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question is, if i am buying at the ask how come i didnt get them?
hmmm?
i have had a bid in at the ask for 10 minutes and nothing
makes you think eh?
i would certainly agree with a lot of what you say however the part that was left out is that they are and will be placing product in other parts of the country.. this may not seem like much but it could certainly start an upswing in sales.
here's hoping everything takes off as planned.
to be honest , I am hoping for monetary fines and then civil fines and/or more - there is precedence for this....
karma coming I hope. both ken and mart in my opinion
are responsible for all of this outrageous action....
i also filed a month ago, couldn't agree more. imho this is white collar crime.
that's what i like to see , concise,well-thought out discussions
based on impeccable dd
hey bigroy, you have been here forever like me. don't you feel ripped off, do you think it is ok to be lied to all the time ?
hey mart, how are those financials going. you remember the ones promised to Your stockholders several times over.
sec around the corner.......
or maybe they have money, are making money and just don't care
to share it with the people who invested in the company. do we know anything, nope, could be making money hand over foot and no one knows. maybe just maybe mart only cares about .... you know.
hey mart, where are those financials - how much do you think it would cost to post financials? not much... but hey, have to make business trips to sweden. oh guess no financials cause he doesn't care about people who invested. sec time ....
credibility not good, that is very funny. respect for shareholders, even funnier, he doesn't care
and will be for a long time until justice is done my friend
hey mart, where are those promised financials anyway,
do you need help finding them...
thin until .001 , financials due any year, mart in hiding,
to da moon and beyond, slap the ask
hey mart, how are those long ago promised financials, are you alive,
hey ken,. well, you know how people feel about your contributions,
wonder how the orange will look? dont you.
no such thing as a honest, ethical , moral dutch rabbit.
give me a break. do you know how difficult it is to get into a distributorship with all the other products? this is the beginning , a test to see how it goes and potentially a huge step as the nw market could be huge.. but , hey, you have been a shorter since the vikings discovered america and you would have knocked them too..
good luck to all longs
one way to resolve this. take some money you said you could borrow and get on the financials... that is all it takes.. nothing more nothing less.. time will tell if he is serious....
thanks, i thought that was how it was spelled in Italy.
hey mart, where are those financials anyway, you remember you promised.......
maybe I missed it but does it show anywhere what the revenue is for machines sold ? thanks
good luck to all longs
for which year?
he also said in June it would be done by the end of June.
at what point do you find that this is not going to happen, just curious..... I mean we havn't had a clue for years about sales.
do you find this acceptable?
your right he didn't have to say anything but he has mentioned this since June , he should, however, as a competent ceo post the figures... don't you agree. I know you have been here a long time.. are you not concerned about the same pattern we are falling into... just curious
i am gathering names and am looking into the various routes of action and will keep you informed. thanks
hey Mart, as I have mentioned before I have family in the Netherlands and have decided this spring to visit. I know Nijmegen is a cute little town so how about if we set up a meeting to discuss several very important legal issues which need to be addressed for myself and other stockholders. Thanking you in advance for your reply.
a concerned sdvi stockholder
no problem, am collecting name of people who have filed sec complaints and other information. time to have some guts and take these liars to court....
unless people have forgotten the dutch alleged ceo also promised by the end of June the same thing... so this is the second time he has broken his promise and the 493nd time the company has broken theirs. no figures released in years just bait and switch sdvi/graf which every stockholder knows was just pure theft .. onto the law suit.
" intentionally releasing of false news ( let alone stealing people'
s shares by asking them to trade them for worthless pieces of paper)
could land owners IN COURT FACING A CLASS ACTION SEC LAWSUIT"
gosh, what do you think will happen once this gets to the proper channels if not resolved NOW....
if you are going to comment on the company please review your comments. Revenue increase. we havnt had any figures in two years so revenue increase... please back up your statement with written verifiable figures or say ' sort of guessing based on no information at all.... puleeezzzz...
few days, it was promised months ago, come on fd look at the information first bs by ken and now mart promises for months, oh yeah , how about sdvi/graf fiasco... how about posting some other facts which are true...
what an interesting question. the answer is that it is time for all the shareholders who got screwed on the sdvi/graf issue to file suit .. if anybody is interested let me know. enough bs......
so what does that tell us... took the money and is running. hope the sec gets on this quickly, the two of them deserve to be stockaded.... i know, be nice and he will give us figures.. i admire your believe in our fellow humans unfortunately these two seem to belong to a different sub-species...
not saying things arent' " in motion" just don't believe until it is verified by press releases. been investing too long to believe anything until it is out there for the world to see. good luck to all longs...
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for me nothing counts until I see it " in writing" as a press release. seen to many other companies where a call - gets info. if there is information then put it out for the investing world to see and believe...
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to be honest, i hate the unsubstantiated " heard on the street " line, you read it on some many ihub boards. makes it seem like a real pinky with this kind of message, but then you say ' don't quote me on it" please, if you want people to take this seriously either say what your heard ( with names ) or don't bother....
gets irritating.. sorry but that is how I feel.....
good luck to all longs
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because he is short and out of touch with reality.... just ignore him... he is delusional
to be honest, pawlitzer isn't what moves me on this stock. it is the
nutri bars so when they put out a memo saying production increased due to demand and by september in stores i believe you better back it up with an announcement waying to who and when. You or I as business people would do that and I would expect the owners to do the same thing. Hope it happens , time will tell.
good luck to all longs
i have been holding for about four months and based on the memo I am hoping ( and assuming ) that when it reads the bars will be available in September then that will be the case
. An announcement to the investing world stating that bars were shipped to XXXX on this date will do wonders for the stock. Anything other than this in my opinion could cause some real doubts in investors minds. ( I guess me for one).. I am really hoping that based on prior memo's that the product are/have been produced and being shipped. To say they are waiting so they can produce for all stores personally doesn't make much sense to me, get the products you have available out the door now and get them sold. If the commitment was for XXX bar;s to be shipped based on the memo that should be happening. I don't think it is unreasonable to expect the sept is the month we fly or wither
good luck to all longs- just one person's opinion .
no, he doesnt have anything ready as is obvious by his two last statements which are falsehoods.. he has never done anything he has promised since taking over as whatever he thinks he is...
sad day for people who invested in this bait and switch sdvi/graf garbage....
the only hearing updates will be the legal ones from the SEC.
wow, great idea... hey mart, listen to this guy will ya?
i guess this for me goes beyond money. It is about what is right and wrong and if I have to lose my money( kissed it goodbye a while ago) and the end result is mart and ken has whatever happens to them handed down by the SEC than I am fine with that. Just based on the sdvi/graf issue i would hope there is some kind of criminal issue involved. time will tell. how is this solved... gee guess.. so what about the people who converted over - they are allready holding useless pieces of paper.. no, I would rather see those two handed down judgements than to let this go... I guess each one of us has our own morals and principles we adhere to. good luck to you.
hmm, you must be new to the stock market, energy stocks in general,
may I suggest you do some basic reading regarding energy stocks etc
that way your comments won't appear so basic. just a suggestion.
in fact, their is a very successful power company with your name,
you may want to wander back into the history of this company to it's birth to see how things work... we are not talking about selling sponges to wal-mart, these things actually take time. May I suggest if you don't have the patience to wait,that you move on but certainly thank you for your unwarranted comments...
good luck to all longs
thanks, to you and all longs
as someone said, patience is a virtue ... hard thing for people to have in our " modern " society. they see the drop and get scared. we are all different ... good luck to all longs