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On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Sergey Gurin ?<svgurin@helpfultechnologies.com>? wrote:
Good morning.
Yes, I am the person who posted that information on iHUB yesterday, though.
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Respectfully,
$ergey Gurin
Helpful Technologies Inc.
President & CEO
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My apologies to creepinA. I finally received a response from $ergey Gurin and he confirmed that they were his posts.
Come on people, you can't be that gullible. Gurin's first post told me it was creepinA using the Gurin alias. All in caps which is what creepin does as well as the same words misspelled. What are the odds of the "real" Gurin using the same poor grammar as creepin and same words misspelled.
Gurin has better things to do than waste his time reading and responding to people in a forum.
This is creepin bashing, trying get people to dump, buy and then pump again.
Are you talking about a "newb" investor or one new to this board. A new investor shouldn't be dabbling with penny and sub penny stocks until he has done some serious studying on the subject. Anybody playing with penny stocks should know enough to do their own DD and even then be prepared to lose his investment.
I haven't seen anyone at this board trying to dupe a newb into buying stock. The majority here, from what I see, are trying to pump themselves up in the hopes of finally capitalizing on their investment.
Based on the PR of July 16, 2012:
" "The interactive website for MyLottoClicks should be completed within the next two weeks and subsequent selling of the software worldwide, shortly thereafter. "
However, anybody that knows anything about website creation will tell you that "should" and reality are quite different. The company would have been better off not saying anything than give a time.
Shareholders complain when there are few announcements and complain when there are PRs and they are late with the dates of the projects as announced. Companies are in a no win situation.
Ah, we are making headway, at least now you don't question which company Avix is dealing with anymore, now it's only the location.
You got the location on Cypress Road from an independent website, corporation wiki. They state they got their information on Helpful from the Florida State Department. Well, whoever got that information from them should have gotten the correct address as it clearly gives all the addresses of the company and Cypress isn't mentioned at all.
So, who are you going to believe, the Florida State Department or wiki corporation where a lot of their information is incorrect.
Re:
Annual Reports
Report Year Filed Date
2010 04/19/2010
2011 01/06/2011
2012 02/16/2012
...outdated,
www.helpfultechnologies.com Copyright 2011 Helpful Technologies, Inc.
All rights reserved. ... outdated...
all my facts seem to be opinion...
How is an annual report filed on Feb. 16, 2012 outdated? IT IS AN ANNUAL REPORT! You want them to file the 2012 annual report before the year the year is completed?
The Copyright line is not outdated. All it says is that the website is copyrighted. The fact you don't change the year on it every year doesn't mean the site is not copy protected.
Now, if you were to actually state facts, then they would be facts, however, you are posting what you believe are facts when they are merely your opinion and not actual facts. And that is a fact.
The close is just as relevant or irrelevant as the high. Purchasing a hundred shares just to hit a new high doesn't increase the value of the stock or should have any bearing on whether or not to invest in that stock. The indicators that are of more value are the P/E, Dividend and volume.
It appears someone hasn't done their DD. It appears that several officers are listed.
Florida Profit Corporation
HELPFUL TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
Filing Information
Document Number P08000001346
FEI/EIN Number 262232604
Date Filed 01/04/2008
State FL
Status ACTIVE
Effective Date 01/01/2008
Last Event AMENDED AND RESTATED ARTICLES
Event Date Filed 06/28/2010
Event Effective Date NONE
Principal Address
3732 SW 30 AVENUE
2-ND FLOOR
FT. LAUDERDALE FL 33312
Changed 01/06/2011
Mailing Address
POST OFFICE BOX 220830
HOLYWOOD FL 33022
Changed 08/10/2009
Registered Agent Name & Address
BOLOGNA, STEFANIA ESQ.
150 SE 2ND AVENUE
SUITE 1010
MIAMI FL 33139 US
Name Changed: 02/16/2012
Address Changed: 04/19/2010
Officer/Director Detail
Name & Address
Title P/D
GURIN, SERGEY V
3800 SOUTH OCEAN DRIVE
HOLLYWOOD FL 33019
Title D
HAILSTON, EARL B
35015 SUNNY RIDGE ROAD
ROUND HILL VA 20141
Title VP/D
BAEHR, MARK W
7404 SRING VALLEY ROAD
DALLAS TX 75254
Title D
AZARPAD, AMIR
3732 SW 30 AVENUE
FORT LAUDERDALE FL 33312
Title D
FINLEY, CHANDLER R
150 SE 2ND AVENUE
MIAMI FL 33139
Annual Reports
Report Year Filed Date
2010 04/19/2010
2011 01/06/2011
2012 02/16/2012
What I posted was the close, not the hundred shares that someone purchased and lost money at to get the pps up for a minute or two.
