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Just now starting the new David Corn book, American Psychosis, about the Republican's party descent into fascism. Definitely worth a look, the roots of it go back almost 200 years.
Yes, but I don't get any credits. It should be automatic, no? We pay for services then don't get them and are still charged? The Republican way!
A lot of these companies, like our cable provider, have "retention" departments set up to give percs to customers who are vocal about leaving the fold.
For example, every couple of years, or so, we get in touch with the cable company and say we're considering going to the "dish" and they then give us some premium streaming services for free for a year or two.
Try it with all of them, what's there to lose by it?
Yes, you deserve a medal for believing the lies that Trump spewed and his ignorant followers, followed.
Yes, gas prices were lower, there was a fucking pandemic and demand had dropped. But not as low as Trump lies about:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/24/politics/fact-check-trump-gas-prices
Ditto for inflation:
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-112809830820
You seem to be a pretty run of the mill Trump supporter. Got White Nationalism much? That's about the only thing that grew during his disastrous reign.
What is this, the political stock board for delusional penny stock "investors"? The silliness of thinking that a sub-penny stock will make them rich goes hand in hand with political silliness, I guess.
The inability, or unwillingness, to process data without having to resort to "alternative facts" or straight-out bias confirmation works equally poorly in both arenas.
An awful - white Nationalist - man, before we called them that. I believe Princeton University, of which he was President, is re-naming the school named after him. Just goes to show that brains and bigotry aren't mutually incompatible.
https://paw.princeton.edu/article/princeton-renames-wilson-school-and-residential-college-citing-former-presidents-racism
Yeah, that shorts in winter thing is an east coast preppy affectation, I believe, I mean what's the point? Fetterman did grad school at Harvard, but undergrad and MBA from non-Ivies.
I hope he wins, nothing good ever results from the election of Trumpists.
Also, keep an eye on Arizona, Lake vs Hobbs - at some point the people in this country are going to have to decide whether embracing authoritarianism is the way we want to go.
Yes, but Pres. Wilson was incapacitated and his wife did his job for him running the country, and ditto for Pres. Reagan.
Biden's doing fine, he's doing well, but concerns about a candidate's health are legit. Also right now Sen. Feinstein is widely thought to be suffering from real dementia, so who's actually doing her job?
Ronnie Reagan was bad enough but the knowledge that his wife and her astrologer were running things is pretty scary.
I can't stand Oz but it's not binary, I'm also concerned about a guy who's had 2 strokes this year, at least he won't be President, though.
I think Fetterman with his hoodie and before him, Beto with his skateboard, are trying too hard to be non-conformist to appeal to a younger demographic - it's too bad ideas and a track record can't do that. They're actually not fooling anyone, I don't think, being in politics is about as conformist a career ambition as you can have.
What an unhappy, old man, grade C actor he is. Nothing like making your child feel responsible for your self-imposed misery. Blaming everybody but himself, a true MAGA type.
"His wisdom, in truth, is worth nothing". Hard to misinterpret that, either he's claiming that Socrates was overrated or that wisdom is.
If the latter is meant, then what's the point of deferring to the various sages on the basis of their education or experience? Hence, Trump.
So, again, no facts, only bullshit. Ok, enjoy!
Ok, I know you won't answer, but which part of that was bullshit? Or is this just sort of a lame schoolyard type comeback?
I'm guessing the latter, because I can back up what I posted with some "fact" things.
Volcker was during the Carter administration, isn't the current guy Powell?
I appreciate the effort you made in finding this link and posting it, but it's a little over my head.
You state that to trust this guy is our best choice but then post a comment by Plato that refutes the benefits of experiential knowledge. Hmmmm.
I did post a link to a very short piece that claims that inflation is, in fact, self correcting. I mean we still have economists claiming that Trickle-Down works, so go figure.
You are funny / clueless. Unemployment is down, stock market going up, wages rising, dollar super strong (which makes imports, aka Walmart, not to mention foreign travel, cheaper), it's a terrible state of affairs.
If you fall back on the tired meme of gas prices, in order to compare apples to apples you'd have to go to pre-pandemic prices, before covid killed demand, which then averaged nationally about $2.50 per gallon.
If you factor in the Russia situation, the oil companies absurd price gouging, and the Saudis cutting production you can account for the current, higher prices. How Biden gets the blame for this is only by simplistic and ignorant analyses.
By the way, what's your / Trump's plan for fighting inflation? Put Jared on it, I guess, his track record of successes was impressive.
Interesting article in today's NY Times about some changes taking place in some parts of Texas:
"A shrinking white share of the population is a hallmark of the congressional districts held by the House Republicans who voted to challenge Mr. Trump’s defeat, a New York Times analysis found — a pattern political scientists say shows how white fear of losing status shaped the movement to keep him in power."
