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You think these are "correctable with no criminal intent"????
Wanna make a bet who will be proven wrong and will disappear??
Read these allegations carefully - I doubt the OSC will be apologizing - or the so-called "bashers".
IN THE MATTER OF THE SECURITIES ACT
R.S.O. 1990, c.S.5, AS AMENDED
- and -
SULJA BROS. BUILDING SUPPLIES, LTD. (NEVADA),
SULJA BROS. BUILDING SUPPLIES LTD.,
KORE INTERNATIONAL MANAGEMENT INC.,
PETER VUCICEVICH AND ANDREW DeVRIES
STATEMENT OF ALLEGATIONS
OF STAFF OF THE ONTARIO SECURITIES COMMISSION
Staff of the Ontario Securities Commission (“Staff”) make the following allegations:
Parties
1. Sulja Bros. Building Supplies Ltd. (“Sulja Ontario”) is a company incorporated in Ontario in 1987 with a registered office in Harrow, Ontario. Sulja Ontario is in the building supplies business and has been operating in the Windsor area for a number of years.
2. Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd. (Nevada) (“Sulja Nevada”) is a company incorporated in May 2006, in the State of Nevada with a registered officer in Las Vegas, Nevada. Sulja Ontario and Sulja Nevada are collectively referred to in this Statement of Allegations as “Sulja Bros.”
3. Peter Vucicevich (“Vucicevich”) is a resident of Ontario. Vucicevich is the former Chief Executive Officer of at least one of the Sulja Bros. companies. Vucicevich is also the director and a majority shareholder of Kore International Management Inc. (“Kore”).
4. Kore is a company incorporated in Ontario with a registered office in Windsor, Ontario. Kore has a relationship with Sulja Bros. through Vucicevich.
5. Andrew DeVries (“DeVries”) is an American resident in Texas. DeVries is an associate of Vucicevich and is also affiliated with both Kore and Sulja Bros.
Manipulative Trading of Sulja Nevada Shares
6. Sulja Bros. is quoted on the Pink Sheets, an over-the-counter quotation system in the United States. It is not listed for trading on any exchange or trading system in Canada.
7. From or about September 2004 to August 2005, Vucicevich set up trading accounts at two Canadian discount brokers using employees of Kore and/or members of the Sulja family as nominees (the “Nominee Accounts”).
8. Between August 2006 and November 2006, Vucicevich and DeVries directed trading in the Nominee Accounts as follows: Sulja Nevada shares were received in large quantities into the Nominee Accounts by journal entry from Transfer Online, a transfer agent in Portland, Oregon, and were thereafter sold from the Nominee Accounts. Vucicevich and De Vries instructed the account holders of the Nominee Accounts when to trade, at what price to trade, and how many shares to trade at a given price.
9. The shares were received into the Nominee Accounts from Sulja Nevada’s treasury either directly or through Kore. In both circumstances, the trading constituted a distribution which requires in each instance the issuance of a prospectus receipt by the Commission for the securities of Sulja Nevada or a proper exemption under Ontario securities law. No such receipt has been issued nor have the Respondents demonstrated the existence of a proper exemption from the requirement, contrary to section 53 of the Act.
10. Within the Nominee Accounts, the effect of the trading in securities of Sulja Nevada as directed by Vucicevich and DeVries and as facilitated by Sulja Bros. and Kore, was to maintain a certain share price in Sulja Nevada, resulting in a misleading appearance of trading activity and an artificial price level for the shares of Sulja Nevada in breach of section 126.1 of the Act.
11. The proceeds of the trading in securities of Sulja Bros. from the Nominee Accounts as described above are approximately $7.8 million (US).
Misleading Disclosure
12. Sulja Bros. issued press releases dated August 11, 2006 and August 23, 2006, in which each time it stated that it was negotiating with KPMG LLP (“KPMG”) and PriceWaterhouseCoopers (“PWC”) to handle all future SEC filings and reporting. The press releases further represented that those firms would be conducting an audit of certain transactions and that the audited financial were “upcoming”.
13. Sulja Bros. issued a press release dated September 5, 2006, stating that it has a contract for building materials in the Middle East which will produce annual revenues of $3.5 million.
14. The representations made in the press releases described above are untrue. Neither KPMG nor PWC have or have had any involvement with Sulja Bros. Furthermore, the contracts in the Middle East referred to in the press release dated September 5, 2006 do not exist.
15. Vucicevich and DeVries are responsible for Sulja’s improper disclosure and for the misrepresentations made in the press releases.
16. By issuing disclosure that contained statements that were in a material respect misleading or untrue, Sulja Bros., Vucicevich and De Vries are in breach of section 126.2 of the Act.
Conduct Contrary to Ontario Securities Law and Contrary to the Public Interest
17. The Respondents have issued false press releases contrary to section 126.2 of the Act that misrepresent the business of Sulja Bros. and its prospects.
18. At the same time, the Respondents have traded or have caused to be traded, large numbers of shares of Sulja Nevada to third parties in a manner which constituted distributions for which no preliminary prospectus or prospectus were filed nor a receipt issued by the Director, contrary to section 53 of the Act.
19. The trading directed by Vucicevich and De Vries and facilitated by Sulja Bros. and Kore have created a misleading appearance of trading activity and an artificial price for the shares of Sulja Nevada contrary to section 126.1 of the Act.
