I really think Dan messed up big time peeing on this guys leg.http://www.mineweb.com/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page675?oid=38098&sn=Detail >>>>>> Helmer has forgotten more about Russian mining affair than Danny has ever known. Look for a smack-down.

google John Helmer/ abvg http://www.mineweb.com/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page66?oid=45015&sn=Detail Now that Mr Helmer knows he's been accused of some kind of short scheme, look for the 3rd installment of the war of words, this time it will be brutal. Helmers a bulldog, and a bulldog vs a weasel ? Can't wait.

I think their will be, one I can think of is " when will it stop falling " lol Think about the questions that were asked at the last cc, then replay the answers.... funny aren't they ? Talk is cheap, b/s is even cheaper.

I said it was another scenario, one that has to be considered imo. Maybe Ryan was buying, thats your guess, its as good as anyone elses. Did he expect the Helmer thing ? I don't think so. Does this change anything ? It could imo. I wonder who will play James Bond in this pink sheet thriller ? Danny ?

I agree with you, he promised the world then appears to be agitated when the calls come in. So he doesn't answer them and doesn't return e-mails until months later. Posters refer to him as lyin Ryan, and that doesn't seem to phase him. You left out one other scenario, or mistake he might have made, that being that this whole thing is a scam and he has failed at that too. That changes everything doesn't it ?

Exactly, how do you think the people feel that paid that for it, and got nothing in return ? I think you're saying these b/s promises are ok as long as a few flippers make money. To a degree I agree with you, but theres a limit I think they have crossed.

Once investors remember what this stock is all about, they will be back. In fact, a few have dribbled in today. I expect the co to rev this up in the coming weeks, its that delisting thing, get ready.

All this sleeping beauty needs right now is some lipstick and a nice big juicy pr. It sure is feeling better these past few days, you never know. BTW, I must retract a statement I made here a while back, I said I would never buy this stock again at any price.... I lied lol

Conference calls, pr's, I don't even care about them. Talk is cheap, these guys can say anything they want and most do. Follow up on what already was promised 6 months ago, that would be a start. Point is he will have an answer to every question, he always will, but at the end of the day does it help the sp ? Temp spikes based on talk that never materializes won't do it, that b/s has been worn out.

Hey red, you think he sent this to Helmer ?

I respect your opinion, the only thing is that run a while back was pre-Helmer, and to be honest I was almost convinced to buy. No one really knows where its heading, especially with all this uncertainty. Dannow has to PROVE Helmer is full of it. Helmer might push on....SEC might do its job for once...who knows ? The risk reward ? No way, not until this whole mess clears up. Fact is their was enough b/s going on with Ryan BEFORE this happened. You say " If Dan wants to run it to .10 or .15 cents, that could be accomplished in as little as a week " why wouldn't he want to run it ?

That will just provoke Helmer to keep the story alive and investigate further, that sells, and that will open up a big box of worms I'm afraid. jmo

They can put out anything they want and say anything they want. The real issue is whether the Russian Gov't will get involved in this. Only then will the real truth come out, and I think will.

If I or anyone else believed that don't you think it would be running ? Or at least walking ? No one know what Helmers up to OR what friends he might have that could make real trouble for the jr miners from Canada. You think this is just going to go away ? I don't.

" The company has secured a source of funding which we intend to exercise once we realize a much higher valuation for the company on the market " and this my friends is the fine print, the funding, which will be sorely needed should the mines actually be real, will have to come from some other source. This sp @ .10 0r .15 ? With all this crapola going on weekly here ? Give me a break Danny, tell the people plan 2, where will you get the money?

Helmer somehow connected to a short conspiracy ? I think the lawyers will advise Dan to drop it, and soon. I think Helmers being nice now, jmo.

start hitting those 5's, full speed ahead lol

Maybe you could contact Clint Severson from Abaxis, when I last checked China was one of the only countries they were not selling in. ( vet supplies, yes, they don't need sfda approval )

I don't know why not, I cannot for the life of me understand the Abaxis thing. This was supposed to be a hold up for a lot of approvals http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-07/10/content_5424937.htm and here was my last e-mail response <<< Posted by: mythbuster
In reply to: None
Date:6/6/2007 10:29:34 AM
Post #of 5791

E-mail from Abaxis, I think this could be good news, but I who knows ? ( please ignore Desert son ) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 11:54:47 -0700
From: Vladimir Ostoich <VOstoich@abaxis.com>
To:+++++++++
Cc: Jim Bickel <j-bic@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RE: sfda approval
Dear ********
The statement in my previous e-mail is correct insofar as Abaxis has not
received jet a formal document from the Chinese FDA. Also, the details
for the distribution agreement between Abaxis and Sino UJE are being
worked out as we speak.
Please address further questions to Mr. Jim Bickel, CEO of Sino UJE

Sincerely,

Vladimir Ostoich,
VP Marketing Pacific Rim
Abaxis

Did you say you knew of another pm'er who sued Mineweb and won ? I would think Mineweb would be a little more careful with their allegations.

