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Roni. In the interest of trying to understand can you outline a few examples of 'criminal ' behavior. You make it sound like Carlos ' took' the company from you. Why have you only bright this up since the summer ?
It's been since 2012 since Carlos took the reigns?
Why is it you blame Carlos but BK has had his shady hands on dealings, money grabbing and making loans like the one with Anon and you hadnt brought any negative tones or disagreements with that? It's inly Carlos Carkos Carlos? Did you lose your Cadillac in a bet?
My opinion. Yes Carkos should have been on top of the dealings and such but shed some light to all of us on examples of criminal activity.
And don't just say ' he bought the commonly illegally' There is no reference and its hearsay. Enlighten us.
GL. You say you know a lot but it sometimes remains to be seen.
Question. Where do you read or get info that biomass is not safe? Here is some light reading.
http://www.gasification.org/what-is-gasification/gasification-vs-incineration/
I understand having an industrial plant coming into your neighborhood is not desirable. But gasification is much safer and cleaner than incineration.
Incorrect.
IP
Management, maybe for a mature company but any tech company in its infancy needs to have IP to add value to get funding. If you have ever been involved with creating a small company, you would know the methods for starting a company.
If you have ever pitched for funding or gone for seed rounds you would know this.
Larger companies are different and I agree management is key.
Small companies need to add value by creating ip and setting the stage for initial product.
While that may sound like I'm describing Bion, it is also the description of how one goes about starting a company.
It also shows how you are just disgruntled about Carlos. I'm not saying he is the best ( as you keep implying that we worship him), I AM saying he is trying to create value.
Lastly if you or ANon would take over the commonly and try to start this all over it would be years before you create the networks that have been created.
Again. This is not a slam dunk and they have their challenges in front of them. But just saying you would put new management in place or anon will get the patents and poof we go forward, gets u nothing and most likely would stop any advancement or use of the patents. You would still lose. And so would 'anon' whoever they are
If you were an investor, what would you look for in a new company, say a startup company? How would you say startup companies 'get money' and what allows them to get more money or gives the company more value?
Roni. What would you say the highest value of any company is?
What do you mean your life and many others are at stake?
GL. This may sound 'coarse'. And I apologize up front. But this is business. We don't know the terms of the loan, other agreements being put into place or true amounts of cash on hand. I have opinions as do others here.
Are there people that pop in and say they are owed? Yes. Are they real ? Maybe and most likely. But starting a business is difficult and these decisions of paying late or owing vendors is all part of the game of business. It sucks to be on the reviving side as you are owed but there are only a few things you can do. Sue and hope you get a few thousand on what's owed, drop it and realize it's a total loss or work to provide new terms to see the company survive and possibly get your money owed.
You'll notice one person was on here saying he was owed money but he was also calling out roni as an imposter. Not saying is or isn't. But it sounded like he/she was a little more level headed.
All in all this is business. There are many factors that I have seen and experienced both in companies and investing. Playing with terms and cash flow is difficult especially at the starting phase.
If it's too much for you I suggest you pull out and each how things transpire. This is business and if you have ever been involved you would understand a little more that's going on and that not everything can be divulged to you or us investors.
There is a lot of info in the reports and the press releases that address your concerns. Not explicitly. But it's there. You can choose to read it / believe it or not. There is no need for capitalizing as we all have concerns. But you should calm down a bit and understand you could lose everything or patiently wait to see how this plays out. I choose the latter. Not saying I'm right or wrong. It's my choice. I how for the best and see some good signs.
Good luck
GL. Why are you fixating on the land only?
Audit and uplisting will solidify quite a few more opportunities along with possibly getting more funding and strategic partnership.
Land is a dime a dozen down in Florida. Looks to me the new owners of the land are required to take over any loan / debts.
They still have the loan extension to use so long as they find property in the same county. At least that's how I'm taking it.
The EPC will have to be updated but this should be minor as the EPC is supposed to be a standard cookie cutter interface to any land parcels they move into ( with changes to minor traffic routing and utility interfacing). That's my opinion or how I had seen it.
Anyway. Not sure why you are capping on just the land portion.
Or it could be someone disgruntled selling small lots to scare
That's just a guess. We have a few people that may have shares and are not happy with the company.
Great find yesterday though.
Wow. Reference 2 says it all in the documents.
And who is Victor Gomes ....
So much potential...
I just hope they get their act together and have some vision into things before they get out of control / more harmful.
It's business. They don't or cannot divulge certain info
It also could be done to protect them or progress outside of the lawsuit until it's taken care of.
It's not that uncommon to be hush hush prior to starting a plant.
So if everyone is speculating... I'll jump in with a speculation. Bionitrogen also does pyrolysis. That's what their technology is all about. And they take that gas (syngas) and convert it into fertilizer.
Sooooo a lot of PhDs on both boards / advisors and such. Just speculating but .... Could they all be in this together somehow. Hmmmm. Perhaps do the pyrolysis part first then implement the fertilizer later.
Speculating. Looks funny that they have the exact same process with the feedstock turning into syngas. The syngas can be made into anything... Including fertilizer. But it is energy.
Just saying.
GL. I don't think we should be fixating on the loan. It's a year away before it's due.
I can't find where it says bion is looking for alternate property...
I looked at both latest links you sent. Can you point to the area where it says they are looking for another piece of property?
