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Let me put it in simple terms.... the share price is considerably less than it was 4 years ago.....and it isn't because they haven't made GIANT leaps with Recaf. Are you going to blame the shareholders for wanting to know the future of the company. They are no different than giving your money to a bank. Are you going to just hand over your money without a monthly or quarterly statement? If they don't want to send out a press release because of cost I am very worried about our financial situation. They are holding off till their is big news, but they haven't learned that they are better off sending us the message that things are going well and this is where we are at, this is where we progressed, and this is where we are hoping to be. The SEC is not going to repimand you for a shareholder update, but the shareholders will reprimand you for not doing one. I only spend time at I_Hub because I know they read this.
It's called common sense and they may be very intelligent as far as dynamics in science but that doesn't automatically make you a brilliant businessman. They have have been flying by the seat of their pants up to this point. Experience is what is needed. Dr Moro is preoccupied and Wittenberg is practicing dentistry and as far as Terry he is only doing what is told and cannot take it upon himself to do anything. I have every right to complain. If any of you knew how many shares I have accumulated you would be just as bewildered with their lack of shareholder updates. I entrusted them and I am not complaining about the progress made with the science, what I have said over and over is how poorly they have been with sharing their accomplishments and where we are going. They really need to do something soon.
Can you honestly say management is doing a good job? Even a mediocre job? I would say that they have earned a reputation with shareholders as rock bottom as far as shareholder relations. I personally think that they have been way over confident and their malaise is costing us big time. They are assuming we are content with knowing they have 2 deals in progress. Well, they have raised so many unanswered questions that it is a slap in the face at this point. They seem to miss every opportunity available to them.
They fail to see the importance of following thru with updates, explanations, and future goals. There seems to be no organizational skills. The silence will always scare investors, that's why I don't understand their rationale. They seem to be their own worst enemy. It is sad that we could have easily approached the 5 dollar mark if they understood the dynamics of proper shareholder relations. They wait for a knock out punch but never follow thru by continously swinging. I feel they would be much better off swinging away than saving up for a knock out.
They should have insisted on being there since they have made no mention on their website. Why is management so timid? If I had discovered Recaf I would act as if I am holding all the cards. They need to clear the air and we need to have a conference call for our investors. We need some of our questions answered only if it serves toward goodwill. They continuously miss opportunities to reignite our passion and continue to leaves us high and dry. They should at least write a small passage explaining to us why the silence. The silence should be looked upon as good news because something is brewing, not that it has been a bad thing.
Anyone wishing to hear the Inverness conference call and maybe participate with questions about BioCurex at the end of the call. Here's your link to access.
http://www.veracast.com/webcasts/ml/globalpharma08/81102144.cfm
Just fill in the blanks and you are good to go. I am hopeful that we will be mentioned as their newest cancer diagnostic biomarker.
Let's all keep the faith. This is going to be our year.
If they are answering questions at the meeting someone should ask IMA at the meeting about BioCurex to start a discussion about us. I would just ask them why they haven't disclosed the deal with BioCurex to their shareholders or made any announcement about the deal to the media at large. Someone should be there to represent us. There are so many wasted opportunities it has been a total disaster. Management gives us shareholders the feeling they are incompetent. We shouldn't have to hold their hand and tell them how to negotiate or attract new investors. If they don't want to publicly speak to the media because of disclosures in their licensing agreements tell the shareholders either thru a press release or a direct mailling to its shareholders.
If I was running the company I would take responsibility for the share price and restore investor confidence which obviously faded as seen by our recent share price. The best way to do this is for BioCurex to schedule a conference call with its shareholders to answer any questions or concerns about the future.
There has been a total disregard for shareholder relations. Everything is a secret with them. All they have to do is send a message that they are resticted from talking about certain things and give us an explanation.
I feel many of us on I-hub care more about seeing this company succeed than Wittenberg. He has failed and at any any other company would have been ousted. I propose that he receive a salary and will only be granted more warrants for free shares only if he attains certain goals such as the share price being higher than 4 dollars (where it was almost 5 years ago).
I know I'm not the only one disgusted at this point with the lack of interaction with shareholders. I tell Terry almost weekly and he always says they plan on doing something about it but time keeps going by and nothing ever happens. I would like management to have a conference call and let them answer our questions once and for all. It would create so much goodwill and reassure all of us longs. Even if a question was posed and they could not answer it, at least we would know they are restricted from answering.
If enough of us ask Terry we could convince them. Remember strength in numbers.
Moro has to speak up! He has to say there was no mention on their website and it will only get evryone excited. Everyone benefits. Our shareholders and theirs. It is an abomination that these things aren't covered during the negotiations or an upfront royalty should have been considered to get rid of the loan sharks.
Since the Inverness deal there must have been over a million shares thrown back at the market. It seems unsustainable, but it has been relentless. There is a definite attempt to hold back the share price.
He reads this.
And they were published with much less stellar results in the Journal for American Cancer Research. Very frustrating.
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Why do we have to continue to see this go without someone FROM BioCurex, not a shareholder, respond to these press releases. Terry, that's your cue to do something. Write them immediately and set up an interview.
