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I just want the truth
and where are we heading from a shareholder standpoint. Unfortunately, some DD that I have found in recent weeks have shaken my confidence in this investment. Therefore, I sold some of my holdings. I pretty much have posted 95 % of all my DD to this board both good and bad news. In doing so, I feel that I have been very honest. The posts that I have made are backed up with conversations that I have personally had.
I am still significantly invested in Behl. At this point, I think we have 2 paths to PPS appreciation. 1.) Let Dr. Goodall take full control and run the business his way 2.) Behl is acquired by another company
BG
Therefore I would conclude that:
If distance and time were an issue then the choice of doing business in Death Valley compared to doing business in Palm Springs would refute the claim.
I would think it would be alot easier and more accessible to do business in Palm Springs.
But what do I know. Im back here in this great Buckeye State conducting DD from thousands of miles away.
Greasy --More DD-- I cannot confirm
But have been told several times that Death Valley is of high priority.
The first time I heard this was several months ago. The old Biocentric webpage had a PDF file of an architectural drawing and on that drawing was several KEY PHONE numbers that I extracted. I simply started calling the numbers and one lead to another.
Here is the quick version: Yury who used to work at Behl when Shen did was friends with a knowledgeable contractor. This contractor had a brother who is an architect. When Fisher ran into obstacles at Huntington Beach he needed a quick resolve to present to HB city council the exact layout of Behl's PBR's. So Dennis called this guy and this architect whipped up some very impressive drawings. This guy did his job met in person with Fisher and HB council. However, Fisher never paid the guy. Last time we spoke the gentleman was going to take Fisher to small claims court.
Now this lead to another phone number in which another contractor told me that they were laughing behind Fishers back because there was "no way in hell" his words that a PBR could survive in Death Valley where surface temps hit 130 degress plus. In addition to high winds and various rodents that may puncture the PBR's in search of water.
Plus I keep seeing Death Valley appear here on the discussion boards
Prove me wrong khesanh
You don't know that to be true and you are right, it is only your opinion and nothing more
That's right it's my opinion but the "nothing more" part you state short changes my DD. There is alot more believe me.
Secondly,
You stated--
I would think that you of all people would know better than to come to this board with hearsay such as this. You heard this? Who is your source? I've seen D.F. in many videos including the Huntington Beach City Council Board Hearing and Mr. Fisher always seemed reserved and even presented a certain amount of humbleness.
I have had first hand talks with 3 different sources who dealt DIRECTLY with Fisher and all 3 have spoken of his quick temper and defensiveness. I have names and phone numbers which I will not disclose. We are all calm when things go our way it is how you react in tough times.
khesanh-- let us hear what information you have found. You come on here and throw your opinions out but it is all in response to the DD the rest of us have done.
Show me some initiative tell me something I dont know
BG
I agree GOODALL NEEDS
to run the show from here on !!
no i do not
But why have a mobile unit if your working close.
They will be driving several hours
A day to the current site being developed. That is why they purchased a mobile home unit. The hours drive away was not the issue.
Thanks for your repsonse Greasy
How to get Behl to $ .50 per share
More of Behl Gates DD -- Take it or leave it
Fact:
Behl was presented with an incredible opportunity to work with Wintec. Behl could have constructed their PBR's on Wintec's property with H2O and CO2 access that would be THE PERFECT fit for Behl's PBR's.
Some contractual issues would have needed to been worked through for all parties to agree and to create a WIN/WIN situation.
http://www.wintecenergy.com/
In addition, the PBR's would have been nestled in an area that was saturated with HUGE WIND MILLS in the background. This could have been a Public Relations dream for "GOING GREEN" Wintec wind + Behl PBR's all on one property. Palm Springs local government and various media outlets were also made privy to this possible working relationship and excitement was really starting to take off. It could have even gained National Media coverage If certain things would have fallen into place. Subsequently, alot of parties involved felt let down when this relationship did not transpire.
Dennis Fisher turned it down. While there were probably minor issues to work out... The benefits of working with Wintec FAR OUTWEIGHED THE COSTS !!! In my opinion, this was the GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY of a lifetime for Behl, Behl's shareholders and the quickest route to commercialization. Furthermore, the PBR at Santa Ana has leaked, the turns and the tubing came apart multiple times. In my opinion I believe that is why they are re-molding new turns as discussed in one of my prior posts. Now a new poster comes on and we find out that too much CO2 is being injected causing the pig to jam. Here we are with NOT a single strand of algae growth, missed GOLDEN opportunity and multiple opinions and concerns being voiced here on I-HUB.
This is my business proposal:
I as a Behl shareholder would like to see Dr. Goodall and Jose Sanchez humbly and exclusively meet once again with the Wintec a privately owned company) Dr. Goodall's corporate experience combined with his outstanding credentials and mass degrees of higher education could in my opinion re-work an honest deal with Wintec that would benefit all interested parties. Dr. Goodall could give his expert opinion on what HE NEEDS to perfect the Behl PBR and Jose Sanchez can provide accurate timelines on how long to carry out the construction process all the way to producing various end products of algae. Perhaps, if Dr. Goodall were convincing enought then Wintec could provide unlimited capital needs to make this a success. I would keep Fisher and Barry out of this second meeting.
