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Yeah Delta, but that article is a little sensationalized. When I worked for the FAA these problems existed too. While the MRO (Maintenance, Repair, Overhaul) facilities may not be FAA "Approved" the carrier must still have representatives on site that oversee the work and sign off that it is within FAA standards. These individuals are risking not only their licenses but HUGE fines and imprisionment. Also, the Principals of the airline would DEFINATELY be fined and imprisioned if any part of the system were circumvented. In fact, in each of the examples that were (Except the US Airways incident) The CEO's of the respective companies received prison time (the least one being 5 years). This is one place that the FAA does not give any leadway. The stance is very clear, if a company is trying to swave a few dollars by using a non-approved station then there is no breaks given if an incident occurs.
This being the case, I am not too concerned about the maintenance qualilty. My only concern is, and has been, the management quality. I have met most of the folks doing the certification process for Baltia nad they are truly great and competent people, but the executive level are incredibly "iffy" in my opinion, it is almost like they are learning as they go. They read something somewhere and assume it applies. My friends that are working there in the offices are adamant that if the Executives would have listened to the consultants and done as they said, the airline would have been flying months ago, but apparently Igor had to have it his way or no way. (Just repeating what I am told) Apparently he is very paranoid and quite the control freak, but beyond that, they are determine to make it work due to their own pride and professionalism. It is these guys that kep me confident they will get the airline off the ground, or will if the money is raised. Lets all hope so.
Does anyone remember this???
FAA Certification Schedule Of Events - Timeline
Baltia Air Lines --------- December 8, 2009
FAA Certification Proposed Schedule of Events
Dec 8 ---------------- Submit Application Package
Dec 15 ---------------- Formal Application Meeting
Feb 8 ---------------- Receive Initial Approval for ICCA Training
Feb 10 --------------- Begin Instructor Training - Pilot - Flight Attendant - Dispatch
Feb 16 --------------- Begin Instructor Training - Maintenance
Feb 22 --------------- Begin ICCA Training
Feb 22 --------------- Begin Basic Indoctrination - Pilot - Flight Attendant - Dispatch - Maintenance
Feb 24 --------------- Submit Completed Aircraft Conformity Documentation
Mar 1 ---------------- Aircraft Ready for FAA Conformity Evaluation
Mar 3 ---------------- Submit Emergency Evacuation and Ditching Plan
Mar 3 ---------------- Submit Proving-Test Plan
Mar 3 ---------------- Generate Proving-Test Operation Specifications
Mar 8 ---------------- All Manuals Approved/Accepted
Mar 8 ---------------- Begin Aircraft Ground Training - Pilot - Flight Attendant - Dispatch - Maintenance
Mar 10 --------------- Begin Emergency Training - Flight Attendant
Mar 17 --------------- Begin Competency Check Supervisor Training - Dispatch
Mar 17 --------------- Begin Maintenance Inspector Training
Mar 18 --------------- Begin Emergency Training - Pilot
Mar 20 --------------- Begin Simulator/Aircraft Training - Pilot
Mar 29 --------------- Begin Check Airmen Training - Pilot
Mar 29 --------------- Begin Competency Check Supervisor Training - Flight Attendant
Mar 29 --------------- Begin Competency Checks - Dispatch
Mar 29 --------------- Training Completed For Phase 3 Participants
Mar 31 --------------- Submit Operational Readiness Results
Apr 5 --------------- Tabletop Exercise
Apr 14 -------------- Evacuation/Ditching Demonstration
Apr 20 -------------- Proving Test
May 3 --------------- Finish Proving Runs
MAY 6 --------------- PROPOSED OPERATION START DATE
12/22/2009 DOT Filing. Pages 51-52:
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‘Leaders in Aviation’ awards to be presented at Doha summit
Abdul Aziz al-Noaimi ... welcoming peers from around the world
More than 200 industry experts from all over the world will attend the three-day Doha Aviation Summit, which begins here on October 30, the Qatar Civil Aviation Authority said yesterday.
The Doha Aviation Summit is being hosted by the Qatar Civil Aviation Authority at the Grand Hyatt Hotel.
Under the theme of ‘Vision For Limitless Skies’, the summit will host influential leaders and representatives from airports, airlines, civil aviation authorities, and government bodies who will discuss key challenges facing the industry and strategies for growth and development.
