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Hi All
These are all very good points. My view is STWA has a very strong relationship with TC and we have no idea how negotiations are going. What we do know is TC will eventually order. You don't put millions and 2 years of work on a device you place on the worst part of a pipeline, blitz the test and not take up the technology.
TC need the Aot so they can sell the environmental benefits to the US public re Keystone. My take is they negotiate hard and slow and squeeze out every cent of savings they can. This is the painful part.
The benefit for us is gregg has KM coming up. If they move quick this will force TC hand. Its a win win for stwa. Again the question is when.
Truethat and zerosum
Great points all round. I think Gregg is struggling to close TC. We can say its a power issue but I don't really believe it will be a full retest. And here is why
TC engineers helped design and build the AOT. They know it intricately. They may not need a full test to determine whether they place a purchase order. They all know the aot works. What TC needed was independent certification which they now have.
Gregg has previously mentioned that they deal with layer upon layer of internal beurecracy. Takes them so long to get approval. This is what I feel is happening now. Lawyers, Engineers, Risk and Governance etc etc.
TC want it, they will purchase it but we have to go through there slow internal process to make that first purchase public. Hence 1st qrtr.
Truethat and zerosum
TC will be first and my prediction is 1st quarter. In all honesty what will get TC over the line is pressure from KM in the background.
At the moment I don't think Gregg can close TC on his own. Stwa needs that 1st contract and it will take other forces to assist like pressure from KM. The money, time and collaboration with TC over the past 2 years i will be surprised if anyone beats them to it.
What I am convinced off is we will be huge for the oil and energy industry. Once Gregg gets contract 1 over the line the rest will fall into place and make things so much easier to promote and sell.
Just a matter of time.
Hi Truethat
Good post. I tend to agree. They can get the test data very quick but negotiations can take some time.
My guess is TC will be qrtr 1 and KM , Newfields qrtr 2. Really is exciting times as stwa is moving on many fronts. Gregg has set this company up very very well. It has been a slow and painful journey but we now have a device that is
INDEPENDENTLY VERIFIED...
Kaboom industry accepted now. The final piece is a contract. Not to long now.It will finally put some people out of there misery. .ha ha. They know whom they are.
Great post zerosum
Have a look at all the relationships and testing going on. This will be huge. TCv will be ordering soon enough after the fantastic results and independent verification.
Plus KM, Newfields etc etc.. Bring it on.
KM
Newfields
Haven
Its in the filings.
Totally agree zerosum
Zerosnoop that was an excellent post. These are exciting times. On the cusp of a contract with TC and testing on numerous fronts.
The clients and relationships we have are very very significant. Greggs update I felt was great with insight into so many areas.
Why would anyone sell ? I just hope they don't regret it... And of course they will.
Hi Alkaline
I can see where you are coming from and feel your frustration. But I think you are way off with your interpretation of the TC relationship.
Have another read and review the time line TC has been involved with STWA. Read Greggs words and the collaboration between the 2 companies. The aot gave both parties the expected result and was an overwhelming success as it flushed out the power issue.
I read it as TC relationship with stwa is stronger than ever. Contract will come. Question is when and how soon. At the same time we have diversified our risk with the joule heating and testing with KM and Newfields.
We are stronger than ever and very well placed. We only get one chance and Gregg as critical as I have been in the past has done an amazing job keeping us afloat, diversifying our risk and setting us up for major revenue and contracts.
A great update.
Hi All
The whole industry knows TC is testing the AOT. We are all kidding ourselves if you think it is some big secret. The results of the testing however is what will never be revealed and TC will get a deal that no one else will.
The update clearly reflects Gregg is on target with his strategy. You just don't sign contracts overnight. Especially on new revolutionary technology. This takes time. Frustrating for investors but we have no choice.
We are close though. Not long before we take off....TC, KM, Newfields ....
Hi All
STWA doesn't have to prove themselves. STWA does not have to release any fluff around a 3rd party independent report to satisfy some whom have an agenda to just be negative no matter what the outcome. Gregg will not breach any nda. We on this board are irrelevant and here to discuss amongst ourselves. Im happy with that.
One quoted we will be decimated in 2015. We were supposed to be finished years ago.
No cash - wrong
Product doesn't work - wrong
Ceo whom has no idea - wrong (although previous ceo's other than Cecil had no idea)
The reality is we have 3 multi national companies worth in excess of $300billion testing our device. Not talking, not maybe interested but actually testing our technology.
