There are a lot of moving parts here, that lately seem to be moving really fast. You can feel free to concentrate on the positive aspects of the situation, I'm sometimes more comfortable considering the negative. Because I know that if they can answer my questions about failing then they will be able to succeed.

Ok, Google was not a good example, so let me ask these two questions to try to make it clearer.

Is it possible that MPE revenue won't be enough to underwrite the costs of the Clipstream business until Clipstream becomes profitable?

Is it possible that giant media company X can tie up Destiny in court at a cost that would be pocket change to X but would bust Destiny, sort of the Standard Oil play.

A nickel to anyone who can remember who said, "total paranoia is total awareness."

Full of something. You're the lawyer, you know about these things, the point isn't Google specifically, just a random example to indicate possible litigation costs, which will be coming for sure. It would be helpful to be able to Google in German, Chinese, Korean, and Hebrew to find out what else is out there at present.

I think you're assuming a constant in expenditures and I have to disagree about that. At some point, Destiny is going to have to start spending on marketing and advertising. Also, I still believe they will have to fend off patent infringement litigation and that will be costly. As I've mentioned before, A. Bell had to defend his patents 62 times in court as others made completely unfounded claims to having invented the telephone. One thing that worries me is that a biggie like Google can afford to keep throwing frivolous patent lawsuits at Destiny in the hope of using so much of Destiny's capital that they will have to sell their patents to pay.

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Nah, no router, plugged in.

It's Verizon - looks fine on Safari at home

Using my Mac Pro, trailers look pretty good with Chrome, still pretty bad with Safari, and won't play with Firefox. Maybe it's my service, but other, non-encoded videos play fine. Anyone else using Verizon broadband? Can't get Fios yet.

I wish - I was sort of disheartened by the way the trailers played on my Mac Pro at work, so haven't tried the iPad since.

Patience is good, a famous investor said (roughly) that money is made not in the buying and selling, but in the waiting. But I'm not sure, again, that hearing how well Clipstream plays on my particular iPad with my particular wi fi helps in the macro sense.

I don't understand. Surely they're testing Mac systems on their own. It's not like cable tv service where they're going to send a technician to everyone's house when there's a problem. Everyones' got different servers, machines, cable /wi fi capabilities, download speeds, there's not going to be a solution for every single variable. That being said, if Destiny is going for business with ad agencies, they're going to have to do their demos for the media buyers and in that environment, it's very likely to be on a Mac.

are they freakin' kidding me? the "gravity" trailer is completely not clear on my Mac 10.6.8, with a nice NEC monitor, totally unsatisfactory. and the "star trek" trailer is complete b.s. Listen, people, if they show something that has cutaways every 3 seconds, or so, then nothing is on the screen long enough to determine if things break up or actually play smoothly, it's what you'd show to impress a rube. I rate this a D, at best, a complete disappointment.

are they freakin' kidding me? the "gravity" trailer is completely not clear on my Mac 10.6.8, with a nice NEC monitor, totally unsatisfactory. and the "star trek" trailer is complete b.s. Listen, people, if they show something that has cutaways every 3 seconds, or so, then nothing is on the screen long enough to determine if things break up. I rate this a D, at best, a complete disappointment.

MITK may or may not be a good stock, I have no idea. For your sake I hope it goes up fast and far. However, this is the DSNY board - if everyone starts writing about their other favorite stocks it becomes pointless. I think we all know by now that Van has another board that deals with his picks (I subscribe to his newsletter) and these discussions really belong there or elsewhere.

Investor Relations deal with investors. Public Relations & Marketing deal with the media.

Thank you, DD. I only wish Destiny itself could get the word out as clearly as some of you do. In a magazine article, for example. Or anything the public, at large, might see. Soon.

Thank you, sir, I'll look forward to a fast and sharp rise in the DSNY share price.

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is this competition?

Agreed. Much higher volume on up days than down days, too - .94 seems to be a triple top, so it would be nice to break through that w/ good volume.

