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OTCmarkets.com still showing 500mil auth shares.
VNDM........sigh
no.
they stated they would begin a big contract end of april.
whether they PR it or not is up to the company.
they like to stay quiet.
dont listen to anyone here except for a few (you will know who if you follow)
they are trying to get your shares.
2's !!!!!!
not ashamed anymore.
waiting on those low 2's.
really excited.
way rather watch an account go + in $ than to recoup - in $
ciao auntie
actually.
its me who is ashamed because ive been played on time and time again and finally realized that no one cares and stocks go down faster than they go up.
myec will be fine eventually. let it settle at a reasonable pps.
wont just skyrocket out of nowhere.
last time it was because of the marijuana link and then a barrage of prs.
ANYONE can see that.
dont have to be a blood sucking parasite like me to see that right? sooo ashamed.
;)
go back like.
3 of my posts.
i fully agree with you here.
not only was everyone complaining.
but others were trying to pump this so hard.
'gift prices'
this and that 'going to pop'
calling the CEO by first name like they know him and then getting angry when he doesnt release an update every 2 seconds.
doing way more damage than good.
im pretty sure i hub is watched as well. they know when people are edgy.
hell. i sold half and glad i did, can get in way way way cheaper now that the 50mda is broken.
its really not hard. i see why some can hate flippers. but whatever makes you money.
not like anyone else cares about other people's investments.
dog eat dog.
no it is not bashing.
it is being realistic.
we shall see.
HOW IS IT BASHING
great company great revenues.
went from the 00's to the pennies.
first big catalyst was the mmj connection that made it soar with everything else.
will come down just like all stocks do to consolidate.
doing fine here.
worry about your own account.
ihub is ruthless for people with way too many emotions.
incredible.
down another 3% since your 1st message to me.
no wonder you 'used to' be .
good luck to you too bru.
see you around 2.
it already is.
one only needs to follow the chart to see where the short term trend is going.
sometimes even news can't change it.
the best news may be on the way.
but when you see posts like:
'these prices are gifts'
'going to pop soon'
'news this week'
its a real red flag from people trying to either dump on you, or are desperate to revive the share price.
always keep shares incase of a great release (which usually gives plenty of time to buy that day anyway if, in fact it is substantial. no stock is just going to open at 1.00$), and play the charts. just look at our boy NTE*
no one thought that would go lower either.
only my opinion.
i am sorry for the situation of the retail vs MM. it truly is criminal.
is it really so funny though?
down 10% today, support broken, MACD downturn.
I play by a couple rules on the OTC. - one of them being;
when everyone is desperate and yelling BUY - LOAD THE BOAT...it is time to get out.
when everyone is bashing and telling you to sell...pick up a couple shares.
of course there is DD and research and all that.
i think its a good move. saved quite a bit of 'paper' gain by doing so.
oh. and seeing these 500k blocks 1.1 million blocks on the ask PLUS VFIN PLUS VNDM.......
and knowing that some investors have millions of shares and cant even wait a couple weeks for financials??
ok maybe not 0.0145 i would buy some at 2 to start.
sold half yesterday.
looking for 0.0145 as a re-entry or will just ride the remains....really ugly play by vfin/vndm
good luck to everyone.
market/chart has spoken.
oooook.....
all i know is he's been here since 003 like me.
but whatever. good luck to you man.
very well could be.
i would suggest not announcing your tactics over i hub.
i was once told this a long time ago i didn't listen.
but i have learned since then.
you can do more damage being stealth, unless you are like TAKI aka ORCA who just buys at the ask for 15k at a time lol
Q24
you are whats wrong with the world.
just going to give up and say 'it is the market'
it is not the market.
we are being herded like sheep and its wrong.
you sit there and do nothing if you want.
im going to find out whats up.
later
yeah but there has to be a way to report it.
it is NOT legal in any way.
i just found out through another stock of mine that NITE actually owns ihub.
how do you think there are so many bashers and spammers.
they read everything we say here and use it against us.
sad.
