Register for free to join our community of investors and share your ideas. You will also get access to streaming quotes, interactive charts, trades, portfolio, live options flow and more tools.
Register for free to join our community of investors and share your ideas. You will also get access to streaming quotes, interactive charts, trades, portfolio, live options flow and more tools.
...and the violinists still played
perhaps "he's" found a new niche?
https://plus.google.com/116056005512452276199#116056005512452276199/posts
I believe this may be hitting so close to home for Mr. Bartoszek that he feels compelled to quiet any talk whatsoever about Dwight.
you're kidding me. mike? i'm completely amazed.
Bart has a long track record of hiding all kinds of things; it's those that never trusted him as a result of digging into his past that clearly anticipated what is currently happening.
On a brighter note...Who's going to groundbreaking in Berlin?
It's amazing to me that due diligence on the part of every single investor here didn't at least attempt to verify this information is accurate. The question then becomes; would they still have invested?
I feel bad for you Discreet Suffolk. Having watched you meet Bartozsek for the first time in person in Berlin's City Hall, I could tell you really were a believer in him. Having spoken to a number of people who were personally burned in Ellicotteville I had a far different impression of the guy that more matches what seems to be coming to light recently.
Good to see you're still hanging in there. Good luck to you.
Have ANY of you folks personally met Barty?
...perhaps if a grant were available that might be a smart move with nothing to lose.
The IPPS survival greatly enhances the well being of All north country residents, yes. Your recollection of 5-10 cents per month is only part of the inherited cost. $.45 per month to save tax revenue (assessed value) and hundreds of jobs helps everyone. And yes, Mr. Edwards and Edrest properties are not fans of LLEG or its CEO. Mr. Edwards recognizes that Cate St. along with the IPPS may soon be a success story that is absent LLEG and that LLEG may see what Edrest has seen in this company if the windfall happens but investor profit doesn't.
"Irondesk is much better suited to say if he is holding strong. WHAT IS TRUE is that EDREST INTERVENERS FOLDED THEIR HAND!!"
Being on the "grays" and "holding strong" seems contradictory, but if it makes you feel better, perhaps his average is way below the current state of affairs.
Locally, we've graduated from a "gray" sheet company to proven track records of the likes of Cate St. and the survival of the IPPS and all the "jobs, jobs jobs" they offer. What an outcome compared to the demise of the IPPS and the running of a plant by a stock "promoter" under investigation...so yes-Edrest folded their hand enjoying the summer on the waterfront while you guys attempt to prop each other up. I truly feel bad for you folks. Hopefully some of the windfall you all expect comes your way but I have my doubts having witnessed your CEO's performance and actions over the past six years. Never too late to change, however.
Haven't heard a word.
You really should to put this in perspective.
Clean Power's payment of 100K is within testimony not so easily dissected from a complicated docket and not hearsay. It was certainly one of the game changers and is well documented.
With all due respect mbartoszek, retirement is more the word and at 49 I'm enjoying the waterfront while you have turned from pink to "grey" and from hyping a stock to protecting what your mother may see on ihub? Ah yes, mbartoszek, I could tell the moment you showed up at Berlin's city hall and refused to look people in the eye that we were dealing with a shade of gray and now the SEC has confirmed there was, at a minimum, grave reason to feel that way. I feel bad for your fellow investors and glad for Berlin that Cate St. rescued Berlin from you.
I expect they are doing well having invested well over 20 million to date. I notice that the judge ruling on the appeal had worked for Laidlaw's law firm in the past (Needleman's office) and that the judge doesn't believe a conflict of interest exists.
isn't it interesting that a possible ceo could get away with simply stating the word "clueless"? Or can he? I haven't lost or made a dime off mbartoskek, but I can imagine that even those who have made money off of this ceo would expect more than what they receive in a one word reply that leaves them still... clueless.
not really. having witnessed him in person i can understand why many longs believe this poster is indeed him. But really...who cares? lleg needs to break free of mbartoszek at this stage to capture a new momentum forward. Hopefully this poster's line of thinking is simply that of an impostor, as he's losing credibility for the company on every syllable he posts.
