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I will tell you what I know and all I know, in late February everyone was told to zip it!!! Don't know why, don't ask because you now know what I know. Additionally, I ask again, who is the IR guy on here...
How do you propose they handle it differently if they are under an NDA? Who do you accuse of being the IR trolling the message boards?
We will never know, all I can say is it looks marginally better with the spell check turned on. Like yourself I was originally educated in business and marketing and to be perfectly honest with you, it is still horrible for something to be viewed by the general public, a quickie in the board room, fine but not out here. Then again that could be my little friend, OCD talking///
Did you guys happen to catch two huge stand out names as supporting partners at the ITW! Orange Plc. And Tata Communications. That is a place this BOD needs to be, or make a major announcement at.
No worries i thought maybe you liked the number 7 like some others here.
Penny, not only is this not their first rodeo, these guys have made a living riding bulls, some of them since before i was born i am sure. Does anyone really feel that this BOD, most of which actually came with the patents from Digifonica, would waste their time and money on this if it was not the real deal, just saying!!!
Just because you can stay on for 8 seconds does not mean you will win, your bull has to perform and i think this patent portfolio will perform quite nicely thanks. This PPT published today was definetly not the prettiest thing i have ever seen, i mean honestly, has anyone seen a good looking bull, they are all pretty ugly but it did manage to give a sample explaination to what this bull can do!
I don't think they would, nothing of real significance in my opinion. Did you have a chance to check out the new PPT released last night, kind of ironic how we were just discussing an explanation of these patents! Granted the PPT is poorly done but I don't think marketing is Malaks' strongest ability.
Precisely, as I said, we will see.
I don't know, when he claimed they shut down that division I found nothing in news releases about layoffs in that area of technology but then there was a bunch of layoffs and some reassignment of employees announced within their XBOX and entertainment division. I guess we will see!
That depends on your swami definition, he was the one with the friend who worked at Microsoft.
The board was pretty quiet, Makugush finally gave an estimate for buyout, May 5 for Microsoft to buy LI only for 2.5 billion and then May 12 for Google or Apple for the rest of the portfolio for 22 billion. I think that is all right.
I don't think they are concerned about updating the site with PR's, if this thing goes in the next couple of weeks it won't matter either way. Did you catch the post from Makugush this AM? Don't look for it if you didn't it's gone.
Try this
VPLM PPT
I get that quite often, just refresh quickly and usually the 2nd or 3rd time is the charm.
...or how about 7.77 followed by 7 0's.
What is the preference for 04/30, it's only 9 days difference!
Or you divide the current year, 14, by 2 and get double your pleasure. :)
RBR Continuation #2, 14/029,615
Transaction History
Date
Transaction Description
04-28-2014 Email Notification
04-28-2014 Mailing Corrected Notice of Allowability
04-23-2014 Document Verification
04-23-2014 Corrected Notice of Allowability
04-23-2014 Information Disclosure Statement considered
03-21-2014 Email Notification
03-21-2014 Mailing Corrected Notice of Allowability
03-18-2014 Information Disclosure Statement (IDS) Filed
03-18-2014 Corrected Notice of Allowability
02-27-2014 Electronic Review
02-27-2014 Email Notification
02-27-2014 Mail Notice of Allowance
02-24-2014 Document Verification
02-24-2014 Notice of Allowance Data Verification Completed
12-18-2013 Information Disclosure Statement considered
02-10-2014 Email Notification
02-10-2014 Change in Power of Attorney (May Include Associate POA)
01-29-2014 Case Docketed to Examiner in GAU
01-23-2014 Case Docketed to Examiner in GAU
01-23-2014 Case Docketed to Examiner in GAU
01-17-2014 Email Notification
01-16-2014 PG-Pub Issue Notification
VVVVVV, wee are definitely on the same page, or at the very least in the same chapter of the book but I really do not believe that the transparency of this company is reason for the recent decline of PPS.
My honest opinion is more of the fact we had a lot of gold diggers come to our party and just like normal they got rocked out of their position by their emotions and perhaps the ants in their pants theory. Let me explain that better. The last quarterly report prior to the Mar 3, 2014 report showed VPLM had some where between 300-400 shareholders, the Mar 3, 2014 report shows 1789 holders. I am willing to bet the majority of these were people whose friends told them about this company and how soon it was going to break out and you could make a truck load in mere days. These folks then bought in what I will deem small lots in hopes of striking it rich. As we all know, this has yet to happen and for those of us fortunate to have gotten in on the ground floor or dare I say the basement parking level, we have ridden this rollercoaster long enough that we have a better understanding of how long this could take. I feel these people got scared when MM's started holding this down and then started selling when the quick money didn't happen. This theory also explains why the volume seems to be smaller and the lot size of the transactions are not round, 5,000 or 20,000 would be round, 17,626, 12,472 are examples of transactions in the last hour.