20. The Respondents’ conduct was contrary to the public interest and harmful to the integrity of the Ontario capital markets.
DATED at Toronto this 27 th day of December, 2006.
3 nice properties??? Hopefully not made of straw or sticks. Bricks ok if not in California....Property is a good thing.
Here you go Wolfie!
This link will allow you to open the other docs filed against SLJB..
Posted by: cindyyoohoo
In reply to: janniebgood who wrote msg# 231903
Date:12/31/2006 1:57:03 PM
Post #of 231943
http://www.osc.gov.on.ca/Enforcement/Proceedings/AlphaListing/ep_s_index.jsp
Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd. (Nevada)
December 29, 2006 Notice from the Office of the Secretary
December 27, 2006 Notice of Hearing
December 27, 2006 Statement of Allegations
December 22, 2006 Temporary Order
Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd.
December 29, 2006 Notice from the Office of the Secretary
December 27, 2006 Notice of Hearing
December 27, 2006 Statement of Allegations
December 22, 2006 Temporary Order
IN THE MATTER OF THE SECURITIES ACT,
R.S.O. 1990, c. S.5, AS AMENDED
- AND -
IN THE MATTER OF
SULJA BROS. BUILDING SUPPLIES, LTD. (NEVADA),
SULJA BROS. BUILDING SUPPLIES LTD.,
KORE INTERNATIONAL MANAGEMENT INC.,
PETER VUCICEVICH AND ANDREW DeVRIES
TEMPORARY ORDER
Sections 127(1) and 127(5)
WHEREAS it appears to the Ontario Securities Commission (the “Commission”) that:
1. Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd. (Nevada) (“Sulja Nevada”) is a Nevada Corporation and its common shares are listed on the Pink Sheets electronic quotation and trading system for OTC securities (the “Pink Sheets”);
2. Sulja Nevada’s principal asset is its interest in Sulja Bros. Building Supplies Ltd., an Ontario Corporation (“Sulja Ontario”);
3. Kore International Management (“Kore”) is an Ontario Corporation controlled by Petar Vucicevich (“Vucicevich”) that has a relationship with Sulja Nevada and Sulja Ontario;
4. Andrew DeVries (“DeVries”) and Vucicevich have a business relationship with Sulja Nevada and DeVries assisted Vucicevich with share distributions of Sulja Nevada;
5. Trading in shares of Sulja Nevada is being directed by Vucicevich and DeVries in nominee brokerage accounts in Ontario;
6. A prospectus receipt has not been issued for the Sulja Nevada securities, contrary to section 53 of the Securities Act, R.S.O., c. S.5, as amended (the “Act”);
7. Sulja Nevada, Vucicevich and DeVries may have participated in trades of common shares of Sulja Nevada resulting in a misleading appearance of trading activity and an artificial price level for the shares, contrary to Ontario securities law;
8. In or around August 2006, at the direction of Vucicevich and/or DeVries, Sulja Nevada issued press releases that contained misleading or untrue material statements in respect of Sulja Nevada’s relationship with PWC and KPMG, contrary to Ontario securities law; and
9. Staff are conducting an investigation into the trading of the securities of Sulja Nevada.
AND WHEREAS the Commission is of the opinion that the time required to conclude a hearing could be prejudicial to the public interest as set out in s. 127(5) of the Act;
AND WHEREAS the Commission is of the opinion that it is in the public interest to make this Order;
IT IS ORDERED that, pursuant to clause 2 of ss. 127(1) and ss. 127(5) of the Act, trading in the securities of Sulja Nevada cease;
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that pursuant to clause 3 of ss. 127(1) of the Act, any exemptions contained in Ontario securities law do not apply to the Respondents ; and
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that pursuant to ss. 127(6) of the Act, this Order shall take effect immediately and shall expire on the 15 th day after its making unless extended by Order of the Commission.
DATED at Toronto this 22 nd day of December, 2006.
David Wilson
HA! You never stop learning about Pinkies! Something new and creative tried everyday. Just like the call for the NOBO list that has replaced the Intent to Acquire another company. Until I see a few more CEO's in Orange Jumpsuits, I am far from entering a post-graduate course. Heck not to mention the disappearing acts of the greatest pumpers of all time - MODS - that's another area I hope to see more SEC action on. There is plenty to learn about Pinkies and believe it or not, plenty to learn about the pumpers that make it all happen. I barely have 6 months under my belt - hardly ready to graduate.
http://www.osc.gov.on.ca/Enforcement/Proceedings/AlphaListing/ep_s_index.jsp
Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd. (Nevada)
December 29, 2006 Notice from the Office of the Secretary
December 27, 2006 Notice of Hearing
December 27, 2006 Statement of Allegations
December 22, 2006 Temporary Order
Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd.