Re: "I could have dumped much much more and brought this lower then 0.001"
I seriously doubt you have enough shares to have accomplished this.
There's too many shareholders who would have stopped you from doing that. I for one.
The highest it closed at in 2012 was $0.019 and the highest close in the last 12 months was $0.185.
If you go to the website, you will notice that the company uses both.
"Helpful Technologies Inc. is an engineering and integrated technology company engaged in developing and manufacturing of novel solutions addressing global mega-trends. We conduct our business activities in three principal segments: (i) innovation, (ii) manufacturing, and (iii) leasing."
Then at the bottom of the site you will see: "© Copyright 2011 Helpful Technologies, Inc."
I am not questioning the legitimacy of the deal, just the forecasts and the only reason I am skeptical about those is they haven't said where the revenue is going to come from.
It is my intent to eventually sell them as it is with any investor purchasing stock. They don't buy shares to hold on to them forever.
How many millions do you want and what do you want to pay for them?
You are correct, I am wrong on one statement I made, that they didn't mention AVIX, however, clicking on the PR on the link you provided, thank you very much, gave me this:
"The story you requested could not be found.
To find what you're looking for, try one of these options:
MarketWatch Front Page
A starting place for all your financial news and information needs.
Search
Search MarketWatch news, past and present.
Quotes
Get quotes for stocks, mutual funds, options and major market indexes. "
Doing a search on their website gave me the following:
"Sorry, no posts matched your criteria."
www.mylottoclicks.com is up.
Domain Name: MYLOTTOCLICKS.COM
Expiry Date: 16-Mar-2013
Creation Date: 16-Mar-2012
Admin Name: Sergey Gurin
Admin Company: Helpful Technologies, Inc
Admin Email Address: svgurin@helpfultechnologies.com
Admin Address: 3732 SW 30th Avenue 2nd floor
Admin City: Fort Lauderdale
Now the interesting part is when you go to the site, it is currently running a mobile web application contest by a company called Net Element, a publicly traded company, NETE, ($0.10) on the OTCQB. NETE just announced a merger with a Russian company to be the operator of a mobile commerce platform for Russia and other emerging markets.
What would be interesting to know is what exactly the relationship is, if any, between NETE and Helpful and AVIX which is supposed to have acquired the domain name in the purchase of the software. I would have thought upon closing that AVIX would have put up something to the effect that the website is currently under developement and will be available in the near future. That would give shareholders something to look forward to.
What I also find interesting is that when you go to the Helpful website they don't mention AVIX anywhere, no PR's with regards to AVIX and when you do a search for "AVIX" it doesn't find the word.
Most PR's have a comment from both companies whenever they make an announcement, yet zero comments from anyone at Helpful in the Avix PR's. Strange.
Helpful Technologies Inc. is a private company and according to their website are actually a revenue producing company. Being a private company they obviously don't have their shares trading on a public stock exchange.
Their forecast was to generate $8.1 mil in their first year of operations. If they really believe in that, why sell that part of their business for a mere 100 mil restricted stock in a shell company (less than 25% of the shares outstanding)? Why not take $250K to $500K and do a RTO? That way you will have publicly traded shares and you continue to own the majority, probably over 75%, of this supposedly lucrative business that will generate $72 million in 3 years and every year thereafter.
What's worth more, a one time influx of 100 mil restricted stock trading at a penny or less or an annual revenue stream of $72 mil?
Now, if you really believed in those projections,what would an astute business CEO do?
"No one accepts restricted shares as compensation unless they have strong confidence in the underlying company and business plans."
Helpful had no choice but take restricted shares. No one was ever going to give them cash for their software program. If they felt that their software program was going to generate the profits they forecast, why sell it for shares that are restricted for a year, especially shares from a shell company with no business and no revenue? Why not take the revenue generated from this great new software they own (and forecast to generate millions) and do a RTO and own the majority of the company as opposed to only getting less than 25% of Avix? If they really had that strong confidence in their business plan they wouldn't have sold it for a mere 100 million shares in a shell company that has a history of going nowhere.
He may be buying but with as many shares as he has I doubt he is buying more. On the other hand, for every buyer there has to be a seller and over 12 mil have been sold in the past 45 days. What I am suggesting, and I may be all wet here, is that ever since Avix started down the path with Helpful, employees of Helpful probably started to buy shares in anticipation of them going up once the deal was closed and maybe dumping them now that it has. They probably know that the projected forecast is pie in the sky and will probably not even come close to the numbers forecast.
I read the posts. So one person identified himself, but there several shareholders dumping as the volume in July was over 7 million shares and just in August it is already up to over 5.5 million shares. That's more than 1 Avix shareholder. That is over 12 million shares traded in the past 45 days.
