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Golfer, same old same old for you and others who can not accept responnsibilty for your own bad investing choices. It does get stale after a while.
I am still optimistically looking forward to what is to come for AIPN as the best is yet to come!!
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=52598
By: carefulinvestor
14 Aug 2002, 05:06 PM EDT Msg. 52366 of 52597
(This msg. is a reply to 52363 by soup_nazi1.)
soupSPAMster: And here is my answer ( for which glplan sent a very nice thank you note via the private message system at http://www.investingdd.com )...
glplan: Thanks for the questions, as they are good (well thought out) questions.
Of course nobody (except God) knows how all this will play out, but I can see at least two very favorable situations developing due to what Doc said and in regard to your questions.
1. AIPN announces a "FIVE YEAR" (S-1) refinery contract with a "MAJOR OIL COMPANY" (S-1, sniper says its with TotalFinaElf, the world's fourth largest oil company, see http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=51271 -- I believe Doc concurs, but I don't have the post at hand, maybe Doc wouldn't mind weighing in on this again?).
The debbers hold back and AIPN rises to between .20 (400% above the present level) and $1.00+ (2000%+ above the present level).
In these price ranges many (including myself) will be able to take considerable profits (now) and not have to even think about the long term consequences to AIPN (if we do not want to) -- though I could still take good profits and be left with a large amount of shares still in my pocket, which is what I will likely do (to capitalize on the KAZ HITS that I think are still to some!).
2. AIPN announces a "FIVE YEAR" (S-1) refinery contract with a "MAJOR OIL COMPANY" (S-1) and shortly thereafter takes out the debbers (as noted in a recent PR, see below) -- on whatever basis they are able to arrange.
This not only helps in the short term (for profit takers), but makes it even better for the long term holders!
Thus those who have already taken profits win and those who hold for the long term are likely to win even more (and may see 2,000% to 10,000%+ increases from present levels, especially if the Kazakhstan concession come into play soon, which seems likely given all the speculation about Mr. Knight traveling to Kaz. and the way the world situation is developing -- and we already have a long term refinery contract and no more future dilution at that time).
However, as I am sure you can see, all this hinges, at the present time, on the announcement of the MAJOR REFINERY CONTRACT that is expected at any time. This is the crucial first step.
When this happens I believe AIPN will have secured its future for at least the next five years and even more importantly:
THEY WILL HAVE BOUGHT THEMSELVES ALL THE TIME THEY NEED FOR MEGA-HITS on 1551 and 953!
Others may not be able to see it, but I still think there is a very good chance that AIPN will see the $2.00/share to $10/share range (http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=31450) at some point in the future.
It will take, however, (as one notable poster put it),
"one of the best turnarounds in history!"
FWIW & IMO
Golfer, you could just as well be deceiving people and causing them to lose money, no matter how much "you feel there pain" , if the present information in the SEC documents about AIPN is true and is about to lead to a major run. So why don't youu stop it already as if you are not soup-nazi of rb you are sure starting to sound like him!
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=52445
By: carefulinvestor
15 Aug 2002, 02:00 PM EDT Msg. 52445 of 52594
(This msg. is a reply to 52420 by chikuduk.)
*** Five year refinery deal with major for AIPN (S-1) ***
"We are engaged in negotiations for a
transaction that would put our
entire refining and asphalt facility in Lake Charles to work on a
long-term basis. The terms of this transaction have been agreed to (PAST TENSE!!!)
and implementation is contingent upon securitization of crude oil
purchase contracts and financing to support our purchase of crude oil
and asphalt feedstocks. Our management believes the anticipated cash
flows from this transaction are sufficient to support all of our
overhead and domestic operations during the transaction's five-year
term. It should also enhance our ability to refinance our existing
debt..."
(From the most recent S-1, emphases added)
Not to mention buying AIPN all the time they need the sign the mega-deals on 1551 and 953 -- with the debbers likely eliminated prior to these material events!!!
What's coming for AIPN:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=52366
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=52369
FWIW & IMO
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
This is interesting
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=52585
By: carefulinvestor
16 Aug 2002, 12:27 PM EDT Msg. 52585 of 52591
(This msg. is a reply to 52578 by clamdestiny.)
clamdestiny: Thanks for the answer. There are a lot of very encouraging "rumors" floating around at the moment. It looks as if AIPN may be within days of a great turn-a-round and a large very large spike in price -- if even a just one or two of these "rumors" are true!
All the best to HONEST AIPN longs!
BTW, BF, I even hope you are on the AIPN express when it starts to leave the station. Though you are skeptical about future success for AIPN (and you seem to hate management), I've seen from your posts that you do (at times) seem to hope (and even pray) for good for those who are invested in AIPN.
I also hope the turn-a-round in your family's life continues!
FWIW & IMO
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By: clamdestiny
16 Aug 2002, 11:53 AM EDT Msg. 52578 of 52582
(Msg. is a reply to 52569 by carefulinvestor.)
I was mistaken...
The refinery is Lake Charles. I've owned this stock for years. If I would have sold at or near the top, I'd be a rich man. The source has been good, but, as always with this company, timing has been way off the mark. This time, however, it seems that the activity for conventional financing is authentic and coming very soon. Also, I read the posting/quote for the convertible debt holders and I am led to believe that that, too, is the plan. Hold them off so that we can get to a more respectable share price and either allow them to convert..or, perhaps,pay them. Time will tell.
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=50578 (emphases added)
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By: chikuduk $$$$
16 Aug 2002, 08:00 AM EDT Msg. 52533 of 52573
$9.5 Million dollar loan
Have a good weekend........
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
From: http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=52533 (emphases added)
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Sniper also writes:
"The impending loan is also fact BTW - BUT THAT IS RUMOR - and neither Sniper nor his alter ego SYBIL speculates on rumors! It does make for good entertainment though doesn't it!"
Excerpted from: http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=52547 (emphases added)
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(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
Golfer, this says it well,
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=52228
By: carefulinvestor
13 Aug 2002, 01:47 PM EDT Msg. 52228 of 52249
(This msg. is a reply to 52222 by carefulinvestor.)
More confirmation that Sniper was right!
1. "The terms of this transaction have been agreed to
and implementation is contingent upon securitization of crude oil
purchase contracts and financing to support our purchase of crude oil
and asphalt feedstocks"
2. Our management believes the anticipated cash
flows from this transaction are sufficient to support all of our
overhead and domestic operations during the transaction's five-year
term.
"In June 2002, we sold $1.9 million principal amount of our 12%
bridge notes due March 18, 2003 to GCA for a purchase price of $1.9
million and a warrant to purchase 3.6 million shares of our common
stock at $0.04 per share. We will use the net proceeds of
approximately $1.6 million to support our working capital needs. We
are engaged in negotiations for a transaction that would put our
entire refining and asphalt facility in Lake Charles to work on a
long-term basis. The terms of this transaction have been agreed to
and implementation is contingent upon securitization of crude oil
purchase contracts and financing to support our purchase of crude oil
and asphalt feedstocks. Our management believes the anticipated cash
flows from this transaction are sufficient to support all of our
overhead and domestic operations during the transaction's five-year
term. It should also enhance our ability to refinance our existing
debt, although there is no certainty this will be the case. If we are
unable to secure adequate financing to consummate this transaction,
we may need to curtail our operations."
Doc found this one (http://www.investingdd.com -- AIPN board).
Compare with:
By: carefulinvestor
26 Jul 2002, 11:00 AM EDT Msg. 51271 of 52226
(This msg. is a reply to 51244 by carefulinvestor.)
INFO the BASHERS don't want YOU to SEE:
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Sniper writes:
Listen close BF - Sniper does not care whether you believe him or not. I have stated how and when I got information - I have not nor will I give you the source - period! However, the following are facts (believe them or don't-your choice):
1. The deal has been signed by both parties!
2. There are "performance criteria" in the contracts prior to announcement.
3. Total is the partner!
4. This is a multi-year, multi-product, multi-area deal!
5. Feedstock is on its way to the LC refinery!
I could give you more "facts" - but chew on those awhile! BTW - my information comes from the industry...
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=50230 (emphases added)
BTW, all this was again confirmed by sniper yesterday. See:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=51123
Another interesting quote from sniper:
"I have been in the offices of AIPN (all of them), including your oftmentioned "map room"! I have had discussions with all of the executives past and present (excluding Knight), since 1998. And I have been privy to conversations re potential suitors."
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=44954
FWIW & IMO
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
Golfer, I don't think anyone has to apologize for an opinion in this case. We just disagree and we will have to waiit to find out who is right. You have even said that you hope that I am right and that shows me that you are hoping for something good and that is enough for me. I may also wait for a long time to see what happens to AIPN because I think the payoffs could be very high. One big deal would be enough. I think we could see 2 or 3 big deals if enough time passes. Have you seen this post?
