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bigisle...
I'd like to see that experiment if it happens to be on the net somewhere. Do you have a url for it or any leads on where I could see it?
TIA
Rich
Traders don't like to hold over the weekends. Probably some profits taken from the last couple days. imo
Westeffer...
I'm curious about your opinion regarding BLDV. Anything the company is doing here that has caught your attention? You're one of the few I've seen on any mssg board whose comments I pay attention to.
Take care.
Rich
The trading doesn't look all that shady to me. Just looks like a guy hit a number of trading boards and got some people to buy in. There wasn't over $30k traded that day so I don't see much to get up in arms about. It's more funny to me than anything that people would be so dumb as to buy a stock just because one guy went on a pumping spree on a few boards for one day.
I still feel confident that when Sam is ready to let us know where things are at he will do so. I think he's trying to do right by the shareholders with the silence, even though many don't agree. If you remember, there was a time when he would PR things before they came to fruition. Unfortunately some of those things didn't work out... and he got blasted by a number of shareholders because of that.
He's never run a public company before and he has taken some lumps from potential financiers and from shareholders, so I certainly understand his silence. All you have to do is read the posts put up by people on this board and imagine that you are Sam trying to get this business going. Would you want to talk to the shareholders?? You should be lucky that he doesn't have a personality like mine, because I'd tell a select few shareholders to shove it where the sun don't shine and find a way to take this thing private so as not to have to put up with everyones whining, bitching and demands.
I got pissed one time and wrote a rant of an email about Sam's lack of communication, but the more I looked at the history of honest mistakes, the adolescent responses by some shareholders who don't have a clue what it takes to do what Sam is trying to accomplish, and probably don't have the smarts to even think to try, the more it makes sense to me that the guy just wants to build the company and have something solid and definite to report before he goes putting out any more PR's. I have entertained the idea of this being a dilution scam. Sorry but based upon what i've observed of the trading that just isn't happening. I don't even think there's a NS on this anymore. If we did, that is where my main concern would be and I would be badgering the hell out of Sam to deal with it.
So, call me a nut, disagree, and do and think what you will. I have almost 7M shares here and I'm quite content to let Sam take the time he needs to build a business.
(BTW CashMc, I'm not pointing any fingers at you in this post. Your post just inspired me to do some expressing at this time).
Best wishes to all.
Rich
It ain't worth it.
Hi guys...
I copied the post from the guy who said he heard Sam is coming out of a quiet period and sent it on to a couple different places where I know Sam will get it. I thought he might find it interesting.
Hope you all are well. I too have been accumulating in anticipation of the train coming out of this loooong ass tunnel.
Take care.
Rich
Guy must be really excited about Strat...he's not even pumping it on his own board...
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=4235
Care to share who you heard this from?
I just hope that after a while you guys get bored with their stupidity and stop responding. This guy has a fairly new birthdate and just about every post so far gives one the sense that perhaps he has something sharp lodged high up in his rectum. Some people are drawn to misery and will always go and do whatever they can to draw to them those that will help them continue the experience. We could have one here. If this turns out to be the case then the only way to end the garbage is to ignore the posts.
If the person is a basher then no logic is going to stop it from carrying out what it has been programmed to do.
My recommendation is to put your efforts toward posting info/assistance you care to offer...to those who want to use it for a productive benefit. Putting your attention on the bashers and whiners only wastes your energy and time and eventually clutters the board with a lot of garbage.
In short... Keep your eyes on the prize and don't let those with ulterior motives pull you off course. It's what they want.
IMHO.
Have a great weekend.
This is getting old. Can't you guys go rent a boxing ring or something?
Looks like approximately 31,974,000 shares traded from March 10, '08, (which was the last time someone posted here about the OS after contacting the TA), up to yesterday.
MM's in pinkyland don't have to fill any order. They can literally work right around yours if they feel so inclined. Don't believe me though, call your broker and ask them.
Nope...But I DOUBLE DARE them to do it again! And next time put some VOLUME into it please!!!
(Only 10k at .03 and I want at least 50k).
How do you know that they haven't been in the oil sludge business? They haven't made public much of anything that they are up to. You also can't believe that they're getting rich and living off investors from the dilution that they have done so far. If the dilution was in the many billions with a bunch of nonsense pump PR's I wouldn't invest a dime in it. If that starts happening you can bet that I'll bail, but I'm not in the least bit worried about that occurring.
SBSH is atop the bid at .049, otherwise it looks right according to my lvl II.
If this were a pump and dump, meaning in part that if Sam were a hypster, I would never have stayed invested for this long. I will trade shares of this stock at my discretion but I still believe in the investment prospects of this company. The lack of communication is frustrating, but the reasons why are not unreasonable to me.
I think it's more important when investing in stocks on the pinks to pay attention to the business track record, reputation, credibility, integrity and impeccability of the people behind the company, rather than in the stock price or how many PR's they put out. I'm ok with the silence now.
Same here Rich. Thanks for responding.