There aren't very many shareholders that have millions of shares other than insiders.
All I am doing is asking the question that, just maybe, could it be that Helpful employees know something and are dumping some of their shares. Very few on this board appear to be dumping theirs and I may be wrong but I don't think that the majority here had multi-millions of shares in Avix that they have sold.
Re:
"I'd like to throw out this possibility - the supporters of Helpful Tech might have an interest in gaining a position? They would be mighty grateful to anyone who would like to dump their shares in the sub-penny region."
If you believe it is just one or two investors dumping their stock (and it has been millions of shares), could it be be a couple of employees at Helpful dumping their stock knowing it won't come close to reaching the forecast revenues?
Asking the questions isn't the problem, it's getting the right answer or an answer that they are allowed to give. They can't or I should say they shouldn't (regulatory wise) tell anyone any more specifics than what has been announced.
Projections are only forecasts and are based on a lot of assumptions. Those projections and and $5.00 will get you a coffee at Starbucks.
Of course nobody is going to publish poor projections. What they don't tell you in their optimistic projections is how and where their revenue is coming from. Like I said, there are dozens of free lotto number generators out there and you'd have to be stupid to pay for one so what is the source of their projected revenue?
I don't see where Avix is going to earn the revenue they had forecast, at least not with a website that is nothing but a lotto number generator. There are dozens of them out there, all free and with very few advertisers on their sites. I'm interested to see the website and what sets them apart from all the other free ones. Nobody is going to pay for getting lotto numbers so there has to be another revenue stream in order for them to earn any income.
You can put out all the positive PR's you want and spin them any number of ways, but until they actually come to fruition, they are of very little value.
It looks like that one lone seller has millions of shares. Or maybe, just maybe, a few people know something that we don't know and are getting out while they can still get something for their investment.
Even a PR isn't going to drive the pps up, none of theirs have in the last couple of years. In fact they have had the opposite effect. The only positive a PR could announce now is that the website is up, but that by itself won't make any difference since the company won't be generating any revenue for quite some time.
Once the company starts generating revenue the serious money will come in and the pps will take care of itself based on profitability.
Just my opinion, but a PR coming out now won't have much of an effect on the pps. The best they can announce is they have the website up. Once it's up they have to demonstrate that their business plan will work and that will take time. There are a lot of free Lotto random number generators out there so their income has to come from advertisers. You need a lot of hits to attract the bigger advertisers.
Pretty well every time a PR came out, the share price dropped. The last one, July 16, pp went from $0.009 to $0.007 on 447,000 volume and went down to 0.006 on July 25 before somebody started to buy and it went up to 0.013 on July 27. And this was one of the better PRs where they actually announced something of value, closing a deal, not just announcing an LOI.
Tony explained it very well. A shorter selling the the stock today at $0.0135 and buying it when it goes back to $0.007 (which is likely with this stock) has doubled his money. Even if it just goes back to a penny he has made a 35% profit. There's enough volume in this stock to take such a risk if one was inclined to short it.
I didn't say I would short it. I said I could make more $$$ shorting it than waiting for it to go to $0.60 without the company becoming a revenue producing company. I have acquired enough shares in this company at a pretty good price to be able to wait and see what happens. I'm not going to short the stock, but there are a traders out there that are shorting this stock and are making money doing it.
All shareholders here have been waiting for quite some time for the price to go to 0.60 and it hasn't been close to that. Another PR announcing another LOI isn't going to change anything. They put them out because they have to. They don't earn the company any revenue and it isn't an asset until closed and acted upon. The true value is still in the penny to 2 pennies/share.
Until the company becomes an operating company and begins to earn revenue it will never hit $0.60. Once it does become a "real" company it can easily go over $1.00 depending upon it's financials.
The shorters are going to see that it reflects its true value and a company with no business isn't worth much (certainly not 60 cents/share). I can make more $$$ shorting this stock than waiting for the price to go up without any real progress in the company.
Good response and I agree with you on, well, everything. Tony, by making it public in this forum has put himself in a position where he cannot (legally) trade the stock now until the next PR comes out. He also has now become an insider and he has a fiduciary duty not to divulge this info to anyone else as that person could take advantage of this info and trade.
Reno, on the other hand, has opened himself up to liability by talking to Tony and divulging the information. A shareholder, knowing this, could report Reno to the SEC as he has breached his fiduciary duty to the shareholders by disclosing material information before it is made public. If no trades take place because of the insider information then probably he will be OK, but I guarantee you that the SEC would remind him of his fiduciary duty to keep his mouth shut.