December 29, 2006 Notice from the Office of the Secretary
December 27, 2006 Notice of Hearing
December 27, 2006 Statement of Allegations
December 22, 2006 Temporary Order
IN THE MATTER OF THE SECURITIES ACT,
R.S.O. 1990, c. S.5, AS AMENDED
- AND -
IN THE MATTER OF
SULJA BROS. BUILDING SUPPLIES, LTD. (NEVADA),
SULJA BROS. BUILDING SUPPLIES LTD.,
KORE INTERNATIONAL MANAGEMENT INC.,
PETER VUCICEVICH AND ANDREW DeVRIES
TEMPORARY ORDER
Sections 127(1) and 127(5)
WHEREAS it appears to the Ontario Securities Commission (the “Commission”) that:
1. Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd. (Nevada) (“Sulja Nevada”) is a Nevada Corporation and its common shares are listed on the Pink Sheets electronic quotation and trading system for OTC securities (the “Pink Sheets”);
2. Sulja Nevada’s principal asset is its interest in Sulja Bros. Building Supplies Ltd., an Ontario Corporation (“Sulja Ontario”);
3. Kore International Management (“Kore”) is an Ontario Corporation controlled by Petar Vucicevich (“Vucicevich”) that has a relationship with Sulja Nevada and Sulja Ontario;
4. Andrew DeVries (“DeVries”) and Vucicevich have a business relationship with Sulja Nevada and DeVries assisted Vucicevich with share distributions of Sulja Nevada;
5. Trading in shares of Sulja Nevada is being directed by Vucicevich and DeVries in nominee brokerage accounts in Ontario;
6. A prospectus receipt has not been issued for the Sulja Nevada securities, contrary to section 53 of the Securities Act, R.S.O., c. S.5, as amended (the “Act”);
7. Sulja Nevada, Vucicevich and DeVries may have participated in trades of common shares of Sulja Nevada resulting in a misleading appearance of trading activity and an artificial price level for the shares, contrary to Ontario securities law;
8. In or around August 2006, at the direction of Vucicevich and/or DeVries, Sulja Nevada issued press releases that contained misleading or untrue material statements in respect of Sulja Nevada’s relationship with PWC and KPMG, contrary to Ontario securities law; and
9. Staff are conducting an investigation into the trading of the securities of Sulja Nevada.
AND WHEREAS the Commission is of the opinion that the time required to conclude a hearing could be prejudicial to the public interest as set out in s. 127(5) of the Act;
AND WHEREAS the Commission is of the opinion that it is in the public interest to make this Order;
IT IS ORDERED that, pursuant to clause 2 of ss. 127(1) and ss. 127(5) of the Act, trading in the securities of Sulja Nevada cease;
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that pursuant to clause 3 of ss. 127(1) of the Act, any exemptions contained in Ontario securities law do not apply to the Respondents ; and
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that pursuant to ss. 127(6) of the Act, this Order shall take effect immediately and shall expire on the 15 th day after its making unless extended by Order of the Commission.
DATED at Toronto this 22 nd day of December, 2006.
David Wilson
_____________________
Best list of red flags I've seen posted - compiled by Jeff Mitchell from SI. Note Red Flag number 10... LOL!
Posted by: cindyyoohoo
In reply to: None
Date:10/19/2006 6:39:55 PM
Post #of 141386
All I can do is lay out for folks here what the Top 10 red flags are for identifying possible such schemes (in no particular order):
1. Has the same business "plan" been tried before (with obviously no success)? This could be hawking the same patents, medicine, device, software, etc.
2. Has the company hired any paid touts? Easily identified by a disclaimer that said person was paid in stock or cash by a third party for issuing the report.
3. Has the company had a history of failed acquisitions (double red flag if they were intended to be wholly owned subsidiaries)? Acquisitions of "real" companies makes for good press and often misdirects investors attention. Every company has a price so it's not hard to wave $$$ and at least get them to the table. Usually after doing their DD these targets run for the hills and you never hear about them again.
4. After an acquisition, does the company immediately open multiple (as opposed to one) lines of credit? Double red flag if the CEO or controlling shareholder buys a new house or car following such financing.
5. Has the company of its principals ever run other publicly traded companies that have either failed or, worse, declared bankruptcy? Double red flag if they've done this after an acquisition as this means they've taken down what was, by definition, a viable profitable company with them.
6. Has the company ever fired its auditor? Double red flag if more than once. Triple red flag if they announce an audit is near completion yet can't or won't name their auditor. The collapse of Arthur Andersen has made auditors skittish and the days of rubber stamping what companies give you is ancient history.
7. Does the CEO or any of the principles own at least one other company that he uses to "lend" money to the company in return for stock? Double red flag if the other company is publicly traded. Triple red flag if the loan is forgiven.
8. Does the company blame its problems on the evil bashers, manipulating MMs, or naked shorts? This is almost always an alibi why their own selling is making the share price decline. Double RED flag if the stock is being hyped on multiple message boards by the same people. Triple red flag if any message boards have more than one thread or a "bulls only" thread.
9. Is the company threatening to sue any or all of the so-called bashers? INFINITE red flags is they end up doing so.
10. Have any of the bashers ever been successful in aiding the SEC in shutting down a publicly traded company? Double red flag if multiple bashers have such notches in their belts. Triple red flag if any of these bashers have multiple notches in their belts. INFINITE red flags if JANICE SHELL shows up.
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Relax Frank - I don't plan to post anything further about Hemmi - it is clear to me that he doesn't own or operate HSM. I couldn't care less. don't worry about MY motives, worry more about the people that are lying and deceiving people with misinformation about the company. I am and should be a nonissue as far as the company goes. No need to explain anything -- like I said Dallas and all where just another group of MOMO players. My sole purpose here was an observation as to the workings of a pennystock - I just happened to land on this one. I do believe the SEC and the DOJ will be looking into the pump action that took place on this stock - after all the SEC according to Rufus was screaming that very claim - and I do believe that Rufus was NOT the only one involved here. I do believe it will include the message board postings as well.
