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from what you see there, it is not looking like a direct hit on New Orleans will be pass within 50 or so miles. Most of the devastation comes on the west side of a hurricane as well.
Nevertheless, this thing is going to grow this weekend and will impact a system of levees that have never quite been built back up... at least not to the point to withstand a cat 3 or greater hurricane.
Pray for those in the path and may God lead their judgment to leave the area while they still can.
Good luck on Tuesday all, I'm glad I got in @ .072!
Heavy, heavy buy volume today compared to sells...
People loading up in anticipation?
Satellite Images:
GUSTAV:
HANNA:
So glad i just bought more at .085
Just bought a couple more thousand shares... i hope this thing does soemthing!
Oh how true that is about the Gulf water... White sandy beaches, bath-water temperature blue water...
How I miss it... I live in NH now, not much of a 'cane threat up here but we have Nor'easters.
How high does everyone (in their opinion, of course) see this stock running up to and when?
How high can this thing go, IYO?
Yea I'm ready for some news! Hope everyone's other investments are treating them well!
I will wait as long as I have to.
Everyone on this board, proponents or opponents is well-spoken. Lets do whats best for USA and Berlin!
Go Laidlaw! Counting the days until the deal is closed..
Til then... another semester @ UNH!!!
Matthew
That was in yesterday's local 'Berlin Daily Sun'
I really hope we hear some news soon!
Number one reason for Laidlaw:
I think this one was always an indisputable reason in favor of Laidlaw.
Tuesday is just a second Monday in disguise.
Is this the same Clean Energy as the one that also wants to build a biomass plant in Berlin? I've only found their interests to lie with Natural Gas but I could be wrong.
http://www.247wallst.com/2008/08/cramer-chases-p.html
I hate the political side of ventures like this. Bureaucracies and "politics as usual" is the reason things take so long to get accomplished. We could have a "electrical economy" instead of an "oil economy" if it weren't for political stalemates and lobbyists...
Honestly, you get some thicker, less resistive wiring in place and you're fine! It's not a large undertaking.
Good morning and a happy Monday to all. Hope everyone is enjoying the first half hour of work as I have been.
Let's see what these 5 days will bring us, shall we?
As Tom Petty put it: The waiting is the hardest part.
So the 90 day expired on August 10. The 30 day extension brings us to September 9, 2008...
No news is good news though, yes?
Heavy volume today... I know I increased my position.
This price is enticing...
Is this a good time to buy into SIL?
-I think CPD speaks for itself.
-The only development I've seen on the B/G road has been Wal-mart (which they hired illegal immigrants to help construct... screw Wal mart)
-Rt 110 development is just a tad vague.
-ATV park? Ummm....
So you got 2 prisons and a wood pellet plant. Again, as I have stated before and will continue to state: BERLIN NEEDS HEAVY INDUSTRY!!!
Other economic stimuli (You referred to a plural, therefore you cannot use stimulus)? Berlin is rotting away! What are these stimuli that you speak of? A prison? A new Chinese restaurant downtown? Time to get with reality.
The fact that you place the value of REAL ESTATE around a mill site over the WELL-BEING of families suffering in the area due to lack of industry continues to appall me, spencer.
As you honestly stated, there is NO plan that will produce the revenue to the City of Berlin like the Laidlaw project intends to do. To keep Berlin going, the project has to happen. Everyone should be on board with this, assuming they have half a mind.
My interests lie with Berlin/Gorham and the whole region surrounding. I do not want to see Berlin decay and see its people on Unemployment! These people (my father included) hate the idea of not being able to EARN their paycheck (Which is why my father has taken a job outside of the state... at least until there is an opportunity back in the area for him).
Think of the people, Spencer, not the damn real estate values! People don't move to Berlin hoping to make a quick buck on property... values are low there and will continue to stay low. That is the way it has been and will continue to be.
Berlin is different. Berlin has always had a plant with stacks. The future will yield nothing different.
I'm in a comfortable position, no need to trade at the current time!
That's ironic.
Those are not very convincing arguments against LLEG. You harbor a lot of animosity towards LLEG but when asked why... your answer was very anti-climactic.
Florida, Hawaii are for amateurs. Pros retire in Berlin.
1) This is unreal... You refuse to reply to my post and answer my questions!
2) It's "dying", not "dieing"
3) Where on Earth did you get the idea that Berlin wants to revive its paper industry?
You did not ask a single question in that entire post. On that note, you are being very hypocritical as I have posted a message that asked VERY SPECIFIC questions to you and Spencer.
While we are on track on this, let me actually ASK you some questions that hopefully you will answer.
1) What are the displaced mill workers supposed to do if people like you had your way and industry was banished from Berlin?
2) What would the Burgess site be used for to help the City of Berlin that does not include heavy industry?
3) How does the "If you build it, they will come" rhetoric hold up seeing as how the area already has all the tourist destination it needs and is able to support?
4) What does Berlin have to offer tourists that they cannot get elsewhere?
5) How will tourism benefit the displaced mill workers?