They sure took a while printing that last buy of mine, but it's up now.
Picked up a million after the ask went .0005. Bought two lumps of 500k each. Interesting part is the T & S and volume are only showing one of my buys. Anyone here showing volume other than 1.94 M traded on the day?
Thank you Jackfree. 2.45M shares and growing
Does anyone see a buy for 250k shares @ .0006 registered on their time & sales? I bought them about 10 mins ago and my charting software is still showing no activity for the day.
Massimo,
I wasn't insinuating in my response to you that people shouldn't consider the negatives when investing in any stock. Seems to me the only responsible way to invest in anything is to learn as much about everything you can, which means the positives and the negatives.
Yes, I have been watching people for almost a decade on message boards and it has been an amazing experience. Some people seem to really enjoy losing money because I see them repeat the same mistakes over and over again. It's like watching a tragic comedy. I see the same behaviors from some people on this board. I'll never understand it and I guess I never will.
As for investing in pink sheets, the only time I do so is when I have access to information from people I would trust with my life...and then I only invest an amount that won't hurt me badly if I lose it all. Simple enough.
There's no such thing as luck so I bid you good fortunes.
How does anyone know that friends and family haven't been buying shares? I have a suspicion that they have. In regards to institutional money, we don't know that they aren't buying. There sure is a lot of volume on this stock from time to time during the course of a day and I am doubtful that it's all mom & pop. It also must be taken into consideration that there are a lot of restrictions put on institutional money based upon exchanges, share price limitations and due diligence. For all I know there are some big money institutional investors chomping at the bit to get in but can't until something solid is officially announced.
Then again, maybe nobody is interested and all these hundreds of thousands and even millions of shares trading daily are just a figment of our imagination.
Now here's a question that I still have never been given an answer to...
Why do people who don't believe in the potential of a stock, who aren't invested in it and who do nothing to find out the facts one way or another spend so much of their time spouting the potential negatives, especially when every negative possibility that they (so generously) share has an equally logical positive side, which curiously always gets left out of their posts?
(For the sake of clarity, massimo, this question is not directed at you).
Oh...and to those who were arguing in posts earlier about whether all that volume of trades last week was buying or selling...it was both. I would have thought everyone would know at least that much.
Thanks for your posts as always velvet...
I'm glad I choose to invest in impeccable people instead of only numbers and share price. Sam has hit a few bumps along the way which I must admit have had me scratching my head a few times but I've never questioned his integrity or yours. Having you on the BOD will be a nice addition to my investment.
I still sleep well at night. Good luck with your other surgery and give me a call if/when you get a chance.
Rich
Hiya David...
I learned something many years ago which has been extremely helpful to me when dealing with people. What I learned is to sit back and listen, occasionally chiming in with comments and questions that will give me more opportunities to listen. In a surprisingly short period of time a person will tell you practically everything you need to know about them. The message boards work very much the same. People ramble on and tell so much about themselves...quite ignorantly usually. Of course the audience needs to pay attention and "read between the lines" so to speak.
Our friend "miningman", (ironic name huh?), has basically (and even literally) told us that he knows little to nothing about the process that Cerro & Medinah are likely going through, that he has likely done no DD and that he invested over his head some time ago based upon rumors/innuendo/hearsay that was likely posted on message boards by people he knows nothing about and took no incentive to get more acquainted with.
Here's a lesson to all you new to the game of investing/trading that I eventually learned after losing ten's of thousands of dollars myself when I was younger and dumber than I am now...
Before you put any money into any investment or trade, HAVE A PLAN! If it's an investment, make sure you KNOW this going into it. Make sure you have an idea of where you expect the price to go. Make sure you do enough DD to feel confident in putting your money in BEFORE YOU PUT YOUR MONEY IN. STAY ON TOP OF YOUR DD... and if something should change that lessens your confidence about the investment then DO MORE DD UNTIL EITHER YOUR CONFIDENCE IS RESTORED or until you decide to BAIL. Once your confidence is gone it is time to SELL! PERIOD!! You can always do more DD and get back in if you regain confidence.
For trading, the plan is much simpler and easier to follow. Use your TA to find an entry point. By the time you buy your shares you should have a general vision, based upon your TA, of where you expect it to go. The single most important thing to do in trading is to have a STOP-LOSS. (The single hardest thing to do in trading is to USE the STOP-LOSS. The single most painful experience in trading is what happens as a result of NOT FOLLOWING YOUR STOP-LOSS... (after you use wishful thinking to SABOTAGE that STOP-LOSS by watching the price fall below it while you tell yourself that it will come back up). Set parameters for an EXIT from the trade. Have a general idea of where you're going to sell when the trade is profitable. (A good trader has an idea of this BEFORE THEY EVEN BUY).
I would bet great sums of money that better than 95% of all of the bitching that occurs on these message boards is the result of NOT doing the above.
Now I'm looking forward to see who's gonna step up and call me a fool.
