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fmcct leading the way again
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=FMCCT
you'd think there would be some end of year sell-off, but not this time
"Nice AIG Ad"
When AIG sold their warrants, did the preferreds get any?
"t-fud index at 6.09%"
All good observations taint. I'd like to be optimistic, however I've been there before too. Wouldn't mind a stead uptick in prices through 2013.
"How much are the warrants worth for companies that can bring in 5 to 10 billion each year? Using p/e of 8 the us gov should get another 64 bill from selling warrants."
So in essence, the government has the choice of:
1) Sell warrants for 64B and getting their money back sooner, or
2) Sell warrants for 64B and getting an extra 64B profit later.
4 cents, I followed ld here also, about november 2011
This so sucks:
Replacing the current fixed dividend in the PSPAs
with a variable dividend based on net worth will help to ensure stability, fully capture financial
benefits for taxpayers, and eliminate the need for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to continue to
borrow from the Treasury Department to pay dividends.
Okay, please and thank you.
Can someone explain in English what this means?
Doubt it, in the DC area we're making plans to experience 3-6 months of pain. Thankfully, or not, I'm employed. I say "or not" because of the excessive hours I am working.
Merry Christmas everyone. Keep it on 4 wheels.
Thanks for letting me know. On a typical 160 hour work month, I am working about 260 hours competiting to stay employed if the fiscal cliff thing happens. That's why sometimes I get on the board and ask questions without contributing. Just over whelmed and Christmas just 2 days away.
so will we or won't we get our freaking divvies?
Many federal and DoD contractors will start 2013 out unemployed.
What interest rate will be paid to us CT holders when they pay us our back divvies? Will it be the dividend percent, such as 6.25%, or current interest rates such as 1.5% ?
WTF, it's not unusual, it's never been heard of.
I don't think the F&F stock are related to the fiscal cliff. Investors/gamblers may be waiting for news about what will be done with the jr preferred shares. Also, it is possible that trading is being done on other stocks while waiting for F&F to come around. 2015 is possible for an outcome for F&F. We may already be seeing some slow buy-in.
thanks jersey and letgo
I own CTs and never got W9s or anything else in the mail. Should I be worried?
In preferreds only, haven't looked at commons yet
I think the fat guy with the cigar is gmonkeylove, his avatar was a girl in ponytails.
first time I've ever seen something like that
"wants to abolish government-controlled mortgage-finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac but also opposes replacing them with a new system of federal support for home loans""
Can Hensarling really abolish f&f?
"It is vital to the long-term health of our country's housing and financial markets that our elected leaders seek to bring the conservatorships to a conclusion, and to define the government's role and requirements for housing finance in the future," DeMarco said."
The sooner the better.
"http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=81831091"
Does this help us out?
"http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=81831091"
Does this help us out?
"Per the POR, equity interest owns the residual assets! The gift! "
This is why the CTs are not specifically included in the POR, we already are by way of the gift.
I'm beginning to think this whole sweep of profits from f&f to treasury was just a distraction. If this case is settled and f&f win, there's the payback right there. They knew this was coming.
"Do you think that the diagram on page 14 of the asn ipo indicates cts may get stock in asn for the past divis ? "
If they roll our divies into Archstone don't you think they would also roll our shares? Like, why separate them?
That is a lot. Time will tell if this buy position will sell out at $5 or stay for the long haul.
His speech started out with housing, makes sense.
Is this why the Freddies are up so much today?
A class of stock is a class of stock is a class of stock. They aren't going to take a class of stock and divide it into 2 parts - those that bought before bk and those that bought after bk. They have to treat all shares in a class of stock the same way.
I don't get why they announced a sweep that would not take affect for 9 months. It's almost as if they wanted to wait until after the election, and then not do it.
" Because of notice that says shareholder will buy arcstone properties if needed tells us many things. They are supposed to buy it between June 1, 2013 and Dec 31, 2013. They are planing to pay off the POR before June 1, 2013. Because the OBS will have 1.7 billion to buy it if I remember correctly"
So much vodka, so little time. What does that mean for us CTers?
That is all true unless the real plan is to exercise the warrants to payback the tax payers sooner.
What a WIN that was.
After all, if they're going to pay us the dividends anyway, why wait until march 2013 when they can pay it in december 2013 for the better tax advantage. Of course, I don't know much.
I think we get the all the dividends owed to us as a Christmas bonus.
". At this time it is not anticipated that any distribution will be made to the LBHI Plan Trust or to any beneficiary of the LBHI Plan Trust.
"
they have to say that to protect themselves