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=51886
By: fbla_man
07 Aug 2002, 11:43 AM EDT Msg. 51886 of 51962
Dodge Report, from Doc's Site (Per Doc)
"Dr.Faris's contract ran out on July 31st and no extension is planned.They are spending much more time at the refinery preparing feedstock to bring up to spec.He was not sure whether individuals have been called back yet but will check on and yes they very well may have something THIS week.ST.Marks discision continue's to work its course through the courts and they remain confident there is no Liability on their part.Knight hopes to travel to Kaz in the next couple weeks to get directly in front of interested parties in regards to Licences 953 & 1551.
Several stratigies have been mapped out with contract partner one of which would include partner supplying crude on a regular basis that would have less effect on market changes in pricing.
Doc"
Golfer, I don't agree with you at all. There are many people who still believe AIPN will make large moves and you can see this because there are no sellers. And the low was .031 and we have recently seen it at .06 or above, though none of jibberish you are talking matters anyway. I say AIPN is going up and I am more optimistic than ever. You are talking like the rb bashers and say the stock has no chance. the only thing that will settle this is waiting to see what happens. I am sticking with my opinion and you will probably stick with yours. So we will see what happens in the future. I remain very optimistic and am looking forward to watching what happens.
Gofer, you are talking sillyness, iin everything you are writing. You have convinced me of nothing. As I've said I am more optimistic now than I have ever been before.It also seems others are becoming more optimistic like one persom wrote on the rb discussion the price of AIPN is now up close to 100% from its lows that were not long ago. if you will look at my previous post you will see that sniper says the contract is already signed and at http://www.investingdd.com
jim knight is getting ready to travel to Kazaksatn. Of course you can believe whatever you want but I am still thinking this stock will turn out to be a very good investment. And we are now even closer to the coming big announcments than when you posted your last reply.
Golfer, one day closer ever day until AIPN gets 1 2 or 3 big deals ...
You still have not answered the question of which is better DOW up 2.2% or AIPN 14.6%
A little reminder that I've put on this list for you before...
Posted by: Begesh
In reply to: Begesh who wrote msg# 93 Date:7/27/2002 10:00:42 AM
Post #of 101
Info rb bashers don't want you to see:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=51271
By: carefulinvestor
26 Jul 2002, 11:00 AM EDT Msg. 51271 of 51331
(This msg. is a reply to 51244 by carefulinvestor.)
INFO the BASHERS don't want YOU to SEE:
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Sniper writes:
Listen close BF - Sniper does not care whether you believe him or not. I have stated how and when I got information - I have not nor will I give you the source - period! However, the following are facts (believe them or don't-your choice):
1. The deal has been signed by both parties!
2. There are "performance criteria" in the contracts prior to announcement.
3. Total is the partner!
4. This is a multi-year, multi-product, multi-area deal!
5. Feedstock is on its way to the LC refinery!
I could give you more "facts" - but chew on those awhile! BTW - my information comes from the industry...
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=50230 (emphases added)
BTW, all this was again confirmed by sniper yesterday. See:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=51123
Another interesting quote from sniper:
"I have been in the offices of AIPN (all of them), including your oftmentioned "map room"! I have had discussions with all of the executives past and present (excluding Knight), since 1998. And I have been privy to conversations re potential suitors."
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=44954
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
Golfer, Dow was up 2.20% today and AIPN was up 14.6%!
Which do you think is better?
And when AIPN starts to roar you will find nothing to compare it with.
Have you seen the latest info from dodge and knight at http://www.investingdd.com
It should not be long now...
More positive than ever as we are closer than ever to the deals being made public.
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=51824
By: carefulinvestor
05 Aug 2002, 01:05 PM EDT Msg. 51824 of 51838
(This msg. is a reply to 51820 by Jeanne6510.)
Jeanne: This will be a good time to watch if the upcoming refinery news vindicates the position set forth by Doc, or that set forth by the bashers (who have been posting the same negative drivel for years).
If news comes regarding the refinery, Doc will be seen to be reliable (though sometimes a little off on the timing); if NO news comes on the refinery, then the bashers will have been more accurate.
BTW, if, you look as the ask line-up, on level two, it suggests many others also see good news coming soon (especially given our recent lows).
Most asks are about 100% to 200% above AIPN's lows.
And that is just in anticipation of the news to come, when it hits how high will it go?
More recent news to consider:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=48463
Good times coming for AIPN!
FWIW & IMO
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
Don't worry Golfer I still expect good news soon.
I amm willing to wait if that is necessary.
It seems most of the dd of value is at http://www.investingdd.com
FWIW & IMO
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=51816
By: carefulinvestor
05 Aug 2002, 11:14 AM EDT Msg. 51816 of 51834
Don't forget:
By: carefulinvestor
26 Jul 2002, 11:00 AM EDT Msg. 51271 of 51815
(This msg. is a reply to 51244 by carefulinvestor.)
INFO the BASHERS don't want YOU to SEE:
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Sniper writes:
Listen close BF - Sniper does not care whether you believe him or not. I have stated how and when I got information - I have not nor will I give you the source - period! However, the following are facts (believe them or don't-your choice):
1. The deal has been signed by both parties!
2. There are "performance criteria" in the contracts prior to announcement.
3. Total is the partner!
4. This is a multi-year, multi-product, multi-area deal!
5. Feedstock is on its way to the LC refinery!
I could give you more "facts" - but chew on those awhile! BTW - my information comes from the industry...
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=50230 (emphases added)
BTW, all this was again confirmed by sniper yesterday. See:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=51123
Another interesting quote from sniper:
"I have been in the offices of AIPN (all of them), including your oftmentioned "map room"! I have had discussions with all of the executives past and present (excluding Knight), since 1998. And I have been privy to conversations re potential suitors."
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=44954
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
Info rb bashers don't want you to see:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=51271
By: carefulinvestor
26 Jul 2002, 11:00 AM EDT Msg. 51271 of 51331
(This msg. is a reply to 51244 by carefulinvestor.)
INFO the BASHERS don't want YOU to SEE:
---
Sniper writes:
Listen close BF - Sniper does not care whether you believe him or not. I have stated how and when I got information - I have not nor will I give you the source - period! However, the following are facts (believe them or don't-your choice):
1. The deal has been signed by both parties!
2. There are "performance criteria" in the contracts prior to announcement.
3. Total is the partner!
4. This is a multi-year, multi-product, multi-area deal!
5. Feedstock is on its way to the LC refinery!
I could give you more "facts" - but chew on those awhile! BTW - my information comes from the industry...
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=50230 (emphases added)
BTW, all this was again confirmed by sniper yesterday. See:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=51123
Another interesting quote from sniper:
"I have been in the offices of AIPN (all of them), including your oftmentioned "map room"! I have had discussions with all of the executives past and present (excluding Knight), since 1998. And I have been privy to conversations re potential suitors."
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=44954
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
Jim Knight Update
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=51273
By: carefulinvestor
26 Jul 2002, 12:07 PM EDT Msg. 51273 of 51331
(This msg. is a reply to 51271 by carefulinvestor.)
***** JIM KNIGHT UPDATE *****
at: http://www.investingdd.com (AIPN board)
Thanks goes out to Jeanne for the idea she gave me as a result of her questions on this board yesterday.
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
Good news for AIPN about St. Marks Refinery
http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/tallahassee/news/local/3729626.htm
Posted on Thu, Jul. 25, 2002
Tallahassee briefs: Judge allows refinery lawsuit to stand
Circuit Judge N. Sanders Sauls on Wednesday denied the state's motion to dismiss a lawsuit filed by the St. Marks Refinery Inc., an attorney for the company said. The refinery sued earlier this year claiming that the Florida Department of Environmental Protection was illegally trying to hold it responsible for cleaning up petroleum contamination at the closed refinery site in St. Marks. The state last month launched a new cleanup of the site, which has widespread petroleum contamination dating back to at least the 1980s and high dioxin levels in some areas. The company, which bought the site in 1992, says the DEP in April illegally denied its use of a dock on the St. Marks River. The company would use the dock to reopen the site to distribute asphalt. DEP officials said they were denying the lease to focus the company's attention on the cleanup. The department will have 21 days to respond to the lawsuit once Sauls issues his ruling, said Gary Early, an attorney for the refinery. A DEP attorney who is handling the case could not be reached for comment.
There are some comments about this at http://www.investingdd.com
Golfer, since you are not able to get your facts straight, I don't see any reason to listen to the rest of what you say. You are likely just as wrong about everything else as you are about the prices.
AIPN has hit intraday lows of .031 and highs of .085 recently. I watched it for myself as it happened.
You say AIPN is going down, I say it is going up.
We will see who is correct in the future.
Golfer, you don't follow this stock very carefully, do you? AIPN recently ran from .031 to about .085.
And large deals take a long time to happen some times, but as I have said before, I am very optimistic at this point.
