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Agreed Greedy. That will be the next part of my entertainment value I have derived from my $9k ticket to watch the show! I look forward to what gets revealed and how low the perpetrators stooped to keep this charade going.
That is to say JB is SHORTY!!!
Seems about time to "GET SHORTY"!!! JB
To say the least JC. I always enjoyed your enthusiasm when you too were a strong supporter. Best of luck to you my man!!
My condolences Mike. I know how hard you wanted this to take off too when you were a staunch supporter like myself. That is why I would not purchase of 'average down' until I saw ANY proof of life. Best Wishes to you! DZ
Nothing is ever a problem in JBI Land. I have been around almost 4 years now and have seen how everything is spun. Bad is good, in desperate need of financing is happy to invest pipers or whales, and missed commitments are excused like they were a 6 year old child.
In the real world, we do not get all the passes this company has received. They have burned real people with false claims and outlandish lies. Some of them have been friends. For that I truly hope justice befalls on the perpetrators of this crime.
Good luck to all other good but truly buffaloed people who have nothing left but to hope and pray against hope that they get their money back. For me, it will be a $9k real loss. Such is life, live and learn, better for it the next time a friend approaches me on a to good to believe pipe dream.
Honest answers for honest people still here. GLTA
Respectfully,
DZ
FASCINATING! Excellent question Malone! Actions do speak louder than words!
DIRECT QUESTION DESERVES A DIRECT ANSWER! WELL?? Hans??
Put an end to the hype and speculation right here!!
Love that area 4K! I made the drive many many times while while living in Nashua in the mid 80's. Beautiful drives!! DZ
Now this is some kind of serious validation:
http://www.virgin.com/richard-branson/another-step-closer-to-zero-waste
Agreed. It truly looks like the JBI house of cards is crumbling all around. It is a nice piece of validation for the other company. John, Richard, Buehler, anybody?...
SARCASM? :)
94255 more wash traded shares huh? LOL
I don't 'admit' to them playing it, simply doing their job as a facilitator of orderly buys and sells. The chances of MM's playing this like 'overstock' is far fetched based on factual data that I have seen (I still could be wrong if a conspiracy does exist). Although I respect all the work of tracking trades, I do not believe it will be of true benefit in the long run. Either the process is viable, (revenue far outweighs expenses) or it does not. It all comes down to the REAL financials of the company. I will wait for the final chapter of my gamble to play out. Regardless, it has brought much entertainment value and an enjoyment factor to my life over the past 3 1/2 years.
4XLewis, while I can appreciate your optimism and hope, I am not sold on that theory whatsoever. I see the MM's performing an orderly exit through the doors with $20k share sales and 200 share buys to inhibit any panic. There is a reason JBI continues to move lower. It is my opinion that it is not MM's wash trading and manipulating, just shareholders leaving in an orderly fashion. I hope I am long as I still hold all of my shares as a flyer. The days of optimism and belief in the company, leadership, PR's, propaganda, strategically leaked information, and pomp and circumstance simply make me laugh nowadays. Afetr being in leadership roles for fortune 500 companies my entire life, I am amazed at how many missed commitments, hidden financials and metrics, and bogus partnerships for short term pumps I have seen. They lost me at CFP and NO REVENUES a long time ago. Good luck to all longs.
Somebody liquidating today! Probably at 70k shares so far.
Nice price manipulation (paint) up. What a joke this issue has become!
Another day, another orderly sale by the MM's. Nothing ever changes in JBI Land.
How are the mid quarter updates coming along? How about the imminent sale of a processor? Anybody?
Well said Ty! Does JBI leadership continue to think shareholders will continue to buy into these fairy tales? There is ZERO interest in processor sales until one is sold. 'Continuing discussions with multiple buyers' is another fantasy land pipe dream. Sell a processor and show the net term. Only then will i BEGIN to kick the tires for a reality check.
"Now, for Brewer, we shall see. If he's able to open markets in foreign nations, whether 3rd world or not, more power to him."
Really?? We are truly getting excited of some new player opening 3rd world markets when this company has not even been able to sell a processor in Newark, Akron,Vegas,or any point in between in the great US of A?? C'mon people wise up. You have been officially duped. Sorry, there is no Wizard behind the curtain, No Grand Pubah, and no Tooth Fairy. I am now embarrassed for those that still believe and to read the leeway given for these hysterical claims.
JBII= A comedy act, entertainment, nothing more!
What an orderly DUMPAGE of large blocks of stock. The MM"s truly look are looking like this is an orderly exit for those who have had enough of the games. $50k worth of stock moved like butta.