Trumpism & MAGA = racism, period
“A lot of white Americans who are really threatened are willing to reject democratic norms,” she said, “because they see it as a way to protect their status.”
No harm, no foul, we're all good.
Thanks, that's some food for thought. Although, I'm not sure I'd take Volcker's word about this, his interest is too vested:
"The Federal Reserve board led by Volcker raised the federal funds rate, which had averaged 11.2% in 1979, to a peak of 20% in June 1981. The prime rate rose to 21.5% in 1981 as well, which helped lead to the 1980–1982 recession, in which the national unemployment rate rose to over 10%."
Was this really better than inflated prices? It strikes me as being similar to the concept of "trickle down economics", which, as Krugman describes it, is a zombie theory. I'd like to see a more hands-off approach, although, it's true, that no one's asked my opinion:
https://www.mrmedico.info/apps/blog/show/42117689-how-does-the-economy-self-correct-from-inflation-
Next question: how does raising interest rates, as the Federal Reserve is doing, fight inflation? It causes the manufacturing costs of everything to go up which means those manufacturers and, then, retailers have to charge more, which raises the costs of stuff which causes inflation. Are they increasing inflation to fight inflation?
Things will become more costly which will lead to people not buying stuff which will depress various enormous sectors of the economy. And as business profits decline, people will need to be laid off and be further unable to buy stuff.
So the Federal Reserve is jump starting a recession in order to cure inflation? Isn't that a bit top down in that companies can maintain some semblance of their profit margins while people need suffer a decline in living standards? Is inflation worse than a recession?
Is it possible that inflation is just part of the normal business cycle and will abate on its own in the same way that it begins rising on its own? Sometimes, he who helps least, helps most.
Or, as they used to say in Brooklyn, back in the day (and I never actually lived in Brooklyn back in the day) "the wisest guys are the ones who know that their wisdom is worth nothing."
Or you don't change with it. Instead, you sit in your house getting zonked on opioids or meth, feeling sorry for yourself, and blaming dark skinned people, uppity women, immigrants, and queers for your misfortunes.
It's often referred to as the MAGA Way.
To your last point, no, I'm poorly read about these guys. I do know that one was a student of the other, that they were collaborators of a sort. In a possibly similar fashion to Lennon and McCartney who famously fell out when the Beatles broke up, wrote songs harshly critical of each other and were only reconciled at the end.
My idea was that, maybe, Plato and Socrates had a similar end to their collaboration, with one trashing the other.
It just irked me that someone (Plato) thought he had wisdom enough to declare the wisdom that someone else had accrued (Socrates) to be worthless. If all wisdom is worthless, however, what was his freakin' point, since he's instructing people to not take him seriously, either.
Why listen to someone who comes out and says that no one is worth listening to?
The search for knowledge certainly isn't ceaseless amongst the MAGA crowd, it interferes with their certainty about things they're clueless about.
Otherwise, though, two thumbs up. If only you had been there to have been Plato's speechwriter.
Interesting. Maybe your name should be up there in the pantheon of noted philosophers throughout the ages. We could do worse.
Noted. But there's sometimes enough fuck you to go around.
Jeez, can't you find something better to do than being insulting about something that's, basically, none of your business. I mean, do you feel empowered by being an asshole about things?
And, oh, yeah, before I forget, go fuck yourself.
I wouldn't categorize it as hung up, I'm curious about an explanation from someone who holds the statement dearly. How can you claim to be knowledgable about something and at the same time discredit knowledge? Wouldn't that make your point moot?
If you don't find the quote illogical or egomaniacal (on Plato's part) and are uninterested in the topic, fine, then this dialogue will have to struggle along without you.
Is our moderator claiming that, like Plato, only his knowledge is worthwhile? (this is meant as a joke) Maybe Plato and Socrates had a bit of a war of words going on between themselves, like the relationship between Lennon and McCartney became.
Yes, but it's your "signature" line and it's circular logic at best.
Everyone's wisdom is folly except for what Plato is dishing out? Either the man's ego was out of control or someone needs to examine his writings a little more carefully.
I'm ignorant about the Plato / Socrates / Whomever canon, but when something doesn't make sense it doesn't make sense, ancient Greek or not. Why should we care about Plato's opinion if it's based on experiential wisdom which is folly at its core?
It seems almost Trumpian in its megalomania, that only he can emit the good wisdom, no one else knows what they're talking about.
So, Plato is trashing Socrates' wisdom, while dispensing more worthwhile wisdom of his own?