See the DD at http://www.investingdd.com if you would like to know more.
Golfer, I can sum up my present thoughts on AIPN in the following words:
I am more optimistic about what is about to happen at AIPN than I have ever been at any time in the past!
Your comments also seem to indicate that you missed the recent 150%+ run we saw. If you were on the ball you could have made 150%+ on AIPN during this run.
In my opinion there are much bigger runs to come. Maybe these runs will start very soon. I thnik that these runs will also last.
If you have extra time take a look at the best place for AIPN dicussion at http://www.investingdd.com
Snipers words also seem truthful to me,, which I posted in post 85
Posted by: Begesh
In reply to: None Date:7/12/2002 2:15:59 PM
Post #of 86
Sniper's TOTAL & REF deal from rb
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=50230
Listen close BF - Sniper does not care whether you believe him or not. I have stated how and when I got information - I have not nor will I give you the source - period! However, the following are facts (believe them or don't-your choice):
1. The deal has been signed by both parties!
2. There are "performance criteria" in the contracts prior to announcement.
3. Total is the partner!
4. This is a multi-year, multi-product, multi-area deal!
5. Feedstock is on its way to the LC refinery!
I could give you more "facts" - but chew on those awhile! BTW - my information comes from the industry not from the folks you named! If I told you I had lunch with JK, would that make a difference? Would you then believe what I say? How about if I had lunch with someone who had lunch with JK? Gets kinda ridiculous doesn't it!
Sniper's TOTAL & REF deal from rb
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=50230
Listen close BF - Sniper does not care whether you believe him or not. I have stated how and when I got information - I have not nor will I give you the source - period! However, the following are facts (believe them or don't-your choice):
1. The deal has been signed by both parties!
2. There are "performance criteria" in the contracts prior to announcement.
3. Total is the partner!
4. This is a multi-year, multi-product, multi-area deal!
5. Feedstock is on its way to the LC refinery!
I could give you more "facts" - but chew on those awhile! BTW - my information comes from the industry not from the folks you named! If I told you I had lunch with JK, would that make a difference? Would you then believe what I say? How about if I had lunch with someone who had lunch with JK? Gets kinda ridiculous doesn't it!
AIPN PARTY from rb
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=50119
By: spinoza461 $$$$
08 Jul 2002, 09:50 PM EDT Msg. 50119 of 50151
IT'S TIME FOR AN AIPN PARTY.....
FOR ALL REAL INVESTORS......!
We deserve it!
Here's my plan.
At exactly 8:00 P.M. (Central time) all REAL INVESTORS who wish to participate ......will lift a glass of their favorite beverage in a coast-to-coast toast to ourselves.
What will we be celebrating ......you might ask?
Well now......
A fantastic PR on a refinery deal with a major that moves PPS to somewhere between 25 cents and 50 cents within a matter of hours would be nice.
A second PR announcing conventional financing to take out the debs, that moves PPS to over a dollar ......would be even better.
A third PR announcing a JV on 1551, that moves PPS to over three dollars without looking back......would be sweet indeed!
BUT......
What if none of the above occurs by 6-10-02 at 8:00 P.M.?
What's wrong with ......JUST PLAIN CELEBRATING OURSELVES?
When I think of the fun that I've had playing on this board over the last couple of years......
When I think of all the fine people I've had the opportunity meet and to chat and joke with by phone......
When I think of all the times that AIPN has tantalized me and my friends with a peek at turning a penny into a pound......
When I think of all of the above and more ......I simply do not know how to regret my folly ......if folly AIPN turns out to be.
SO I SAY......
As long as this speculative little stock still has a breath of life left in it ......
WHY NOT ENJOY THE MOMENT AND ANY FUTURE POSSIBILITY THAT STILL EXISTS!
A very wise man once told me "You can cry in your beer or drink it."
He always drank his.
I always drink mine.
The party is at 8:00 P.M. on Wednesday.
R.S.V.P.
AIPN profiled in well known investment newsletter
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=49661
By: carefulinvestor
01 Jul 2002, 09:55 PM EDT Msg. 49661 of 49676
(This msg. is a reply to 49638 by Zoro99.)
Thanks Zoro99 ("AIPN is profiled in the July issue of Bill Mathews' Cheap Investor newsletter")!
I already have my free issue on the way. I asked specifically for the July issue which features AIPN, as you noted.
It wouldn't surprise me if his AIPN recommendation turns out to be one of his biggest winners ever -- if not THE BIGGEST WINNER EVER!!! And he has picked a number of beauties in the past (see below)!
This looks like something that I will almost certainly subscribe to after checking out the first sample issue.
Here is some more information on the web about Bill Mathews' Cheap Investor newsletter (which may be of interest to AINPites, as he has just featured AIPN!):
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AMS stock was picked to double over the next 12 months, by Bill Mathews who reports that for more than 15 years he has utilized the principles from his book "Winning Big with Bargain Stocks" to write one of the best performing financial newsletters since 1981. His newsletter entitled The Cheap Investor specializes in quality stocks under $5 per share. During this time, 20 of the stocks recommended in his newsletter increased in value from the recommended price over 1,000% with 11 of them increasing over 2,000%.
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GrandDaddy HUGE WINNER of Winners for Bill Mathews, Analysts & Publisher of The CHEAP Investor, is (IDPH), originally Recommended in 1993 at $5.00, drifted down to $2 per share by 1995. Bill commented that the Fundamentals had not changed in (IDPH) as the company had enough CASH to survive until they could bring their products to Market. The Cheap Investor again Recommended (IDPH) on the Hot Line at $2.00 in 1995. In 1999 (IDPH) hit $175.00 per share as a New High.
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(IDPH) $5.00---------$175.00 & (PPD) $1.32------------- $45.00
(WGO) $8.25------------$28.75 & (TOTL) $.66--------------$4.18
(RWIN) $3.00------------$11.75 & (ARW) $3.75-------------$60.00
(DC) $1.13----------------$10.50 & (BNHN) $.75-------------$16.18
(JOB) $1.81--------------$16.00 & (AW) $1.88---------------$30.00
(NCP) $2.75-------------$18.00 & (QDEK) $2.00-------------$39.50
(CADE) $.63---------------$4.00 & (ALW) $5.13---------------$30.00
Datametrics $1.13-------------$11.50 & Vasco (First Med) $.30--------$1.75
Kimmons Envir. $1.50---------$6.50 & Access Healthcare $3.63------$65.50
Envirodyne Indu. $2.81------$80.00 & BioSource Inc. $1.94---------$6.25
Horizon Health Care $1.63-----$29.00
(LIPO) $7.00 again at $5.00 ---------------$48.25 two years later.
Republic Waste $3.13---------------------$69.00 split 2 for 1
(VRC) $5.38-----$36.50 & (GLM) $1.63---$21.00
(TAM) $4.38------ $18.50 & (LB) $1.13----------$7.00
(BIOI) $1.94----------$13.25 & (BCGI) $4.00--------$19.00
(AZTC) $$3.63-------$19.88 & (GEHI) $3.00--------$25.00
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(WGO) 3/97 & (AW) 4/97 Are in the list above.
( INT) Rec. 7/97---$3.63--$20.00 & (HAUP) Rec. 11/97---$2.88---$38.12
(DEPC) Rec. 10/97---$1.12----$5.25 Bought Out
(ALMI) Rec. 2/98---$1.09---$8.00 & (ASFT) Rec. 2/98-- $2.12----$5.56
(SECM) Rec. 2/98--$1.75----$5.12 & (INFR) Rec. 3/98--$3.56-----$8.25
(CACH) Rec. 3/98--$3.25--$11.00& (KTCC) Rec. 4/98--$3.31------$7.31
(APLX) Rec. 9/98----$2.69--$26.69 & (BEAM) Rec. 11/98 $4.00----$29.38
(AVGN) Rec. 6/97---$3.75---$84.88 & (HAUP) 7/97 ----$2.88-----$51.00
(MDIX) 1/99---$.25---$5.75
(DEPC) Rec. 10/97-- $1.12--$5.25 & (AGY) Rec. 1/99---$2.25---$17.44
(ASPT) Rec. April 1999--- $6.44---$69.94 & (RPIX) Rec. 6/99---$.20--$.74
(AINN) Rec. @ $3.75 hit $13.06 (DSCO) Rec. @ $1.18 hit $8.38 (IMAT) Rec. @ $1.06 hit $4.75 (MAGN) Rec. @$1.16 hit $10.00 (FONX) Rec. @ $.25 hit $2.00
(MCTL) Rec. @ $.25 hit $1.50 & (WINR) Rec. @ $1.16 hit $6$.56 hit $5.38
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By: Zoro99
01 Jul 2002, 08:26 PM EDT Msg. 49638 of 49650
AIPN is profiled in the July issue of Bill Mathews' Cheap Investor newsletter which I received today. Mathews is perhaps the very best analyst of low priced stocks in the business with over 20 years of experience and a well documented record of success. He makes a good case for AIPN being an undervalued bargain in his current write-up. Anyone who is not a Cheap Investor subscriber can request one free sample issue by contacting Mathews and Associates, 2549 West Golf Road, Suite 350, Hoffman Estates, IL 60194. Phone (847) 697-5666.