Stwa presented to the industry at PEG
Ceo whom has put us in the best possible position reducing our risk and reliance on one application and one client.
Sox compliant
Latest filing confirming the AOT works and independently verified. Hello people guess what's next
Contracts contracts contracts....
Here we go Olei olei olei...
Hi Zerosnoop
Agree STWA has proven itself with these industry giants and the technology being independently verified. This is monumental for our company.
Next thing is for Gregg to get these contracts over the line.
Zerosum
Again well said. We all know it works the oil and energy industry know it works and soon enough the right people across the globe will know it works.
Your beating the dead donkey with these guys. IGNORE is the best option.
TC
Km
Newfields plus many more
Expect contracts in the coming months. I noticed a comment on the environmental side that stwa should pursue. My opinion is that its a bonus as a selling point.
The oil industry is purely about profit. If they can market to the American public its environmental benefits great but its the bottom line that matters. Always has and always will.
To think otherwise is fooling yourself.
Great story zerosum
STWA is a far way off Apple but there is no doubts we have the same potential. What we need now is Gregg to get TC, KM and Newfields done.
Effective PR and institutional buying will see this skyrocket past $10-$20 pps. Like i said the whole oil and energy sector are watching whom will pull trigger first.
My guess is TC will be 1st followed by KM. Boom $10 plus there. Bring it home Gregg.
Absolutely zerosum
Brilliantly put. Read the 10q again and the confidence in that one little line Gregg comments on. They are excited because they know it works and it is a game changer.
The power supply will be rectified and is a blessing in disguise because they won't have that issue with KM or Newfields. The industry is well and truly aware of stwa and its technology.
I don't waste my time replying to any concern or comment on the validity of the AOT. We are here to stay and will be the google of the oil and energy industry within 2 years.
Hi All
Ridiculous we are still entertaining the idea wether the AOT works and that longs are responding to the usual suspects.
Really guys. I keep saying it as others do as well
TC
Km
Newfields
PEG Conference
Sox compliant
etc etc etc etc etc
We are no mickey mouse start up.
Contracts are upon us. And you know what. When we get the first contract or second and third these guys won't change. So my point is. Use the IGNORE function. The game won't change by replying with the truth, facts etc.
Absolutely Smile
I think its important to remind people its 3 clients whom are multi national companies worth BILLIONS.
We are not associated with some start up working out of some tiny oilfield in Texas.
TransCanada
Kinder Morgan
Newfields
Remember little old STWA being invited to present at PEG. Putting our technology in front of the whole industry. Have a guess which presentation went over time and occupied most of the industries attention.
Your right Smile whom will be 4, 5 and 6. Once that first contract is signed get ready all for the ride of your lives. We are being watched. Make no mistake. This is revolutionary to the Oil and Energy sectors.
Bring it home Gregg.
Absolutely DPS we are on track.
3 major corporations testing our technology with contracts to follow. This is a success story you will be telling your grand children in your waterfront property.
We are not here like some for the $0.05 and $0.10 daily fluctuations. This is a company with a clear vision and strategy of supplying and supporting the oil and energy sectors well into the future and for generations to come. It is a game changer.
Gregg is leading us and doing this in compliant and ethical manner and establishing most importantly trust and healthy business relationships with our BILLION dollar clients.
Happy times are upon us.
Zerosum love the analogy.
After a decade plus in this baby I have been waiting for that day. I have no doubts we are on the radar of the Oil and Energy sector. The oil industry knows all about STWA. What they are waiting for is validation. That's where TC and KM come in.
Fund and hedge fund managers , institutions have us on there watchlists. What do you think will happen when our first contract is announced. No more nda plus effective pr and marketing.
I can see this breaking the $5 and $10 barrier very easily. Then nasdaq uplisting contract 2, 3 , 4 etc... Midstream , Joule Heating. This really is POTENTIALLY our google or Microsoft if we get it right.
Our faith is in Gregg doing this the right way. That is not breaking ndas for a cheap announcement or pr stunt. As frustrating as it is we cannot underestimate the importance of building trust with our clients. These clients are heavy hitters. We have to do it right. And that's what Gregg is doing.
We will get there. I have no doubts.
Thanks for the response zerosum
Interesting points. I know in one of Greggs updates we were informed of the many levels of sign offs and legal areas hence beurecracy within TC plus the silence that comes with the nda.
I am very very confident we will land both these big fish. The aot on the TC pipeline blitzed it. They have the data. Reading between the lines you can sense Greggs excitement. Just need to optimise the power issue. This won't take long.