10 Red Flags of Market Maker Manipulation (MMM) or Maintaining an Orderly Market
Now first let me give a few principals as my underlying basis on a few market principles within this communication as a prelude to what someone was asking me for my opinion. Especially since a few were wanting my opinion or view. The following happens a lot in CBQI's trading log history since December 8, 1999. Oh and just for what it is worth, in my experience, Market Makers typically do not carry inventories in OTCs, especially thinly traded securities. When they do carry inventories the stock rises so they can sell their inventories. However, the following are my 10 Red Flags for MMM (Market Maker Manipulation) I have observed since I have been trading:
Cross-Trading is the control by one or only a few brokers who match purchases and sales to drive up or down the stock price which ever way benefits them. According to Forbes' 07/29/96 Article on Market Makers this is the hallmark of penny stock manipulation … As an example to this there was a 1200 cross Friday at 11:23, which I was tied up and did not commentary on but these two post demonstrate the double prints that occur in a trading log Ragingbull CBQI Post #9583 & CBQI Post #9601
Boxing where a broker will position himself on both the ask and the bid, which is the heart of penny stock manipulation according to Business Week's 1996 Article: The Mob on Wallstreet eliminating competing market makers and allowing only cooperating brokers to bid on stocks, the result is a kind of rigged auction. As an example of this the following these three posts show an example of "Boxing" Ragingbull CBQI Post #9567, 9602 & 9603
Stock Call Signals which appear to be small share blocks of stock typically 100, 200 and 300 to get a supply of stock another MM or broker to help with an "Oversell", which is the amount of shares sold by a Market Maker that were not bought. Market Makers buy on the bid and selling on the ask, which is an automatic buy low sell high advantage for them same as being the house in a casino. As an example of this the following these three posts show an example of "Stock Calls" Ragingbull CBQI Posts #9594, 9610 & 9611.
Locking is when the MM on the ask moves to the bid in an attempt to back the bidding MM off to drive the price of the stock down. Thus by attacking the bid, both the bid and the ask are the same price. Sometimes a stock will stay locked for sometime if the bidding Market Maker does not move off the bid wanting more stock. Last time it Locked was on 1-03-2000 here is the log … Ragingbull CBQI Post #9263 The morning starts out at 07:30:51AM with a market (Bid-Ask) of 0.750-0.781 25x25 (a 3 cent spread) then at 09:40:56AM it gets another MM on the 0.750-0:781 25x25 quote. Then the short lived rapid fire of trades begin 09:58:11 1000 0.75
09:58:12 1500 0.75
09:58:16 500 0.75
09:58:16 1500 0.75
09:58:17 0.750-0.750 25x25
09:58:24 2500 0.75
09:58:25 0.719-0.750 25x25
09:58:35 2500 0.75
09:59:36 0.719-0.830 25x25 to finish up with an 11 cent spread in 90 seconds once the bidding MM backed off.
Nothing Done / No Fills is applied to your order and market makers trade ahead of you or flat out wont fill no matter what regardless of complaints, but if persistent will eventually get a fill as demonstrated in these two posts. Ragingbull CBQI Post #8127 & 8169 Plus here is a post on the time frame of not getting good delivery on CBQI stock Ragingbull CBQI Post # 9692
Buy orders at the Ask Filled on the bid, which is used to show weakness in the trading thus an investor's buy is shown as an investor sell as demonstrated in Ragingbull CBQI Post #9817
Excessive spreads between bid and ask prices; as demonstrated in red flag #4 it is also demonstrated on October 4, 2000 at 10:14:57 0.656-0.813 25x25 a 15 cent spread that is a 20% spread on the ask where it remained the rest of the day as shown in Ragingbull CBQI Post #9263
Oversell grows daily, which is where the market makers sell more stock than they have bought. 10-05-2000 T&S Report 70% Oversell according to Best Effort Ragingbull CBQI Post #9531 & 10-06-2000 T&S Report 31% Oversell according to best effort Ragingbull CBQI Post #9681
The Churn is market makers trading where most of the volume (59% according to Forbes' 07/29/96 Article on Market Makers) is among themselves. This is demonstrated in the trading around 11:00am on 10-04-2000 in Ragingbull CBQI Post #9353 and even earlier on 09-26-2000 in Ragingbull CBQI Post #8138
FUDs are posters (Usually anonymous posters) posting deliberate false and misleading rumors (rumor-mongering) in an attempt to deflate the stock price by instilling Fear, Uncertainty, & Doubt. (Could these be Market Maker or short voices) and of course attack with the same nonsense such as myself being a scamster as posted in Ragingbull CBQI Post #9223. But if you track the posting to the trading you will make an interesting observation as in post Ragingbull CBQI Post #10319 & 10320 However, a little history on Jetfuel is on Ragingbull CBQI Post #9257 & part 2 9260. Next is an interesting observation post on Stock_Whiz's arrival in Ragingbull CBQI Post #10321 with even more background observations in Ragingbull CBQI Post #9255 but according to Stock Whiz I am doing more harm than good tracking the stock and posting it. ??? I have to ask harm to who, exposing possible MMM by my commentary of the trading. Exposing what I feel is a wrong doing with an underlying basis to what I post. Next is an old Professional basher that always seems to show up when HRZG is on the bid comes out of retirement to make 7 posts then leaves and hasn’t posted since … hmmm… Ragingbul Post #9179 Oh a another just pop in and pop out Ragingbull CBQI Post #10326 who was posting along with and chartman that evaded the thread when MASH was on the bid.