This is my opinion:
Dennis Fisher is a great visionary and has assembled a tremendous team. However, I have heard he is quite aggressive at times, quick tempered and very defensive. I also believe that his lack of higher education may be a burden at times.
Dr. Goodall needs to have FULL POWER to make the decisions and develop the relationships needed to bring the pieces together to finish the puzzle. The same way he did at Sapphire when his team powered a commercial jet airliner with algae fuel.
Goodall also needs to be the Liason between Behl and Wintec if that were to happen. Fisher needs to step back and relax and serve as recruiter to the colleges that he has formed relationships with and consultant to Behl's development. I would leave the communicating and relationship building to Dr. Goodall. Monique Barry should continue to serve as a marketing director and public relations specialist.
A partnership or some sort of venture with Wintec could be the game changing move that Behl needs.
BG
Good night Board
This has been a week to remember on I-hub. Very interesting developments. I hope we can get some clarification on all the controversial posts this week
Behl Gates signing off
BigBake1 -- Have you communicated with
Team Behl. Is there anyway you can get some up to date information to clear the skies as to all the CORNFUSION.
I would greatly appreciate if you have the chance and if you could report back to I-hub
Sincerely
BG
I know one thing -- It sure as heck
Looks like Gofer had some front and center talks with team Behl. If this isnt a smoking gun I don't know what is.
Pretty impressive document -- That does not look like Dennis Shen's signature either.
Behl Gates posting the truth
To the best of my knowledge:
Board, I backed Behl until I was blue in the face because all my DD proved to me at those times how hard Fisher was working and how he overcame many obstacles to get us to Santa Ana.
However, hardwork does not equate to profits and PPS appreciation. When my DD uncovered severe problems with the PBR I was at first surprised and in disbelief. I feel time is running out along with cash and in my opinion we may be jeopardizing current contractual obligations. Too much risk for me to keep all my shares. I feel there is a much greater percentage of PPS further declining then going up. I'm not posting to play stock games to get "CHEAPIES" etc. I am posting what I am finding out. And-- I am not flipping either. I bought heavily and bought more when Goodall came on board but recently sold off. Now am holding some to see if this pans out.
BG
gracezchen35 -- You and I are not
affiliated but this is EXACTLY why I lightened up my position. I have other sources that are very very SOLID with various reports on Behl.
Now I come home tonight and am quite amazed at how bad things are going. The PBR is not working at all from my DD. It blows apart frequently and your post solidifies my findings.
Now, to all those who criticized my selling off of 70 % of my holdings. Perhaps, you can see why. It only takes a few scared shareholders to create the herd effect (Mass Panic) and with 900 million float, plus continuous bad news this could easily happen IMHO.
Behl Gates IMO waiting to see what happens
Good morning
Hey....Im still in the game. I have plenty of shares I scaled back to my comfort level here. If I find solid evidence to move forward I will at my level of comfort
Thanks. Im not going anywhere just keep doing DD
BG
Well I think I put in a little more
research than sheephearder. If I see or find out solid progress towards profits then I am going to post that too.
Financials gorester
I really want to look closely at their 2nd quarter report. I want to see how the deposits are being reported. The amount of expenses and other fine details.
Where do we fit in with RWE right now ?
Why are we forming more and more JV's ? Each time we JV we reduce revenue potential.
Are we still going to be able to fulfill the 6 million P.O.
Santa Ana PBR is 5,000 - 6,000 square foot and is very challenging.
I am just using common sense here. How can we go to 10 acres before year end. Time is against us now IMO
We will see. Steve 017 is right its a wait and see at this point
bg imho
Steve017 -- Your visit will be
Huge. I trust you will bring back some tremendous information to share.
Hello moderators-- I cant remember
When all 4 of us posted within an hour of each other. I still have a decent amount of shares.
The honest thing was I put more research into this company than any other investment pertaining to stocks. I kept adding and adding and when we brought Goodall on board my confidence was at an all time high.
Then the PBR leaks started and I found some other things out that worried me. I started waking up early just to read I-Hub posts to see where things were going. That is when I knew I was in too heavy so I sold 70 % and invested in a couple solid stocks.
Now I really don't even give Behl nearly the attention I used to. If it takes off I win....If it goes to 0001 I can live with that. It was not healthy for me to be so heavily invested and you have to know your limits.
I hope this thing goes to the moon because I like the people on this board and believe it is a great group of investors that deserve to be rewarded.
BG
I took a loss because I am not willing to lose
any more. I have some left so if this thing takes off I can break even. I had an exit strategy and followed it. No I was not that huge seller HDSN represented. I am small potatoes compared to people like Raymond59
You guys need to realize something. The first run was on emotion millions upon millions of shares bought all the way to .15 with a float of 371 million.