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(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
St. Marks news out today
St. Marks Refinery Reaches Agreement for Disposition of Tankage At St Marks, Florida Facility
NEW YORK, Jul 1, 2002 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- St. Marks Refinery, Inc. (SMR),
announced today it has reached an agreement with the Florida Department of
Environmental Protection (DEP) regarding the disposition of petroleum product
tankage at its facility in St. Marks, Florida.
The SMR facility is undergoing the first steps of remediation by the DEP for the
clean up of petroleum contamination at the site. SMR has been presented with
documentation recently made available by the DEP that the site contains levels
of dioxin contamination here-to-fore unknown by either the DEP or SMR. SMR has
relinquished its rights to storage tanks and equipment in the area identified by
the DEP as containing dioxin above regulatory levels. This decision will allow
the DEP to continue remediation activities unimpeded.
SMR maintains its commitment to act in good faith to assist the DEP in the clean
up of the site. SMR has no knowledge what so ever of activities at the facility
that could have caused dioxin contamination, and can only surmise that such
conditions predated SMR's acquisition of the facility in late 1992. SMR received
a specific waiver of liability from the DEP for preexisting conditions prior to
its acquisition, and is currently seeking confirmation of the validity of that
waiver in Wakulla County, Florida circuit court.
SMR continues to work with the DEP in order to maintain the portion of the
facility to be utilized for asphalt distribution. The storage tankage associated
with the asphalt distribution area is exempt from state regulation, and is in
compliance with applicable United States Coast Guard regulations.
It is estimated that thorough contamination testing by the DEP of the asphalt
distribution area shall commence by no later than mid-July. A final
determination regarding the status for asphalt distribution activities at the
facility shall be made upon receipt of DEP documentation by SMR of the test
results of that area.
SMR is a wholly owned subsidiary of American International Petroleum Corporation
(OTC BB: AIPN).
Statements herein may be identified as forward-looking for purposes of safe
harbor provisions under Section 21E of the Securities and Exchange Commission
Act of 1934. Such statements relating to American International Petroleum
Corporation, and SMR's, business, including those specific to this press
release, such as efforts to utilize SMR for asphalt distribution; receipt of
further DEP test results favorable to asphalt activities; and all future
business of the Company, including SMR, are subject to risks and uncertainties
that could cause actual results to differ materially from those statements and
other risks and factors, identified in the Company's SEC filings.
CONTACT: St. Marks Refinery
Michael Dodge, 212/688-3333
URL: http://www.businesswire.com
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KEYWORD: NEW YORK FLORIDA
INDUSTRY KEYWORD: ENERGY
OIL/GAS
SOURCE:
St.
Marks
Refinery
Post of the week from rb
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=49273
By: carefulinvestor
28 Jun 2002, 11:33 AM EDT Msg. 49273 of 49285
(This msg. is a reply to 49238 by spinoza461.)
**** REALIST POST OF THE WEEK! ****
By: spinoza461 $$$$
28 Jun 2002, 12:51 AM EDT Msg. 49238 of 49272
Why am I still in a PARTY mood......?
Let's see now.
On 6-19-02 AIPN appeared to be falling off the table at three and a fraction.
Yesterday we closed at 7 1/2 and today some REAL INVESTORS had a chance to sell at 8 to 81/2.
We subsequently closed at 7 after a number of trades at 6 1/2.
AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE......?
Is AIPN up nearly 100% over a week ago on no REAL NEWS ......Or has Anderson Consulting taken over my computer with the help of Rod Serling?
I do not own any "REAL STOCK" that can sustain even a 10% to 15% increase in PPS without some profit taking.
AND I CERTAINLY OWN NO STOCK THAT HAS INCREASED IN PPS NEARLY 100% OVER THE LAST WEEK.
Tell me, my fellow REAL INVESTORS......
How many stocks do any of you own (other than AIPN) that have performed as well lately?
STOP ME IF I AM IN ERROR HERE......
But it seems to me that our longtime and tiresome BASHERS failed to "PREDICT" the events of this last week.......despite their usual numerous posts.
Instead they have stumbled all over each other for days trying to regroup as AIPN moved upward and now they are once again pretending that this last week never happened.
For any REAL INVESTORS waiting for NEWS......
I HAVE SOME REAL NEWS FOR YOU!
This last week did "HAPPEN"!
PPS OF AIPN HAS NEARLY DOUBLED IN THE LAST SEVEN DAYS!
PPS may go to 2 cents per share or 2 dollars per share in the very near future......
BUT......
I can assure one and all REAL INVESTORS......
THERE IS NOT ONE SINGLE POSTER OR LURKER ON THIS OR ANY OTHER AIPN BOARD WHO KNOWS WITH CERTAINTY WHICH WAY THE AIPN WIND WILL BLOW TOMORROW OR ON ANY MARKET DAY TO COME.
My advice ......FWIW!
If you "Can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen"!
Personally......
I have no intention of leaving the kitchen until I know for certain what JK is capable of ......WIN, LOSE OR DRAW......!!!!!
Cards anyone......?
(Emphases added)
From: http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=49238
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
From AIPN IR dept. Dodge today
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=49017
By: carefulinvestor
26 Jun 2002, 12:12 PM EDT Msg. 49017 of 49031
(This msg. is a reply to 48993 by spinoza461.)
Today's DODGE REPORT
at DOC$ AIPN board. See:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=47719
Look out for a veritable stampede of AIPN bulls in the coming days!
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=47118
VERY GOOD TIMES COMING FOR AIPN!
FWIW & IMO
Good news post from rb
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=48463
By: carefulinvestor
20 Jun 2002, 11:52 AM EDT Msg. 48463 of 48549
(This msg. is a reply to 48417 by carefulinvestor.)
GREAT NEWS TODAY for those who understand business and realize how close we are to what sniper optimistically termed:
"one of the best turnarounds in history!"
( http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=48364 , emphases added).
BTW, for those with the eyes to see (and even a modicum of kindness in the heart) it is evident that what some of the best posters here (Doc, Spin, Sniper, et al.) have been reporting all along is definitely IN THE WORKS.
Furthermore, as anyone who has been involved with business knows, it is impossible to know the exact timing for which deals will be struck and contracts signed.
This becomes even more of a guessing game as the deals become more complex and numbers involved larger. And when one of the deals involves a shipment of crude, as handstramp pointed out at DOC$ AIPN board ( http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=47719 ), many others factors need to be considered.
I think this PR also signals the fact that George Faris (GF) is on the w out and Jim Knight (JK) will be at the helm from now on.
From this news, and if all goes well, the following could (should?) all take place:
1. A multi-year, profitable, refinery contract
( http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=47411 , http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=47147 ).
2. Debbers eliminated (watch what happens to the pps at this point!).
3. A deal on 1551.
4. More drilling on 953.
Can you imagine what the price per share will be at (especially compared to the present pps) if drilling starts on 953 (which gave us a 533% increase last time, with nothing else happening), the refinery is running full out year round (with a contract with a major!), the debbers are gone (and can't hold the pps down, as now) and a good deal on 1551 has already been signed (hint: see http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=31450 ).
With that said, here is the news (below, with emphases added) for anyone who missed it.
If you can read between the lines (or pick up on the emphases) you still have time to make yourself a bundle of money on this stock.
The big hits are coming, it is only a matter of time now!!!
GOOD TIMES COMING FOR AIPN!
FWIW & IMO
P.S. Almost forgot, but it is very nice to see that AIPN has responded directly to shareholder requests for an update (again see DOC$ AIPN board for more information).
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(COMTEX) B: American International Petroleum Places $1.9 Million Convent
B: American International Petroleum Places $1.9 Million Conventional Debt
NEW YORK, Jun 20, 2002 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- American International Petroleum
Corporation (OTC BB: AIPN)), announced today that it has sold a nine-month $1.9
million 12% secured Bridge Note to GCA Strategic Investment Fund Limited
("GCA"), Hamilton, Bermuda.
The proceeds from the financing will be utilized for working capital purposes.
This will also allow the Company more time to work towards the completion of
ongoing negotiations to put its entire Lake Charles facility to work on a long
term basis, and to consummate a refinancing to replace its existing debt.