The sky is falling!!! Jeesh!
Per the 8k
A) the 100 million is not convertible unless the company is liquidated. Even then it doesn't say 5 shares to 1 b share. It states 5 votes per b share. See section 4 &5.
B) there is 1, ONE, lawsuit right now. Not multiple as if the heresay that is being thrown around on a chat room is evidence of more.
C) they updated us 2-3 weeks ago. Did you happen to catch that ? They are not here to spoon feed you every minute. If they are spending their time getting their ducks in a row to get the first plant going, then I'm all for it.
I agree that OS is steadily increasing but the notion we need a reverse split is just a frantic baseless statement with disappointment in the performance.
We still can meet the QB requirements and adding certain people to the board, consistent 8k and 10q filings and a price over .01 supporting the uplisting.
This is a penny stock. This stock has provided a lot more info than many other pennies.
It's not all roses but it's a hell of a lot better than some of you naysayers are preaching.
End of year will determine our demise.
Which paper? I thought you said you don't trust the papers? Obviously they are getting their info from somewhere. So let's try to confirm if it's real or not.
So wait. You don't see the progress that has happened over a 2-3 year time frame? I can understand sub one year, but this is not the case over a longer scale.
My opinion of course.
I wouldn't worry about that or the other company moving in taking up supplies.
BRM is contracted to take care of that and most likely they would have a set price for a year or two. The other company would have to perform or has performed this same feasibility study. If anything it shows biomass availability is prevalent since another company wants to move into the area.
I believe this is the link you wanted to send... GL was talking about competition for biomass not supplying the / distributing the fertilizer. ( United suppliers will distribute the output)
Bio resource will provide the feedstock input
http://m.marketwired.com/press-release/bionitrogen-corporation-signs-agreement-with-bioresource-management-inc-management-logistics-pinksheets-bion-1775416.htm
Everybody is frustrated GL. Even Roni...
How much does bion 'owe' you?
Good luck with thy thought. When it doesn't I'd like to hear your thoughts.
Wait. You think there is a chance this would go to 0.01 prior to RS? Do you realize how many shares would have to be purchased in that time frame?
Some of you people are smoking crack. Go ahead and label people ' haters' but what is the opposite ? Hypsters and hypothetical wonders?
I'm all for Mine going up but u just paint yourself as delusional. Good luck
A lot of funny trades ( sells) all in a small time span...
Infancy yes but you brought up the point that marketing isn't really happening. Perhaps they are waiting for a blitz at some point ? Not sure.
But there isn't a lot of effort right now.
This whole RS and increase in 'reserved ' shares is a big pile of ####. I don't know how anyone can paint this in a positive way unless they are going to average down themselves and forget about ( or have sold) all their pre RS shares. It's n t good no matter how anyone paints it. Ugh
Perfect!
Can u run the same analytics on Ice and a few others?
Alright.... Who's messing with my weekend already!!??
Vanis reported Avanzar pulling in 450k a month... Is this still true? I admit I haven't looked at any of Qs lately only because of the dismal performance.
Not to mention adding a few a few more 100s of millions of AS shares post split.
Salt in the wound.
Will people eventually make money? Probably, but this promise of 'reserves' shares was made before. I had mentioned dilution.... But many cheerleaders said ' no way'. Sure enough dilution. Now a RS and another potential to dilute.
Will people make money ? Probably but waaaaay down the line after RS and some more slow dilution. Anyone who bought a penny or above pre split will never see their money again. Oh... But buy more and average down... Suuuurrreeee.
Good luck all. I feel suckered
Can someone point to where the share increase will happen? Pre or post R/S?
Perfect!
When you find you have knawed off your fingernails into finger nubs. .. That's probably when no news is not good news
Opinions are one thing. But coming on to this board or any other and claiming your opinion is fact without doing due diligence is another.
Bingoooooooo
So if you're saying the annon case will make them bankrupt then will you get anything ????
Also.. My question still stands. If you are owed 55% what would you do with the company? Do you know anything about the technology or running a business ? Just asking for some of your credentials
I'm sorry roni. A lot of speculation and throwing out all this illegal this and that statements. If you are the Ron Fussman you claim to be, your past doesn't paint you as a very truthful voice.
There is only one lawsuit right now. Everything else you say is just words in a chat room. If you put up any document, maybe there would be some validity to your statements ( about what you are owed). But lawsuit talk is nothing and just speculation.
Also.. Emails do not constitute valid legal forms of contracts, voting etc. Even if an email went to the wrong party , it doesn't matter as it would just be taken as a No response especially if there was a date the response was supposed to be received.
Just my observations. Not saying I'm wrong or right but this is a stock bulletin board.
So... Just asking... The breaches of agreements are between you and the company?
And if you were to get 55% of the shares... What are you going to do with the company ?
Gator lady. This is a BION board. Not Saipem. There is no correlation of this case to BION. Saipem is a big company as stated and the business between BION and Saipem will continue.
Let me as you... Is Chevrolet in trouble ? Are you not going to be able to buy GM cars? Because they are getting sued for the key debacle.
How about BP gas... Are you able to get gas from BP still?
Those are a couple of analogies of how big these companies are.
How's your echecks doing...? Better check yourself before you bounce.
How could you even? Psssssshhhh
Good luck and you're welcome.