I'm not sure how one can quantify how long it will take to finish the debugging. If you have good reason to believe it will be in the next few weeks, I hope you're buying shares all day long. I think the CEO is developing a track record of telling investors what they want to hear re: timelines, when he speaks at conferences, and then explaining delays later on. I hope for the best but not holding my breath.

He's kind of like the canary in the coal mine: when he's around and yapping it's probably a good sign for upward momentum. I don't think he's a basher, more of a Peck's Bad Boy, maybe a high school / college student, I"m all for all opinions, anyway.

I agree - what's the point of only listening to those who are in agreement with the majority opinion? We already know what they think, plus, you never know where an idea will come from.

so that would make it a little less than 20 per share? I hope that's a little on the low side.

That's the elephant in the room. You have to figure that with so much at stake there must be other companies somewhere working on different solutions to the transcoding situation. I have previously referred to the simultaneous discovery phenomenon, which is something that concerns me about Destiny's (very) slow march to G2 launch. Just because we have 6 patents (pending) for one solution doesn't at all rule out the possibility that another company has 6 other patents for a different solution.

It seems to be a good time to buy, pretty high volume keeping this in the mid to upper .80's for now -I got a little more yesterday, but, unfortunately I'm not the 200 shares per 3 minutes person. Investors are doing their job, now it's up to the company to do their's. The intriguing thing to me about the speech the other day was when Steve all of a sudden said he wasn't going to reveal a certain time frame - can't tell if that's good or bad news.

thanks

I don't understand why someone would operate in this fashion, spending almost $1000 a day in commissions, even at a discount. What's the value added in this system?

100% in 18 months ain't too shabby.

just curious, about when was that?

Thanks, very reassuring

Didn't notice that - and it still appears before Destiny which doesn't appear at all. The larger question remains, that is, if transcoding will be a naturally decreasing cost as technologies improve.

I'm not a tech person, but I started wondering if Destiny isn't getting traction with Clipstream because companies expect transcoding costs to naturally decrease, sort of like phone bills. If you Google something like "decreasing transcoding costs" you get responses like this:

http://www.techrepublic.com/whitepapers/video-services-provider-to-reduce-transcoding-costs-up-to-half/1200177

and there's more. So is this competition? Also, Destiny probably needs some SEO help because they don't appear anywhere in this search.

This is good news, although it remains weird that the CEO has enough time to promptly answer e-mails from the public - shouldn't he be too busy building an empire? The web site situation is long overdue - the current one looks very amateurish which is strange because it doesn't cost too much to throw up a nice one. You don't go and pitch the big boys in a cheap suit - optics count. Hope today's speech isn't the same old same old (next quarter...end of the year...).

Yes, but he seems to be correct about this. I was at the investors conference in NYC last fall and heard the CEO say he was committed to getting DSNY on the NASDQ this year and that support for share price was a priority. Was he just saying what he thought people wanted to hear? I see no evidence of any activity to these ends, completely frustrating esp. on a day like today. Why is this paradigm busting video delivery tech co. trading below .80 again? Anyone?

I realize that, but who do you think is the moderator and how do you think dissenting opinions are dealt with?

It's good to hear from you both, why not come up with another bet? The more opinions the better, differing ideas never hurt anyone and don't impact share price. It's even too bad that Vangorilla took his ball and went home, although his nasty henchman won't be missed.

I don't know it, but I will shortly, thanks.

The biotechs are very satisfying to me in that they either pass their trials and zoom up or don't and crash. No muss, no fuss, no waiting around forever. If you see large institutional investment in one that's below $2 (below $1 is even better), then you know something's afoot.

Thanks and here's one re: GALE, that Destiny might keep in mind, from S.A.:

"the stock's performance has been more a result of excellent execution on behalf of the company's ability to market itself."

which I would gladly take until G2 becomes fully functional.

suit yourself, of course, not my experience, though. caveat emptor.