Do what you must in your "private" chat room, but don't think for one moment that type of behavior goes unnoticed.
Hey Abby, was that you buying those $.05 shares??? LOL! ask and you shall receive??? That's the thing about the grey market - it's easier to manipulate than you think.
Posted by: cindyyoohoo
In reply to: abbytraderwin who wrote msg# 139392
Date:12/26/2006 11:55:42 PM
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Psst Abby! Happy HOLLERdays! Here's your freakin' $.10 share you demanded. How about $.05 by New Years??? Might have to wait for the DOJ to make that happen. I'll see if I can speed up the process.
Best to you - I almost have my hearing back - my eardrums have finally stopped bleeding from all your YELLING at the bashers!
Dallas gave me a little something to "work" with - he better think twice before he challenges me. Remember that SubPennyRadio "interview" when Hemmi said he was owner/operator of HSM, and Dallas "corrected" my statement? Well check out the dates on Hemmi's HSF site - the joined dates are well AFTER that interview where the HSMers "ran with it". ( I am sure Dallas will be around to give me the "excuse" on that one)
Seems it just another bunch of MOMO's. Nothing wrong with that - trying to make a little money. Loved their other "plays" - PAVC and FGFC and CSHD are three of the four tickers they have on their website - Hot Stock Forum. (snicker) Actually it a decent looking site - other than the lack of traffic.
Brazillionrosewood is a person of interest to me. He seems hooked into that Ecowood Storyline - perhaps the reason for the alias?. I might follow that one up.
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Psst Abby! Happy HOLLERdays! Here's your freakin' $.10 share you demanded. How about $.05 by New Years??? Might have to wait for the DOJ to make that happen. I'll see if I can speed up the process.
Best to you - I almost have my hearing back - my eardrums have finally stopped bleeding from all your YELLING at the bashers!
No connectioin with those names to Terry yet---but I do believe there is ANOTHER religious connection - Terry Howell and Paige Howell are foster parents - according to bio on Law firm page. Terry Howell is a deacon at the " Church of the Epiphany". the same???
Fields, Howell, Athans & McLaughlin : Attorneys at Law : Terry R ...
Atlanta Gas Light Co. v. Aetna Cas. and Sur. Co., 68 F.3d 409 (11th Cir. 1995). Pro Bono Work Terry and his wife Paige are foster parents, ...
www.fieldshowell.com/attorneys_howell.html - 16k - Cached - Similar pages
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By Deacon Terry Howell. I am delighted to be serving with you at the Church of the Epiphany. Paige and I have felt embraced ...
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Thanks! Something I can work with for my "project". ;)
How about this one??? teehee - maybe I will back off - feeling a bit fiesty after my time off....
dallas66
Sep 13th, 2006, 07:28 PM
I am on paltalk and heard it as well...bluediamonds is accurate.------------------------------------------------------------------------
check this site out....maybe "John" knows of this...
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:-syOEkxKxeYJ:www.indexsignal.com/vb/showthread.php%3Fp%3D543906+...
NO WAY!!!! HE STARTED IT!!! that was a poor example! I WILL find another!!! NO ONE gets away with talking DOWN to me! NO ONE!!!
His BAD, he will pay the price! LOL!
Hey, look at this... Dec 1st, 2006, 03:45 PM
phatboi31
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
Posts: 2,913
Quote:
Originally Posted by TgasTT
Rufus answered a question about shareholders ousting officers from the company if they had majority shares and he said they can't. Purpose of SC waw to represent the shareholders intent or concerns which officers would review.
Yet, it happened.
The share price went up because of the hostile takeover. The shareholders did this because they got what they wanted to see... a new CEO and lawyers, which IMO haven't shown anything yet. Yet, many shareholders are already swearing by them.
The new CEO did attain lawyers; Fields, Howell, Athans, & McLaughlin "FHAM" with Mr. Terry R Howell as the company's corporate and litigation attorney. Already more then Rufus did. Its just not about trying to draw out the shorts, its about acting professional. I doubt that we will see TUT/John posting on HSM again but I think he will use the S/C to keep us up todate with news regarding the company. Rufus will probably be back as the CEO of CSHD only after the mess is taken care of. His knowledge is needed to access the bonds and to keep the company running. He is a very smart man in his field but a bad CEO of a company.
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Hey, did you keep a list of the NOBO people? Wondered if Howell, the lawyer, was on that list.
Hey Janice!
I do believe these stories never DIE!!!
Yes, without a doubt the LOGS will be raised from the dead!
Brazilianrosewood from HSM and SubPennyradio fame seems well connected to the LOG story. I do believe that will be the next attempt to "salvage" this stock. Carbon Credits galore! My best guess - they will come up with some other source for "financing" the Ecowood deal. That was the original plan for FHAL - unfortunately they were not happy with Rufus bringing it from a 20 cent stock to a $4 stock - so much for being thankful to Rufus for his pumping ability. I've read a few posts eluding to the "value" of resubmerging the submerged logs, not to mention the carbon credit play. Bodi/Mike et al. have a plan and it ain't over yet!