Most of the inexperienced investors have lost big time and probably wont be back. Now we are at a 900 million float and the only way to get the PPS is for real solid numbers. Positive cash flow. I dont see that right now.
CASH IS KING ! Period. How much do you think Behl's payroll is ? Rent ? Utilities ? Permits ? Equipment ? Advertising ? Phone bills ? Taxes ? Travel ?
If someone is loaning them money they will want it back eventually and the PBR is Behl's product offering and it aint offering anything.
I have taken a hard hit.
I am not out completely but lightened my investment by 70 % of what it used to be.
I was in pretty heavy. When Goodall came on board I ended up doubling down around .0095ish
Honestly, I am hoping that someone sees our potential and buys us out.
Greasy -- Have you made contact
with anyone at RWE. Someone on this board has had to of spoken to RWE
I just want to see the PBR working and producing algae
I have been bullish on behl for a year but these past 2 months have shaken me and I am concerned
what if they fertilized it and then
it began to leak again. No they would not have lied but yes there could be more problems
anyone heard from BigBake1?
Something NOT right at Behl
First of all, Raymond59 has quit. Second, BigBake1 hardly posts. Third..My DD which is VERY solid continues to reveal that the PBR in Santa Ana is still leaking as of Memorial Day weekend.
Everytime it leaks I would think they must start over with sterilization and then inoculation.
Where is RWE ? No word at all from RWE.
This is my take. The current turns do not work properly therefore NO PBR's will stay together and thus everything is on hold.
RWE is probably reconsidering. Behl is burning through cash and our current contracts are becoming JV's in order to maintain the business. Behl had to sweeten the deal to keep people on board. That is my gut feel. I CANNOT BELIEVE THE SANTA ANA PBR HAS NOT PRODUCED A SINGLE CUP OF ALGAE. Time is running out we need positive cash flow.
BG IMO
It is frustrating-- I voiced this on post
# 88223
The PBR will keep leaking IMO until the new turns are re-engineered and everytime we lose H20 the inoculation process is further delayed.
I support Behl but they better get this mess fixed. Their expenses are piling up each day. A lofty payroll in addition to increasing purchases of equipment and supplies.
Behl G
Outstanding W. Nola
I hope you continue to post these videos. Very informative to the Board and new investors
sounds like we got the right guy
to consult us on injection molding
es1....YOUR HIRED !! Catch the next flight to Santa Ana
phone calls, e-mails, faxes and follow ups
followed by more phone calls, e-mails and more follow ups. Considering I am several thousand miles away from Santa Ana that is my only way of doing DD.
I wish I could fly out there but my extra spending money is tied up in Behl stock LOL
That's good news Steve017
I can't wait for you to report your findings
Have a good night Board
Last post for the rest of today. Going to begin to enjoy the weekend.
I hope everyone can digest the prior posts with level headedness.
Tonight and Saturday night gives 2 nights to think about it. I do not think this is the straw that broke the camels back. I had several weeks to think it over. I think by Sunday we will all have had time to argue the posts here.
That is why I did not post this during the week especially during the trading day. By Monday these posts may not even be an issue .
Who Knows.
Have a good night
BG over
Your right
This goes on in any type of new company. It CAN be fixed, it is an easy fix.
Like you said Behl will just have to convince the customers that we are ironing out the small things
If we can price in the mistakes
Before things get out of hand and everyones expectations are lowered a little then the PPS will stabilize at a reasonable price.
One of the most successful
Small business owners I know used to say the same thing.
If your making mistakes your working..
I know they are working their tales off. Us shareholders just need to know things are going to be delayed.
I agree
I specifically heard on a Shareholder conference call last year July 2009. I was on it.
Fish said the turns were manufactured in China and alot of them. How much is invested in those and what if we cannot even use them ?
It would be nice if someone
could totally prove me wrong. When I added up the pieces
1.) Leaking water
2.) Flattened tubes
3.) Shortened tubes
4.) PR stating new turns being looked into
Then I had to conclude what I stated
# 4 of this week solidified what I had found out.
That is totally my guess
We need an expert in the mold industry.
If they are engineering new turns how long will it take from design, to mold, to mass production.. ?
Maybe it is only weeks away. I honestly dont know that answer
Partner I want us to succeed
But if my child is getting a "D" grade I want to know about that as much as if they are getting "A's"
I want everyone who are hard core longs to know what is going on. I appreciate the outstanding posts made by everyone else.
I dont want this stock to go down. We might as well get everything out in the open. I know they will have trial and errors.
I should point out that Goodall has the knowledge to MASTER a NEW turn. You can bet when he is done with it, it will be the best ever.
Woofer I have built homes
and worked construction all through high school and college. I am pretty knowledgeable mechanically.
This is what I think will solve the problem. The TURNS need to extend longer. If you can picture the 180 degree portion then I think if they add another 8 to 12 inches to the length and put a lip or two around the perimeter then the tubing would have more surface area to be clamped to on the turn and the lips would provide enough security for the clamps to grab onto. The problem is on the entrance side where the water enters the tube.