Qatar Civil Aviation Authority chairman Abdul Aziz al-Noaimi has invited regional and global airlines, airports, and civil aviation authorities to the ‘Leaders in Aviation Awards’, ceremony to be held as part of the Doha Aviation Summit tomorrow.
The ‘Leaders in Aviation Awards’ recognise and honour individuals and organisations for their distinctive contributions made to the aviation industry. The judging panel comprises of industry experts representing international aviation media, associations, and leading industry practitioners.
One of the most coveted categories for the year is the ‘Airport of the Year Award 2010’ that invites nominations from airports that have strong business models and have played a positive role in promoting; safety and security, innovation, airline partnerships, adoption of new technology and practices, and economic development.
Other award categories include ‘Airline of the year award 2010’, ‘Low cost carrier of the year 2010’, ‘Green initiative of the year by an airport 2010’, ‘Green initiative of the year by an airline 2010’, ‘Fastest fleet expansion of the year 2010’, ‘Best airport and airline partnership of the year 2010’.
The organisers have announced that Bechtel, Selex Sistemi Integrati SPA, Mitsubishi Aircraft Corp, Thales Group, Sky Oryx JV TAV Group and Taisei Corp, Northrop Grumman Park Air System, Doha Sky Services, Bombardier, Honeywell Airport Systems, Ekin Proje, Vanderlande, Vaisala, Rizon Jet, Simcore, ILF Consulting Engineers, NATS, and Travelport are the main sponsors for the summit.
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Not sure how Baltia is being recognised by a Middle Eastern based program. I will have to double check, but I did not think that US carriers usually put themselves up for nomination in these types of avenues. It is good exposure I guess and will probably help us to raise some money form the Arab investors. Hopefully the price will go up if they get involved. Below is an article:
Qatar Civil Aviation Authority to host the Leaders in Aviation Awards
Posted on 28 September 2010 in Events
Regional and global airlines, airports and civil aviation authorities have been invited to put their names forward for the Leaders in Aviation awards supported by the Qatar Civil Aviation Authority
H.E. Abdul Aziz Al Noaimi, chairman of Qatar Civil Aviation Authority announced today that the awards will be held as part of the Doha Aviation Summit on the October 30th 2010 in Doha, Qatar.
Doha Aviation Summit, hosted by the Qatar Civil Aviation Authority is taking place on October 30th till November 1st 2010 in Grand Hyatt Hotel, Doha. Under the theme of ‘vision for limitless skies’, the summit will host over 200 influential leaders and representatives from international airports, airlines, civil aviation authorities, and government bodies discussing the key challenges facing the industry and strategies for unified growth and development.
The Leaders in Aviation Awards recognise and honour individuals and organisations for their distinctive contributions made to the aviation industry. The judging panel comprises of industry experts representing international aviation media, associations, and leading industry practitioners. The awards highlight success stories and a broad spectrum of innovations from airports, airlines, and related organisations. Recognitions include corporate achievements, strongest individual efforts, and the compelling community efforts.
One of the most coveted categories for the year is the Airport of the Year Award 2010 that invites nominations from airports that have strong business models and have played a positive role in promoting; safety and security, innovation, airline partnerships, adoption of new technology and practices, and economic development. Other award categories include:
· Airline of the year award 2010
· Low cost carrier of the year 2010
· Green initiative of the year by an airport 2010
· Green initiative of the year by an airline 2010
· Fastest fleet expansion of the year 2010
· Best airport and airline partnership of the year 2010
The awards ceremony is a part of the welcome reception to take place on October 30th in the evening which will be then followed by the two day interactive discussion.
Amongst others, some of the key issues to be discussed during the the Doha Aviation Summit include:
· Investigation of the volcanic ash disruption and its impact on aviation organisations outside of Europe.
· The formulation and implementation of a sustainable regulatory framework as we approach COP16.
· ATC route management in sync with the Middle East airport expansion projects through hub growth.
· The human resource challenge in the Arab world.
· Financial risks and management challenges.
· Effective integration of alternative fuel research and implementation for mass transport in line with the international reforms and rising fuel costs.