LadyTrader is either:
1. on a roll
2. fell off the wagon
Originally Posted by LadyTrader
i have 1 also.......
sometime in the near future , ( say by spring )....
the law firm of Fields, Howell, Athans, & McLaughlin "FHAM" with Mr. Terry R Howell as the company's corporate and litigation attorney takes care of our lil SEC probs.
J.A. working with his team ( hell even rufus might be in that mix)... get things rollin....
MPR Source, Inc. as the company's public relations firm starts to release some truly meaty PR's... ( thx to con carne for that saying )..6 to 1 PR is released to all brokers ...8K, 10K , 10Q.... S4 , etc..... we reopen on the OTCBB with 3 or more MM's ( none of which are short) at 5.00 or higher bringing in the institutional buying..( 5.00 being the target for them ).... the shorts now start filing to jump in the action and start buying to cover and force the stock fly the 1st day......by weeks end we sit purty at 20.00 or higher....
Hey Dallas - MY apologies! but not for my evaluation of YOU! Hemmi did misrepresent himself on SubPenny - I don't know what HSF is - he was the one I called a liar for allowing Simon to pass along the perception that he "owned" HSM. So since he did indeed fess up, my apologize is to HIM, NOT YOU. Although he did misrepresent a few facts - and as you said - they "ran with it".
Have you learned anything yet from this fiasco?
Just did a quicky HSF google - I see Hemmi is involved with "Hot Stock Forums". Say Hi to William - who doesn't Tell it like it is!
Bashers! Dallas claims he never "pumps" - you decide!
Pump or No Pump???
dallas66
Sep 25th, 2006, 01:34 PM
Don't underestimate the intrinsic value of covert power. Per Mr. Harris, he has institutional buyers waiting. If in fact this is as he says, the upward pressure from those forces will control the movement of the stock and dictate the direction and flow. Fighting an unchangeble force will not be in the best interest of the mm. They will have no choice but to follow as directed.------------------------------------------------------------------------
<<Some of us...and I will repeat....SOME of us are here for one thing and one thing only...to make money. >>
Hmmm, I hope you don't mean HERE as in HERE with CSHD! Good Grief!!!
Let ME get something "across to you" - I've read your posts - and you are full of it! The postings on XKEM was the tip off as well as the other "stocks". MOMO away!
Do you happen to know Hemmi from that Thunder forum??? Pretty pathetic statistics! snicker
Dallas, while I'm at it - I find it interesting the way you "THINK"...planting that "seed" of a $7.21 mark - you are as bad as Phil pulling that crap.
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dallas66
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[quote=frank021474]Ok- I know this is so easy a caveman could do it but someone who might know feel free to PM me or shed some light on this topic.
If the current OS for the company is 159mil- and they do a TPR, issuing 7x the shares held as of 10/16 for the shareholders would that not put the OS up to over a Billion?
Companies that have that many shares in the market are not usually the big 30-50.00 pps type stocks.
I know Johnny is at the door and wants his two dollars (6:1) but while we wait for that to be issued it makes sense to analyze the reprecussions of the new shares.
Are they already a part of the current OS?
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Frank...would not the supposed assets of ~$7b cover that amount of shares? I think that would put us around the ~$7.21 mark mentiond quite some time back. Just a thought
Dallas - I never called YOU a liar! I was referring to Hemmi - read the following posts. and If you need further evidence of LIES that were told by HSMers I could repost them all night - but I won't bother, since ALL the bashers here in the "Festering Pool" are familiar enough with PHIL, LadyTrader, Hititup, Bodie, Dogman and the rest of that deceiving bunch. I have NEVER lied and have absolutely no reason to lie. And if you know anything about me, I will be waiting for an apology from YOU. I never said YOU were a liar.
Posted by: cindyyoohoo
In reply to: hemmi25 who wrote msg# 82495
Date:9/25/2006 6:49:20 PM
Post #of 141231
Ah, I don't think it makes any difference does it? Does it change the PR that Rufus put out? No. I just take offense when I see a bunch in juveniles come in here and insult a Dr. for no good reason.
Just curious - there was some guy on pennystock radio.com last week named hemis or HEMMI or something - was that you? I t was a great program discussing CSHD. James was there too. Was that you?
Posted by: hemmi25
In reply to: cindyyoohoo who wrote msg# 82501
Date: 9/25/2006 6:50:22 PM
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It was
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Posted by: cindyyoohoo
In reply to: hemmi25 who wrote msg# 82504
Date: 9/25/2006 6:55:37 PM
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PERFECT!!!!!!!!
So let me get this straight - you are the owner/operator of HSM as Simon pointed out, and you pitched the CSHD story, you own the stock, you oversee the mods on the cheerleaders board and you come over here to IHUB to trash a Dr. M who seems to be raining on your parade? Geez
P.S. for those guys that know the secret - I building up the courage before I say it... give me a few more posts.
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Posted by: hemmi25
In reply to: cindyyoohoo who wrote msg# 82509
Date: 9/25/2006 6:59:31 PM
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With all due respect Cindy! I never bashed Mensah. I said i dont believe Diamond1 is Mensah...That is all! If this offended you I'm sorry....I will mention this no more.
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Posted by: cindyyoohoo
In reply to: hemmi25 who wrote msg# 82514
Date: 9/25/2006 7:01:26 PM
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That's your excuse - if you obviously saw others were conversing with him as Dr. Mensah, why did you prance in here and tell him Bull****.
