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An educated guess as to how much of the float is gone, digested into shareholder's currently holding at this time?
20%
30%
40%?
IMO, if it was any where near 40% or better, we wouldn't see .001 increments, we would be seeing .005 and better.
Temp'
OT: Opportune, SFNN is still a good play, things take time, so I'll leave it at that. EVSA on the other hand is extremely risky given a lot more "what if's". We are having fun while it floats, only where is it going from here? Some say up, I don't really know because the value of "news pending" could be anything. If it's a say $500k order, we may drop back, or a higher dollar, maybe we'll run about a penny or two. I wouldn't dare guess given the unknowns here.
Haven't taken the time to read prior posts, so who else is here from SFNN?
Temp'
5.2mil and holding...
Another 55 million shares and only 2-tenths of one penny upwards? This is totally insane...
sTempy,where's Ren?
Just got in, nice gains, rumors or posts I should go back and read? I won't guess how many there are, but maybe 300 today?
Nice run...
SirTemp'
rheddle, really appreciate the time you spent on this post. I don't mind admitting, jmo though..., but most here have very little knowledge of the damage detergents do, and for the most part could care less. It's a care less because the standards are probably way lower than anywhere else, so why care, right?
On my way back from Tulum Mexico, I spoke with someone from Chile, an economist, and we both agreed the propaganda here is one of the best when it comes to keeping things hidden.
As far as the intellectual property, I had forgotten I once read about it. This alone may be worth quite a bit of booty, not sure, and we may not ever know the extent of the patents. But it sure doesn't hurt going into negotiations and such thimgs.
Maybe the two could merge?
Thanks again,
Temp'
rheddle, that interests me as a laymen when it comes to such products... is it true that Eurasia's flight to enviro friendly products outweights the US? What's your take using maybe a percentage rate in comparison?
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Have a good weekend... EOM
So LJ, what's your take on EVSA? Might you say it's worth .02cent for OB status without sufficient rev's or ?
Just wondering about your off-beat message, which wasn't directed to you... hmmmm
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Thanks all, with the amount of posts here, I haven't been able to keep up since my business schedule runs a bit faster
All have a great weekend
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Yup, so they made half-a-mil give or take... letting us clear up next week for a clean rally.
Thanks,
Temp'
True, and don't anyone miss understand my point. No way would I dish on what has already taken place... I'll just be curious too see how many new-shares we have in the next couple of weeks.
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Eric, I think when the smoke settles on the amount of new shares on the float, we'll see in excess of 50mil and more like 75mil.
There is no way this could be trading unless those amounts and more have been added during this week.
How many shares traded this week alone?
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How many times has that happend in my past 15 years exp... leading to bogus info?
To many times counting all toes and fingers
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A shareholders letter on the home page would suffice...
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$32k turn around today so far and it ain't even noon. Up $20k, down $20k plus a -$2k in losses, now back to $10k profit.
I've heard of roller coaster, but this one beats the BEAST!!
SirTemp'
Fringe, I like the way to post regarding "how" you speak to Brian. That is professional, staying away from the obvious what tickes any CEO off,etc... It's business and more business...
Thanks
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I have yet to build a repore with him, but plan on doing so.
You guys are too funny, and to boot, what gap needed to be filled on the way to .13cents? Now that the MM's never thought this puppy would pull out of the gates, on top of a prime holder letting go, peace to us all!
It all adds up to being patient and let things run their course...
SirTemp'
Pants filler? Good-one... hehehe EOM
Stranger than fiction... EOM
Bigdogs, appreciate your thoughts EOM
Team, how ya do'n? This one from the start was a much greater risk than SFNN, and still can't quite get the sense of what's making this tick. There are a lot of enviro safe products out, millions by the count, so I have a feeling this is running on rumors for the time being besides what's obviously facts, which have already been discussed.
Ya know some guys just happen to be in the right place at the right time, and since we are talking about environmentally friendly chemicals; maybe Bryan's hit the big time with possibly a spoke's-person, well known investor, or something along these lines.
What's you're take on EVSA?
OT: Those on the SFNN board don't know it yet, but I had to sell out of SFNN in order to get onboard as a nomenclature [Chief-Focused-Officer] a liason/consultant/guru between MB and Shareholders. Not going any further than to say that, only to add ethically... my buying while discussing this project wasn't acceptable even though nothing was in writing.
So I'll start with a clean slate as-it-were even with the 50% loss.
Good to see you here... are you in?
SirTemp'
Dream, thanks, EOM
Dream, like the rest of us, none yet understand the true story behind this one. I got on board by watching the tape first, then debt free, then products for a clean future.