It is truly strange if mbartoszek has finally come to the board to "defend" himself for fear his mother may read that particular post, yet has remained silent to the very investors who support him.Do you people still really believe that this impostor of mbartoszek is Mike himself? That would be a significant insult to this CEO in my opinion.
Do you mean "Cate ST." has priority?
Same procedure as the IPPS this past Friday, duplicating the same appeal to the Supreme Court to cover grey areas in procedural law. This stock is beginning to remind me of the various stages of cancer. I don't think we've reached the kiss of death stage 4 cancer, and a lot will depend on how many "treatments" are given to the IPPS to begin with.
"the" pump occurred? we are referring to "the pump" over ten years correct? Or are you talking about "the pump" as if it occurred once?
Yawn...What's the latest in LLEG land?
i wouldn't disagree with any of your post. the issue here is that there are many many "grey" areas at a point where this absolutely needs to be black and white. Berlin MUST come to life for lleg to survive in the "grey" area. LLEG may very well do that, but I wouldn't put an investment behind that personally at the current time but that is only based on logic and there are many other powers at play here.
innocence speaks volumes and attorneys thrive on it... if an attorney "knows" innocence exists, an attorney would take an aggressive stand to protect its clients' interest which in this case would be adamantly denying wrong doing to protect the PPS. But... once in the greys, there are SO MANY GREY areas to consider isn't there?
so do it. sometime pulling the plug lets the water out and keeps it afloat. tomorrow is the 15th. if it doesn't happen (even tomorrow) do you REALLY think that a 23 million investment to date won't consummate a sale of some sort? Even having been in the opposition I can't see ANY LOGIC in that.
that was a good point. 48 hours is a long time in today's world if you want to make it worth while.
call and ask them if they run or own any plants and the answer will be "No".
Smart moves by an intelligent investor. gltu.
LLEG would NEVER do that to their investors now would they bearspread? ;)
the big question is why wouldn't a company use that ploy?
"So the problem for this project is who will step in willing to wait 1 yr."
In one word, this PPA's weasel clause; "unappealable"
It takes many months to acquire legislative change to save the day. Who would be willing to wait a year? PSNH. Who can pay a handsome price tag for the project to date? PSNH. Who wants to? PSNH. Just a hunch.
Selling into the market and surviving at it. Less debt after 20 years of survival with paid off debt service for some of them is my guess. These guys won't go away without significant reason. Staying power based on current situation is staggering.
Really? What have they been operating with now?
good luck with that thought. The IPPS are controlled by huge foreign corporations. They are in it for survival, money and will use this appeal strategy as their last defense, basically without cost at this point; they have the appeal submitted already and can wait out the process without spending money other than with paying attorneys to negotiate offerings at this point. Additionally they have NO PPA to protect.
This project had been in the making since 2006. You call that "in a hurry"???
Nah, Not at this time. I would have attempted something like that many years ago when I unearthed some vendors and mortgage holders left unpaid by Laidlaw in Ellicottville as the gravity of those impacted outside of investors at that time seemed to be glaringly significant and the significance of that to LLEG was that the stock wasn't going anywhere at that time. There was even a grant given to Laidlaw from New York to rebuild that plant for a million bucks after Laidlaw went into receivership and came out with one of the same players (some guy by the name of Mike Bartoszek) buying back into the Ellicottville property. I still have the documented conversations with the previous owner of the Ellicottville mill (Northrup) who settled for $25,000 on a 1.2 million note according to him and a few vendors that connected with me along the way with statements of hundreds of thousands owed. Then to see that Laidlaw had managed to form a new company and obtain a million dollar grant (of which they only were allowed to use just over 100K) really irritated these note holder and vendors. And it enlightened me to a certain significant ability Mike Bartoszek has demonstrated statistically going forward. Also have the docs on the million dollar grant and what was actually allocated. It appears that just over $100 K was allocated by the state of New York, but then the funding stopped probably because that plant was not moving forward. Perhaps the town of Ellicottville has given the SEC a heads up on this activity; it would make sense for the SEC to listen to how lleg sent a town into an uproar over some of these events.
seems to be quite accurate. this stock has finally met its match and then some with the SEC.