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The takings would occur on the very first penny paid to the treasury that is over the amount owed. We could also name the congress people who prepared the bill. That would put a face on it.
Who just got thrown out?
Seems all Fannie can do is NOT file the q4 withou the DTAs, as their accounts don't agree to the accounting.
Thx ld. I wrote to the email address provided and asked them as well. I don't think anything is coming this April 4, maybe a partial, but could be by September. With the CTs it is hard to say.
Argus, are these for capital trust shares?
I apologize for misspelling your name.
Jersey hog, just though that my CTs didn't require me to fill out paperwork. Would just like to verify that I don't have to.
This sounds like blackmail, er, negotiation. If F&F want to use DTAs then they have to accept the write downs.
I don't want a surprise, I want my freaking dividends. I own CTs only and have not been sent anything to me personally saying I have to fill out paperwork. Advice?
Why would anyone make a deal to allow a principle write down to get the dta? F&F should not have to absorb the losses of a principle write down at all - let the banks absorb it if anyone has to.
Would you sell at these prices believing that in 1 month we'll hear about the dividends?
They'll give themselves the chance.
At least they have got it down to %131 Billion
There's the line of crap we've been looking for.
Looks to me like we're stuck.
Hot dog, now we're talking. I like the work DeMarco has done, not his delisting of the stock, and if this rumor is true, I don't like that at all. We'll find out soon enough.
I was trying to be humble. I like your idea better.
I imagine that if they announce the CTs get dividends, then they go to a least $5
Congrats SA, you've done well in commons.
I really don't see a bitch slap in the cards for us this time.
I expect the 50s to close above 6 this week
except for fmckj evening up with fnmas, so far we're off to a positive start
i buy lehnq fine with etrade. Although I notice that the trading does not seem to start until the afternoon. We like lehnq for possibility of getting 20 quarters of dividends (probably later this year) and the face value of $25, if they have enough money left over to pay us, which seems more and more possible over time. Figure dividends at $9 payout since they are cumulative.
The railroad situation turned out well. I don't know of any other precedent that they can follow.
Scope, responsibility, deliverables
Stockholders own them, government provides policy. So there was a taking of the stockholders assets.
Okay, I still don't get this thing about Winstar. Can someone please explain?
What about the railroads?
They haven't paid the taxpayers back in full, yet.
In English, what is this winstar case?
They may not be allowed to buy, especially if they have insider knowledge.
Looks like I got that backwards, no surprise. Look at the total value column next to the shares owned after sell column. Looks like they're only selling a few, and keeping the bulk of them.
It looks like they're selling off the bulk of their shares, but keeping just a few.
Looks like this is for preferreds and commons, but not CTs.
Taint - did not hear about your Italian trip. Have fun though.
About 2 tax seasons ago, I did all my research manually. It's a drag, but it can be done.
Wrong again Joe. Fannie is going to pay back the gov't real quick.
It could have happened a couple of years ago. The only reason it took this long is because congress tried to think of every idea they could come up with to steal F&F away from shareholders and give it to their banking buddies. Deal is, F&F are the one and only deal in town. They now accept this, so now they're coming up with this happy story and that happy story to explain it all. We're close folks.
The August thing occurred because of the sudden change of taking away th 10% divvy and shoving all profits to treasury.
Durango is always good, it's a muscle suv, kinda like F&F muscling their way back to respectability
ckk is up now 82 cents to 5.25. nice going