These 10 red flag tactics, I have watched in CBQ since December 1999 and have tried documented each. Most of this was documented under Georgia_Bard from April to I believe July that has gotten deleted. Also the Market Maker reports were stopped in April, which I complained about. Here are my three letters of concern Short Selling and Naked Shorting, Selective Disclosure & Insider Trading, & on 8-10-2000 at 9:49PM Market Maker Report Changes. I believe the reason was because the MMs discovered they were actually reporting what they were doing. The OTC is unregulated and thus they do not have to fill an order or report a short position.
OTC Shorting Note: Someone once asked me about shorting an OTC. Well, we all know it is suppose to be illegal but in a phone conversation with a shorter, I was informed Bruno with Farsight was who he used. The gentleman would Front Load then Pump(Stretch the facts positive) Dump into the hype volume then Short once the momentum backed off and if necessary Bash on being lied to by the company. This is why I wrote the P&D vs S&D. Of course I am probably the focus of a character assassination by this Florida shorter. (What else is new?) BTW I had an account with Farsight and I did not know you could short an OTC through them.
Oh and to complain about it to NASD when you flat see this going on you get the following even when you are using the MM Report the OTC BB use to put out. I made a similar post to this one on April 6, 2000 and it is deleted so I will post this message on several boards. Anyway Listless tried to do what we are suppose to do and complain to NASD. Here is what happened…
April 1, 2000 A CBQI poster stated, I entered a complaint with the NASD regarding this matter.Ragingbull CBQI Post #3505. However according to the transfer agent’s numbers on August 25, 2000 only about 259,217 cannot be accounted for an thus has to be the dilution factor of the filed 144 through June 30, 2000. Sort shoots a hole in what he was told.
April 3, 2000 this same poster posts, … I just got a call from the NASD. Silicon Investor Post
April 7, 2000 (day after the 3100 share $3.00 walk down) this same poster posted, I spoke with a market regulator from the NASD last week regarding CBQI / the regulator threw the last four or five 144's back at me. / The Reg. didn't seem interested to hear the specifics. Silicone Investor CBQI Post
An example of red flag trading: Another interesting scenario is WDCO sold for the longest time this last week (first week in October). Especially on the October the 5th 2000 and boxed (2) the stock prior to noon as I showed in the T&S For Oct. 5, 2000 Ragingbull CBQI Post #9531 and note when the FUDs (10) show up. WDCO remains boxed (2) the rest of the day selling stock.