Good points on KM. If they move quick this does apply pressure on TC for media exposure etc. KM is 3 times larger. I don't think they will care too much on every penny. Gregg will give them a good deal.
No doubts exciting times. Again i think a nice finish to 2014 if we get some good pr but first quarter 2015 should be huge with our first contracts.
Bring it home Gregg.
Hi zerosum
Shares at these prices are an absolute bargain. I have loaded up over a spme years so im happy with my holding.
To think we have established relationships and pilot programs with 3 major oil companies. Testing should not take long. I think the negotiating will be intense so hopefully we see these contracts in the near future.
Big finish to 2014.
Hi Smile
Great post. Without a doubt the potential is mind boggling. I feel we bed down a contract in our own backyard US and Nth America then Europe, Africa and Middle East will fall into place.
What we need is that first contract and validation. The TC test showed the AOT is a game changer. Need to get the power supply right but Greggs words in the 10q gives away his excitement. We are on the cusp.
Once TC, KM etc place that first order we are definately off and running. Hopefully the wait is not to much longer.
Hi Tedco
As I have these guys on ignore I can piece together from your replies what Sox is proposing.
Haven't you heard. STWA has scammed 3 major oil companies worth on excess of $220 billion combined. Along the way we got Dr Tao in on the act and have conned our way passed the US Dept of Energy as well.
Wow these guys put Maddoff to shame. Oh also you heard about our cash burn position. We won't see out the year. Ha ha Yep let sox call KM. He won't get passed the recording at the front desk. Its so ridiculous its laughable.
We are seriously on the verge of some major breakthroughs. My tip is first qrtr 2015.
I wouldnt hold my breath. It will be via an 8k etc.
Again that's with TC and the nda in place. KM and Newfields potentially could be different.
Lets hope so.
TC on a live pipeline
KM
Newfields
Billions between them.
Revolutionary technology and a game changer. INVITED to present at PEG.. massive.
Contracts are imminent. Just accept the fact we are on the verge of greatness. Hope your around when we take off.
Great post again.
I have fellow investors not reading the filings and asking questions that are covered in the filings.
In saying that Gregg can send out a shareholder update as well. He doesnt have to disclose sensitive information. Its the only argument I have against him. His communication with shareholders is very disappointing at the moment. I wouldn't complain if the price was $1 plus but it isn't. We are half that.
And on the radar of an entire industry.
Tc, KM and Newfields will all be wrapped up by close of qrtr 1 2015. The rest will fall into line.
And we will still have the same suspects banging the drums and telling us suckers that Tao is a fake, no cash and the aot doesnt work.
But hey TC, KM and Newfields must think we have something to offer. Ha ha
Your right the aot does work.
Great Post
The advantages and benefits certainly have us on the radar of the oil and energy sector. TC, KM and Newfields are the ones we know.
Whom else is in the firing line. TC next move or KM is crucial. No doubts the AOT works as designed (just need to fix the power issue) . The first purchase order is all we need.
This is coming. Again hopefully its sooner rather than later. The stock price will go ballistic once this is achieved. The day we are all waiting for.
Get it done Gregg.
Hi shl
Its a power supply issue. Why question if the AOT works. Of course it works. The beauty of a pilot program is you find out these issues, rectify them , retest and move on.
This is not a stwa problem. We had Tc engineers all over this. I prefer a power problem than an issue with the aot. That gave me great confidence the aot works as its intended to do. We are ahead of the curve. Remember it was our 1st test on a live pipeline. Its been on there and running for months now.
You bet it works.
Wether the aot moves or comes back to us time will tell. We have KM and Newfields as well. Moving ahead on 3 fronts. Painfully slow but we will get there.
Hi Tp
Some have no interest in the facts and reality as to where stwa is at and where it is going. We could sign a $100m deal tomorrow and there arguments won't change.
We are on the cusp of some major milestones for this company. The test with TC highlighted 2 significant facts. The aot works as designed and will change the oil industry. Im confident of this as its still there and operational.
Secondly it needs more power. Future tests with clients won't have this issue. Power unit is external to the aot. How quickly we can get our first contract to market and validate the aot to the industry is anyone's guess.
Im hoping sooner rather than later.
Totally agree. This decision is totally irrelevant. TC have pipelines worldwide. This is so insignificant to what stwa is trying to achieve.
If anything is it probably a good thing with the extra transportation costs TC have to absorb to move there oil. That's where the benefit of the aot is.