You knew EXACTLY who it was.
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LOL! Another LIAR from HSM - why doesn't that surprise me....
Hemmi posted to me he owned HSM and portrayed he was the owner on SubPenny - did ANYONE from HSM NOT lie on that Subpenny show??? Or did they "all run with it"??
I will never feel badly for people that outright LIE and DECEIVE others. Sometimes there is justice in the world...and I hope everyone does their part to see justice happens.
Too bad LadyTrader was banned from here - I would love to ask him about this post - so IN THE KNOW! Guess the TREEHOUSE people are still well connected!
Originally Posted by LadyTrader
its not a question of pulling out off the grey market.... its getting everything in order to move forward 1st..... once thats complete we have at least 3 MM's ready to go right now to get us back on the OTCBB....1 of the MM's is an old FHAL MM.... guess who?....hehe....they arent short much...so they are ready to file..just waiting on the company at this point to pull the trigger....
Hemmi25, you still out there?? Was curious as to you being an OWNER of HSM - did you really think it was the best idea to delete TUT's post as requested by John Arlitt - according to big mouth LadyTrader - who is no lady??? I think you did a BAD thing there - have you been subpoenaed yet for that little act???
Do you miss hyping CSHD on Subpenny? I miss all those characters! Especially RUFUS!
Posted by: cindyyoohoo
In reply to: hemmi25 who wrote msg# 82504
Date: 9/25/2006 6:55:37 PM
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PERFECT!!!!!!!!
So let me get this straight - you are the owner/operator of HSM as Simon pointed out, and you pitched the CSHD story, you own the stock, you oversee the mods on the cheerleaders board and you come over here to IHUB to trash a Dr. M who seems to be raining on your parade? Geez
P.S. for those guys that know the secret - I building up the courage before I say it... give me a few more posts.
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Looks like LadyTrader is out of his treehouse for more postings...never could keep his yapper shut...
Today, 05:35 PM #1901
LadyTrader
HSM Addict
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Florida,West Palm hurricane alley
Posts: 7,104
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boo Radley
Why did Tut's post count get reset? Are his old posts still on here?
J.A. asked the owner to remove all past posts...... good call IMO....
Intimidation techniques are not out of line either...case in point:
Posted by: Rufus Paul Harris
In reply to: None
Date:7/26/2006 11:48:53 AM
Post #of 141208
Communication Number: 252455777-072606-BOD
To: Poster Vitamin DD
Reference: Msg. 13936
Your post was brought to my attention by this board.
Sir or Madam, I do not know you or even know of you, but I believe that everyone deserves a chance to correct his mistakes, with that;
You are hereby notified that I, Rufus Paul Harris feels that you have violated my rights by your continued posting of abusive, harassing, defamatory, offensive, harmful and false statements.
It is hereby requested that you withdraw and cause to be withdrew any false statements that you have made about me or Conversion Solutions, Inc with in 48 hours of this post 12:00 pm Friday, July 28, 2006) or legal actions will be forthcoming. Any posting that the above named parties are addressed with abusive, harassing, defamatory, offensive, harmful and false statements is incorporated by this reference.
I feel that you have violated the telecommunications statute which prohibits anyone from using a telephone or a telecommunications device (includes any device or software that can be used to originate telecommunications or other types of communications that are transmitted, in whole or in part, by the Internet (as such term is defined in section 1104 of the Internet Tax Freedom Act (47 U.S.C. 151 note))) “without disclosing of his identity and with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass any person."
Feel free to contact myself or have your attorney to contact me to resolve this issue as follows prior to 12:00 pm Friday, July 28, 2006;
Sir or Madam, May you have an excellent day and GODSPEED
Rufus Paul Harris
Chairman & CEO
Conversion Solutions, Inc.
(OTC BB: FHAL)
125 TownPark Dr. Suite 300
Kennesaw, Georgia 30144
Office: 770-420-8270
Cell: 678-255-7650
KKill: Etre très prudent, Aucun procès est eu besoin de, juste avoir l'a enlevé.
Herr oder Frau, kann Sie haben einen ausgezeichneten Tag und GODSPEED
People like Rufus count on "a slap on the wrist" and feel the risk is worth it obviously - that is why there are so many scammers out there....
Posted by: Rufus Paul Harris
In reply to: Doniboy who wrote msg# 4810
Date:7/20/2006 2:28:56 AM
Post #of 141207
A direct answer to a post from an individual shareholder in a public forum with out prior PR allowing each and every shareholder the same opportunity as the poster would have to invest, could bring a SLAP on my hand by the SEC. But what I can do is answer an email that is directed to the company email.
Ask any question that you would like and I will respond, tonight.
Rufus Paul Harris
Conversion Solutions, Inc.
Direct line: 678-255-7650
Harris@cvsu.us
CVSU.US
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?Message_id=12130349&txt2find=slap
DTNOOB! sorry read: I was looking for you and respponded to my own message!
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=15786090
Out of all the people I "converse" with on this board - you, DTnoob, are most on my mind over the holidays. I wish you the very best and a safe speedy return. I believe in you and your fellow servicemen and know that you are doing the best for OUR country. Thank you for that.
To all the other CSHD followers (not just the cult!) Have a wonderful holiday with your families and say a prayer and spend a moment thanking the people like DTnoob who are actually doing something to make this world a better place.
