If I was short the stock, I would have no problem telling you I was. In fact I would probably be quite proud of myself at this point in time.

No, I am not short the stock. Maybe something about your inherent character prevents you from believing that some people just have an open mind and are ethical in nature. Do not assume that everyone thinks the way you do. There are good people in this world.

EOM

EOM

Tell the "bashers" how to short this stock legally and your words may have merit one day. There may be a few people here that are short the stock, but do not assume you know a person's motive.

There are hundreds of longs who admit they own the stock who are pumping the stock every day, so who are they to judge even if someone was short this stock and posting their opinion?

If someone illegally shorted the stock then I have a big problem with that. If they shorted the stock within the law, then more power to them and yes, they have as much right to post opinions as shareholders do.

"How was a guy that has no assets planning to RETIRE in 3 Months?" - neom2006

That is pretty funny. I am embarrassed for letting that thought slip by.

Things that make you go, "hmmmmmmmmm."

CSHD delisted?

Sorry to sound noobish, but this stock continues to lead me through previously uncharted waters.

It seems all press releases were removed for CSHD on Yahoo. Is this because it was removed from the OTCBB? If that is the case why does yahoo still show cshd.ob as a valid ticker?

I wish there were regulations in place that would force PRs, form 144s, etc. to follow a stock through symbol changes and listing changes. It makes it very easy for information to be "hidden" so that new investors cannot follow the true history of a company.

What evidence do you have about JesusPower saying to buy the stock? I would be very curious to hear more on this. This is my last post for the day though.

Have any "private" stock offerings been made to anyone?

Class Actions.

"Class action complaints can be drafted from admissions made by former officers who enter guilty pleas, or from (unproven) allegations taken from SEC complaints and press releases. Pending government investigations not only make it easier for plaintiffs to sue, but may subject those under investigation to discovery that they may prefer not to provide until the SEC and/or criminal charges are resolved."

http://www.wilmerhale.com

http://www.wilmerhale.com/publications/whPubsDetail.aspx?publication=1513

Pretty good read.

I suppose the people who bash all day could just say they don't have to prove things because of national security or because you do not have the super-duper top-secret decoder ring that is necessary for viewing the evidence. Maybe they refuse to prove stuff because they have non-disclosure agreements.

Please check boxes of Captain Crunch cerial for your super-duper top-secret decoder ring so that you too will be privy to future basher information.

I suggest reading section I. (2)b

I also recommend that HSM read section I. (4)

http://www.fbi.gov/publications/financial/fcs_report052005/fcs_report052005.htm

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What "business" did Rufus have in Dallas? Surely he and Mike could have just talked on the phone. I am just curious you know.

Guys, ease up on Simon.

I really do not think Simon and Rufus know each other. Keep in mind that Simon is one person. His show has grown tremendously and I am sure he gets bombarded all day long with messages. At some point it would become very annoying to try to answer everyone and he does have a life outside of talking about CSHD.

It is possible that someone on either the side of CSHD or the SEC has asked him to remove certain interviews or to not comment on certain things.

If Simon is bias, then it's probably because he owns shares in the company and because he wants to maintain a relationship with certain people to continue getting high ratings for his show.

As for HSM, the question to ask is what point the owner and moderators owned shares in CSHD and at what point they disclosed those positions. I hope the SEC will do a full investigation and subpeona their trading activity, their IP addresses, their aliases and all the IP addresses and identities of key people who post on the HSM message board. I have no doubt in my mind that all things are not right over there.

I was told that HSM is "privately owned" and in "Canada" so they believe that certain regulations do not apply to them.

Who are you warning? Am I to believe you actually care about if someone makes or loses money in this stock? Do you expect me to believe you care if someone else makes money here? Why would you care if anyone else buys or sells? Are you the good fairy looking out for other people?

Let me put it this way. If you own this stock and are promoting it on message boards, you are, without any question, guilty of the evil you are trying to accuse "bashers" of.

Do you not see the irony in that? You own the stock and you post messages to support your position.

How would that be different from someone who was short the stock and was posting to support a short position?