"We continue our efforts to complete a long-term transaction for our Lake
Charles facility, which includes both processing crude oil and manufacturing
asphalt," said Company President Jim Knight. "We have seen in the past that the
best way to maximize the profits of our Refining Division is to operate all the
units simultaneously. We are making progress towards achieving this goal and,
although we can't be certain at this point, we hope to complete a deal soon
transaction should provide the necessary cash flow and margins to enhance
our ability refinance our debt. That is the next step.". He also said that the
Company has informed its principal lenders that it intends to attempt to redeem
its existing debt as soon as practicable and that the lenders were receptive to
such a plan.
The Company continues to have discussions with potential partners regarding a
farm-out of some of our 100% working interest in License 1551, the Shagyrly gas
field in Kazakhstan. Any proceeds that may be derived from the possible sale or
farm-out of a portion of our oil and gas concessions in Kazakhstan will be
utilized to repay debt, fund the development of our License 1551 gas field and
the minimum work program at our License 953, and for general corporate uses. The
majority of the development funding for License 1551 is expected to be derived
form project financing.
American International Petroleum Corporation is a diversified petroleum company
which, through various wholly owned subsidiaries, is involved in oil and gas
exploration and development in the Republic of Kazakhstan, and in processing
crude oil, and in marketing and transporting a wide array of refined products in
the United States.
Statements herein may be identified as forward-looking for purposes of safe
harbor provisions under Section 21E of the Securities and Exchange Commission
Act of 1934. Such statements relating to the Company's business, including those
specific to this press release, including efforts to complete a long term
contract for Lake Charles; ability that such a deal will enable satisfactory
cash flow and margins to allow refinancing, or enable all units to operate
simultaneously; ability to redeem existing debt; or, consummate a farm-out
agreement for Kazakhstan Licenses; and all future business of the Company, are
subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ
materially from those statements and other risks and factors, identified in the
Company's SEC filings.
CONTACT: American International Petroleum Corporation
Michael Dodge, 212/688-3333
URL: http://www.businesswire.com
Today's News On The Net - Business Wire's full file on the Internet
with Hyperlinks to your home page.
Copyright (C) 2002 Business Wire. All rights reserved.
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KEYWORD: NEW YORK
INDUSTRY KEYWORD: ENERGY
OIL/GAS
UTILITIES
SOURCE:
American
International
Petroleum
Corporation
*** end of story ***
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
sniper from rb (bullish)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=48364
By: Sniper67 $$$$$
19 Jun 2002, 12:02 PM EDT Msg. 48364 of 48387
(This msg. is a reply to 48323 by lubtex61.)
LUBETEX:
I do not visit this board every day anymore so I apologize for the delay in responding. I do try to keep up with the pertinent "chatter" but only in the evening. Lately, however, there has not been much "pertinent chatter"!
Before I answer your question, let me respond to the "apocolypse" issue and reporting of same. First, I would applaud Soup in bringing the issue to the board! DD is hard to find on AIPN these days - it is all talked out! However, a cursory reading of these two documents should have left everyone with a healthy dose of skepticism! There was nothing to this lawsuit and it is not an ongoing issue with the company.
As to SEC filings, they are the best source of "real info" - yet a company is not by SEC Regs required to disclose everything that is going on - or might be going on! I am also amused by the fact that MD talks have, for the most part, been "the real source" of info re AIPN on this board for a long time - and now all of a sudden SEC docs have become the primary believable source!
Now for your question re BF's post:
REFINERY
1. There is no crude yet! But it is available in the marketplace.
2. The refinery is not operating yet!
3. The Partner has agreed to assist AIPN in securing crude plus other financial remedies - due to the crude shortage situation!
4. Management is working diligently to obtain crude.
5. Financing supposedly has been obtained.
6. The agreement will not be announced until crude is obtained.
KAZ LEASES
1. There are ongoing discussions re 1551, principally, and 953!
2. KAZ government has shown a desire lately to obtain pieces of deals involving all leases plus requirements to spend money in-country for infrastructure, local employment, etc. I could expound on this re the Hurricane/Nelson situation - other independents in KAZ - but you might want to go to the HHLF site and read for yourself.
3. AIPN will have to give up a substantial part of its ownership for JV funding but it should wind up with at least 35% (carried interest on production)! And that is still a good deal in by book!
MANAGEMENT
1. Denis Fitzpatrick moved to the Houston office two years ago! Don't get me started on that lad!
2. Both DF and BT can quote almost instantly the number of shares being converted - MD does not have this up to date info!
3. Unless precipitated by JK, AIPN will never consider a strategy or talks with shareholders re PPS. First they don't know how and second, they do not have the Kahunas! This is not my impression of JK however based on my research into his background.
We must continue to understand (and pound into our heads) that Mike Dodge is not a good source of information. I have stated so in the past. He is a glorified IR person who is not always in the loop and also tends to talk too much! Alluding to a fact without definite support is the same as lying in my book - and I have noted several instances of such happening with MD over the past year.
Info is not flowing from the company with the same ease as we enjoyed in the past. This can be a blessing and a curse! PPS does not concern me at this point! The only factor of concern to me is whether management can secure crude and get the refinery operational. This is a must do for cash flow purposes! The real value in AIPN still lies in the KAZ leases.
Best I can do at the moment LUBTEX! I am as frustrated as you, particularly with my insight to management and history. But I continue to remain optimistic that these lads can pull off what would probably be labeled as one of the best turnarounds in history!
However, it is still - EXECUTION! EXECUTION! EXECUTION! -that matters most! That and GF staying out of the way except for occasional counsel! Replacement of the BOD would help also!
JHMO of course!
I am gone for the day!
SNIPER
Even today one of the rb bashers who is probably long now is hyping ATOFINA / TOTAL FINA ELF
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=47956
By: soup_nazi1
15 Jun 2002, 07:30 AM EDT Msg. 47956 of 47963
Atofina-A reminder to hypsters should Atofina turn out to be the "suitor" for the "massive" refinery deal. No accolades please...Soup is the strong, silent, humble type person and prefers to maintain a low profile on the board.
The only thing that doesn't fit is Dodge telling a caller that AIPN has done business with the "suitor" in the past
By: soup_nazi1
29 Jan 2002, 03:31 PM EST Msg. 36253 of 47955
Soup speaks out! He's kept his readers on pins and needles
too long already.
If and when a contract with AIRI is finalized as rumored for more than 7 months when the new shipment of crude was "enroute" "almost there" "should be there today" (Jazoo/Dodge)and never arrived, the deal will be a working relationship with an entity beginning with the letter "A".
No, it's not Ashland.
and after clearing out any remaining backlog of asPHLat contracts, the refinery will concentrate on "light end" refinery production......
Save your praise for later....."per Dodge from previous hypster talks, it will change the way AIPN/AIRI does business" or words to that effect.
HonorableUnimpeachableSoup
Oh as SPAMSTER says....FYI, IMHO, etc etc
TOTAL FINA ELF and AIPN?
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=47411
By: carefulinvestor
11 Jun 2002, 11:59 AM EDT Msg. 47411 of 47955
(This msg. is a reply to 47410 by arcice.)
arcice: A number of posters on this and other lists (including even two of the bashers on RB) have named TotalFinaElf as the upcoming refinery partner.
Some sample examples include:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=47017
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=33282
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=33271
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=33224
The latest 10K (emphases added) also states:
"We are in the latter stages of discussions with a major oil company to finalize an agreement under which we would be provided unlimited amounts of asphalt to fulfill our outstanding contracts and backlog.
The recent 10Q also notes (on the refinery deal):
"...we are currently having discussions that could result in multi-year contracts..."
Maybe TOTAL (or whomever the "major oil company" is) wants AIPN's refinery for this (among other) reasons (10Q, emphases added):
"The facility is now gearing up to produce several new specialty products that are high margin
with potential significant growth possibilities."
These tidbits on the timing of the refinery announcement may also be of interest:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=47078
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=47082
BTW, if the refinery deal is with TOTAL (or even another "major oil company") it would not surprise me to see them become involved in some action regarding AIPN's Kaz. concessions in the future.
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=47331
Some ideas on where this all me be headed can also be found at:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=47118
For much more see the AIPN board at:
http://www.investingdd.com/
All the best to AIPN long -- our day is coming!!!
FWIW & IMO
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
Dodge update from rb
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=47711
By: carefulinvestor
13 Jun 2002, 07:14 PM EDT Msg. 47711 of 47711
DODGE UPDATE
from today at:
http://www.investingdd.com
(On the AIPN board).
And surprise, surprise, it is pretty much antithetical to the "Dodge" update that blindfool fabricated, oops, I mean posted.
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=47506
Good times coming for AIPN!!!
FWIW & IMO
"Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet."
- Aristotle
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
doc from rb
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=47491
By: docholidayco $$$$$
11 Jun 2002, 10:39 PM EDT Msg. 47491 of 47546
The Good News:
While the necessary arrangements are being made for payment on "New" shipment of crude,a very important adjustment has been made in terms of acceptable amount of crude in order to be compliant,under the terms,operational.It is my understanding "AIPC" and the "New" partner is willing to accept a much lower amount of crude than first required,in order to get the refinery contract in place.