He's in a bind here, he has to make a statement but knows it will fire another response. You said this is your first pink Red. Let me tell you, I've been trading pennies for some time now and NEVER have I seen anything like this. Some say its normal ? lol This stock and ceo have become too transparent, these things that will come out now are supposed to be hidden....thats why they are where they are. This b/s will not go away, sorry.

Well life hasn't treated me to a few months in Fla, but a little cold air is good for you lol I agree, it wouldn't take much to move this at these levels, who knows, maybe that Abaxis announcement is near ? If they would just do one thing positive for the investors it would do wonders for this stock. Here's hoping. gl

oh, I get it, blind faith with a heavy dose of finger crossing, this is getting good with the Russians coming lol

Red, if its going to pop after lunch, why don't you buy it all now...why wait till it goes to .01 or less ? You seem to have inside info, typical of most of Dannys ventures. And anyone has to wonder why these guys operate in the basement. Going down ?

Thanks for the blessing, but not necessary. I'm am not trying to scare you, consider my opinions for the unsuspecting newbie that just received his first e-mail saying " High Alert "-- ABVG -- Strong Buy. Buy the whole float and iggy all the scarey posters and make some $$$$$. gl

There's a joke in there somewhere but I won't go there lol

This guy Helmer will hound Ryan now imo. He will get the Russian Govt. involved, believe me, any improprieties will be dealt with. One thing the gov't is cracking down on is environmental issues, they could make it extremely hard for the American miners. This will get very interesting imo

Seems to be a different version of the phone conversation Red, wonder where the truth lies ? To determine whether Ryan was fudging on the multiple names for Dovgan’s and Aurus’s property and licence companies, Ryan was asked if he had any relationship with Dovgan, Zabaikalgeoprom, or Krong. He refused to reply, and hung up.

Hows L2 now ? I'm looking for a bargain myself, I can't decide between aurc or abvg.....might buy both. Wish me luck.

Does it matter ? Its funny that people actually call these places expecting an honest answer, oh I know, maybe Helmer is shorting the stock !!! Thats it. lol All these gold stocks not making a dime, not reporting anything and gold sits at a all time high. Amazing !

I understand what you are saying but that alone doesn't make this legit and you know that. You have no idea what or who Ryan has persuaded to buy all these, you think big money is always right ? Or doesn't get fooled like everyone else ? I said big money...not smart.

Yes it is one-sided, exposing scam penny stocks usually is. Wait for the rebuttal, I'm sure it will come before that big, juicy pr you are waiting for. This guy Helmer, whatever his motives, can get more info about aurc and abvg that any hobby investor sitting in an office in N.Y. lol You ought to thank the man...he cares about you. lol

lol How many errors are in Ryans last 8 pr's ? This is what I thought it was, a scam. All that gold just laying there waiting to be picked up, and what a deal he got on it ! C'mon, a pink sheet co with no $$$ ??? This guy Helmer will not let this go I'm afraid, he's like a pinky scam pit bull. jmo

That didn't take long. The Helmer rebuttal, wow ! http://johnhelmer.net/?p=323#more-323

I think this Helmer thing needs some time to blow over, he decides to refute Ryans claims further and start digging what do you suppose will happen ? Littleredguy said Dan hung up on him, sounds like its not over yet.

Hello Scoobey, hows the iron man of I-hub doing these days ? This announcement could be good news, not " to the moon " news but good. I don't see Toddy coming here to collect a paycheck and sit on his butt. Maybe he has some ideas to change the way this co has been operating, or not operating however you want to put it. I took a bite @ .0003 a while back, who knows ? gl

Jersey, throw another 7 g's at it and pray, it runs to 6 and you're out with a story to tell your grandchildren lol

I agree, I have noticed the same thing, this sp is down to a level that they can work with now as far as running it, as opposed to running it into the ground lol I think its called the bottom.

No can do, I went through the whole thing a while back, it is interesting read though, not only with Dan but others as well. This is a very tricky business lol

Hey, there's a site that really investigates penny stocks and their players. They claim they don't get paid, they must have a lot of time to waste is all I can say. From aug through nov a lot print devoted to Mr Ryan. Go to the " Fake " board. http://www.atomicbobs.com/