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Henry claims by fall of 2018, they have enough seeds to supply the whole tobacco industry....now why would he do that ???? To put it on storage? Need anymore teaser ?
Ok, your turn to do your own DD's guys... going to catch some zzzz.
MO looking into proprietary VLN seeds. That's the buzz coming from their conference call today. That's this spike is about....most likely. And who asked and confirmed the question? None other than Bonnie H.
Gottlieb also supports efforts to shift traditional cigarettes to very low nicotine levels.
---JFM still here? 1% is all XXII need! Everything else after that is a realistic dream.
Plus, here's a wicked thought, maybe they are open to vaping to get BT off their backs from anticipated lobbying? Plus, what smoker would convert to those funny looking perfume bottle like gizmos and puff it off their faces. They seem to get more attention from youngsters than the mature smokers. As that video suggest, teens that start vaping will highly likely to convert into nicotine smoking... hmmm isn't that backwards what the FDA wants to target as their goal?
JFM... this is the problem with that ... and I hope the FDA or the government did not wait decades just promote another Altern such as this, but we all know money talks.
Story just keeps getting better. Think they know more than us !
How about this FDA, 10% reduction every year to 85% max to jump start this project now and stop wasting time giving BT time to plan their game. Surely they can afford to stay alive on that term!
How do you know they are not planning on a certain move towards what the FDA is getting to? It's no longer an IF-- they have publicly announced their CORNERSTONE. The only company that could make this happen is XXII. FDA won't publicly announce their intent without doing it. They would look weak.
The alternatives are where BT is going to keep the old addicts smoking... the problem is, not all old timers will want to hold an Iqos or anything not tactically or anything else resembling their addicted product in touch, smell and taste. So, BT won't just throw their old products away. Just like when they said real books will go away. They haven't yet until the old generation of readers kill over. Then we are left with readers that have poor eyesights due to digitalized books, etc.--- you know what I'm getting to. By that time, XXII will be much bigger than where it is now, and we go to the next exciting thing. If it takes 2 years, who cares. Most longs here have withstand more than 2 years of ???, only for you to create seeds of doubt NOW? No thanks! By the way, I don't believe this will flat line for 2 years. We are in a historical ride. The more noise this creates, the higher it gets.
Senile market...like dude, this is old news! Get over it already... or did some just came back from the long weekend and decide to react now? Well I hope you guys loaded more ! Atlanta I think you got your rain dance wish...don't know if this is low enough though? They seem to be giving away shares on sale...
Just making sure you are awake he he! This though is a bull, you know that!
The unwillingness for this to stay down should scare the nickel and dimers. The only trajection its doing now is mild sideways but stairway UP! These times are post FDA announcement. Ppl still thinking this was the same .80 stock last year are just kidding themselves.
Sure! And you also have a crystal ball I see! At least I can go to sleep now while you watch for another entry point...good luck on the chase!
Atlanta?? That $3 sell not looking good when you bought at $3.20. Hmmm let us know your next entry point.
Oh whatever happened to "good bye BAT"!!! That just shows most here are as fickle as can be. Wish you guys stay true with your words.
This would really be funny if we end up where it started, then game on. You know the ones sold are watching and cringing, STOP going up! Lol
Thought you guys might like this!
Sorry the product of your impatience made you bitter. Who cares the process will take time...and sells off.... the awareness will just put this highe and higher and smart money hasn't quite started yet. Just enjoy the ride you and I have been waiting for. Thanks for the precautionary tale though...but you may want to reserve that to the newbies.
Quite lengthy...most don't have that time. We need a positive PR from the company. It's a 2 day conference, so probably waiting till Monday for a PR I'm guessing.
Alternative nicotine delivery options are way open along with reduction of nicotine for the next generation is FDA's cornertone. No wonder PM is going along with this. As I said...we only need 1% folks!
I see your price target is going up!!!
See if this works!
http://www.med.uvm.edu/behaviorandhealth/home
Yup it works! Very promising stuff. Why we are hovering in the low 3's is crazy!
Hope everyone is watching the live streaming of the Vermont conference...no reason for FDA non mandate now! The lower the better!
Word ETHICAL is bothersome... sounds like ya, it's ethical for BT to hand in a killing tool. Well, we all knew they won't make this easy. Just remember folks...this company doesn't have to take over the tobacco industry for us to make a killing. 1 % is all we need and I don't think that is a far fetch dream for this little guy. Remember that when you are feeling greedy. We can all play nice together. Any more than that is a huge blessing.