Then on the open of the 6th WDCO boxes (2) again Ragingbull CBQI Post #9567 by 10:35 WMIN is now boxing (2) with HILL on the bid Ragingbull CBQI Post #9598. Then WMIN unboxes the stock but remains on the bid as WDCO hits the Ask again in an possible attempt to hold it down Ragingbull CBQI Post #9607 if you follow my commentary when it hit a buck after numerous stock calls WDCO got help at 10:52 AM by a Market Maker Wall consisting of NITE, HRZG, MASH & PGON on the ask at $1.03 as HILL jumps on the bid at $1.00 as per Ragingbull CBQI Post #9608. Up until 10:55AM fills and stock calls (3) erupted Ragingbull CBQI Post #9610 By 10:57 HILL flips from the bid to the ask Ragingbull CBQI Post #9614 then single handily HILL drops the ask down on 9,100 shares to .875 by 11:03. The oversell (8) was a stout 41,900 on a 100K volume half day as posted in Ragingbull CBQI Post #9622. Was this one of the tactics for manipulation or an orderly market? The stock had little activity after this until 2:20PM when WDCO boxed (2) it again Ragingbull CBQI Post #9649 MASH stepped on the Ask with him by 2:29 PM Ragingbull CBQI Post #9653. Now that the stock had little activity a canceled shows up on a 1200 cross trade (1) earlier in the day Ragingbull CBQI Post #9678 . Ended up closing with a 11 cent spread 12% spread (7) .82x.93 at the bell Friday Ragingbull CBQI Post #9681
The on Monday morning MASH stepped off the Ask leaving WDCO alone boxing (2) Ragingbull CBQI #9810 until HILL takes the Ask leaving WDCO alone on the bid Ragingbull CBQI Post #9814 upon which orders on the Ask were being filled on the bid (6) Ragingbull CBQI Post #9817 then just after lunch WDCO begins taking the ask down Ragingbull CBQI Post #9824 then just after 2 o'clock MHMY got on the Ask with HILL and WDCO still on the bid Ragingbull CBQI Post #9851 which I then predicted a stock call (3) and it came while I was posting Ragingbull CBQI Post #9852 and the ended up 6% Undersell Ragingbull CBQI Post #9861 but people were posting they finally got their fills (5) Ragingbull CBQI Post #9857 & 9859
Also when WDCO had it Boxed, a 100 share call came out after every fill until he got help. Check the trading on Friday October 6, 2000 that was proof of the MM stock call signals (3) to me.
Anyway, though I am bored and have converted trading activity to a Bullfight it is exactly what it is to be honest. I follow the trading daily and post it as best as I can keep up with it for a documented proof on line.
Also now do you see why I am attacked by every evil on the Internet and accused of every wrong doing in the world. You do not make posts like this and NOT take any heat by the types that live in this reality. (BTW I called it and I was right )
Are small investors merely creatures of manipulation?
Gary Swancey
myec and vndm
how is this legal?
showing 10k each.
seen more than 20k shares bought and no movement?
how can we report this i took a screenshot.
sits is a patience stock i love it.
nothing crazy. very predictable.
lol so crazy eh?
support still HOLDING
another bounce off these low 4's would be great
maxm got spanked.
wow...spoke too soon.
INCREDIBLE CALL MAN! A+++++
500K SHARES RIGHT THERE....
and he moved...is it time....
shouldnt go below 4. bounced off there quite a few times.
but........more often than not it does go below.
we shall see
really liking how nobody bidding gets filled.
those selling now are really out of line. they have no clue.
love seeing that ask slapped because people keep moving up bids and just finally want in.
slow and steady up she goes. imagine 2015. where this stock could be.
most glorious weekly chart out there
YES
HAVE SOME PATIENCE
STOP WORRYING ABOUT ONE STOCK YOU SHOULD BE RESEARCHING AND FOLLOWING ABOUT 20
learn the game or forever be a slave to it.
wearing a raiders shirt right now.
this support line looks so good.
not the biggest VNDM fan here, but MAXM is sure doing a finnnnne job
awesome message.
i think the person in question bought way too high and way too much.
feeling neeerrrvoussss.
people need to learn to trade within their means. ESPECIALLY in the pinks.
nice light support at 0.014
bids increasing and moving up, great sign.
looking forward to the upcoming news.
that was ridiculous. big amount of shares bought on VNDM and 100k takes it down.
so annoying
210k sold below the bid?
whats that about
NTEK JUST GOT KNIFED AND HAD TO GO TO THE ER
BANDAGED AND MAKING ITS RECOVERY.
SHES ALIIIIIIIIIIVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
love trading with this guy.
he makes millions because he knows what hes doing i think he has 10 mil plus shares in the double o's
i think many will be very surprised here.
no one is willing to sell so low.
and once TAKI aka ORCA comes back after all these little flips are done,
theres no chance of this going anywhere but up.
guy really knows how to play.
supports holding very very well..
bollinger bands tightening and news = POP
agreed.
here since 003
couldnt be happier
so glad to be surrounded with level headed traders on this board.
once i started seeing new faces appear i knew my blood would begin to boil a little bit.
i LIKE that sits is not on most read
i LIKE that sits rarely appears on 'breakout boards'
i LIKE knowing that my investment is in good hands, DD has been done and in time, just like every other time, the stock will reach new highs, as it has, time and time again.
such a gold mine this one.