I agree with you that when you receive insider information, keep it to yourself and act accordingly. People trade on insider information all the time, the smart ones just don't publicize it!
True, there is no rule against hearing something, but there is a rule against an insider divulging non-public information to an outsider. It makes no difference if the tippee acts on it or not, it is the insider, the tipper, that has violated SEC rules by divulging this non-public information to an outsider.
The tippee can now not trade until that information has been made public or he will be guilty of insider trading. Had he heard this from a third party he could act on it, but having had a direct conversation regarding the information he is now been put in the position where he cannot act on it until after it has been made public.
The tipper, in this case Reno, has a fiduciary duty to keep non-public information private and is liable under section 10b-5, Insider Trading.
If anyone from the company said anything to any outsider that has not been made public regarding anything planned or even discussed then Reno has violated SEC rules with regards to insider information/insider trading.
I agree and there are more items that could be added. Penny stocks are very volatile and anyone in it is hoping that the one he picks will be the "big" one. Very few pan out...
There are books written on the subject...
Re: "you havent done one bit of dd on avix nor its management".
Maybe I haven't but here is what I know about Avix and management,
1. It was incorporated in 1999 as USA Digitel and changed its name to Avix in 2001 with a focus on production and distribution of crude oil and natural gas.
2.Prior to its aquisition in 2010 by the Canadian group it was a CLEC (Competitive Local Exchange Carrier) or a small Telco trying to sign up ISP's, etc. although it never did get any customers and didn't make a dime. Hence the sale.
3. As of 2010, new management pursued several aquisitions in the high tech industry to try and increase shareholder value. After several PR's of potential deals, due diligence showed they were not a good value for the company and did not close.
4. Following a change in the Presidency and Board, the new President, announced an agreement with Helpful Technologies and following due diligence was closed in a relatively short time.
5. The company is still a shell company with no revenue, no earnings, but with liabilities.
6. The share price based on their earnings and assets (yet to be determined what the software contracts true value is), is probably where it should be until the company becomes a reporting issuer and starts to have some income.
7. Most shareholders in Pink sheet stocks do so because they read the stuff put out by the numerous penny stock newsletters, etc. reading a PR and hyping the stock as the "next" big one. Then those same shareholders are disappointed when the stock doesn't go up as expected.
8. A good place to see what the stock is going to do is check to see if Insiders are selling or buying the stock. If selling that means they have no faith in the company and if buying they expect something good is going to happen down the road and they are increasing their position.
9. The President of the company has no influence in the direction the stock is going. It is strictly a matter of supply and demand. All he can do is report what the company is doing. He cannot announce potential deals without a LOI or agreement. It is the investors that need to analyze these PR's and make a decision as to whether or not it is beneficial for them to invest or not. You can't blame the company if the deal does not close.
10. If you don't have faith in the Management of the company, DON'T invest in that company.
No reason to delete your post, but before responding to a post it might be a good idea to read it first. My opening sentence was:
"Just because I haven't been in this forum doesn't mean I am a new shareholder. In fact, the opposite is true. I've been a shareholder for years."
Just because I haven't been in this forum doesn't mean I am a new shareholder. In fact, the opposite is true. I've been a shareholder for years.
Like I said before, all the President can do is, as he is required to do, look for an asset that will increase shareholder value and put out PR's as to any news that would have a significant impact to the company. It is up to the shareholders to analyze the financials and PR's and make a decision whether or not to purchase shares. I don't think the company held a gun to any person's head to purchase shares in Avix. Shareholders bought stock because they thought they could make some money or had received a tip from someone who said it was a good stock to aquire. The company didn't get the money you paid for your shares, that went to the person who sold them.
The current President has fulfilled everything he said he would do. He announced he would close the deal with Helpful Technologies and he did. He said they were pursuing other aquisitions and I am sure he is as any President of any company would trying to increase shareholder value. Whether or not he is successful in finding an aquisition that makes sense for shareholders or not is something to be determined.
As a shareholder, what would you have the company do? If you were President, what would you do other than what the President is doing, trying to make the company an operating company and increase shareholder value?
If you have the winning formula, why not share it with the rest of us shareholders and the company?
Right, and that has nothing to do with the President of Avix or the company. It is the speculators that are buying shares and the shareholders who bought stock at half a penny or less who are taking their profit.
The company itself has no control over the share price. All the company can do is put out PR's as to what they are doing, as they must according to regulations, and hope the stock will go up. In the end it is shareholders and market makers that decide what the stock is trading at.
There are quite a few FREE Lotto Number generators on the web. Why pay someone when it's free. Therefore, I think they are looking at advertising revenue to be their main cash generator.
I'm guessing someone currently with or has been with Helpful Technologies?