"It was Plato who said, “He, O men, is the wisest, who like Socrates, knows that his wisdom is in truth worth nothing”
So Plato is giving wisdom about something, Socrates' knowledge, and at the same time implying that his (Plato's) wisdom is worth nothing? So, then, what's his point?
Is this a joke, some philosophy grad students' inside joke? To me it makes no sense, it's absolutely illogical.
Way before Reagan. LBJ's Great Society and the Voting Rights Act were in the early 60's. FDR did the New Deal, which pissed off Republicans.
You might have to go back to 1912, when Wilson won the presidency to get the full switch effect. Wilson was a nasty racist, who, like Reagan, became incapacitated and had his wife do his job for him.
https://millercenter.org/president/wilson/essays/wilson-edith-1913-firstlady
Exactly. Act like amoral sociopaths and care about no one but yourself. Be like Trump!
Open borders, CRT, anti-abortion, socialism, anti-trans / gay, gas prices: these are the issues, both imaginary and real, that Republicans are running on this time around.
I challenge anyone to come up with one proposal for any solution to any real problem put forth by any Republican in any election this year.
I had not previously checked out that link. From personal experience, I know that when I went to one of their houses for a tour, it was $20 or thereabouts, and from the crowds when I was there, I figured that maybe 1000 people were going in that day.
I sort of doubt people go there specifically because of the royals, weddings and funerals aside, but if you're in London you're probably going to something like the changing of the guards. And if you're near one of their other pads, anyway, you might as well have a look around.
I believe we went to the place where Anne spends most of her time, these days, can't recall the name. Interesting to find out that back in the day, whenever the king slept there, it was an honor to be invited into his bedroom to watch him fall asleep.
And people wonder how Trump was elected.
Roger that.
You're your own man (person), obviously, and I have no standing to have an opinion about anything you do, also obviously.
That being said, why do you bother? Do you really think you're going to convince that person of anything, change their mind about the obvious, make them see reality outside their bubble?
His / her uninformed opinions only lead to unsolvable disagreements and the attendant frustrations. It's not a dialogue, it's comparable to when children are said to be "parallel playing".
Unless, of course, endless frustration and the subsequent venting is the goal. In which case, have at it, and enjoy!
Yes, it's fascinating. My take is that the British royal family is now working as trade representatives for England as well as hosting multitudes of paying tourists in their castles for tours. When I worked with Andrew, once ,and Edward another time, they were both busy at events trying to entice American CEOs to locate some businesses in England.
It seems like the castles sort of pay for themselves and maybe bring in enough to pay staff and basic royal overhead. The royal family then, is living it up in grand style on, basically, dividends derived from the ill gotten gains of their ancestors.
To repeat: the British royal family currently owns 1/6 of all the land on planet Earth. What's more fascinating than that?
That's nice, dear, did Uncle Stevie Bannon tell you that?
Nice comment, comrade. Doesn't make any sense but we can see where you're coming from.
Republicans are occupying a fact free zone in America today. Just look at this board, where no right wingers can ever back up their claims with any sort of link that's not from Brietbart or Newsmax.
That's the entire strategy behind the "fake news" and "alternative facts" memes. This way, any news we don't like we can simply say is fake, again, without any sort of facts to disprove it. Like the election being stolen.
All the Republicans have are culture wars and trying to frighten the rubes. Ask any Republican now running for office what their specific plans are for helping the economy or health care or infrastructure situation and all you'll get is deflection. Except maybe for pushing the idea that more guns will solve gun violence.
We have a guy running for Gov. in NY, Zeldin (R), whose office has put out, literally, nothing by way of any sort of platform that deals with real issues. Beside the fact that he's been caught out lying about his military service, what's not to like. (he was a military lawyer, and apparently a good one, but is on record claiming he was a paratrooper in Iraq)
Socialism! They don't really understand it but it's been scaring people for generations and is, unfortunately, a winning strategy.
I was pleased to find out a few weeks ago that the local high school is introducing courses in financial literacy. Now if only they could do the same for political literacy.
Yes, they've been making quite a bit of noise lately about discontinuing military aid to Ukraine at the current levels.
https://www.axios.com/2022/10/18/republicans-ukraine-aid-mccarthy
You can see here the trickle down Putin effect. The right wing posters, on this board, are participating in undermining confidence in election integrity, questioning aid to Ukraine, and acting happy when any Biden plans go awry, even those that would benefit average Americans.
Putin was savvy enough to realize that the Trump fans are a cult and if he could get the cult leader babbling some stuff, then his followers would go along, no matter how absurd.
Good Lord, this is the same cohort that actually believes that JFK Jr is alive and going to run for national office.
Also want to mention that I think that QE2 was possibly the most passive aggressive person in the history of personhood..