Following the support of Mr. Abdul Wahab Teffaha, Secretary General, Arab Air Carriers Organisation, the aviation experts who will be discussing these key issues during the three day summit include:
· Mr. Graham Lake, Director General, CANSO
· Mr. Jonathan Moor, Director General for Civil Aviation, UK Department for Transport
· Dr. Brian Pearce, Chief Economist, IATA
· Mr. Akbar Al Baker, CEO, Qatar Airways
· Dr. Tidu Maini, Executive Chairman, Qatar Science And Technology Park , Qatar Foundation
· Mr. Patrick KY, Executive Director, SESAR Joint Undertaking
· Mr. Aaron Heslehurst, News Anchor & Presenter, BBC World Television
· Mr. Adel Ali, CEO, Air Arabia
· Dr. Charles E. Schlumberger, Principal Air Transport Specialist, World Bank
· Mr. Stefan Pichler, CEO, Jazeera Airways
· Mr. Abdul Wahab Teffaha, Secretary General, AACO
· Dr. Sani Sener, CEO, TAV Group
· Dr. Temel Kotil, President & CEO, Turkish Airlines
· Dr Majdi Sabri, VP – MENA, IATA
· Dr Othman Al Khoury, GM, Gulf Center for Aviation Studies – ADAC
· Mr Curtis Grad, CEO, Airport International Group, Jordan
· Capt Chris Schroder, Head - CSR, energy and environment, Qatar Airways
· Dr. Fred Prata. Senior Scientist. Climate and Atmosphere Department. Norwegian Institute for Air Research
· Mr. Andrew Parker, Senior Vice President, Public Affairs, International Affairs, Industry Affairs, Environment Affairs, Emirates Airlines amongst others.
The only problem with that line of thought Pipa is that unless they either raise capital or utilize the LOC then we will not see the aircraftin JFK. The company currently (acording to the people that work at terminal 4 for Baltia) does not have enough money to pay for the maintenance check and begin the training process. They are keeping a low profile right not in hopes of selling enough private shares to make a payment on the ongoing maintenance. Then they will deal with the money for the training. The current thought is why start worrying about the money for the training until they can see some light on paying for the maintenance. This info current about 2 weeks ago.
I agree, but what we do not need is the same tired old rheotric of "this is the best" "buy now and get rich" etc. We need verifiable (not just from the mouths of Barry and Igor), transparent timelines and updates. If they were to post some of the Maintenance Facilities updates and milestones, show they were not afraid to take the LOC risk, and post all the contracts to show it is not just smoke and mirrors it would win back the confidence of current investors. This would cause the stock to shoot up like a rocket as most investors could finally see where they actually are and begin investing again. But as Barry has lost all his credibility and the releases all have no real substance then everyone is sitting on their wallets until they can prove something. Somewhere Baltia management has lost sight of the fact that we as investors are OWNERS of this company. We have the same rights and privledges as does Igor. Granted, he may have the majority of shares, but never-the-less we all have the right to know what they are doing with the company. And I do not mean they have to share all costs and those details; just what is done and what is left to be done. what is the financial situation? how far off were they on the maintenance estimates and how much do they need to make everything happen? It really urinates me of when I call and all the info they will give is basically "it is going well, slow, but it will be a great investment". I ,or someone in my little "group" calls fairly often. I have steered several of my friends away from investing in the private offerings based on this, and I will continue to tell people that I care about that it is a best unsure at this time until they begin to communicate with us.
They reapplied for the exemption and are confident the DOT will extend. The additional capital is not coming as hoped, but then it never does for anyone. They are still hoping to hire soon, but they do not want to start the process and have to string people along or pay them for any more than they have to (again from a financial point they are trying to get the aircraft paid and back and the people trained and ready for when it arrives) there is no need in putting money into training when the money is needed for the aircraft @ this moment. when they can better firm up an competion date on the aircraft (again financial driven) then I (my opinion here) think about 5 weeks prior to that completion date they will start hiring and training.
I still think we are getting close, remember, there is still the Line of Credit that is promised by Igor and others of the Management staff that can be drawn upon. The biggest concern I have is why they are so reluctant to put their money on the line and loan it to the company. If they are so sure it is a moneymaker then it would make sense to loan the money and reap the interest on the loan.
We all just need to keep our ears open and read the posts carefully, hopefully no-one starts dumping the restricted shares that were sold in the past and starts driving the price down.
I am just going by what a few of the employees there are saying to me.