Again we just need that first order to validate our technology. We shouldn't be too far off. Sky is the limit once that first deal is made.
Whom will be first TC, KM or Newfields. My money is still on TC.
Couldn't have put it better myself. Well said zerosum.
I agree value that any oil deals, price of oil etc does not have any impact on STWA.... Yet.
But it will. When that first order is made and the aot is accepted industry wide we will be the company everyone is talking about.
Oh and don't worry they all know about us. There eyes are on us. Only a matter of time.
Hi Tpsully
So true and well articulated. They are irrelevant. We sign a $100m deal and nothing changes for them. They employ the same strategies.
Tao is a fake, aot doesnt work, no cash, ceo whom is a crook and a board with no experience. Yet the facts are
1. AOT is a game changer and works. We know that. Its the power supply that needs to be adjusted. Separate from the aot.
2. KM, TC and Newfields all on board and testing. More to come
3. Sox compliant and recent uplisting
4. Strong board and strong legal representation. Bigger has positioned us well.
The rhetoric from you know whom is irrelevant. We are strong bunch us longs. We know how far we have come and how close we are. Our energies are best served discussing real stwa events and topics.
Good times ahead.
Hi Longs
As I said stay the course. This company is situated perfectly. Technology revolutionary. As i stated a little drop in the price and they were out in force. Irrelevant. We have been there before.
Newfields
TC
KM
Seriously this will be huge.
Absolutely Whacky
Ive always said lets stick to the facts. The facts are STWA has established serious relationships with major oil corporations worth billions. This is not a game. Gregg knows we only have one shot at this and we cannot and will not breach the trust of our clients.
Fellow longs this is a very big deal. No fluff no leaking of info or data for a short term pps move.
Longs calm down and look at the facts. The aot was installed on a live pipeline using the expertise of 20 TC engineers and staff. Read between the lines. It was a major success and worked the way it was intended to. What was as an issue was the power grid. Repeat the power grid. Its separate to the aot. Was it disapointing yes. Is it a major setback NO.
They will tweak it , up the power retest it and contract time. We also have KM, Newfields. These guys collectively are worth hundreds of billions. And guess what they want our technology.
Be a little patient. This will be huge and we all will be rich. Its coming together. We are on the right track.
To all longs time to load up if you can. I personally have more than enough to fund my retirement.
I don't think people understand how huge this will be. We presented at PEG at the request of KM and according to the 8k will be testing the joule heating soon.
Newfields to follow. Google them to see how big they are.
We have been with TC on this journey for over 2 years. The power unit is separate to the aot. The AOT is as some would say a game changer.
We are getting closer and closer to something monumental for the oil industry.
Well said dr cash
They can spin any jargon or argument to suit there needs of the day. TC is so intertwined with STWA and want this to be a success of which we are 95% there.
Where is documented t he aot doesn't work. Power issue is separate to the AOT. TC and Bigger are thrashing out a deal.
Hey then we have KM testing soon. Now we have Newfields. Three major billion dollar companies. But this little penny stock is scamming all of them.
Keep posting away guys on a 0.15cent pps drop. It csn bounce back very quickly. STWA is being managed effectively with a vision. Contracts will be upon us soon enough.
TC
KM
Newfields
Some big boys STWA is in bed with. And yeah we have no cash no device no credibility. Ha ha. We won't survive another 6 months. Keep posting away yr negativity. Heard it so many times over last 5 years.
We are still here and stronger than ever.
NDA guys.
Can't brag about anything. Go and read the filings again. Its the power unit not the AOT. The AOT is revolutionary and will change the oil industry forever. Be patient.
TC 35billion
KM 100billion
Newfields 100billion
Do you really believe the aot and our technology doesnt work. Can we really fool these blue chip companies. Hang in there.
This will be huge.
Totally Agree Sodd
If TC did not want the device and technology didnt work dont you think KM and Newfields whom are both worth billions would still be involved and would never have gotten to this stage.
The industry is very tight whereby all these competitors know what each other are generally up to. The word on STWA technology would have been out there by now.
If the AOT is so bad why did the filing state relationship with km and newfields. TC will order the AOT. Just a matter of time. Again its our CEO with no idea on promoting this company and keeping shareholders updated has alot to answer for.
Totally agree dr cash.
This nda is so tight we cannot breach it in any way. We only have one chance to get this right.
Whom will deal with stwa if we breach an nda. No credibility no trust. Game over. Oil and energy industry won't touch us if we fail with the TC nda.