Yes, but one can still entertain the thought of this man's affliation to a i.e. vaping company to push vaping instead of the common tobacco, VLN or not, as to his push for the alternatives. That is still a conflict of interest if you ask me...pledge or no pledge.
Another thought is that maybe that's why they are not in a hurry to regulate ecig/vaping?
Not trying to say he's a bad guy...actually he will move this thing faster than Zeller's mouth. As I said naiveness would be to trust the G-V.
Imagine our SP if that article mention that he is invested in XXII!!! We may never know...
I haven't bought in sooo long, I've forgotten how to trade because I don't trade this. I have enough here to be confident about not being left behind. I'm tempted to start a trading pouch for this though, because the pattern look sooo good and fun.
That's before they can seal a deal...doesn't mean they can't be in contact eh?
Nevertheless, too early to tell. As long as it's holding from here, we should be fine...buying the dips though...
Maybe another leak...they are now in talks with other companies as they have announced...believe it or not!
Accordingly, the Company has recommenced discussions with global tobacco companies and international pharmaceutical companies that have expressed strong interest in a business relationship with 22nd Century but were, until now, unable to enter into a licensing agreement with 22nd Century due to restrictive covenants contained in the BAT agreement.
This is why…
http://www.bat.com/group/sites/UK__9D9KCY.nsf/vwPagesWebLive/DOA89DQ7
BT will never mess with the one thing that can get smokers hooked on their products...their bottom line would hurt. FDA in the other hand is in public safety --that's if $$$ from BT doesn't buy them...recognizes the play nicotine has with these products. Until they are mandated to a certain extent and FDA will exercise their right on this story, BT will never voluntarily enter that cell. Let alone this giant to first enter that arena.
Better story: Netflix eating Blockbuster after shoving them out the door!
I'm not disregarding FDA. The fact that this news came in advance and shouting proudly I feel they have suitors to entertain that weren't able to before because of BAT. It would not surprise me if we have a positive non-FDA news next few weeks and more coming which should drive up to SP back . That is how I feel in relation to the Tone of the last conference call .
Why do posters here thinks BAT walked away? The PR sounds like we got rid of them happily because they are tying us down...now they are free to negotiate with any tobacco entity. Anything now is possible regardless of FDA. And FDA will just move forward not back.
This news is a positive BLAST out loud by XXII. If this was a bad news, any company wouldn't be headlining this the way it is. BAT was holding us back. And they couldn't even talk about this before. Now we are free for anyone to do business with. It will be interesting how the market takes this, but I believe this is POSITIVE for growth.
Signed contracts to be the sole hemp grower in some US states... ?? I will post link when I get to it..maybe someone here can beat me to it.
Options? As far as I know, these options were not available till just recently. Unlike smoking cigarettes, cigar, etc, the public already knows the long term effects. Do you or these kids starting a fad such as ecig or vaping know their long term effects? And the colors and flavors to entice a new generation of smokers only to develop new generation of diseases. I'm talking about what they could be lacing those things with, since regulating them is not a focus right now. The FDA is giving them time. Big T will not just go away....
Nice mention! I see how big T is innovating...becoming a razor and blade type of business with the help of disguised "safer alternatives" such as ecigs and vapor products. Tsk tsk tsk... smart on their part but what they are creating here is a new wave of addicts. I really hope FDA isn't taken by their hocus pocus crap! But if that's the only way we can open up and obtain a mere 1% of this market, I'd be a very happy investor but would be a sad consumer. If FDA really is looking into eradicating smoking for the next generation, THIS CO. IS IT!!!
Very nasty wedgie to the shorties today huh! I knew it would turn green at the EOD but not this drastic. I think someone went into panic buying mode pre Monday, he he.
Me thinks so too ; why would one be caught with their pants down if an announcement gets pronounced next Monday ...
So PM thinks the solution to all these is, genetically modifying the tobacco plant...but that would take them 20 something years.
Hmmm,...do we really wanna guess they don't know about this company?
Amen....kinda keeps the impatient in check and back to reality. Of course we are all in this for the big ride, so a surprise wave even a tsunami is welcomed anytime. Thanks doc for that "pulling out" observation. It will all make sense soon enough. Happy happy weekend to all !