Posted by: Miningman
In reply to: None
Date:12/12/2007 1:24:53 PM
Post #of 3438
I have no proof. My point of view comes from watching this stock for ten years. I would sell it short if one could legally short a penny stock.
So you're a disgruntled investor using the board to vent your frustrations. Now I understand. Well, take care and have fun!
But seriously...Thank you for reminding me why I decided not to spend so much time on these boards.
HOLY COW!!! This is a scam??? Oh my gaaaawd! THANK YOU SOOOOOOOO MUCH FOR COMING HERE AND POSTING THAT!!!! I'm sure glad there are great people with such incredible DD, such as yours, to guide us ignorant sheeple through the dark and winding path! Phew!!
Well longs, I sure hope you read that post and get your heads on straight like I did!
;-P
Hi Blockman
I've been lurking occasionally. I figure the people smart enough to know what's going on here don't need my posts, the people too dumb typically don't seem to want to get any smarter and those with ulterior motives just twist anything useful to fit their own motives.
I had a GTC order fill today for 100k at .0215. Wish I had set it lower but I'm not complaining.
Take care.
Rich
Shortie's collar must be feeling a little tighter! For those new to this game, message boards are a wonderful gauge of shortie's nerves. The more bashing, the more nervous they are. Can't wait to see Medinah's bashers really ramp it up!
Bash away, bash away, bash away all!!! LOL
TYVM Velvet. em
Interesting perceptions you get from what I've written to you. It says a lot about you. All I need to know, actually.
Brent
I'm leaving smoggy CA the end of January. It's been in the 50's-60's here... not all that "beachy" for me, but then I must be part reptile because I love the heat and can't stand even these temps. Next destination is unknown but we're heading east through the southern states. We'll stay where it feels good to be. If we get to Florida and don't find anything it might be time to hop on a ship.
As for the whole stocks, message "boreds" and many who frequent them, I've come to the conclusion that I'm just a different animal than most. Not necessarily better, just different...and I like the way I do things. Since I have found myself to be very much in the minority my choice is to leave for the most part. Saves both sides a lot of aggravation, as exemplified here today, and, afterall, I only need be responsible for me. I don't understand it but too many people only seem to learn through pain and suffering. I've long since chosen the easy route and so there's little room for me here anymore.
Take care.
Rich
Threeflight...
You seem quick to judge...and have done so wrongly I assure you. Fortunately for me I couldn't care less.
You didn't ask for my advice but I'm going to share some with you to do what you will with it. Educate yourself on the markets and learn how to do proper due diligence before you lose (more of?) your money. Don't touch a pink sheet/otcbb stock until you've educated yourself on naked shorting, market manipulation and stock charting techniques.
Good luck!
Your views are too narrow. You have more options and they've already been given. For someone so sincerely hopeful of being wrong, you sure seem determined to hold on to your incomplete and negatively oriented views.
Let's look at your potential scenarios along with one you seem to not want to pay much attention to...
1. The stock market is full of traders. If there is a legitimate long selling shares, the seller could easily have a 15% or greater gain and has decided to sell on the rumor of news. If that is the case then anyone has the choice to sell along with this perceived seller or hold for potentially greater gains.
2. If the company is diluting then all you need do to confirm your fears is to call the transfer agent. If they aren't diluting, then you've easily removed one of your fears and will have no need to worry/post about it further. If they are, then you should be able to find out some idea of how much they intend to dilute and make whatever decisions you deem necessary.
3. This stock could be the victim of illegal shorting practices. If this is the case and it makes you uncomfortable then you really only have two choices: Sell any investment you have here or choose to go along for whatever ride the future brings. It really is that simple, unless you choose to become proactive and fight illegal shorting. Then you're in for a long education and most likely a very bumpy road.
Not much more for me to say on the subject.
Good luck to you.
Thanks Brent,
I'm not posting so much these days... just reading occasionally. My days of battling ignorance, irresponsibility and blatent stupidity are over.
I am well and hope the same for you and yours.
Take care.
Rich
Because there was a time when those doing the naked shorting did very intensive DD before playing their game. Over the decades, and with over a 95% success rate, shorty has gotten lazy and arrogant in his ways. He also has many so called "regulators", who are supposed to be in place to protect the little investor, protecting him instead.
If you are going to view one side of the coin I recommend you take a look at the other side as well in order to maintain balance, logic and reason in your views. The other side of the coin is why, with the selling of millions of shares at .08, is the price holding strong? Who is buying these millions of shares for hundreds of thousands of dollars? Not likely anyone posting on these boards.
To answer the dilution question, all one has to do is contact the company's transfer agent.
I'm not saying that someone isn't selling millions of shares and I'm not saying that this stock is being illegally shorted. (Although I believe both CDCH and MDMN are being illegally shorted). My point here is that if one is going to choose to look at either the negative or the positive aspects of any investment, or anything in life, they choose to see as much of the complete picture as they possibly can. It's the only way to gain an accurate measure of the truth, imo of course.
1/08/08 at 11:35 AM
Thanks for the updates Velvet.