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Yes, and while we wait more wells keep getting drilled and completed. More leases get negotiated, oil keeps pumping out of finished wells gas reclamation and transport is considered and that is just in the field.
Big Mur, did not realize this has been on the board before, if so, it was before many new investors, such as myself arrived late last year. Did I have it about right, is there anything else I left out that would be useful for hemi longs to hear about? TIA
What what I have able to gather about corporate visions and Keith's history with it. It appears, to me anyway, they had a good business plan of being a holding company for up and coming businesses that would eventually go public. None of this happened and it eventually wore the company down. There was, apparently, some financial impropriety, by others, but Keith, as CEO was part of the plaintiffs. From the paper trail, from interviews and everything else I have heard about Keith, he sounds like a man driven for success, who plans and puts his all into whatever he is doing. It seems now he has found his niche. He is the right man, with the right history, including a difficult stint that I am sure he learned from, to guide hemi further and to great heights. I have found nothing that creates any doubt in my mind about the success we will be seeing with hemi. Part of his conservative nature may be a result of his experience with cvia, I think it makes him better and stronger and that certainly helps investors.
Keith resigned April 17,2001 Notice on page 17 keith received stock for a loan he made to the company. It appears he was doing all he could to make it work, just did not happen.
http://sec.thomsonfn.com/sec/SecProd?pid=MzgwYlhOdVAkWQEQUALSTOEQUALSTO&transform=result&typ...
In pages two and three here it states that none of the companies that corporate vision was working with were able to do ipos due to cost and regulations, this may account for part of Keith's initial reluctance about going to a major index.
http://sec.thomsonfn.com/sec/SecProd?pid=MzgwYlhOdVAkWQEQUALSTOEQUALSTO&transform=result&typ...
When Keith was ceo of corporate visions, there were financial improprieties. Keith as Ceo and the company were the plaintiffs against former company officers, who resigned. Still digging. (page23)
http://sec.thomsonfn.com/sec/SecProd?pid=MzgwYlhOdVAkWQEQUALSTOEQUALSTO&transform=result&typ...
Wow I just went back and read the thread. The "justanaveragejoe" guy really has it in for Keith. He absolutely makes Jagman look better and better. I feel like I need to go take a shower. The IHUB boards really are what mbs should be, informative and a place for discussion, not unfounded attacks. The idea of moderators on every board is excellent, look at other systems and compare. So even If a post of mine gets deleted now and then thanks to Low and Big Mur for the jobs they are doing on this board as well as all the intelligent, veteran investors who post. GLTALs
yes, that hemi will be a 12 dollar stock within two years. shhhhh
"If anything, Hemi will look less credible " This sounds like something jag would say. Personally I could care less how hemi looks right now. The MMs have it looking like a stock that has tanked. What matters is all the things that have been listed over and over, reserves, drilling, knowledge, experience, lack of debt, revenues, leases. I trust Keith will put hemi and shareholders first, since he is the largest. The perception of hemi is difficult for those who have not looked closely because MMs are trying to keep the lid on, great, more cheap shares. But eventually the lid will blow. The last reserve report is the 800 pound gorilla in the room. There will be another coming I would expect with the anticipated move.
I guess it all depends on the MMs. They kept taking hemi down even with two good prs. At some point they have to cover. At some point the WBR piece will air and attract new buyers, at some point the company will issue another good pr. Notice they do not issue fluff. I have more dry powder ready if they want to give away some more cheap shares. You should buy in the twenties too if that is where we go short term. In the long run it will be dollars.
my 3300 @.33
Mildtrans I could not have expressed it better myself.
I will look at a chart too. When hemi spiked to .90 was it not obvious to you that was contrived to then make hemi look like a stock that was plunging, losing 3/4 of its value, even through two positive press releases? Dont MMs have the ability to make that happen and make a stock "look back". Looks like you got caught. You say fundamentals are opinions and only charts are real. Assets are tangible and are part of the fundamentals. The charts are supposed to reflect the value of a stock, which is based on fundamentals. Stocks are just one tool for evaluation. IN the case of hemi, the charts were intentionally skewed by the MMs while it is only the fundamentals have not changed, except to improve. Hence the problem with only looking at charts.
I dont recall posting any emails. You sound as frustrated as a market maker who knows they will be given their come uppance. Are you frustrated because you "overpaid" at .38, or was that just some number you pulled up? In a normal situation, the market value reflects assets, skill sets, knowledge, revenue, small float, and lack of debt. Since this pink sheet market is not reflecting those, someone's got some splainin to do. If there is at least 100 million of known assets under hemis control, and there is , why does the share price not reflect that? Does the market say that oil is not over $60 per barrell? And you never really did answer the original question, as much as you know about all the positives of hemi, why aren't you long?