One thing though. I do not hold a position in the stock or have anything to gain financially, so if you accuse me, you are accusing me wrongly of something that you are no doubt guilty of.

Invisibility cloak could become a reality. Maybe you could create a business plan similar to that of what you would find in a prospectus for an IPO and see if Rufus will fund this project.

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/discoveries/2006-10-19-invisibility-cloak_x.htm

Have you seen me advise any person to sell or buy this stock? You have no idea what motivates me or who I am, so please do not assume you have any idea what goes through my mind.

Did Tim say no 10K would ever be filed or that a combined 10K would not be filed? Can you refer to the post?

I will admit that I didn't expect any 10K to be filed in regard to CVSU. I suspected that if any 10K was filed, it would be for Furia only. - I guess that would have been too ugly though.

HSM should take heed in regard to section I. (4)

I am against illegal shorting or manipulation in any way. I guess I have never really stated this, but maybe I should.

I am strongly against illegal shorting of a stock or market manipulation by anyone. I do think market makers are actively involved in criminal activity. I think the corruption exists on many levels and in many departments.

I am against anyone who pumps or bashes a stock without fully disclosing their position before doing so.

I would be against anyone slandering a stock or pumping a stock who was being paid or compensated in any way.

I am against corruption in any form.

I am not short. I am not supporting shorts. I am not long or in support of anyone long.

I am for truth and justice only.

To person who just PMed me:

I can't do a private reply. Are you referring to a civil case by the SEC or a criminal case by a grany jury? There is a big difference. To my knowledge, a case was filed against Tim Miles by the SEC (that is NOT criminal and is not an "indictment"). I do not know how that case ended but it's not criminal.

The case against Rufus is not criminal either. The SEC is filing a civil action agaist Rufus seeking damages for fraud. That is not punishable by criminal law in that court.

If the SEC chooses, they can recommened that the U.S. Attorney's office seeks criminal charges from a grany jury.

I am not an attorney, so do not quote me on any of this. This is just my understanding of the system.

I think you will enjoy this article:

http://www.fbi.gov/publications/financial/fcs_report052005/fcs_report052005.htm

If the SEC determines criminal activity may have taken place they will give the evidence to the U.S. Attorney's office to present to a grand jury. They may also choose to share evidence will the FBI. Normally, to my knowledge, the FBI does not actively pursue an investigation while the SEC has an investigation open.

For those interested, I think you will find this a good read.

http://www.fbi.gov/publications/financial/fcs_report052005/fcs_report052005.htm



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Our-Street was never indicted to my knowledge. If someone can prove my statement wrong, please do.

The SEC does not file criminal charges. Charges by the SEC are of a civil nature. "Indicted" means that a person was charged with a federal crime, normally by a grany jury.

The SEC does not "indict" anyone to my knowledge.

I would appreciate if Simon would get that straight rather than alluding to Tim as having lied about not being "indicted." I think the question was asked wrong and he was playing the same game that he felt Rufus was playing.

I am so disgusted with what is going on with CSHD that I refuse to participate any longer, but I wanted to tell you that the decoder ring comment cracked me up. I can't even listen to Simon's show any longer.

I am going to recommend that you seek professional counseling.

You crack me up. Do you ever watch the show cops? Every single time the criminals lie. They say, no, nothing is in my car, you can check it. Then when the cops find something they say I didn't know that was in there, I borrowed this car from a friend. Then they find some in their pockets and they say well I bought this for a friend but I don't use the stuff myself. Then they find track marks on their arms and they say well you got me but I was going to quit tomorrow, just give me one chance, I can't afford to go back to prison...

Blah blah blah...

What did you expect him to say... Sorry guys, I made the whole thing up?

Do you realize the irony in what Hitup has done? You people all bombarded government officials, including the SEC in regard to shorting. Rufus did a PR accusing a major brokerage firm of illegal activity. Do you people not realize the attention you are creating? Now you are getting the FBI involved? I really don't think Rufus wants the FBI looking at him, but I suppose it's too late now. Nice job Hitup, I'm sure Rufus is going to love having the FBI on him.

Have them call me too please.

Send me your phone number please, this is my last post.