Just spoke with my friends there at Baltia and this is what I was told. The aircraft is on a maintenance program of C1 thru C4 checks. Due to the aircraft sitting in the desert so long and the unavailability of maintenance records from Pakastani Airlines all 4 C-Checks would have to be encompassed. This is not as frightening as it may first sound from a volume standpoint as there are many tasks that are repeated on each C-check (IE changing various system filters). Obviously, changing the filters once (as logic dictates) would be able to solve the same card in each check as the checks are being concurrently. There is still the scope that the entire aircraft would have to be inspected though to answer all the C-check paper work. (each C-check has many tasks uniqe to that C-chedk only; for instance, a C-3 may require a aft-pressure bulkhead inspection. this would be due only when a C3-check rotated around again) By these "segmented" checks, aircraft do not have to be in maintenance so long, and the costs are obviously lower, hence the airlines use them. We must however take the time and expense to perform them all concurrently.
Money is now the issue again, Baltia is having problems raising the money for the work (quite a bit higher than expected) and to be able to hire the initial cadre of employees and pay for training. They are trying, but all the familiar wells have gone dry. Estimate on aircraft out of Maintenance mid-November.
I do not think any investors have any stake in trying to move the prive at this low rate or volumes. The only possible thing that this "manupilation" woule benefit if Baltia were subsidising these purchases in order to keep the level up enough they could offer the "private" share sales at a beneficial price. (IE: they would have a hard time selling lots of 10,000 shares at 3 cents a share if one could buy any amount unrestricted openly at 4 cents a share with no limits on hold time of the shares)But that would be illegal and I honestly do not beleive they are out and out dishonest. They may use innuendo to make the whole project smell like roses, but not I do not think anything Illegal would be tolerated by Igor.
I think they are going to fly. I simply am stating that I will be suprised (but hopeful) that it will be this year. If I was a betting girl (and I am) I believe that realisticaly this airline will be in the air first quarter of 2011. They only thing I am not sure of and will have to research again though, was, did the DOT only give them an extension until Sept??
No I do not think so. I believe that now it is getting close enough that one of the people that has put their name on the LOc may be willing to put up their house or 401k to loan the money to the company to get the aircraft out. I do not understand that since Igor is the largest guarantor of the LOC (per the filings) why he does not just ante up the cash and take the payback when it flies. Still I think they will get the cash somewhere. But unless they begin the hiring and training now they will not fly this year. The various training classes are only 4 to 6 weeks to accomplish, but there also slots and equipment availabilities to consider as well as the washouts and they must have the attendants available to do the ditching requirements. Also, they are making it a requirement that all crew and attendants live within 50 miles of JFK so there will be no hotels given, they cannot be a member of any union, and they must train prior to be put on payroll (I think is how it was explained when we met with Igor and Barry a few years ago...it may take awhile to find enough people to take the job. I am more concerned about the Manual certification with the FAA than I am the aircraft. When I spoke with my contacts last they said the manual "had a looong way to go."
Had a chance to meet with a couple of folks (my sources if you will) from Baltia last week and it seems that Baltia is needing to raise some more money due to the Maintenace estimates were a bit low. They are trying to get a new source to raise the capital because Barry has used up all his contacts and credibility. Apparently many of the previous investors have pretty much told Barry he has tried to mislead them too many times so while he will still be a big part of Baltia his resources have dwindled. No one in the office has told them the exact numbers they need to raise but they are again offering private lots with a 6 month hold and warrants. My fear again is in 6 months, when these big lots can be sold on the open market it will again dilute prices. we will just have to wait and see. Other than this, it appears that things are on the way to getting the aircraft in the air. If Igor can raise his revenue, then the work can continue uninterrupted and the aircraft could feasibly still make it in the air this year. On a side note, money is still needed for hiring/training/personnel/ contracts (previously signed but no money given)/ etc. I am sure the money being raised has this all factored in and not just for the maintenance check.
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We do have a new problem to deal with...I hope Igor has someone staying with the aircraft to protect it as Chicken is one of the main staples in Incheon. There are Dozens of Chicken and Beer Hof's just outside the airport and I can only imagine how they would love to get hold of a chicken the size of a 747 tail.
most assuredly this is true, or if there were any problem, they would go back to the maint facility
I am sure there will be a bit of a delay in LAX. Lets face it the aircraft has not been in the air in years and has not undergone the various stresses that only flight can give, drag, flex, expansion, etc. It is entirely conceivable and very likely there will be a couple of mechanical issues to deal with before the aircraft attempts a 13 and a half hour flight across the ocean. I am sure they will not be able to hold the amount of fuel necessary to make it all the way to Incheon (although if empty it should have just enough capacity for the flight) but it would be quite a gamble on an aircraft unknowing the fuel consumption rate. I believe they will take tha aircraft up the coast and over Anchorage as a safety recaution, they may even throw in a fuel stop in ANC.