Still waiting for reply Jagman
Posted by: 1581
In reply to: Jagman who wrote msg# 10797 Date:5/11/2007 7:41:45 AM
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Do you really think hemi has been dealt with professionally where the share price in no way reflects the true value? It is as though 2million bbls PROVEN do not exist,that 3mcfd do not exist, that hemi is debt riddled, unprofitable, shares diluted to the gills, mismanaged, has no equipment or knowledge. And even after all the manipulation and shorting Keith still has the smarts, the long term view, and the assets that will allow hemi to overcome all of the nonsense that has been happening. And you know as much about this company as anyone. Considering the obvious value, why arent you long, why are you always nitpicking and trying to criticize anything that is not spot on perfect?
.10-.75 wow
I also have family members who have invested, even one person who has no knowledge of stocks bought on trust. I keep telling her she needs to read and research but she must see the passion i have for hemi. It still blows me away to think about all the positive things about this stock. The only negatives are outside the stock. Hemi is a real diamond.
Do you really think hemi has been dealt with professionally where the share price in no way reflects the true value? It is as though 2million bbls PROVEN do not exist,that 3mcfd do not exist, that hemi is debt riddled, unprofitable, shares diluted to the gills, mismanaged, has no equipment or knowledge. And even after all the manipulation and shorting Keith still has the smarts, the long term view, and the assets that will allow hemi to overcome all of the nonsense that has been happening. And you know as much about this company as anyone. Considering the obvious value, why arent you long, why are you always nitpicking and trying to criticize anything that is not spot on perfect?
Poor Jag. You sound like the kind of guy who finds a bag of untraceable twenty dollar bills that fell off an armored truck, then throw it away because you were hoping for hundred dollar bills. LOL
With a pr we hit .50s or .60s or higher. No pr more cheap shares. Either way is ok with me. We will be in the dollars by fall I would think. jmo.
Calling company officers is not quite the same as a boiler room btw.
....don't they have to release a PR if they have some "substantial" news???
No Jag, this is the pinks, remember, anything goes. LOL
Congrats to plastipunk for having the number for hemi that will have changed it forever. Anyone that spoke to Jim McBeth at hemi or Mike at wilshire know what I mean. This makes the MMs manipulation games moot, eventually, until then I expect they will still try to create doubt, and selling pressure. It is just more opportunities for very cheap shares. GlTALs
money, more rigs, no dilution oh my!
you may be right about them reading the board or not but I would urge you to call.
Hemi is trying to keep the MMs ignorant of the move that is coming. zguy the big stick is off the rack and Keith is taking his practice swings now. The idea is to keep it close to the vest for investors only and really crush the MMs. Call Jim McBeth or Mike at Wilshire. LOL This will be great.
and new rigs and no dilution
nhguy spoke with president of wilshire, I spoke with Jim McBeth. You can call and get all info you need. I promised Jim to not be specific but I will tell you he sounded excited, as I was when I heard the outline. He recommended buying as many shares as possible. I gave my word. This is a good thing. call yourself wilshire or McBeth, numbers are on the board already.
Just spoke with Jim and he gave me the outline that nhguy heard from Mike at Wilshire. IT IS A BIG, GOOD thing and there is no dilution. I gave my word to Jim not to be specific so just reiterating what nhguy said and confirming it. Buy all you can now.
You have always struck me as a smart long. I was really surprised you were addressing jag in a way that could worry longs that is all. It is a tough time to hold now but I hope we all win in the end. GLTY
Can you elaborate please, tia
Was not a personal attack, just my opinion of boards perception.
Yes and by making it a public message to the Jagman, of all board members, while not saying anything else, you have really damaged your credibility.
Nice chart jag. The cmf does show the accumulation by longs and MMs. It may have been zguy that mentioned 87% buys. If it is acting like a pinkie it is only because the MMs are forcing it to look that way. They are playing a dangerous game. The lower they try to take it the more of the float gets bought by longs who are holding for at least that .90 they showed us. The fundamentals, which are truly the measure of any stocks value, have only improved since the MMs started this. There is a lot of ground to make up. I think we will all enjoy when numbers come out again.
Sounds right, since they were already in process by the time we found out. I was hoping it was a too small buy out offer that was refused. Thanks.
I think that as consistently hard as the MMs treat this stock, it reflects the underlying value. It is really the inverse of what it should be. It makes me that much more determined not to sell anytime soon. And neither hemi nor Keith have any credibility issues. To believe otherwise is just not wise.
Oversold and for no good reason!
I bought another 2200 at .24
But it is, cmf showing accumulation, though decreasing level because longs are having less funds to continue buying up the float. I will be buying more myself. And you, the only bagholder on the board, should average down. Good luck to you.
Wrong----AGAIN-----Jag. Price has dropped after two previous prs, both which were positive to longs. And longs, by definition, are not worried about getting a pr every other day but the general direction and management of the company and its fundamentals. All of these are excellent for hemi.
and some are here with very questionable motives and agendas