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The 100 share undercutting bid whacker is back, he was late to work today because of the storm. Ted and the 3 other listed employees have just returned from a purchasing field trip, and are pleased to report the acquisition of 4 spade shovels, 2 pick axes and a wheelbarrow..LOL...just kidding you guys, this is getting too boring AND PREDICTABLE HERE. I WAS TRYING TO AD SOME HUMOR. fINALLY I GOT SOFTWARE ISSUES FIXED AND CAN NOW SEE THE TRADES. Overall markets are down, NT@K is was down to 0.08, I got out at 0.14...whew..that one was close. Now I'm not sorry I sold it and put some money in here.
I am glad we are in agreement. I want nothing more than to see shorty get burned, ruined etc., and that the 100 share undercutter is hung out to dry in federal court. I got into this with the perpective that it was NOT going to be a get rich quick scheme...but I have had to keep averaging down to these levels, I still plan on being a Long interest player here, but I am hoping that this will turn in a handsome profit later this year.
THL, I have no clue, who would be selling into the buyback, makes no sense to me. It also makes no sense to me from my meager understanding of economic theory to stack the ask, the trades so far are showing people on the ask at T5 selling into T4. The only pressure we shareholders have is to hold the majority of our shares and to keep the ask thin. There are those that will try to flip this on a daily basis, but that has lead us down to t2 in the past, or put us in the ridiculous situation that you could buy but you could not sell. All the manipulation to keep this down has generated a lot of fear and people find that they sold at 4 but could not buy back at 3, and this has happened with every tick from T2. Once this clears T6 with some volume I think we'll be in a better place and "normal" trading will be more possible. Now, every small bid whack brings it back to T3, happened already this morning. And the question is, who is undercutting the price and selling at T3 when the bid is t4 or at t5??
I really don't think stacking the ask is a good idea, especially when people are selling into the bid. Look how small the bid has become. Supply and demand, I think the shareholders can control the supply, hold for higher ground, keep the ask thin at this point, don't sell into the bid. This going to move up, we have enough problems with the 100 share bid whacker, but over the past few weeks we have been able to move that bid whack up along with the prevailing price. My shares are not in play.
With the ask 4x the size of the bid we'll soon see the ask drop to T4, if you want to see this go up, pull your sell orders and thin out the ask, hold your shares until we see T6 and T7, if not, the 100 share bid whacker is gonna beat us and take us down to T3 again.
With the ask 4x the size of the bid we'll soon see the ask drop to T4, if you want to see this go up, pull your sell orders and thin out the ask, hold your shares until we see T6 and T7, the 100 share bid whacker is gonna beat us and take us down to T3 again.
Someone please tell me why this stock keeps going down, I got out at around 14, now I see its less that 10..what gives?
I know this is going to go real big a 10 bagger, but the anticipation is killing me....gotta find some more cash to buy more shares and soon.
GMA, looks like a good opening, be patient a little longer and keep the size of the ask down. We need some buys on the 5's. If your buying get em now, I think we'll see a rise after report comes out. But if there is little buying and the ask is too big compared to the size of the bid we'll go back to T3 and T4...IMHO
There may have been a momentary computer glitch , all my quotes on my ticker went to ??? marks, but look like we closed at T5...hurray!!
So happy to see T5, which is my break even point BTW, that should explain a lot of my posts, I just hope folks do not sell into the bid here, right now the bid has shrunk, but I think it will rise if sellers hold their ground on 5, and of course we'll be visited by the D&S people, bashers etc..we'll also see fake trades going to drive us back to 3, all depends what the people holding the shares do with them IMO
That's OK. Have you been able to get 3's? Has anyone on the board gotten 3's? How many on the board are or have been trying to get 3's???? I must admit that I have been tempted, but because I'd have to sell 4's inorder to buy 3's I think its too risky as volume is way down and 3's don't seem to be getting filled. I don't want to risk my shares on a stupid little play as an experiment! I don't want my shares in play, to be borrowed against etc. I do wonder what the effect would be if a bunch of us put in sell orders at T7 up to 0.001. How would the L2 look to the MM's and shorts then?
That is not what I see on the daily trades from my broker, took a quick look and there were a few trades that went 1 mil plus at T3? But I don't think retail is getting 3's with any regularity. I just don't see retail selling at T4 at this point in time or worse selling into the bid at T3.
Well, lets just see what happens when the incredibly thin 4's get taken out, I'm skeptical, and Ithink they will get replenished, but I do hope we move up to 5's. Moving up to 5 would show people holding their shares until news comes out.
So far today volume is significantly down, Longs and mid term investors and traders are NOT on the ask. I have been a proponent of holding onto shares thereby reducing the ask. I see it as supply and demand, also MM and NSS on the bid, don't help them out by putting shares in play. I believe the bid and ask are both fictious at this point and a lot of wash trades are going thru to try and panic shareholders into selling at a loss, and also giving shorts an opportunity to cover. I am extremely disappointed that the promised filing has not materialized yet, but the news is heavily anticipated by all.
IHUB did something with their software, I can't get the trades page to work under the detailed quote link. The security certs are not proper or signed, I tried installing updates etc and still can't get it to work, I even relaxed security and active x controls on my system, still no dice, can't get streaming trades.
No news since Friday, no filing as promised, so the big circle jerk continues between the MM's and friends.
The price was up 91 and then it dropped , what kind of Jackass sells at 77 when the price was at 91????