Doc
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
spinoza from rb
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=47507
By: spinoza461 $$$$
12 Jun 2002, 12:28 AM EDT Msg. 47507 of 47546
BEEN THERE......DONE THAT......!!!!!
Like any other REAL INVESTOR ......I would have preferred that PPS held at @ 8 to 10 cents per share (or increased) while we wait to see if AIPN really could produce a long-term and lucrative contract with a major player. I'm talking a five year plus deal that would make the decent revenue from the short-lived SG contract look like Monopoly money.
Obviously......This has not happened.
Tonight AIPN investors must confront the seemingly harsh reality that shares of AIPN actually traded today at less than 4 cents per share and even at that price there was little volume.
We've all heard the rumors that GCA is strapped for money and is currently using AIPN as a pincushion in the dog-eat-dog world of debenture finance ......but assume for a moment that this rumor is not true and AIPN has drifted to a new low on its own lack of momentum and/or merit.
What does it all mean......?
Sorry ......But for me it means NOTHING!
Push the PANIC button if that is your temperament......
But ask yourself this......!
If a MASSIVE REFINERY CONTRACT is announced ......will it not move AIPN into the same ballpark we had all hoped for when AIPN was @ a dime a share?
Does it actually matter if in the last few moments before any such announcement ......AIPN is selling at a dime a share, a nickel a share or a penny a share?
THE DEAL (if it occurs) IS WORTH WHAT THE DEAL IS WORTH......Pure and simple!
PPS may stagger a bit rather than sprint ......but like water it will seek it's own level like a river responding to rain in the mountains hundreds of miles away from the delta.
On the other hand......If the MASSIVE REFINERY DEAL is just so much flummery ......
The handwriting may already be on the wall of an arroyo previously strewn with the bleached bones of prior investors......
Unless (Be still my AIPN heart) 1551 suddenly floods our seemingly cul-de-sac arroyo with anomalous animation.
SO THERE YOU HAVE IT!
The fact of the matter is that AIPN is just like 99.9% of all stocks on every exchange.
Lack of execution will cause it to flounder......!
Execution will cause it to flourish......despite PPS!
Am I the only REAL INVESTOR on this board who has ever had the pleasure of watching stocks mimic The Flight Of The Phoenix?
Who has not BEEN THERE......DONE THAT?
IMNHO......The PPS of AIPN tonight is as meaningless as the PPS of ORCL.
But what do I know?
Best of luck to all who deserve it!
carefulinvestor from rb
By: carefulinvestor
12 Jun 2002, 12:21 AM EDT Msg. 47506 of 47545
(This msg. is a reply to 47500 by docholidayco.)
Doc: You may be right, but AIPN has always been full of surprises and maybe the upcoming move in the pps (due to the refinery contract) will surprise everybody.
After all, if we do get a long term contract with a "major oil company" (10K) that has the refinery running full out year round (and maybe even leads to expansion) who knows how that will be perceived. Even a small move to just .36 gets you an 800% increase now!
Furthermore, if the 1551 gas deal really heats up right after the refinery announcement (which gives AIPN a solid core business), we may be off to the races once again (http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=46257).
The world situation is ripe for JK's picking with both Kaz. concessions (http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=47486). If JK is a good as rumored, we may see real action on both 1551 and 953 once the refinery deal is taken care of.
I am a patient man and I am still expecting great things from AIPN(http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=47435). I've seen this scenario run many times with other companies, and when the big PR's start popping out regularly things change "in the blink of an eye" (http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=47411).
And let's not forget what is likely to take place when the debbers are eliminated.
In any case, thanks again for the updates and your thoughts on this matter.
All the best to you Doc, and all other HONEST AIPN LONGS!
FWIW & IMO
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
sniper from rb
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=47473
By: Sniper67 $$$$$
11 Jun 2002, 09:25 PM EDT Msg. 47473 of 47545
(This msg. is a reply to 47452 by iblindfool.)
BF:
I do understand your pain and anger with this management team. But you give them too much credit! If anyone is being taken by GCA, it is GF and DF! I have absolutely no reason to think or believe that management is in bed with the debbers. They are simply inept!
There will be a ASHM! It was delayed, IMHO, to be able to report good news - and then move forward. Venezuela put a kink in those plans. Now the shortage of crude continues - but efforts are being made to obtain it - and I believe they will be successful. There is nothing management, i.e., Knight, can do under the current circumstances to stem the PPS decline - the debbers have us by our shorts!
I am staying the course - not just for the refinery or 1551 (which is being worked) - but for the turnaround being attempted by JK. Will he be successful? I do not know! But I do give him credit for trying - unlike GF, DF and BT!
I am underwater though probably not as deep as yourself. But at the current PPS, what options do we have? Hang in there my friend - I am quite optimistic that some good will come to us this year!
SNIPER
Golfer, you could not be more wrong, in my opinion, as time will tell. Have you seen the latest messages on AIPN at http://www.investingdd.com
Portions of good posts from RB:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=47118
By: spinoza461 $$$$
07 Jun 2002, 12:49 AM EDT Msg. 47118 of 47384
(This msg. is a reply to 47004 by iblindfool.)
It's late. I'm tired. I'll be brief.
What is the REAL value of Lake Charles (unencumbered) and running at capacity?
What is the REAL value of a multi-year contract that will consistently produce significantly more revenue per quarter over the next five (or more) years than the SG contract sustained for less than 3 quarters?
What is the REAL value (emotional and/or rational) of a contract with a REAL REAL REAL major ......as opposed to the likes of an SG ......just in the short term?
What is the REAL value of erasing ALL debenture influence with a controlled, orderly and timely financial plan?
Would that be worth two bits?
Might it be worth a buck?
And......most importantly.............................
Would any part of the above scenario be worth an ante of a few hundred dollars just to sit in the game and watch how the cards fall?
BTW......
......As you deny the probability of the above......
I have one other question!
What would be the REAL value of a near simultaneous 1551 deal with ZERO financial risk to AIPN?
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=47001
By: spinoza461 $$$$
06 Jun 2002, 12:40 AM EDT Msg. 47001 of 47384
Despite AIPN's recent track record ......IMNHO I truly believe that in the next few days/weeks AIPN will begin a treck down "The Road Not Traveled" in its recent history ......toward financial success at long last...
If, however, as I suspect......AIPN goes to a minimum of .25 per share OR MORE (Do I hear a dollar?) in June ......you would recoup your prior loss, get back your additional 3k and have the day-to day option of securing an actual profit at long last.
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=47147
By: carefulinvestor
07 Jun 2002, 10:45 AM EDT Msg. 47147 of 47384
(This msg. is a reply to 47078 by Sniper67.)
"We are in the latter stages of discussions with
a major oil company to finalize an agreement under which we would be provided unlimited amounts of asphalt to fulfill our outstanding contracts and backlog. We also have recently obtained a credit facility to provide us with the necessary capital to purchase the asphalt feedstocks necessary to service the backlog. At the end of March 2002, there was a backlog of asphalt sales orders of 40,000 tons valued at $6,000,000 compared to 70,000 tons valued at $11 million at the end of March last year."
Latest 10K (emphases added)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=47118
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=46959
By: docholidayco $$$$$
05 Jun 2002, 04:57 PM EDT Msg. 46959 of 47384
Fact:
AIPN has agreed to a new Refinery contract with a major oil company.
AIPN will develop their own feedstock by purchasing Crude for the refinery.
AIPN has recieved,as part of the agreement,a letter of credit for which will be used to secure the funds to pay for the crude.
AIPN will announce the refinery agreement,with the permission of the New partner,once the crude agreement is reached and the arrangement for payment is accepted.
NOW! Omegawoman!....go cry somewhere else!
DOC
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=46991
By: docholidayco $$$$$
05 Jun 2002, 11:11 PM EDT Msg. 46991 of 47384
FACT...
AIPN will announce a Muti-Year Refinery Contract with a Major Oil Company.
The Lakers will win game one.....
doc
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aipnshareholdersforum/message/9750
From: rmccri2182
Date: Sat Jun 8, 2002 2:10 pm
Subject: STOLL
From my sources Knight is not concerned about right now his concern
is long term. He says this deal is moving ahead very rapidly much
better than he expected. DEBBERS RIGHT NOW are just doing what they
have to do to compile with terms of loan agreements.
Golfer, yes, more optimistic than ever, as we are closer than ever to the refinery contract announcement and I rely on information not the stock price to make decisions. I remember hering that this refinery deal is a multiyear contract with a major and should have the refinery running all year around and that it should provide for an expansion of the refinery. I think someone wrote the refinery would be taken up to 40,000 barrels a day. I've also heard that because of this refinery deal the debenture holders will be paid off and the dilution stopped. It seems a temporary crude shortage is the only thing holding everything up at this point. While we wait the dilution continues to take the price down. This may be good for buyers, it does not look good for peopel who have already bought their stock. Here are some messages I have seen on raging bull about this and a link to a new site that has similar information and sometimes gives more details.