Unless we see a large partner of sorts or a sizable distribution,.03 would be way tops imo.
Can anyone tell me why this ran to .13 last May outside the Anscott announcement [$60,000 purchase] along with the 2 for 1 forward split?
Let's hope that since those outside the US usually have a deeper appreciation for [natural cleaning products], something big is in the works.
Temp'
sometimes we buy for the shiny surface, then scrub downwards at a later date to see what's really happening... my DD continues!
MM's like the # 267,800, used 3 times in the last few minutes... this is some strange stuff, but have seen it before.
Temp'
About now would be a good time to PR a NOBO list, and send one directly [sign here please] to the MM's.
They'd be toast....
Temp'
Something I like seeing is that EVSA is showing up 4th on the 10minute ticker in trades for the entire scope of OB and PK's. That say's something as other traders/lurkers see this and wonder what all the fuss is about. A very good sign, and something I key in on when I'm trying to figure [in part] my next buy.
SirTemp'
Hey Dream.... just got back after being gone a couple of hours, who opened the flood-gates?
I feel good, 5.2mil good at .0035avg...
Hope it holds and we all do well...
SirTemp'
Correction: Unless the CEO had bogus numbers, I seriously don't see anything below .004 now as a low.
JMO
Temp'
Done, 300k coming and it's all over for me. I hope this works out guys, I'm in deep.... 5.2mil
Thanks for everyone's messages.... risk takes on reward!
SirTemp'
These guys are squatters MM's EOM
Now my next 250k should be back to .045, right since that's even more than what took it to .035 combined....
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Lets see if they take it back to to .045 with my 400k here in a few seconds...
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They only filled 25k at .035, left 825k on the table... no shares at .035?
Temp'
Decided to up the war chest to 3-mil, not that I'm positive we'll be rich, but we are going to make a few bucks here. Someone mentioned their .0035 was slow to process? Less than 15seconds for me.
SirTemp'
Eric, I think you're probaly right, in that maybe 40% of today's action was added float. Thus bringing us to somewhere around 140mil or so.
Realistically, if they have product going out the door, and their last sales was nomimal [$70k?], it would be reasonable to think they would need cash up front.
Temp'
Unfortunately for our side, there isn't a float of 91million, that is definitely poo poo. Anyone that thinks this reflects actual numbers after today would need their had examined. I'm not saying this won't make us money, but what I am saying that absolutely, positively, there is someone selling "common stock" into the float today. Tomorrow and in the future? Who knows...
I had no idea, but suspected it...
I'm still long for a penny-plus though
Temp'
Have you ever tried catching a greased-pig, or maybe just witnessed someone trying? The illustration fits MB's schedule, his forte, so that I hope we finally bonk-heads.
Let's pose a question... if I were a bug on his shoulder for the past two months, do you think we'd have news? Positively!
Speaking of a right-hand-man, which I bring up due to what I don't see happening, usually the CFO is the CEO's right hand man, but I know very little about her to comment. MB said she's from good stuff, so I'll have to take it for what it's worth.
What I see form my end is the lack of "intellectual down time" from MB to cypher "daily occurances" outside his busy schedule, that is taking this time to focus/reflect how his business day's impact our stock. I think what MB needs is a CFO as in chief-Focused-Officer, so that just having a bean-counter doesn't mean the partership compliments a long term strategy. Maybe it cost more
What I see from MB is more in line with a COO and not CEO persay, but the numbers based on what he's accomplished, how he's going to accomplish, speak for themselves.
So, would I like to be that right hand man? No, maybe for 90-days, but that's it. I have a life...
Temp'
Still here EOM
That's why I quickly put guys like this on ignore... that way my time is not waisted. I agree with Eric above a penny, but think this will settle somewhere between 1 and 2 cents by weeks end.
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futuretrump, rephased: I need to chim in here a bit and ponder a question. One in which I first want to ref your numbers, they are what I consider good info. I just called apple and they confirmed about 91mil. Who cares about 2-mil diff...
But, and there's always a but... we will have traded 1/2 of the float... does anyone understand what I am saying???
One of two things are happening, and one is a lot more logical than the other.
1.) MM's are seriously caught shorting here from past
2.) CEO recently made a private-placement or "equilavent", which is not a bad thing, but we'll have to wait until that settles, and/or the person selling into the stock see's it's going a lot higher and decides to wait.
My experience tells me it's number 2, as I too have participated in PP. It will show in the upcoming months from the audit.
Temp'