And a 23k share block to close ain't no window dressing folks. Major games being played out on the JBII screen continue. My gut feeling does say 'the ones in the know' leak enough to the general public to play their agenda. I stay for the entertainment value alone. Not the laughable excuse for a (cough, cough) investment. Too many lies, deceptions, musical executive chairs, lawsuits, and hype. What good is expected from a secondary offering at 17% of last share price and the 23 year old CFO (ROFL) leaving just before printing financials? The comedy becomes greater over time.
All those shares are looking awfully good right now as the PPS free falls. Unreal with this company.
Back to large seller on the block. Multiple 10+K blocks being sold while 200 shares blocks prop the share price back up immediately. I would call that orderly by the MM.
Thanks, I see the annual is different. Still no reason to not have any mid quarter update. SOS. Holding all shares but disappointed in lack of transparency.
Earnings have historically been released around 45 days into the new quarter. That would make Q4 earnings due around 2/17/14. The mid Q updates that RH announced would have been at the start of the new Q (1/2/14 for the first half of Q4 through 11/15/14). I see this as another missed commitment from our leadership friends at JBI. Can anyone show this to be incorrect? Thanks, DZ
And the silence is sadly being shouted that something is terribly wrong!
Well, well, well, what do you know, another 200 share buy at .099 cents after 100,000 sale at 9 1/2 pennies. More than laughable
Tyk,
This is the absolute truth. No one can argue with this fact. Everything else on this board is pure noise.
"From a shareholder perspective, yes.. JBI is a failure. In four and a half years of existence, they have failed to create any shareholder value, and their process still does not even meet the claims they already made about it several years ago."
As some poster used to say, "and back at the ranch, JB continues to pull down his multi 100K salary and no sales to be heard of or in sight."
It seems there is still no sense of urgency as this issue truly does resemble a circular flushing motion. After the last conference call and AGM, credibility of any kind seems gone in my opinion.
Nice job Adman. That would have been the smart play. We all live and learn. I am thankful that I only invested an amount I could afford to lose on this gamble ($10k). Still, I should have been smarter to place a stop loss at $4. We live and learn. DZ
Laughable. Market +300 points, JBII remains 13 pennies
Back to the familiar trading pattern; 10-30k sale followed by 100-300 buy. One needs the patience of a saint.
UP a whole 2 1/2 pennies from the AGM, isn't that just freaking neato. At some point, the wear and tear of this 'hi risk investment' comes back into reality. This is not an 8th grade science experiment. There are many folks who believed in the hype and the timelines stated. Thank God, I placed ONLY my fun/ risk money in this. Not too fun so far. The story has changed so many times it is even starting to bore me. We will see if I can turn some type of profit in this over the next 12 months. As far as being captivated by the hyperbole, that ship sailed long ago.
And the share price has only gone down since 2pm
My Q on SG and A being exorbitant answered too broadly with lots of legal and employee costs in a pubco. You cannot run any company spending 5- 10 times revenues and going to the pipe for financing every quarter. No transparency with what makes SG&A so huge is a major red flag for me.
Great question for the meeting TYK
Let's Roll People!
What ever way each individual with a vested interest in this stock would like to spin it, the bottom line is that the company keeps missing expectations. The latest expectations were set with the close of Q2 and into Q4 processor run. Whatever reasons they assuage themselves with that could not maintain throughput rates, it is simply noise and excuses.
Whatever your position is on this, whether it be, calculation extrapolations, NSS Theory, DD, Scam, Historical pomp and circumstance, processor visits, Boots on the ground, cheerleading, attacking, and yes, even the laughable Neato Day (high school revisited), the bottom line is lack of execution.
With this stock, small position in my overall portfolio, I have now gone from speculative issue to pure gamble. I have been long since mid 2010. I have always stated I would ride it out for the entertainment factor this board provides me. I will remain a shareholder until we get confirmation one way or another. Either I will see greater than $10 or $0.
I can truly say that I am disappointed in the latest results and believe the execution of a public company needs to be drastically tightened up. Props go to Bueno Kite for his realistic and well thought out posts asking the hard questions and telegraphing the answers. Answers that no long really wants to see. The market truly does forecast what is happening on the inside. JBI is no different.
I consider Chris Irons a friend of mine and trust this works out for him since he has more at stake than the rest of us armchair quarterbacks. I trust that Rick Heddle did not come in blindly and his track record of success will be maintained. I trust that JB will have learned from his amateur errors and be on the path back to respectability. This investor will not throw good money after bad as it is simply a source of entertainment for me now.
JBI, show me what you got with your performance. Profitability is the bottom line. The stock price dictates your future investing pool. Regardless of how much potential you claim to have, it is time to show your shareholders the money with flawless execution. GLTA, DZ
Stocker, I appreciate your enthusiasm as I am long and seeing this through. However, 'preliminary talks with many buyers' does not equate to massive interest in my view. Time to wait for another quarter and hope the financing is favorable based on mid quarter update.
Rock Tenn is now simply on a short list of potential processor partners and buyers. Hmmmm