Another reason for the delay is that LAX is a terrible place to get fuel as they are so busy, it is possible to have to wait a couple of hours if you get in there at the wrong time.
Still, a flight of any kind has been promising, now if they can afford the expensive part of becoming an airline they might be okay. The big costs now begin, so far there has only been a drop in the bucket, now hiring and employee training, the maintenance check, background checks, drug testing, a lot of little monies that add up quick beging. Good luck, I still have hopes of getting all our monies back.
Ferry Permits only allow ESSENTIAL flight crew members to fly on the aircraft, all others will have to buy tickets on commercial flights as will the return flights for the crew.
people been asking those questions for several years...they still have no answer, but people keep giving money.
Barry said so on a phone call.
the information that investors get from Baltia
Maybe we can invest in the insurance, then when the aircraft takes a swim, we can all make out. Maybe we can at least insure it for enough to buy a good aircraft when it happens.
No...I did not. I did talk with some folks out there that I know, and they are making progress. Things are slow because Baltia has a lot of money problems, or should I say not problems, but they really had no idea as to what real world costs were to get this project accomplished. They are doing it, but if they need a widget of some sort and Evergreen tells them it is $10,000. then Baltia starts calling every aircraft graveyard and contact known to man to find one cheaper. this may hold up work for a couple of days sometimes. He also said that they are going to really be shocked after the aircraft gets to Malaysia and they start adding on things after they get care, custody and control, of the aircraft, but Igor is adamant they are honorable people. (Why else would they be so much cheaper than everyone else.)
Anyway, bottom line, progress is being made, very slow due to Baltia and money flow, but progress still. He has no idea when the aircraft will leave, but not before Evergreen is Paid in Full he jokes.
We will just see I guess. I personally do not see it happening this year, winter is the slow time and travel is so discounted that i am not sure they could make money flying then with all the ancillary costs. If the flights have not began by October, then the smart money would be to wait till March or April. Again, that is opinion.
Wonder if they can still make that July 12th slot they told us about??
I was leaning toward agreeing with you a few weeks ago, but now that the company is selling the "private offering" stocks again to some of us (well not me I have already told my stories) any way, they are selling stock that will not show up on the board price because it is private, that money goes into current operating costs and pockets and to pay for finishing the arcraft. (Remember just a few months ago when I was predicting this and the folks kept posting here that they had all the money they needed, lines of credit etc?) Now they are trying to raise more, isn't Igor's salary high enough?? The offer is to buy $10,000 blocks of stock at 3 cents each or about 333 thousand shares. Now when the stock finally hits 10 cents again, and people here have been buying in the past at 10 cents and over, lets say the "private investors" decide to sell a hundred thousand because they will clean up on their investment, now where soes our stock price of...in the toilet. Now multiply that time 100 blocks of stock or more, the stock price will never be able to take off. They are having to buy so much stock now on the open market to keep the price up so the 3 cents sounds good for the Private sale.
So the costs are now catching up with the bank accounts. The only for the private sales is that the cash sold in these goes into the current operations of the airline. They usually hurt the investors on the open markets like on the boards here because it does not eccect this price at all. It will allow several thousand (or even million) shares to get sold. Barry is asking 3 cents a share when he called me and wants to sell in & wants to sell in $10,000.00 bundles with warrents to buy more in future. The idea is these have to be held 6 months to a year (whichever you can work out) although I do not know why anyone would accept a year restriction, if you don't buy they will come back with 6 months because they are hurting for tne money to get the aircraft fixed. Anyway, after 6 months, if those buying the stock on the open market have raised the price to 10 or 15 cents per share, they can then sell their (thousands or millions of shares) and the price plummets and the open market folks are left holding the bag. The only reason they would do this is to raise money, and if they are needing to raise money at this point in the game then there greater problems than they letting us know.
Back to old info...why dear God can you not give us something current and relevant. The 12th is approaching fast, if they do not leave until the 11th I will be able to see the plane as I am going to visit my daughter in Scottsdale and I fly into Phoenix and we will drive by Evergreen and check it out.