Are you Don from HSM?

Did HSM give out personal information of bashers?

If anyone has information in regard to whether, or not, HSM has passed out personal information in regard to IP addresses, email addresses and other personal information, please state it to me. Rufus mentioned in his interview that he didn't even know how a message board worked before recently and then last night he sounded like an expert on what personal information message boards had on users: stating he wished they had more than IP addresses and email addresses.

Cindy,

Surely you realized the woman that called Simon claiming to be LadyTrader was not LadyTrader. The woman who called was being told what to say in the background and she obviously had no real clue what any of this was about. To me it was an obvious setup to try to give credibility to LadyTrader being a woman.

The SEC needs to request a TRO against HSM and subpeona HSM immediately for certain IP addresses. They need to take a close look at Phil, Tut and ATCSPaul for starters. Then they need to take those IP addresses and check for aliases that used the same IP addresses.

By the way, there is a rumor that a mod at HSM was giving out IP addresses of bashers. That is a very serious crime if that is true. In my opinion, Rufus hinted to this in the interview when he mentioned needing more than an IP address and an email address. Rufus already admitted he knew nothing about message boards before all of this and now suddenly he is an expert in what personal information HSM has on the people who post there?

If anyone can provide information that HSM has passed out personal information of bashers, I will put a class action law suit into play. Please pass any information to me.

Don't get me started on HSM.

Northstar the Lost death threat. I took what Northstar said as a death threat. He also posted on HSM that he was not kidding. He really has no defense at this point. I would report it to the FBI. Rufus stated that he has spoken with mercenaries and it seemed to me that Northstar was asking if he should act and Rufus said yes.

Northstar The Lost
HSM Addict

Join Date: May 2006
Location: Formerly New York City, NY and now Atlanta, GA
Posts: 2,213 Quote:
Originally Posted by some_extra_dough
Northstar, that message you sent in was hilarious.. I have a feeling you really weren't kidding..


I wasn't kidding.
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Rufus did mention mercenaries. Did you catch that part? A couple of the people who made the threats from HSM show to be in Atlanta and at least one of them posted that he was not kidding about his threat. The FBI can nail that guy, case closed.

Picture of Ben Stanley? Does anyone have a picture of Ben or can they get one at the court house? I have been tracking pump and dumps for several years (not saying CSHD is a pump and dump - that is up to the court to decide) and I want to see if I recognize the guy.

Thanks.

None of us are perfect and I would like to think I have very strong morals. I did not hear the part where he joked about murder. That is disturbing to me. My gut tells me that he is a con arist and it disgusts me. Did you read about the Weida scam? Weida was that company the Mitch Sepaniak was the CEO of.

They (Mitch was never indicted or even charged to my knowledge so "they" means the CFO and the largest shareholder) were charged with manipulating the share price to $5 a share and then selling private placements to churches and the elderly for $3 per share. Don't quote me on the details though, I am summarizing from memory. Just Google Weida scam and SEC and you will get the details. You have to dig a little deeper to get information on Mitch.

I think people like that should get life in prison with no chance of parole. I do not have any place in my heart for criminals.

The difference here is that Rufus is innocent until proven guilty whether we like that fact or not and his family is not to blame.

Please be respectful. You can state your opinion without dirty insults.

Now that is funny! Cindy I can always count on your for a good laugh without you crossing the line or poor taste or morality.

I want a good laugh out of all of this as much as the next person. Even Elliot McDonald made me laugh a bit when he called Simon and I do not like the guy. I am willing to laugh at both sides of this, but keep it in good taste.

You have lost all respect from me and I will not acknowledge you again without an apology to Rufus and his family. Do you have children?

It makes complete sense! Look how many "death" threats the man has already received. The U.S. is a litigious society where even a cesspool of criminals have the right to sue people. He is left with no choice but to use every disclaimer possible. Even frivilous law suits cost people a lot of money and he is trying to avoid headaches.

You are an intelligent man and you know this to be true already so stop the diversion games.

Blame Rufus, not yourself. Faith and trust are not crimes. It's a disturbing society we live in where we have to doubt the word of a CEO.