Now does everyone understand how much of a failure there is to communicate by our management?
I think that because of his actions and the share price as low as it is, he realizes he doesn't deserve any more free shares to add to his millions. He would put shareholders in an uproar with all of this dilution.
The last thing on my mind is whether or not the technology works. It has been proven countless times independant of in house testing..So, there was no misleading any venture capitalist. The problem is they don't now how to sell and unfortunately for shareholders they don't understand the magnitude of them failing to promote the science.
Why is there never any follow thru or update from management after any news? I am on my rant again about how management cannot see the importance of shareholder relations. Whatever strategy they have is a total failure. It's time for them to reignite interest. Silence is doomed to failure.
This is what happens when you make a deal with the devil. The shareholders are paying in the end.
The bid has bumped up against any ask all day. It is killing me to see the ask not being raised accordingly.
I especially like the volume picking up.
We break .75 we are well on our way to .80. We hit .80 we will break a dollar. It's inevitable. IMO, last chance to buy is today. Better than 3% in the bank and interest is taxed like earned income as opposed to capital gains tax. Very compelling.
Gold, you certainly know your stuff. I hate this manipulation. Next big news should come on the first of the month now that we can expect the hedge funds to control the share price at the end of the month.
Mcd, I appreciate your efforts. We are basically like politicians right now. We have to continuously get the message out to anyone willing to listen. I have never had anyone I told about BioCurex not respond by asking why haven't I seen or heard anything about this in the newspapers or on television? It gives everyone a feeling that it makes no sense that Recaf hasn't been publicized and put on the fast track by the FDA. Most have done their homework and have invested. Some people think it is speculative and others see it as their lottery ticket. I just want as many people to hear about us as possible and let them decide for themselves.
We need to make our partnership known to new investors. Inverness has not commented what so ever about us. It was bad enough with Abbott, but we could get FREE promotion of the highest caliber if they speak about Recaf at the Merrill Lynch conference.
It is so important to have Biocurex mentioned at that meeting. Terry, please have Dr Moro there if you have to, but this is a golden opportunity to get some deep pockets on board. We have to let the right investors know about our technology.
There is an endless supply of stock at .70. I tried to push it up twice with 10000 at market, but it refills. It shows only 2500@ .70 the 2500@ .73 then 2500@ .77 the 2500@ .80. I thought I could push us up to .80 by market order. I think we should all pick a time and all put a market order in at the same time. If twenty people did it all at the same time we would have to force it higher. Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but I like strength in numbers.
bid .685 give me a break. savings of .005 cents on 2500 shares really is a brilliant move. No takers, but watch it will fill at .63 cents
There will be moral implications.
For some reason .70 cents is where they don't want the price to exceed, and they continue to flood the market with shares lowering the ask every single time. It looks like we are going to break >70 and the ask goes down. This is bull***t.
Wittenberg made a deal with the devil. These are loan sharks. I like the idea of a bridge loan. The other thing he could have done was negotiate the 3 million upfront from inverness. At least he wouldn't have diluted the stock another 6 million shares with an equal amount of warrants attached. They are the headwinds we have seen. Everyone including Dr Moro expected us to be well over 2 dollars at this point.
I would have to say that IMO you are definitely correct. This will affect the future of medicine in so many different ways. IMO, the insurance companies will push doctors to use Recaf to save billions, and patients would never hesitate when they hear the benefits and will have piece of mind that they don't have cancer.
Fact..... they will keep lowering the ask to keep the share price from rising.
The manipulation is in full swing. They will sell at .64 cents but not at .69. They are are selling the shares to themselves. They go back and forth. Buy in one account sell in another account, then reverse the process. It should against the law. We will face headwinds till he pays off these loan sharks. Eventually, the volume will not allow this to continue and they will have to face the music.
I agree that it is easy for any of us to criticize without all of the details. I just want them to stop attracting daytraders. I think it is not possible and it is wrong for our CFO to hold a position of this stature and continue practicing dentistry. I said it many times that the share price is his report card. Would any of you give him a passing grade? I think the article with Terry does so much more than diluting shares with penny rags.
He should understand that the more MEDIA exposure the more affect it has and it reaches MORE people, some which would be very interested in investing.
Wittenberg can have all the FREE media coverage he wants. It's there if he only would ask, but it is much easier to go back to his old ways and pay Shazam or The Green Baron,ect. The names of those wastes of money alone would have caused me to not take any information from seriously, let alone take stock advice.
It is never too late to take the high road, get the proper media coverage, and send Dr Moro to more high profile cancer meetings.
Mick, that was 2 1/2 years ago and the share price was double what it is today. We won't be under a dollar much longer. We are finally growing legs and the hedge fund will soon run out of ammunition. They will eventually be forced to let this stock rise when the volume becomes too great for them to continue this charade. I guarantee the ask and bid tomorrow will be manipulated as usual, but I expect with all my bitching about management we will see an update very soon, and this will reignite the momentum. This is a tricky market right now and unfortunately not all of the BioCurex shareholders know about i-hub, so they are out of the loop and the shareholder update will be the correct medicine. Just like the markets needed an interest cut last week to stimulate the economy and restore confidence, we need a shareholder update to restore our confidence in management.