Peace on Earth and Goodwill toward mankind.
Wait! Wait! You were suppose to tell us who you were and what you do!!! LOL!
Happy Holidays to you.
Time to reflect on the more important things in life - Health, happiness with friends and family.
I believe this was the Master Plan and it was promised by Rufus to happen in a matter of days, not months or years. People knew that "getting shorty" or the mother of all squeezes was suppose to take place but certainly nothing like this. I am sure people didn't sign on to Marches in Washington as suggested by TUT originally, or letter writing compaigns to their congressmen - they signed on for the free money, the once in a life time "gift" that Santa Rufus was suppose to hand out LONG ago. I loved when these people laughed at the very concept of "too good to be true". Wonder if they have learned that lesson?
Rufus Paul Harris Opening Statement:
RPH: Thank you for becoming a FHA shareholder, if you're new, and if you're long term, CONGRATULATIONS! Conversion Solutions is a diversified holdings company with 14 subsidiaries, all with a contract, whether through a joint venture corporation, or through just a wholly owned subsidiary through a stock swap transaction. Through contractual relationships, with each of these subsidiaries, what we have done is set them up , on a year and a half turn around to trade publicly in the company, in the market. Each individual corporation has an obligation for 9 months to consecutively maintain operations in a profitable manner. If they do not, it's set up to where the board will be restructured.
We will spin each and every one of them off, and every existing shareholder will receive the equivalent of ownership of CVSU in each one of the subsidiaries corporations. This means, by owning one share of this company, in the next 2 years, you will receive shares in 17 different spin-off corporations, guaranteed. Now, if the corporation fails, due to human error, or whatever reason, that's unforseen, but the majority of them are not going to. You're going to have 90-95% that are going to succeed successfully, without any problem. That is part of the reason the stock is valued, the personal holders of the private stock of CVSU, values it at much a higher price than what the market would as a normal trading stock. A normal stock should trade 2-3 times your current book.
We, as holders of 14 different companies, to 17, depending on the projects of that company, and we have 6 new projects on the table that we are reviewing , so there may be 20 or 30 by the time this thing is complete, totally diversified your holdings by owning one stock. Now, that's a new concept. It's something that isn't done. It's done in the high end finance world for people that's got $20-30 million dollars in the bank, and they diversify, or you can diversify through a 401K, or something of that sort. But it's just much simpler, we just come up with a concept and said why not do it in a new company? Why not do it in a publicly traded company ,and spin off every single subsidiary so every shareholder holds shares from here on out? It's something ...if you're a long term holder in the original corporation, you'll wind up holding 100% equivalent of your value, and it maybe even greater...at the least, in the market. Now, is there any questions?
Mr. Harris gives us some links, and we need to post those here. I don't have those at the moment.
Maybe the mods here would comment on that. Let's just say if you know anything about that mod DON, you would understand why I question what he says. Just check back on a few of my posts earlier today for a Don sampling (he's MODERATOR avatar of roulette wheel on HSM).
BTW - don't EVER question something I say! or I will tell PurlGurl on you!!!
Not to sound like an HSMers talking CRAP - but Don and Phil are both full of CRAP! Speaking of Phil - I don't think I spotted him today...maybe something good is up! like the Subpoena to HSMers! Now that would be COOL! I hope to see that happen - that would really make my day! I might even feel like there is justice in this world.
Maybe the other mods were pissed at DON for all that Cult publicity they were getting and made him walk the plank. Lee Webb and subPenny were certainly having a go with that Cult stuff. Although they sure took long enough if that was the situation.
Sure has been quiet - which is good - I have some serious shopping to do! someone (jms - from HSM?) mentioned that BODI was on vacation until Friday - wonder where he went? Hunting? Europe to collect a suitcase full of money? LOL!!!
This was my favorite from LadyTrader to the SEC - she/he sent numerous emails to Alana -
Posted by: cindyyoohoo
In reply to: Chas56789 who wrote msg# 129339
Date:11/12/2006 12:13:59 AM
Post #of 140946
HA!!! You mean letters like this from the infamous LADYTRADER on HSM? Yeah this sort of letter will go far - as far as the trashbin. What a bunch of lowlifes over there. tsk tsk.
here's an interesting letter to the SEC by LADYTRADER - an infamous HSMer:
Originally Posted by LADYTRADER
i sent a 3rd email to alana , this time i wasnt so freindly......
i dont understand why you would say you would send me info and not deliver ??
i'll tell ya what i beleive is this......
1. you took euroclears depo and they told you stuff about the bonds you didnt wana hear.
2. you dont have any evidence of fraud on cshd AT ALL. no case.
3. your DD skillz are horrible.
4. you took bad info from bad people , and thought you could make it stick.. beacuse you thought , cshd has to be guilty of something if these bad people are saying it....WRONG .
5. the best thing you can do at this point is to come clean , admit your findings , do the right thing by the American people.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Black, Alana R." <BlackA@sec.gov>
To: "xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 4:42 PM
Subject: Per our conversation
Alana R. Black
Senior Trial Counsel
Atlanta District Office
United States Securities and Exchange Commission
3475 Lenox Road NE, Suite 1000
Atlanta, GA 30326
(404) 842-7678 (voice)
(404) 842-7679 (facsimile)
blacka@sec.gov
Here come some lame excuses from HSM - looks like they want to blame the missing posts on a "hacker". No one will ever take responsibility over there. The whole lot of 'em should be sued for what they did.