As far as I am concerned, good things come to those who wait!
That would be extremely prosperous if they were, IMO. And yes they are definitely worth more than .14 cents, all one has to do is look at some recent history, it's been beat to death but companies like Sourcefire and Whatsapp are still notable when trying to value tech companies even though they leave huge discrepancies. If Cisco put the same type of valuation on Sourcefire that Facebook put on Whatsapp, it would have sold for 243 billion dollars, just another example of it being worth what someone is willing to pay, I mean seriously, Google wanted Whatsapp for 10 billion and Zuckerberg pays almost double!!!
No worries, When I was first introduced to VPLM, it was a sub penny and it was mentioned at that time that TATA was the one going to take it out for 6-8 cents, that was before any patent had been approved, let's call that speculation by one of the largest telecom companies in the world, there must be something to that
On another note I checked out the USPTO site and from what I see it appears that VPLM filed notice of prior art for consideration after the initial notice of allowance that might have been from Europe for the 6th patent, a child of RBR. To me it really looks like they are trying to dot their I's and cross their T's, I can appreciate that approach.
Sorry, you lost me in that last post!
All I can say is I hope I am wrong in every way, I hope it is sooner (I almost think it will be) and I hope it is for more, entirely plausible.
No, did I give that impression?
VVVVVV your friend at the gym has a point but there is two other sides of that coin. First he is completely correct, they did not put a value on the assets and they did not tell us how they work. I feel that can be taken two ways.
Let me first start by saying I don't think there is enough hours in a day for them to explain to us one patent let alone all of them., That would really be critical in any explanation.
Two, they put out some numbers on that call (Malak in particular, real or hypothetical, who knows), they may not have a value or they might, regardless, even if they did, does anyone honestly think they would publicly announce they are willing to take 2 billion when they could drive the price higher in a competitive situation. Lets be even more realistic however, these patents are worth what someone is going to pay for them, period. If that means 1 dollar or 10 billion, that's what they are worth at this stage, unfortunately no one will know until a deal is etched in stone, sorry but that is the way it is.
For myself and the small circle of friends I have involved in this I can say this. We have a combined 90+ years of investing, I will say we are seasoned, perhaps even ripe, we did not make our decisions based on traditional fundamentals because honestly, there are none here, this is purely speculative and to be perfectly honest with you, if I could not have been able to withstand a total loss of my investment here, I wouldn't be in...There is no such thing as a risk free investment, all I can say is we all need to be responsible for our own decisions, in the majority of my investments I have a strict approach, pick my point of entry, pick my point of exit and don't deviate based upon emotion, when I was younger I did not adhere to that and it cost me. JMO. BTW, my point of exit on this is a sale, not a price point.
Beaten, blackened, battered and bruised but just like Rocky, we never lose!!!
It is definitely interesting to think about, so many others like Google and Facebook have really branched out from their traditional business models, perhaps it is Apples turn!
Looks like this one didnt hold water today. I am sure they will try again!
Yup but watching a toaster doesn't make it pop, but it could drive you crazy! However it's fun to talk about. Rome wasn't built in a day, neither are fortunes. One month, one year or even a decade wait for the possible financial freedom so many here may experience after this is said and done will all be worth it and seem like a distant memory once it is over.
In all fairness, they may be able to say they are in negotiations but if they did, there is a chance they could agitate the other parties by alerting any other potential suitors and reasonably this could break down negotiations. Google offered to pay Whatsapp just to be notified if any other party tried to make an offer, they refused and look how well that turned out! Just saying!
IRY, I am going with door number one. I truly believe their priorities are not with PR at this point, it's reflective in the delays of updating the VPLM web site also. On the contestability of things, I do not feel there is anyone seriously contesting anything at this time, nor do I think there will be. I check the USPTO site every business day and there is no issues presently shown with any of the child apps and the five parents have all been issued.
It's a good thing Malak filed for continuation in Brazil now, but these things will never amount to nothing right, again that last part was sarcasm.
...and yet he is the head of this pyramid pump and dump scheme! I wouldn't trust him...
Agreed, however i would prefer to not even think about it, there would be no litigation, he would head straight to invasion.
I could care less if it was Rubles or Yuan as long as it equaled more than $3/share in USD. Of course if it was 18.5 billion euros, then i might get a little excited.
No worries, I am definitely still open to hearing anyone and everyone else's opinions and reasons.
I did try to generate this discussion but it didn't take off. You can refer to my post#12886 and to post#12873 for two justifications.
Alright then, let's go with couch syrup, it could have lesser legal implications if you plead diminished capacity.
That's a pretty lofty valuation, care to share your thoughts on that!
No thanks, i am a man of my word, i hope i am wrong on the date, mid May would be much nicer, allow for some more summer plans!