OR ON BEHALF OF ANY BUSINESS ENTITY, SHALL NOT APPLY FOR ANY LOAN,BORROW ANY MONEY FROM ANY INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY AND/OR OPEN ANY LINE OF CREDIT WITHOUT THE PRIOR WRITTEN APPROVAL OF THE PROBATION OFFICER.
That's just one of PM's new conditions, I say the share holders should vote peter's probation officer, Mr. Ginsberg, as CEO of Hop-On, SCW, USCig, Greenfrog, etc....since Peter cannot even enter into ANY deal on his own if it requires getting or giving money. I think that makes him unable to do business, unless the Chinese are giving away free stuff. LMFAO
Do your DD, and you will see the truth. If you can get in and get out like the day traders, good for you. But those of you who have peter in your ear making promises and telling you not to sell may end up losing all your money, imo. Many on here know how peter will lie and convince you to hold onto your shares by promising that there is a major deal coming "very soon", "the timing is just a little off", "I'm having problems with my crazy ex", "my wife, mother, kid is gravely ill".... If you have heard any of these lines, you are not alone. I hope you all make money, but if you can get out with a small loss I would count my blessings..... Don't forget FBI subpoenas for Hop-ON were issued, the investigation is still ongoing...
caught-PM/GK/DC- whoever is posting today, It has been posted by many others, and if you are one of the three I named you know it, because you participate in it.
caught- look on the occourt website and you will find the case where PM gave stock and personally took money- there are at least 6 people I know he has done it to, and that is the tip of the iceberg. Peter is the titanic- just about to hit the tip, then we all know what happens next.....
Pizzabusted and disgusted- HOW CAN HOP-ON BE UNDERVALUED WHEN IT HAS NO CAPITAL, NO PRODUCT, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF DEBT, AND A CEO THAT IS A CONVICTED FELON FOR MONEY LAUNDERING RELATING TO STOCK FRAUD? Oh, I forgot, Hop-On also has no office space, and the CEO claims he can't pay for his children because he is destitute. This claim was made in FEDERAL COURT to the FEDERAL JUDGE.
Even a Domino's pizza delivery guy could figure out this was a bad investment.... The facts are the facts: PM will not be getting off probation because he took money from an investor, did not pay it back, and that investor sued him. PM of course did not disclose this to probation. This is just one of the issues that gave Michaels another year of probation. It is all public record. Some of the other issues PM has upcoming will not go away for him, and he is looking at a contempt of court. Which I believe is a violation of probation. I wonder what it feels like to wonder if today will be the day you go to jail for a very long time?
ALSO, ANY OF YOU WHO MAY BE THINKING OF BUYING STOCK DIRECTLY FROM PM, THE FEDERAL JUDGE ORDERED PM NOT TO DO ANY CASH DEALS WITH ANYONE UNLESS IT IS OK'D BY PROBATION FIRST. THIS IS PART OF MICHAELS EVEN MORE RESTRICTED PROBATION. I CAN POST THE ORDER TOMORROW FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DOUBT.
I don't want to be harassed on this board, if you can argue my FACTS like a normal human being, then I will engage you. If you are just going to make assumptions as to which person I might be ( and there are so many who hate Peter) don't bother. I am giving facts, if you have facts to show I am lying put them up, otherwise let the newbies see the truth and then decide if they want to invest in PM.
I wish someone had told me and the others on this board what was really going on when we invested our money. If one person keeps their house, or doesn't have their live ruined because of these warnings, then it is worth it to us who post the truth on this board.
For pizzabusted and disgusted, you may not care what the Owner/president/CEO/fundraiser of the company does, but some investors may want to know if there are ongoing legal issues. For them I will post some docs that anyone could obtain by going online. After reading the docs, if you feel you want to put your money here, that is your choice.
IMO, I don't know where the CEO gets the time to run any business with so much court activity. How is he paying for these attorneys. Please bear in mind I am only posting a small fraction of what I have, all of it relevant to USAcig, AND THE PROCEEDINGS MOSTLY OCCURED IN THE LAST 45 DAYS.
BTW-my personal favorite is document 14. After reading all the documents, if you still think this company has a chance.....good luck. Just don't say you weren't warned, i wish someone had given many of us on this board this info before we lost our money.
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And I am not saying the e-cig isn't going to make money, I'm saying I doubt this company trying to jump on the bandwagon will make you any money.
As most know here A LOT of money went to pay PM's personal attorneys. I wonder why attorney costs are not disclosed? That would be a question that PM's probation officer, Terry Ginsburg should be able to answer. Also, pizza busted and disgusted, you might want to look at the lawsuits, Dan Gannon holds a 3.5 million dollar judgment against Hop-On and PM, don't think for a minute he is not waiting to collect. That case and judgment are public record, and should have been disclosed in the financial statements.
If you choose to invest your money with PM, beware, containers he has shipped from China before have been seized, FBI subpoenas were issued a few months ago regarding this company, and key people were ordered to produce documents. Wonder when that shoe will drop?
Where is PM's actual office? I understand he is using a PO box. Very professional! LMAO
Peter in China getting supplies- wonder who gave him the money for that. Oh, and Pizzabuster, in case you are not aware, PM had some containers confiscated from customs before..... Hope that doesn't happen again. I am sure the Turkey contact will not be helping with these shipments...There is so much you pumpers do not know. My favorites lines are:
1. Next week it's to da moon!
2. Everyone who makes a factual negative statement must have a personal grudge they can't get over
3. Next week when the PR's come out......how many years are people going to buy that?
IF, and that's a big IF- PM actually ships a container from China, he better ship only what he declares, or risk losing more containers to customs.... and yes I have proof of this. You would be amazed to know the lengths PM will go to work the con.
I have the unsealed document from the original indictment. what is more interesting is what is going on now! Michaels has several cases pending both of which could violate his probation. Look for those cases in the upcoming months. Anyone in southern california is encouraged to attend. I will post dates,times, and places. Court documents don't lie. Federal Judges, probation officers, the FBI didn't just randomly get together and say let's pick on PM. Where there is smoke there is fire....just watch.....
mathias, EVERYTHING you have posted is true. Most of the old timers on this board know it, but PM always seems to get friends to post for him. And yes this can be proven. I have a pacer account. I will send you any document you want. And for all you people that are stupidly giving money to PM, why don't you go to the Santa Ana Federal Court and look up Peter D. Michaels case number SACR 08-157-JVS. IT'S FREE! If I were giving my money to a convicted felon, I would at least want to know why the Federal Judge EXTENDED Michaels' probation for an extra year. I"m sure it wasn't because he is an honest upstanding citizen....
And don't forget, when on probation, like Michaels, not paying child support is a contempt charge that can revoke probation and send Michaels to prison for the original three years he should have originally served.
All you "investors" keep giving PM money for stocks, I'm sure his ex will be happy when he finally pays her so he doesn't have to go to jail.