I want everyone to know that all my efforts to help BioCurex may or may not have an impact on their future, but at least I know that I tried. The past will soon be the past and we will all have alot to be excited about. Warren Buffett known for his savvy investor style has one condition. If you don't understand the company and what they do, don't invest. Well, I certainly know enough about the technology and with Inverness at our side to aid us in getting this to market we are destined for great things. I don't want to sound negative about management, but that is the only weak link. When I found out Wittenberg was still practicing it just made no sense.
The person running BioCurex and making financial decisions will affect our future can not be preoccupied with another career. This is not a hobby or a side job. It has a direct impact on the direction of the company. I call Terry regularly and I will force them to address its shareholders. Terry knows my intentions are to make this a world class large cap company, and personally, I never feel like I wasted a minute trying to help them. After all, I have over the years put my money where my mouth is and have continuously added to my position.
We better have air tight patents on recaf, because all of the pharmaceutical companies will want to use recaf to target their drugs.
As soon as recaf is approved, I would invest in the healthcare insurers, because they will save billions in unnecessary testing and surgery.
There will be a moral issue among the healthcare providers, because recaf will eliminate the need for pap smears, mamograms, colonoscopies, thyroid biopsies, and a number of other routine abused tests. This in turn will lead to substantially fewer surgeries and will result in lower salaries for doctors and hospitals. They should charge a fair price for recaf, because it is a win-win situation for the patient and the insurance companies.
I expect alot of contoversy when the test comes out, and there will always be individuals giving false information, because of their own agenda.
We will almost instantly be approached for collaborations to experiment with recaf by many different universities, research centers and pharmaceutical companies.
Our patents are the most prized possession other than Dr Moro, therefore, we have to vigorously defend what is rightfully ours. Anyone using our recaf marker for any reason must be required to be under contract with fiduciary responsibilities. We should be able to capitalize on all fronts if the patents are done properly.
About Roche buying Ventana Medical...I also know that Ventana was a 5 dollar stock not too many years ago and now is being bought for 3.4 billion dollars or almost 90 dollars a share. If it makes sense someone will want us, but at this stage we would be severely undervalued. Fast forward 5 years from now (which many of us have already been involved with BioCurex for 5 years already), and we will fetch a price like Ventana.
I think I know the person buying on Friday may have been the person I spoke to from Quest Diagnostics, because he seemed very excited about the information I presented to him. I'll ask him when I speak with him next week when I follow up on what he thought and what he plans to do about it.
I am disappointed and don't understand them not realizing the value of attending. It's like they are their own worst enemy. This company needs some clear guidance. Why isn't Dr Moro taking every opportunity to tell the world about his discovery? I have a strong suspicion Dr Moro is wearing too many hats and needs someoneone else to delegate.
Here I am again baffled by their lack of understanding the importance of communication, whether it is with the shareholders or the community at large. I am sure Dr Moro has blinders on and is so focused on his work that he is overwhelmed. That is why he needs to see the value in hiring great people that will do many of the things that he shouldn't be consumed with. I speak from experience. He'll wish he did it sooner.
There should be a staff, not one person focused on ways to promote this company.
I did a quick search on upcoming cancer meetings and this one came up over as one the biggest and best. I would be disappointed if Dr Moro doesn't see the value of attending and presenting. It is worth 100X what they are paying to the demeaning penny rags. Last week, I started to take look a little closer at the list of penny newsletters Wittenberg gave our much needed money and diluted shares and I had to stop before I threw my laptop across the room. Even Dr Moro needs to understand what the benefits of attending would do for BioCurex and for his reputation. Check it out from the link. http://www.aacr.org/home/scientists/meetings--workshops/annual-meeting-2008.aspx
I'm sure there are many others, but I believe this would be a pretty great thing to see us presenting. It will only open more doors and enlighten more of the science community.
We need a list of important contacts, then their email addresses. I have many reasons to see this become a success. I'm sure we all do, so instead of me focusing on how poorly management has handled media relations I am passionate about us getting the word out. I'm traveling this weekend, but I'll be chiming in periodically. Everyone have a great weekend. Realize every day that passes we are one day closer to commercialization.
Let's all hope they get Quest Diagnostics on board and get this thing to the market. I was considering writing to the Bill Gates Foundation, but I am going to be quite busy for the next few days. I would like to see us (i-hub members) put together a form letter and a list of important contacts and inform them about our discovery. I'm sure they would be interested in what we have to say. My hope would be that we generate enough buzz and curiosity that we will no longer have to worry about management blowing our money and this will grow legs of its own. Let's keep Terry busy.
I think that someone has 2 accounts and is manipulating the stock lower by selling in one account and buying in another to keep the share price artificially lower. The bid is always lowered when I see buying which makes no sense and why would someone be desperate to sell 100 shares at .60 when someone just bought at .70 . This is ticking me off big time. We just keep backpeddling because of someone's agenda to manipulate the share price.