6) What industry was Berlin founded on and flourished on up until the late 90's before some less-than-reputable companies took over? How does that not translate to the future?
Looking forward to it.
Matthew
Here is a map of the area:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=44.375895,-71.191406&spn=0.695936,1.785278&t=h&z=10&msid=118041170823082858259.000454cfa367022bc4e14
I labeled some POI. I did it very fast, if there is a higher demand I can make one more detailed and more accurate.
As you can see, the area has EVERYTHING it needs to support Tourism. There is nothing that Berlin can offer that you can't get in less than 30 miles.
In your opinion... what about for the hard-workers in Berlin currently on unemployment? Do you ever think of the citizens of Berlin struggling to make ends meet? And you care about the VIEWS of the City of Berlin... This is almost appalling.
Be the best at what you do. If you are a pig, stay a pig. You're not fooling anybody.
Its not the infrastructure that is the problem... it is the amenities. People want a quaint Bed & Breakfast with a mountain view away from the city. Berlin is a gradually decaying city whose downtown has been vacated (due to LACK of industrial presence... lack of money and lack of town taxes to take care of the area). Berlin is a depressing area. When I go up to that area, I still get depressed. There is just no money anywhere and the last thing anyone can afford is to put up a Bed & Breakfast there! They'd rather go to:
http://www.google.com/search?q=gorham%2C+nh+bed+and+breakfast&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
http://www.nestlenookfarm.com/NH-Family-Vacations.html
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=nhQ&q=glen%2C+nh+bed+and+breakfast&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=S25&q=conway%2C+nh+bed+and+breakfast&btnG=Search
ANY one of those. As far as outdoorsy recreation... The AMC is just south of Gorham and the Appalachian trail that goes from Maine to Georgia goes right THROUGH Gorham and there are a lot of stores catering to them. They have no need to go to Berlin, either!
Most of Berlin's rivers are dammed and not fit for kayaking or boating. There is nothing about Berlin that makes one say "Let's go to Berlin for vacation!!!" There are no downhill ski resorts nor hotels to cater to those in the area. Berlin != Tourism. (That means Berlin does NOT equal tourism).
People that want to go hunting/ATVing go to Errol or head up to the Balsam's:
http://www.thebalsams.com/
Anyone who thinks that if they tear down Berlin's one shot at getting back to being the great city they used to be, things will just "fix themselves" is gravely mistaken. Berlin can be great again, but it will take the help of some heavy industry to get that town back on its feet. It will take getting these industrial workers back on a payroll and spending their hard-earned money around town to revive local business. Lastly, it will take the tax dollars of such an industry to get Berlin's roads, buildings, and landscape back to being what it once was: impressive.
Anyone who thinks that Berlin can survive without industry is delusional, or at best, gravely misinformed.
I'm going to try to get a map up of the area with some points on there so we can see Berlin's relationship to the area.
Why would anyone want a B-list view of the presidentials when they could go to Gorham/Glen/Jefferson/Conway and get a better view?
Very misconstrued priorities...
Downtown Berlin still has no view...
My attitude has never been one of "screw Berlin" as you say. I am simply stating that Berlin will emerge from its current recession as a result of economic growth. That economic growth will arise from the same markets that Berlin made Berlin the 3rd largest city in NH: Industry and logging. Without them, Berlin will continue to be a depressed region in NH.
You have family in the area, so this should come as no shock. It is time to start thinking logically. Action needs to be taken on this project to help get Berlin back on its feet.
Tourists don't go to Berlin. There is nothing touristy about Berlin. Berlin is and always has been an industrious town. Leave the tourism to Gorham and surrounding towns and let Berlin flourish with what it is good at.
I have not been able to get in contact with Mr. Aber yet. I spend the majority of my day at the lab where I work and have not found a moment. I will try to send him an email at my earliest convenience.
Ah yes, I thought possibly there was some news that was just released, had me excited for a minute.
What is the latest news release? Please tell.
Spencer and Pennys: If your DD is so solid and indisputable as you claim (and as we have seen, since you are so certain of the failure of this project), why won't you share some of that with us? Wouldn't potentially turning some investors into nay-sayers only help your cause?
I have still yet to see any of it. I have only heard inane claims about frozen wood chips.
LLEG is up after hours, I have not seen this before. But then again, I have only been investing in this company for about a month.
Anybody have a say on this?
That certainly does seem misconstrued to me... If you had any interest in the town of Berlin, you would care more about getting these people to work and bringing NEEDED tax dollars to the city. You would not care about having a plant at the Old Burgess site, which has always been an industrial zoned parcel. The infrastructure is there except for a few spotty areas of railroad track which will be addressed.
Its time to accept the future and be excited about it!
I too have addressed this notion, please refer to this post (Which spencer has yet to reply to)
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=31486385
A greenfield plant like the one that CP wants to build is much less economically viable than using the existing infrastructure like Laidlaw plans to do! Combine that with the fact that CPD wants to pay lower taxes... recipe for disaster for CPD!