Today, 08:25 PM #18814
braveheart
HSM Addict
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 5,825
Quote:
Originally Posted by brazilianrosewood
A few postings were removed the other day, and Don said this worries him for he had no idea why except as he said, a hacker at HSM.
a hacker or another mod? i thought it was only mods that had the ability to do stuff like that.
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Today, 08:27 PM #18818
brazilianrosewood
HSM Enthusiast
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 730
Quote:
Originally Posted by braveheart
a hacker or another mod? i thought it was only mods that had the ability to do stuff like that.
He said hacker, and was worried. He later said it possibly could have been Quest or Spectre.
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With any luck, the SEC will take more action on Pump and Dumps and PennyStock promotional sites like HSM. They definitely would qualify as a poster child for them! Thanks to Rufus and Subpenny for making them infamous!!!
Memories of Don the HSM Moderator:
Posted by: Dimension
In reply to: Dimension who wrote msg# 81307
Date:9/23/2006 7:41:18 PM
Post #of 139259
Can someone get a word to the HSM Moderator for me...
tell him one word..."PROZAC". You'd think the fella has his house invested in this thing...
Moderator
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 639 People bloody well chill out!!
I do not know who is wrong or right and asking THE MODS to intervene. The original posting on this thread was if you believe post here.If not go elsewhere. The rule APPILES TO EVERYONE , DO NOT POST HERE ONE MORE TIME IF THIS COMPANY IS NOT YOUR CUP OF TEA.FOR god's sake "stuff it" SAVE THE WORLD SOME OTHER PLACE OTHER THAN THIS BOARD. I HAVE HAD ENOUGH.We are asked to get caught in the middle and expected to clean up the GD MESS by some people who post here. IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE, GO and play in the sandbox. Save the seals or the whales, but your dam cause here falls on deaf ears. WE HAVE SAID FOR DAYS, IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THE HEAT GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN , GET OUT!! NOW DAM IT, DO NOT PUT ME IN A SITUATION OF HAVING TO BAN ANYONE. YOU PLAY GAMES WITH OUR CHARITY AND I AM MAD AS HELL BECAUSE OF THE POSITION SOME OF YOU HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF OUR KINDNESS. MOD
Posted by: cindyyoohoo
In reply to: The Real Deal who wrote msg# 139250
Date:12/5/2006 10:51:29 AM
Post #of 140891
Don was THE worse offender! Look at what he is saying NOW! I'll BRB - I'll dig up the original version of Don - and it wasn't a pretty sight! Mayben Dimension has that "need for PROZAC" post we joked about... I am willing to bet a number of the MODs post will be back to haunt him!
xxxx, 11:11 AM #7509
Moderator
Moderator
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 930
Please I ask you to watch what you say in print
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I know many of you are very frustrated and wanting answers. Some very strong and descriptive language is used on the thread making accusations for which at this time there is no direct proof or foundation to some of the things posted. It doesn't do anyone any good to make wild assumptions at this point until proven otherwise. The Investors can only wait for the real truth whatever that maybe , so I am asking you to keep this point in mind when posting. There is a new CEO and it has been said in the media, the steps necessary in the coming days. I am posting this message to ask that cooler heads prevail and wait for an update without going off on a tangent. The last thing we want to do here is ban someone. You have a right to vent, but it can be done in such a manner without making thie thread totally useless for good members to come here and post. We are not going to allow it to turn into another popular site where everything goes.
We do not have the answers and at the sametime, HSM has the responsibility to all members on this Board, not to let it turn into a circus which it is becoming.Don't find yourselves liable for posting things which could come back to haunt you in a big way. I ask that you remember the TOS guidelines at all times please.
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Posted by: cindyyoohoo
In reply to: None
Date:9/24/2006 12:45:20 AM
Post #of 140891
Don't mean to gossip - but an interesting little saga happening on the HSM board. Apparently a well liked, experienced, knowledgable investor is leaving HSM because he has taken issue with the running of the CSHD thread as a cheerleader forum enforced by banning. Obviously not everybody thinks the air is fresher over there!
Originally Posted by GUAPO
Moderator,
Your post below is exactly what I attempted to explain to you - my concerns - in the PM~s we exchanged this morning.
I disagree with your policy re the CSHD thread, pro-CHSD~ers only. However it is your board so you can run it as you see fit. I respect that.
Everyone knows what I think about CSHD. Per your policy I'm not welcome in the CSHD thread. I don't feel welcome any where on HSM anymore. As a result, I am voluntarily withdrawing from HSM. You can delete my login ID. I won't be posting anymore.
I appreciate the chance of participating in HSM. I thank you and the other Mods for that.
Good luck to everybody in the stock market.
GUAPO
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moderator
I DO NOT CARE IF YOU ARE A MEMBER IN GOOD STANDING. AS OF NOW, IF YOU DO NOT LIKE CSHD, NEVER POST HERE AGAIN. IF SOMEONE DOES OTHERWISE, YOU ARE GOING AGAINST MY RULING AND A PERMANENT BAN IS IN EFFECT IMMEDIATLEY
About the same time he receives his subpoena from the SEC????