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=46527
By: LITALI1245 $$$
30 May 2002, 01:35 PM EDT Msg. 46527 of 46536
(This msg. is a reply to 46522 by drobjdm.)
DROB
Aside from this being true about the asphalt I truly believe that this shortage of crude is what is holding up the implementation of the refinery contract.
I've been talking to DODGE from time to time and found nothing new to post for the past month or so.Now I seem to be getting the vibes through my last conversation with Mike that as soon as the crude market loosens up the refinery contract will be implemented.--In MO it's a done deal that can happen any day any hour. FWIW--Lit
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=46491
By: Sniper67 $$$$$
29 May 2002, 06:35 PM EDT Msg. 46491 of 46537
(This msg. is a reply to 46486 by pwade0821.)
PWADE:
The short answer is - no crude! AIPN has to wait in line behind the big boys! Pat the "refinery deal" is real! They are trying to implement! Unfortunately the conversions continue in the interim!
SNIPER
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=46493
By: carefulinvestor
29 May 2002, 07:07 PM EDT Msg. 46493 of 46537
(This msg. is a reply to 46433 by chikuduk.)
ckic: Thanks for noting the new link to D.O.C.$ AIPN discussion board!
This link should get new comers to the sign up page:
http://www.investingdd.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=login;guest=4355
Just click on "Sign me up!" to get started.
Most of the best info on AIPN that is being posted publicly seems to now be coming out at the new D.O.C.$ site.
It is also nice not to have to put up with all the nonsense of the bashers.
Good times coming for AIPN!!!
FWIW & IMO
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=45522
By: carefulinvestor
17 May 2002, 11:39 AM EDT Msg. 45522 of 46537
(This msg. is a reply to 45512 by cnasty2.)
cnasty2: Why didn't "the street" know about ADSX when it ran from .11 to $2.40? The so-called "street" has been wrong often, as has been proved time and time again throughout the history of the stock market.
And this is the OTC, expect even stranger things to happen -- they do all the time.
Furthermore, unless AIPN was lying to the SEC in the 10Q a couple of days ago, multi-year (http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=45414) refinery contracts (plural, http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=45418) are still on the table.
AIPN also noted in that same 10Q that the refinery "is now gearing up to produce several new specialty products that are high margin with potential significant growth possibilities," (http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=45417) which still fits with the ATOFINA (http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=41881 ) rumors that have been circulating for some time.
Moreover, why are they gearing up now at the Lake Charles refinery, if nothing is about to happen?
The same 10Q also stated (on the 1551 gas deals):
"We are currently engaged in negotiations and discussions with various
potential purchasers and transporters for the transportation and/or
purchase of our anticipated Shagryly gas production and other gas we may
have available for sale under a U.S. Dollar or Eurodollar backed contract"
"...of Shagyrly Shomyshty. We have had discussions with various financing
entities, suppliers and export credit agencies regarding project financing
to complete the full development of this project."
On 953 we also read:
In May 1997, our American International Petroleum Kazakhstan subsidiary
entered into an agreement with MED Shipping and Trading S.A., a Liberian
corporation with offices in Frankfurt, Germany, to acquire 70% of the stock
of MED Shipping Usturt Petroleum Ltd., a Kazakhstan corporation which owns
100% of the working interest in a Kazakhstan oil and gas concession called
License 953.The concession is located approximately 125 kilometers from
the Chevron Corporation"s multi-billion-barrel Tengiz Oil field near the
Caspian Sea in the North Usturt Basin.
"...we believe it continues to be a viable
prospect because License 953 is known to contain other geological
structures with unevaluated geological potential and we currently intend to
have the required minimum work program completed in accordance with the
contract...After extensive testing and geological and geophysical research and study,
we believe that any significant volumes of economically recoverable oil and
gas may be found in the deep, untested, carboniferous age rocks. The
carboniferous is present over approximately 40% of the total unevaluated
acreage remaining on License 953."
Seeds has done some stellar research in the area and provided us with many excellent posts regarding these comments.
Here is just one example:
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By: seeds-by-size $$$$
29 Apr 2002, 09:55 AM EDT Msg. 43885 of 45519
(This msg. is a reply to 43856 by carefulinvestor.)
Dear carefullinvestor,
It just means that like money speaks louder then words any oil company looking for a bigger stake in Kazakhstan or an oil major coming in for the first time will realise the potential large amount of oil and gas on the AIPN Licence 953 and licence 1551,after all the North Ustyurt Basin is said to be the second largest richest hydrocarbon Basin after the North Caspian Basin in all of Kazakhstan.
I came across what will be probably be found at 4,400 meters long before I ever heard of AIPN from a discussion with an oil engineer who was working for an oil company in an oil field in Turkmenistan whose carboniferous hydrocarbon reservoir depth was similair to the Tenzig depth and all three Baisins touch each other and shared a similair geological history up to that time.
In summation I am just saying INCREASINGLY VALUABLE HYDROCARBON ASSETS LIKE THOSE AT 1551 & 953 WILL ATTRACT INCREASINGLY DEEPER FINANCIAL POCKETS and this has been going on for at least 2 years or more from what I have read on this board and it is only a matter of time ,in my opinion, that if AIPN can hang on that a favourable deal for AIPN will be made in my opinion and in terms of statistical probability.
Just supply and demand once the morst favourable fields in the North Caspian,Middle Caspian and South Caspian basins are snapped up which now they look to be except in the disputed areas that The North Ustyurt Basin is Next and the biggest prize is AIPN's 1551 and 953 licences as I see it.
John Size
From: http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=43885
___
It is also been noted on this board that serious talks are taking place regarding both 953 and 1551 and that JK plans to fly to Russia (if he has not already left) soon to focus on closing a deal on 1551.
Emphases added throughout this post.
FWIW & IMO
Competition
Refining and Asphalt Divisions
The State Departments of Transportation throughout the southeastern part of
the United States, including all the states that we consider our
marketplace, continue to expand the percentage of polymer modified asphalts
in the total mix of road grade asphalts laid on their various highways.
This continuing development has been very good for us as the major oil
companies continue their withdrawal from this complex business. Our Lake
Charles asphalt blending facility currently has the capability to furnish
the majority of these polymer modified products. The facility is now
gearing up to produce several new specialty products that are high margin
with potential significant growth possibilities.
In addition to the construction of the Exxon coker in Houston, which
eliminated Exxon Mobil from the asphalt business, Marathon Ashland
Petroleum has recently commissioned a large coker in New Orleans that we
expect will bring drastic supply changes to the entire marketplace.
Marathon will move from a net seller in the wholesale asphalt market to a
net buyer to supply their vast downstream retail rack business. We plan to
fill a portion of this void upon resumption of crude processing.
Most of our competition in our planned asphalt manufacturing business will
come from those refiners who do not have downstream processing options such
as residual coking capacity. The major competitor in the local truck rack
market is a blending plant operation over 75 miles away. The average
distance from our refinery to the nearest competing truck rack
asphalt-producing refinery is over 150 miles away. We have been successful
over the past year developing the East Texas market. Our current volume in
East Texas approaches fifty percent of our business. We have transportation
advantages over all competitors in the gulf coast area except one whose
overall cost basis is higher than ours.
10Q
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
Golfer, no I am not always optimistic, but I still think AIPN is finally about to move up. These posts from RB are good,,the last has the location for a new AIPN discussion group:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=45400
By: carefulinvestor
16 May 2002, 05:31 PM EDT Msg. 45400 of 46216
(This msg. is a reply to 45388 by Sniper67.)
Sniper, I agree with you.
I also believe the upcoming refinery deal will not only give AIPN a long-term profitable core business, but will lead to the elimination of the debbers (in time).
However, even more importantly, it will buy AIPN as much time as they need to capitalize on the Kaz. concessions (and there is a high likelihood for HUGE profits here given enough time).
I am not looking for big overnight profits, though I may get them if enough people realize what a long-term, multi-year contract with a company like TOTAL really means to AIPN. Not just the contract itself, but the long term consequences. If there are enough astute buyers to recognize the astounding potential that will become even more likely if a long term deal is signed with TOTAL, and these ideas are factored into buying decisions, the pps will likely move up very quickly.
However, I am prepared to wait if necessary -- though I also know that it does not take much (especially when it seems that AIPN is so close on so many fronts) to quickly turn the pps in the opposite direction and even to see some large moves that way.
Do you have any further comments (positive or negative)?
All the best to you and other honest AIPN longs!!!
FWIW & IMO
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=45318
By: Sniper67 $$$$$
16 May 2002, 01:07 PM EDT Msg. 45318 of 46216
(This msg. is a reply to 45315 by AmericanMoni.)