It has been long time since I have said anything like this, but IF what we are told is true and the aircraft actually leaves for Malaysia this week as advertised then be ready to actually but some stock because there will be a big short term run (again 12-15 cent/share) IMO. it will die there for awhile and probably slip back to about 10cents until the manuals are done and then the stock will steady climb until about 20-25cents or until the aircraft is out of the barn and ready to fly. It will take about 3 - 6 months of flying for the stock to jump on up to th 50cent or more range. But if the aircraf does not go this week as promised I think that most investors will finally have had enough and bail even further and then Baltia will have a tough time getting any addl investors, sure little peaks of folks not familiar with the past but nothing for us to hold out for.
GO BALTIA, FLY THAT CHICKEN ACROSS THE POND AND GIVE US HOPE.
No agenda, as I said and I did before, I just want current non fluff info, when that is being printed I just read and sit quietly, When I see obvious atttempts to belittle and lie to us investors I begin writing again. Give me some good, honest truthful info and I will again stop writing. When I call and speak to Igor or Russ the info is veiled but mostly honest, when I get Barry it is all roses and sunshine and it insults us who have given our monies to you to use. All i want is maybe a quick weekly update. something like:
Tires installed this week. still waiting delivery of interior. flight to malaysia which was reported to happen this week will be delayed until Aug 1st due to financial issue, whatever.
This will not shake any investor, current or just wanting to get in. It shows that you are looking out for us, you are telling us a status, and that you are communicating the setbacks. Nothing elaborate, nothing as a promise, just updates! honest and sincere.
Most AD requirements fall into a series number blanket. and when the AD reads something to the effect B747-all series, it is then that the SN comes into play to see if the AD can be closed by previous MRO visits and proactive maintenance, which this aircraft has obvioulsy been no part of. Considering these are aging aircraft ADs and this aircraft has not been on an aging aircraft program then the ADs shall need accomplishment. Has the aircraft left for Malaysia yet? is it still on schedule for the next few days a previously advertised?? About the only thing that will get the stock back up (other that baltia folks buying it to keep it up) is the airplane heading over to the Check. It will probably get a little 4 or 5 cent boost then and then hang on for either the completion of the check or the completion of the manuals. Unless the time begins to slide into months again. IMHO
The FAA has released 3 new ADs that will effect this model 747 with a cost increase of approx 150 - 200 thousand dollars. (assuming that Malaysia Air is still charging approx $30.00/Manhour labor as they used to several years ago) This will also put a strain on the parts available as it effects all the 747 fleet for everyone. Good news is that Baltia can incorporate it and not have to pull the aircraft out of revenue service to have the AD's complied with. Bad news, more money on an already bankrupt-teetering company. May force them to use the (tongue in cheek here) lines of credit.
About time to start watching the skies as the window is now open for the aircraft to move to Malaysia, unless the info we were given a few weeks ago was just another case of smoke being blown up investors butts. I have been checking flight tracker frequently and as of yet no flight plan has shown up. This is the biggest test so far, if the info given us was factual and the aircraft goes soon then maybe there will regain a little face, but quite honestly I am more expecting it not to happen, and as we all know, it will not be their fault. I would rather they fly as promised and regain at least some credibility.
Yeah almost like someone just sits, waits for X-number of shares to drop the price and then buys the minimum amount to keep it at the level it is. I have noticed this trend for some time now, at least it keeps a semi steady price if someone wants to dump either their previously restricted shares or if they bought in at 2 or 3 cents.
Well maybe it was a womb with a view.
I have made a few inquiries of some old friends, they too are looking into this. Suddenly one of the few things that I have really believed and stated here at this site, the being that Igor is sincere, honest and beleivable, is suddenly begining to fall apart. I have voice many complaints on this site but I had contended that Igor was very above board, now I am nopt so sure. This whole 20 year venture, in which Igor has earned a good living by selling an idea is getting scary. C'mon how many ventures take 20 years to begin..the whole time selling a few hundred thousand of stock per year. Then put a little of it back into the fold in the form of leased office space and a formerly scrapped aircraft to get a little more investment. I am still gonna sit on what I have in rememberance of a loved one now gone, but I do not think I will defend Igor in any way any more. Not sure how the SEC will view this all. Guess we will all wait and see.
Well sit right back and you'll hear a tale, a tale of of a fateful trip, that started from a tropic port aboard this tiny ship.
Almost reminicent of the Titanic movie.
Thats why they chose the chicken, it can't fly so it needs an airplane. The Eagle could just fly on over to Russia by itself.
and it would show off the chicken on the tail
They are all in the finance dept..oh you said reTREADs..never mind.
oh. just like your reply. :>)