Hi Mik, no they are not, I had to buy back in at a loss of shares.
Sorry you feel that way, we are all frustrated, but there is a little battle going on here, shorts and MM trying to keep this down and wanting to cover at T3, retail et al not willing to sell below T4 for the majority, there be some funny games going back and forth allowing some 3's to go thru, IMO , we will reset the bottom at t4 or t5, and we think shorty may just get burned here.
Hold your shares, don't sell into the bid, don't sell below T5 or T6
Last trade was at 2:29, an hour ago...
I agree, obviously there is a lot of resistance by sellers to reduce the price and sell at T3. Buy at the ASK ,make the size of the ask disappear one way or another and those sitting on T3 ( which I bet is heavily populated by shorty) will have to capitulate and move up or cover higher, IMO, but slappin the ask is always better for creating momentum and increasing confidence.
Notice the time between trade with all those shares on the bid, I have not heard anyone trumpeting on this board how they are willing to sell shares at T3. So where are the 3's coming from when the few trades that happen there get executed? That bid whacking program, is responsible for stacking the bid to some extent by getting people's hopes up, so they support the bid and add drag to the stock at this point. We need a GAP up here to break this thing.
well, if like me you are resigned to the probability of not getting orders filled on the 3, modify your order or pull your shares out of play, move some of the order up to the ask, if you are selling raise the ask, leave the area of 3 and 4 all alone to the crosstraders. We are stuck in an artificial situation created by n100 share bid whacks under cutting the ask by 1 or 2 sometimes 3 points. People that have the time to watch this Kabuki dance. Know whats going on, the guys that only get to check once or twice per day, probably don't undestande that its those 100 share whacks screwing up all the trading for retail. We all move our expectations up 2 points and we start to break the log jam,IMHO
By my rough count about 10.7 mill or more traded thru at T3, out of the total volume, Does L2 which of the players got the 3's, I bet it wasn't individual, retail, that got those 3's.
The Bid whacker has bid whacked this down with 100 share buys to3 when sales were going on at 5. Chnge your ask price to5 at least. There are not that many on the ASK, keep supply low and the price has to go up, raise the ask or hold for higher ground, AIMHO
No I am not out, put out, but not out of GNCP, holding my shares, frustrated by trading pattern of late. I see it as too much of a risk trying to trade now, especially to try and sell at the ask and buy back at the bid...there is too much of an imbalance in the bid and ask, and right now I think its a good thing that the BID has been immensely larger than the ASK. Eventually , people will figure out that chances are they are not going to get filled on the bid, and perhaps loose the shares they "sold". A small ask but a fairly firm ask, without a lot of selling into the bid, the bid price has to come up. If a lot of resistance is encountered by the manipulators, maybe they will move on and let this stock breath. Regardless of what you think of the company, the stock should be trading significantly higher from these levels. If all stock holders here would take a vacation from all trading on this stock for a day or two and volumes significantly fell, then the shorts can not cover, thry are trying desperately to cover at T3 and T4. Selling and trying to buy at these levels are not good for the individual investor.
No such luck, I think we open at T4 tomorrow, unless thre is something really good in the report.I think it would be smart to cancel all bids at T3 and lower and all sells at T4 and T5. If it gaps up in the morning that could really be a problem for folks with GTC orders in to sell at T4 and T5. Supply and demand should tell us that have an interest in the price going up, not to get greedy now, to not stack the ask at these low levels.
Get the bastards real nervous and decrease the size of the ask, bid sitters and shorts....Oh no ....the ask is going away...to higher regions.
These guys are all self made small business owners that put their heads together and seem to have been trying to do honest business, they are not flashy, they are fairly typical small business men, the new CFO has been with them and they have been improving their business. No big scandals, no bad debt, they have customers, are making money the old fashioned way, they earn it. Something I think we can all support.
Good insight there, old tailing piles from primitive mining days can be Gold just Layin on the Ground.....
Holy Moly, NT3K, is crashin, I got out at a few days ago, I'd feel a lot better if the rate of trade picked up here at good ole GNCP. What's it like watching the value of the stock fluctuate a thousand or thousands of dollars with every single tick? I'm glad I don't have more invested here with all this going on.
Well you got filled last minute yesterday didn't you? Probably the same thing will happen today too.
Quit Blaming Moe and Curly...its Shemp! Gosh Dammit, Shemp is the one fer sure.
what does the L2 tell us? Who is refilling the ASK, 5+ mil shares sold at T3 and the ask is at 12 mil, how does that work unless.....its being refilled by the MM or panicked sellers....
This game only changes if they actually start producing and selling oil and gas, so far, they have disappointed us time and time again....but alas, hope springs eternal.
LOL, the bid is almost 10x the ask, don't stack the ask....let em run out of 4's and 5's, hold
Well it may be a good opportunity for some to load up at T4, lets have a good laugh today at how many will be stuck on the bid at T3 and not get filled.
At least the ask is relatively small, thin, whatever, peeps stay off the ASK at 4, we should be on six or 7 by now...I pulled my dogs out of the hunt 2 days ago, but I'm going to try and trade or flip until we get this thing solidly in place at higher levels and there is a good amount of normal fair trading going back and forth. Right now they have it rigged so if you sell you will loose your shares unless you buy them back at the price you sold them or higher.
Boy these guys are really playin dirty, they let thru one sale at T3 to drop the bid and ask, and create panic...and all the sheep play right into there hands, the only way to support the stock right now is to not sell..