MONI: If you are going to make
the statement, you should back it up! Otherwise you get thrown in with all the other hypesters and bashers!
On p.7 of 10Q - "we are in the latter stages of discussions with a major oil company to finalize an agreement under which we would be provided unlimitd amounts of asphalt..."
Saying it was executed would require a PR wouldn't it?
SNIPER
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=45212
By: carefulinvestor
15 May 2002, 05:37 PM EDT Msg. 45212 of 46216
Some of the most interesting recent information on AIPN can now be found at:
http://www.overnightprofits.com/investing/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi
And there are no bashers (moni, 5X5, blindfool, et al.) to clutter the board!
FWIW & IMO
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=38910
(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)
I am more confident now than I have been for a long time. I expect we are about to witness positive movement in the share price. This should be due to the news of good developments at AIPN in the coming weeks.
Golfer, when I see a respected poster on RB like sniper, who has said he personally knows almost all AIPN's management team in this post http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=44954, say that he knows the refinery deal is done http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=45247, along with what looks like obvious leaks http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=44739, because of the great detail that fits with the many rumors and the latest news from the company, I tend to think that something big is about to happen.
This information makes it look like certain conditions are being fulfilled by AIPN before they publicly announce the long awaited refinery contract.
The recent 10Q also stated "We are in the latter stages of discussions with a major oil company to finalize an agreement under which we would be provided unlimited amounts of asphalt to fulfill our outstanding contracts and backlog." Much more good information came out in the recent 10Q http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=45522.
Now we hear that AIPN is strictly controlling the information that is going out and this makes me think even more that we are very close to a big press release.
We will know soon enough and I like you hope goods things are about to happen.
Golfer: This is a good question, from a previous post.
What do you think the refinery is gearing up for and why is this important?
Remember, this week's 10Q said "The facility is now gearing up to produce several new specialty products that are high margin
with potential significant growth possibilities."
Here is another enjoyable post from RB.
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=45400
By: carefulinvestor
16 May 2002, 05:31 PM EDT Msg. 45400 of 45588
(This msg. is a reply to 45388 by Sniper67.)
Sniper, I agree with you.
I also believe the upcoming refinery deal will not only give AIPN a long-term profitable core business, but will lead to the elimination of the debbers (in time).
However, even more importantly, it will buy AIPN as much time as they need to capitalize on the Kaz. concessions (and there is a high likelihood for HUGE profits here given enough time).
I am not looking for big overnight profits, though I may get them if enough people realize what a long-term, multi-year contract with a company like TOTAL really means to AIPN. Not just the contract itself, but the long term consequences. If there are enough astute buyers to recognize the astounding potential that will become even more likely if a long term deal is signed with TOTAL, and these ideas are factored into buying decisions, the pps will likely move up very quickly.
However, I am prepared to wait if necessary -- though I also know that it does not take much (especially when it seems that AIPN is so close on so many fronts) to quickly turn the pps in the opposite direction and even to see some large moves that way.
Do you have any further comments (positive or negative)?
All the best to you and other honest AIPN longs!!!
FWIW & IMO
Golfer, I still think we will see better days for AIPN.
I think this post from RB sums things us.
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=45522
By: carefulinvestor
17 May 2002, 11:39 AM EDT Msg. 45522 of 45528
(This msg. is a reply to 45512 by cnasty2.)
cnasty2: Why didn't "the street" know about ADSX when it ran from .11 to $2.40? The so-called "street" has been wrong often, as has been proved time and time again throughout the history of the stock market.
And this is the OTC, expect even stranger things to happen -- they do all the time.
Furthermore, unless AIPN was lying to the SEC in the 10Q a couple of days ago, multi-year (http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=45414) refinery contracts (plural, http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=45418) are still on the table.
AIPN also noted in that same 10Q that the refinery "is now gearing up to produce several new specialty products that are high margin with potential significant growth possibilities," (http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=45417) which still fits with the ATOFINA (http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=41881 ) rumors that have been circulating for some time.
Moreover, why are they gearing up now at the Lake Charles refinery, if nothing is about to happen?
The same 10Q also stated (on the 1551 gas deals):
"We are currently engaged in negotiations and discussions with various
potential purchasers and transporters for the transportation and/or
purchase of our anticipated Shagryly gas production and other gas we may
have available for sale under a U.S. Dollar or Eurodollar backed contract"
"...of Shagyrly Shomyshty. We have had discussions with various financing
entities, suppliers and export credit agencies regarding project financing
to complete the full development of this project."
On 953 we also read:
In May 1997, our American International Petroleum Kazakhstan subsidiary
entered into an agreement with MED Shipping and Trading S.A., a Liberian
corporation with offices in Frankfurt, Germany, to acquire 70% of the stock
of MED Shipping Usturt Petroleum Ltd., a Kazakhstan corporation which owns
100% of the working interest in a Kazakhstan oil and gas concession called
License 953.The concession is located approximately 125 kilometers from
the Chevron Corporation"s multi-billion-barrel Tengiz Oil field near the
Caspian Sea in the North Usturt Basin.
"...we believe it continues to be a viable
prospect because License 953 is known to contain other geological
structures with unevaluated geological potential and we currently intend to
have the required minimum work program completed in accordance with the
contract...After extensive testing and geological and geophysical research and study,
we believe that any significant volumes of economically recoverable oil and
gas may be found in the deep, untested, carboniferous age rocks. The
carboniferous is present over approximately 40% of the total unevaluated
acreage remaining on License 953."
Seeds has done some stellar research in the area and provided us with many excellent posts regarding these comments.
Here is just one example:
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By: seeds-by-size $$$$
29 Apr 2002, 09:55 AM EDT Msg. 43885 of 45519
(This msg. is a reply to 43856 by carefulinvestor.)
Dear carefullinvestor,
It just means that like money speaks louder then words any oil company looking for a bigger stake in Kazakhstan or an oil major coming in for the first time will realise the potential large amount of oil and gas on the AIPN Licence 953 and licence 1551,after all the North Ustyurt Basin is said to be the second largest richest hydrocarbon Basin after the North Caspian Basin in all of Kazakhstan.
I came across what will be probably be found at 4,400 meters long before I ever heard of AIPN from a discussion with an oil engineer who was working for an oil company in an oil field in Turkmenistan whose carboniferous hydrocarbon reservoir depth was similair to the Tenzig depth and all three Baisins touch each other and shared a similair geological history up to that time.
In summation I am just saying INCREASINGLY VALUABLE HYDROCARBON ASSETS LIKE THOSE AT 1551 & 953 WILL ATTRACT INCREASINGLY DEEPER FINANCIAL POCKETS and this has been going on for at least 2 years or more from what I have read on this board and it is only a matter of time ,in my opinion, that if AIPN can hang on that a favourable deal for AIPN will be made in my opinion and in terms of statistical probability.
Just supply and demand once the morst favourable fields in the North Caspian,Middle Caspian and South Caspian basins are snapped up which now they look to be except in the disputed areas that The North Ustyurt Basin is Next and the biggest prize is AIPN's 1551 and 953 licences as I see it.
John Size
From: http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=AIPN&read=43885
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It is also been noted on this board that serious talks are taking place regarding both 953 and 1551 and that JK plans to fly to Russia (if he has not already left) soon to focus on closing a deal on 1551.
Emphases added throughout this post.
FWIW & IMO
Competition
Refining and Asphalt Divisions
The State Departments of Transportation throughout the southeastern part of
the United States, including all the states that we consider our
marketplace, continue to expand the percentage of polymer modified asphalts
in the total mix of road grade asphalts laid on their various highways.
This continuing development has been very good for us as the major oil
companies continue their withdrawal from this complex business. Our Lake
Charles asphalt blending facility currently has the capability to furnish
the majority of these polymer modified products. The facility is now
gearing up to produce several new specialty products that are high margin
with potential significant growth possibilities.
In addition to the construction of the Exxon coker in Houston, which
eliminated Exxon Mobil from the asphalt business, Marathon Ashland
Petroleum has recently commissioned a large coker in New Orleans that we
expect will bring drastic supply changes to the entire marketplace.
Marathon will move from a net seller in the wholesale asphalt market to a
net buyer to supply their vast downstream retail rack business. We plan to
fill a portion of this void upon resumption of crude processing.
Most of our competition in our planned asphalt manufacturing business will
come from those refiners who do not have downstream processing options such
as residual coking capacity. The major competitor in the local truck rack
market is a blending plant operation over 75 miles away. The average
distance from our refinery to the nearest competing truck rack
asphalt-producing refinery is over 150 miles away. We have been successful
over the past year developing the East Texas market. Our current volume in
East Texas approaches fifty percent of our business. We have transportation
advantages over all competitors in the gulf coast area except one whose
overall cost basis is higher than ours.
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(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)